Internet Explorer to support touch scrolling ? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Imagine how easy it would be if IE in Windows mobile supported scrolling ( horizontal and vertical ) using a finger ( Touch ) ? Where do we raise this request with Microsoft ?

dude, it certain phones already have it, namely, the kaiser who's forum you posted in

Bravo could you tell me how that works? on my Kaiser if I scroll in IE by dragging top to bottom (and vice versa) all I get is highlighted text.

Try using your finger rather than using the stylus.

Was using my finger the first time, dragging from top of the middle of the screen to the bottom. Using T-Mob Vario III out of the box ROM. Must be a duff one

bravo261 said:
dude, it certain phones already have it, namely, the kaiser who's forum you posted in
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No bravo , it doesn't work good in IE . Open Google Map do some finger scrolling then compare to IE and you will know what I mean.

Mine does, using HTC Rom.

I think HTC calls it TouchFLO, you can use your finger. Just press firmly. It will only highlight text if you touch it like a girly-man.

Pops_G said:
I think HTC calls it TouchFLO, you can use your finger. Just press firmly. It will only highlight text if you touch it like a girly-man.
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You are ALL NOT paying attention , See what you can do in GoogleMaps or Iphone's Safari and you will understand.
FLO Touch scrolls only horiz. or vertical at a time. With Safari your finger grabs the map and moves in all directions.

3uk said:
You are ALL NOT paying attention , See what you can do in GoogleMaps or Iphone's Safari and you will understand.
FLO Touch scrolls only horiz. or vertical at a time. With Safari your finger grabs the map and moves in all directions.
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Umm, it will only scroll up and down if the page only needs to go up and down. If you go to a page that needs to span more than the width, then it does go left/right.
YOU are the one not listening. TouchFLO on Kaiser does go in any direction when it makes sense to.
You may have your IE set to only show things in one column, in which case it forces the page to fit in only one screen width.
And if you think Pocket IE works like Safari, your'e mistaken. I suggest you do a search on this forum or HoFo for "Browser Bible" and you will find a comprehensive comparison of the browsers available for WM6. And you will then get to see which ones act most like Safari.

OK i agree there is some stickness in IE with touch flo. But the same thing in Google Maps is 10 times smoother.

Not a perfect solution, but:
Try the AddOn MultiIE.
http://www.southwaycorp.net/
You will find a function called screen drag...I think this will fit your suggestion...
I use this function for 2 years now on my wizard and it workes like a charm...;-)

I suggest you look into Opera Mini.

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TouchFlo - Am I missing something?

