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A couple of questions..

So Im a long time lurker, new poster. My wing