I may be being totally daft, but I can't seem to find anywhere in the interface that has the supposed TouchFlo features. The contact app seems to be just the regular WM6 one.
Can someone please give me an example of where the TouchFlo features are used on the Kaiser?
It's pretty subtle, if you are in a long document, say contacts, you can touch the screen downward in a sweeping motion and the contacts should scroll down continuously. You should hear clicking like a roulette wheel, slowing down till it stops. (You can disable that sound). This works vertical and horizontal (if there is reason to scroll).
It's pretty subtle. Some have complained that it doesn't work well with IE and have loaded Opera-Mini to get that functionality to work better. I've tried both and they seem to work OK for me.
It's not very well implemented.
This is the difference between actually creating something useful and adding a feature just to have it on a checklist ("can scroll using flick like iphone") !
Thanks for the replies, I finally get it. It's pretty lame as-is, I really hope someone will manage to extend the functionality in a custom rom in the future.
Odie85 said:
Thanks for the replies, I finally get it. It's pretty lame as-is, I really hope someone will manage to extend the functionality in a custom rom in the future.
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It is not that lame, in my opinion. actually, it is rather more useful than the whole cube-thing implemented on the Touch. ie, if your in the car and try to get to a certain contact or scroll a word doc, it is a lot easier to just touch the screen with your finger rather than use the stylus to scroll using the scroll bars.
i like this feature and i dont consider it as a just-to-be-there feature.
I'm pretty sure my palm pda/phone from 5 years ago had Touch Flo
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ionutz6 said:
It is not that lame, in my opinion. actually, it is rather more useful than the whole cube-thing implemented on the Touch. ie, if your in the car and try to get to a certain contact or scroll a word doc, it is a lot easier to just touch the screen with your finger rather than use the stylus to scroll using the scroll bars.
i like this feature and i dont consider it as a just-to-be-there feature.
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Is Touchflo easier to use than the scroll wheel?
does down on the dpad not work?
eric b
RacerX10 said:
I'm pretty sure my palm pda/phone from 5 years ago had Touch Flo
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Yeah.... and pigs might fly...
Is there a reg tweak to alter the direct of the scrolling...so when i wipe down the screen it scrolls down instead of up?
It seemes to me as though its the wrong way round.
Moaske said:
Yeah.... and pigs might fly...
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no, seriously .. i remember using my finger to scroll pages on it's browser .. Samsung SPH-i300
check this page :
http://www.palm.com/us/products/handhelds/e2/e2_blazer.html
and note :
Improved Usability
Drag the stylus anywhere on screen to scroll a web page. Increase viewable content on the screen with the small font option. Get essential starting tips through the Help menu.
Isn't that what TouchFlo does ?
J273 said:
Is there a reg tweak to alter the direct of the scrolling...so when i wipe down the screen it scrolls down instead of up?
It seemes to me as though its the wrong way round.
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imagine a piece of paper that you could only see though a small hole (screensize). if you pressed your finger down on the paper, and slide it toward you (down), the text on that paper would appear to scroll up, and vice versa...
by the time someone finds the reg tweak, we'll all probably be used to it...
zetajunkie said:
imagine a piece of paper that you could only see though a small hole (screensize). if you pressed your finger down on the paper, and slide it toward you (down), the text on that paper would appear to scroll up, and vice versa...
by the time someone finds the reg tweak, we'll all probably be used to it...
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Yeah i know what your saying...But to me it just seems wrong which is why i pretty much don't use it.....Im pretty much used to now scrolling using the scroll bar.
and to me it would be much more useful if it was the other way.
J273 said:
Is there a reg tweak to alter the direct of the scrolling...so when i wipe down the screen it scrolls down instead of up?
It seemes to me as though its the wrong way round.
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You want it to act like the scroll bar, basically.
TouchFlo=Iphone WannaBe Marketing Trick
Someone else said earlier and they were dead on: all these top of the line pocket pc /cell phone makers got blind sided by Apple's touch screen, which basically makes the Iphone.
So a smart alec at HTC said "let's whip out a touch flo phone, out comes the HTC Touch, and now let's plaster touch technology everywhere on each model as a marketing gimmick to keep up with the Jones' "
I mean 1 million Iphones sold since June 29th as of today...what choice did they have?
The reslut: Touch Flo technology a la cheap, not using the right screen (Iphone screens cost up the wazoo and are made by Balda of Germany) and is basically no different than the D pad...so NO, HTC phones do not have ANY touch tech. yet.
ionutz6 said:
It is not that lame, in my opinion. actually, it is rather more useful than the whole cube-thing implemented on the Touch. ie, if your in the car and try to get to a certain contact or scroll a word doc, it is a lot easier to just touch the screen with your finger rather than use the stylus to scroll using the scroll bars.
i like this feature and i dont consider it as a just-to-be-there feature.
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Well if you are driving, you shouldn't be using your phone, either with stylus or finger.
KCMatt said:
Is Touchflo easier to use than the scroll wheel?
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For me it is. especially if it is in internet explorer, where the scroll wheel jumps from link to link, while the touchflo scrolls pages. i know we can modify the scroll wheel behaviour to scroll pages as well, but as it came from the factory this is the behaviour.
plus, if u are driving, it is easier to just touch the display once rather than keep your finger pressed on the d-button or on the wheel.
just my 0.05USD..
bchau said:
Well if you are driving, you shouldn't be using your phone, either with stylus or finger.
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well, excuse me, mr. officer..
i love the touchflo...works just like the iphone especially when working with large spreadsheets.
I love the touchflo as well. VueFlo sux compared to TouchFlo

touchflo on TIlt?

I have searched through this forum, some say the AT&T branded Kaiser (Tilt) does have TouchFlo, others say it doesn't. My Tilt definitely DOES NOT have it. Is there anyone out there with an AT&T TILT and does have the touchflo straight out of the box? Is there a way for me to add it since it currently isn't there on mine? Thanks!
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I have searched through this forum, some say the AT&T branded Kaiser (Tilt) does have TouchFlo, others say it doesn't. My Tilt definitely DOES NOT have it. Is there anyone out there with an AT&T TILT and does have the touchflo straight out of the box? Is there a way for me to add it since it currently isn't there on mine? Thanks!
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TouchFlo = Finger Scroll *NOT* the Cube interface.
Start --> Settings --> System --> TouchFlo (to enable and disable sound)
Posted by jomo25:
The way TouchFLO works is this:
- use a finger (not your fingernail) to "drag" the screen up/down (or even left/right if the page is wider than the screen). The page should drag with your finger. It's semi-smooth. Not truly smooth, but smooth enough. When you drag, DON'T lift your finger from the screen till you've got it positioned to your desired spot.
OR
- If you use your finger (not your fingernail) to swipe up or down AND LIFT your finger fromthe screen as you do it, then the screen with scroll by itself to the end in that direction or until you tap the screen again to stop it.
OR
- if you use the stylus or your fingernail, then it will NOT scroll like above. It will then behave like a normal stylus control (highlites and selects instead of scrolling).
So, the screen reads a broad touch (like your finger) differently than a narrow/pinpoint touch (like your nail or stylus).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=238980
Thanks for the additional info. I have seen that post before on this forum though and it is more of an explanation of what touchflo is. I am aware of the difference between the cube touchflo and the finger scroll touchflo. My Tilt has neither. When I go to Start->Settings->System there in nothing in there for touchflo. So my questions still remain, with a slight adjustment...
Is there anyone out there with an AT&T TILT and does have the *finger-scroll* touchflo straight out of the box? Is there a way for me to add it since it currently isn't there on mine? Thanks!
I have no touch-flo icon either in my System folder.
-James
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mine is in the mail and I thought it had the touch flow
I am sure someone will have a fix for it soon enough
I have a Tilt's and so do my two coworkers and they all have touchflo out of the box. Did you soft reset the phone before the customization was completed?
no biggie at all....most will flash to htc rom......and it definately does have the touchflo in the settings...i have a tilt and am using touchflo
The Tilt Does Have Touchflo
The Tilt owners above are correct in that in Start\Settings\System, there is no Touchflo Icon. This however does not mean the device does not have touchflo, because indeed it does. If anyone finds where this icon exists or how we can add a shortcut, please let us all know.
It took a bit of reading for me to understand how to use touchflo and the first post above is a great tutorial.
For me, it took more finger pressure on the screen than I expected to make touchflo work and that may be confusing people as well as the lack of an icon to manage the settings.
To demonstrate to yourself, open an application that is scrollable, like messaging, or IE. Use more pressure than you would expect on the screen and move your finger up, down or sideways in a long flicking motion and you will see touchflo working. Perform the touch again to stop technique or the touch and drag and you will find it works great on the Tilt
Good Luck and enjoy touchflo!
It is supposed to have the "finger scroll TouchFLO" out of the box on the Tilts as MardiG says. if it does not, then your phone's software is not complete. Even if you don't have the "Control Panel" setting, the functioanlity is supposed to be there. I'd get another one if ti doesn't. Or hard reset and let the software customization run again.
thanks for all the posts! very helpful!! i tested and touchflo is definitely not working on mine. i tried the hard reset but that didn't help. i guess i'll have to take this one back to the store and hope they have some left in stock. Thanks again!!
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I have a Tilt's and so do my two coworkers and they all have touchflo out of the box. Did you soft reset the phone before the customization was completed?
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my tilt has touchflo - no settings in Settings->System however.
have to modify via registry
Same here ... I have Touchflo but nothing in Settings. The best way to see if you have it is to open Contacts. If you have more than a page or two of Contacts you will be able to tell if your Touchflo is active or not.
Open Contacts and drag you finger from the bottom to the top of the screen ... as if you dragging the bottom toward the top. You should definitely see the scrolling of the Contacts is it's working.
I did a soft-reset during the AT&T customization so that none of the bloatware would be on the Tilt.
TouchFlo is actually working - even though I don't have an icon in the System Settings.
Open up an IE page that would normally need scrolling up/down, and follow the instructions on how to actually use TouchFlo on the first page of this thread - I think it is Post # 2.
I tested mine using the instructions and it works - just have to get used to it (and NO it doesn't work as well as that "other" phone).
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I have a Tilt's and so do my two coworkers and they all have touchflo out of the box. Did you soft reset the phone before the customization was completed?
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I did and it still had touchflo, just no control panel for it. I'm on the HTC rom now and it has the control panel.
jmacdonald801 said:
I have no touch-flo icon either in my System folder.
-James
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But it still has it I'm willing to bet, unless you got some messed up ROM on yours. Try the scrolling in IE and see if it works.
I have used both models and the finger scrolling works on the Tilt. The Kaiser settings have only one checkbox and it is to turn the "clicking" sound on or off. The default is on for the Tilt, and my guess is you will need to tweak the registry to get it turned off.
there's tweak app in the sticky which can set sensitivity of touch flo
TouchFlo not on my Tilt
I just searched my Tilt for TouchFlo files with Total Commander.
No files found.
there are no files but it is there, I did the same thing when I thought mine wasn't working. What I realized is it will not work with Opera mini, I am assuming in won't work in any java app. Goto espn.com in PIE and then try it there, it is a big page so there is plenty to scroll.
No settings area on my Tilt, but TouchFlo works
Ah Ha, ok.... i do have it.... just need to scrool towards the top when i want the list to scroll!!!

what is the point of the cube?

I have been using dutty's rom with cube for the tilt and maybe I just don't get it by why is anyone putting it on their kaiser?
Don't get me wrong, I can see the point of it on the touch but why with the kaiser?
Yes, it is kinda cool to show it off to other people but it is such a waste to use. For example, slide finger over and over till you find the internet button and hit that OR just one quick hit for the internet button on the front of the phone.
Use the same cube moves to get to contacts or just one quick click on the front of the htc rom.
Using the cube is MUCH more time consuming then just using the phone as it was meant to be. Is everyone just so caught up with the "wow factor" of the touch cube or am I missing something?
Wow factor... It's rather retarded IMO
I agree with argo. At some point you still have to whip out the stylus to input information, doesn't matter if you used the cube to get you to contacts or if you used the hardware key to get to contacts. I've installed some of the finger friendly add-ons (not the cube) and it helps with simple taks, but if I'm opening an app, I usually still do it from the stylus. Old habits die hard...
yup, eye candy.
Mostly Eye Candy...
..but also for me, it's an attempt to have a fully functional device with one hand/one finger---without any need for the stylus.
With THE CUBE, FTOUCHFLO, Home Plugin, FFF, OtO, TekSoft FingerTouch and a few others, I don't remember the last time I actually had to whip out the stylus...
...oh WAIT! It was earlier today!!!
Oh well!!
TEC
I am using Touch-Commander simply to multiply the number of contacts I can speed-dial while driving without scrolling down an endless list. I also like the fact that I can SMS my faves as well as call them from their icon.
I was playing with the HTC Photo Album, but it is just not as efficient at finding the pics you want as is the Resco app.
Of all of the "touchy-feely" apps that have come along recently, FFF is, IMHO the one really fantastic one.
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Of all of the "touchy-feely" apps that have come along recently, FFF is, IMHO the one really fantastic one.
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I also agree that the Cube, and the obsession around it, is kinda overkill. Functionally, I don't see the sube as an advancement. Yes, the other parts of TouchFLO are valuable to me, and the recent creations to make the phone more finger-friendly otherwise like FFF are also useful to me. But the cube? I could do without.
I almost think the general obsession with the cube became more of a Mt Everest type of "we have to climb that mountain" quest more than anything else. Yes, its eye candy, but to be honest, its not even that great of eye candy. The iPhone "eye candy-wise" has it topped by far, and believe me, I'm not an Apple fanboy in any way shape or form. So, congrats to those who were able to scale the mountain. I envy your skill and your determination. Really, I do.
As for the recent programs that I like and think are functionally great, and to be honest minimize to very large degree the need for me to use my stylus are:
- FFF (easily the greatest, little, free, simple programs ever IMO)
- HTC Home
- S2U2 (much better at locking and yes its pretty also )
- PCM Keyboard (not the contacts prog, but the keyboard)
- Opera Mini 4
- Google Maps and Live Search
- PocketPlayer 3.5
Just my 2 cents. Honestly, since I installed these apps, I go days without even touching my stylus...Only when I do something non-routine, would I need to do so.
i think it would serve alot more purpose if we were able to customize it, maybe we can, but i know i have no idea how to. half the apps in it i never use. bout all i use it for is for the fav. people side. just a quick flick of the finger and i can free up some space on home screen
I seldom used the cube...on my old device, herald p4350
But I cooked roms, and ofcourse the cube was something ppl would say "wow" to, and then tell me how impressed they are..blahblah.
Some ppl drive stick, some automatic.....a matter of taste I guess.
Well, I think the cube is a cool invention, but the consept has a long road ahead before I will implement it again in my own rom.
But im sure HTC has a plan, and im sure they have many cool apps waiting, or in development that will make our devices more and more independent of the stylus.
HTC is spitting out cool devices faster then my granpa changed underwear....And im pretty sure all the new future features will be quite available for us all as they come.
I heard a rumor they are developing a touch type calendar, operated "similar" to htc album and some part the random access, but dont ask how that will operate, cant picture it exactly, but im sure its fun
Another rumor I heard is that htc are making a new innovative web browser, witch can operate over wifi/bluetooth against activesync/mobile center, zooming like htc album, flicking your finger left-right gestures to move forward and back..there was something about support for streaming many types of fileformats directly in the browser...
But...its just rumors I heard, I have not seen any proof of this anywhere...
Hoping someone has heard similar rumors????
And this is the one thing I like about the iPhone. Is I think it was sort of a wake up call for software developers to think of new programs and new ways to interact with existing functionality. So I thank them for spawning alot of disucssion and ideas about how to make a convergence device better and more practical/usable!
Now, if we can just get HTC to implement a screen as nice and sensitive as the one on that other thing...
I installed the cube successfully and gave it up twice. The main reason is that when I touch a small fav photo on the dialer of the HTC Home pluggin, the call goes out immediately to the ONE phone (mobile or home or whatever) of the person that I have assigned it to. With the cube, it just goes to the contact, and then I have to press the specific phone of the two or three assigned to the contact to make the call. Overall (one stroke to turn on the cube, another to get to the fav icons of the dialer, another to get to the right phone choice) it takes three keystrokes to make a call versus just one in the HTC Home plugin. Cube is nice, but not convenient.
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well I think everyone is correct it is eye candy it is mt everest and can be (or is now less effective) the cube is kinda a waste of memory ill agree. but the kaiser has only been out for 10-11 weeks that's it. the cube now is trying to catch up to what the elf is. with the elf the cube and the on screen keyboard is very effective. I've played with it. right now the elfs cube is a touch snapier (probaly because of the bugs still in there). but lets take that contacts situation from before htc home is 2 moves and 3 on the cube now. but what if u edited the registry so it dials mr jones mobile instead of mr jones subscreen (its been done already look in the elf thread). then u set the cube to always launch the contacts page (not done yet but the cube gods are discussing it). when the cubes final it will probaly behave better and quicker. so half a swipe up and the cubes launched and u land your finger on your contact. now your action took one quick fluent movement and it looks cool. not only that the original htc cube is three faces not too exciting but what if they make it a real cube with 6 sides. along with some original apps as previously discussed we might be very close to being without a stylus
In my opinion, the cube has some advantages. For example somtimes I wanna write my girlfiend an SMS, somtimes I want to call her, so for me the Contact Menu ist no disadvantage. Another example is, that the move with my thumb to open the cube is much more easier, than klick the smaller icons on the home screen. And the Cube opens on the Side it was closed. So in my case, I only need one thumb move to get to my contacts.
The Cube is 2008. No cube is oldsk00l
Now but I just like the design of it. I personaly only use the first screen and sometimes the contact screen. But IE, Comm, E-mail etc I never use cause i have keys that open those things.
Hmmmm....I do find it weird that there are people complaining about the cube on the Tytn II simply because last time I checked...it didn't ship with the cube
If you don't like, you don't have to go through the hassle of putting it on your device. Simple as that. Some people like it for the "wow" factor...good for them. Sometimes when you pay a lot of money for something, you may want to show of a bit (I know I do lol)
Personally, I use Dutty's rom with built in cube and I use the cube quite a lot for media such as my photo's (as it directs me to HTC Album which I like a lot), Video (which directs me to TCMP player) and my Music (Audio manager)
Anything that makes you feel good about owning something, even if it's purely aesthetic, can't be a bad thing.
Which is why I'll never get an i-Phone. I played with my mates one the other day and although its very seductive, its too limited fot me and I quickly got bored.
Personalisation is the key!
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I agree, I still don't have a Tytn II, I have a HTC Touch, I never use the cube, I only show it to people.
its all 4 show..
cube off = the way to roll.
Yeah, I stay away from roms with the cube
I like the cube!!
Is interesting to see the comments, because I actually like the cube for a few reasons...
But before that a little side comment. The cube (at the moment) is still probably aesthetics over functionality but you have to wonder if this is such a bad thing...look at the iphone - the ultimate example of style over true substance. It had my wife's total attention for 20 minutes in the O2 shop the other day - something my PPC had never done. Now that might be a comment on my wife but the sales figures would suggest otherwise
I'm using slither's cube and what it has done for me is allowed me to clean up my today screen of all those icons I used just enough to want to have close but not every 5 minutes.
The end result is my whole device runs faster for a few thumbswipes worth of effort.
As the cube develops it will get better and functionality and aesthetics will improve because you can bet the iphone wont stand still and we musn't either because I CANT STAND APPLE and the tripe they pour out.
Rant over. I'll get my coat now

Tap and Hold

Perhaps this belongs in the "Unresolved Issues" thread.. I'm unsure.
I'm using a Tilt on the Stock shipped Rom.
When using Touchflo normally - i.e. Sliding my finger finger up or down, the menu pops up as if I had tapped and held the stylus. Very annoying. Does anyone else experience this issue on the Tilt? Also, the stylus operates Touchflo as well.
From what i remember using Touchflo on my wizard, the PPC could distinguish the difference between the Stylus, and my Finger. Why can't the Tilt recognize the difference?
Can a regedit be done to fix this?
None of it can differentiate between stylus & finger. All TFlo looks for is a delay to tell between Tap & Gesture. You may want to adjust your gesture recognition delay or just don't gesture all the way to the top. You don't need to. All you really need to do is transition from area 1 to area 2 within the specified gesture delay period.
Well, the reason i say it could differentiate was because:
Lets assume im browsing a word document, or the PIE: if I slid the stylus up the screen, it would select text, if i slid my finger accross the screen, it would Scroll.
I will alsom note that selcting text is VERY hard. i have to tap the stylus and hold it for a second or so before sliding, otherwise text will not be selected.
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Perhaps this belongs in the "Unresolved Issues" thread.. I'm unsure.
I'm using a Tilt on the Stock shipped Rom.
When using Touchflo normally - i.e. Sliding my finger finger up or down, the menu pops up as if I had tapped and held the stylus. Very annoying. Does anyone else experience this issue on the Tilt? Also, the stylus operates Touchflo as well.
From what i remember using Touchflo on my wizard, the PPC could distinguish the difference between the Stylus, and my Finger. Why can't the Tilt recognize the difference?
Can a regedit be done to fix this?
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Sometimes, mine will do this if I hold to long. Typically, the problem I have with TouchFlo, is that it thinks I want to highlight... everything. So rather than scrolling, it highlights the page. Very annoying. It seems to like scrolling with the stylus more so than using your fingers.
Furthermore, I have just noticed that because the Kaiser fails to recognize the difference between the stylus, and a finger press, the transcriber App will not work.
Can someone attempt to use transcriber on their stock ATT rom to reproduce this problem? -please post your findings.
I specifically remember that the wizard was able to distinguish the stylus from a finger press.
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Ok, so I have disababled the TFlo scrolller, so I thought, by changing the EnableScroll registry setting to 0. However, the scroll is still working. I have PiePlus 2.2 installed, could that be the problem?
FTouch was the culprit. How do I unisntall FTouch ?
Took the link outta the startup folder, rebooted, and then deleted the folder containing fTouch from the Program Files folder.
I came across this thread because I was having the same problem as the O.P. and was not able to find a solution for it (that is why I am posting in such an old thread so that I can share my experience). I am using Dutty's new Diamond Rom (from June 7th, 2008). Previously I used Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16_27__FIX_ and never had the problem with that ROM...I only started having it after the update.
To fix the problem I used AdvancedConfig (or you can use KaiserTweak) to disable TouchFlo scrolling. After disabling it, do a soft reset. Then install FTouchFlo and FTouchFloConfig. Since doing that navigating in PIE and contacts is as smooth as it was in my previous ROM

Touch Ebook Reader

Anybody know of an ebook reader for Windows Mobile 6.1 that you can scroll with a touch interface, like how Opera pages down on a web page?
Altough MobiPocket Reader hasn't finger scrolling feature,but it has feature of auto-scrolling,so you don't need to do anything while reading.
All reader
The soft Allreader+ do it and even in full screen mode
Ok - thanks for the suggestions - I've tried the Allsoft+ reader, and mobipocket.
Both have some nice features, but neither one lets you flick your finger to slide pages up and down like Opera works, or like the iPhone works with various pages. Allsoft+ has some great features, but not ones I'd be willing to pay that much money for when Haali Reader provides them for free.
I've been a long time Haali Reader user -- but unfortunately the AT&T Fuze doesn't have a scroll wheel, and the DPAD is kind of awkward to use for hours of reading. I may go with Mobipocket (free), and see if I can get used to tapping the screen to advance the page, unless somebody knows of another one.
Which Mobipocket reader version do you use? They haven't released one for WM6.1.
BigFeat said:
Which Mobipocket reader version do you use? They haven't released one for WM6.1.
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I am using v5.3 build582 on my Smartphones and that's working also on TP. For PPC I think is the same version(I have deleted my installcab accidentialy). It was working perfectly(till hardreset from different purposes).
I use mobipocket, and it's got a lot of bugs on the Fuze, mainly with pagination (it had problems with my previous device, but it's much worse with the fuze). I use GScroll, and it works nicely to scroll pages. If you just scratch downward on the bottom pad, you go forward a page. If you scratch upward, you either go back 1 page, or like 50, which is annoying as crap. Bookmarking your last page read is very important. Whenever your turn off the device, or close and re-open the application, for whatever reason, mobipocket has trouble figuring out what the previous page is. It's very easy to accidentally scratch the bottom pad upward, and then you'll shoot backwards anywhere from 10-50 pages. If you look at the progress bar, it'll say you just went back a page, but that's not so. Mobipocket has a lot of problem with pagination anyway, but this is really annoying.
I haven't tried ereader yet, but it does a much better job of pagination, in my opinion (it's nice to know how many pages you've read, and how many are left-you're pretty much in the dark with mobi). The bummer with ereader is that it doesn't have a full screen mode (unless it's been updated). With the small screen of the fuze, full-screen is important. It also looks a helluva lot better.
Edit: I should add, you can also use the d-pad to go forward and backward, but it's not as cool as using GScroll, and it doesn't alleviate the annoying pagination problems.
Yes,you're right. The last page made me angry all the time. Anyway on Smartphone it is everything correct and I have no alternative against. Maybe the SP version on PPC would work better,just try.
would very much like a decent ebook reader
mobipocket is impossible on touch HD
it is a bit odd that the ebook software market seems so undeveloped
maybe just not many people read books!?!
cheers
Does Gscroll work on the HD? I'd at least demo it (mobilesrc.com)-it's only live 5 min, but you'll see if you can scroll forward with it.
You can touch the page in Mobipocket to change pages...it's in the options.
yea a good ebook reader with finger swipe scrolling and zoom would be great.
uBook and Mobipocket both support touch scrolling, but not swiping. You just touch the screen and it changes the page. Both are excellent readers, but uBook requires a lot of messing around with it's options.
allreader +
allreader+ with gscroll is the best team
there is even a zoom
and more, you can switch from black text on white paper to white text on black paper and it's a bless when I read at night
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uBook and Mobipocket both support touch scrolling, but not swiping. You just touch the screen and it changes the page. Both are excellent readers, but uBook requires a lot of messing around with it's options.
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The only problem with tapping the screen to turn pages is that (at least with mobi) you usually have to tap a part of the screen where there are no words, otherwise you bring up the pop-up menu or you accidentally highlight text. If you hit a page with no paragraph breaks, it gets a little tricky and is annoying. Gscroll is totally the way to go.
any news of a new touch ebook reader (like this here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1N-QsuGD4a4 ) Mobipocket isn't so good on an Windows Mobile phone without d-pad....
New touch program for reading ebooks
Hi,
I have just released a program that does what you want. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4894085.
Let me know how you get on.
Cheers,
Jim
Check out iSilo. you can scroll up and down sliding the finger over the screen. Not sure if that is what you want...
I have read many books this year on Allreader+ and I love it. The night theme is great, the autoscroll is also great, and tap to change pages is much nicer than having to flick across the screen. Honestly the less effort to change pages, the better. You have to change pages a lot when reading on a small screen.
The only thing that Allreader+ lacks that I really wish it had is quick inline text editing for all those pesky errors from OCR. I could correct it and then next time I read the book it would be right.
Yeah Allreader+ was my favourite ebook reader until i found someone developed a speed reading app in the XDA Dev and hacking section.
The app is called wordstreamer and its all i use now to read on my pro!

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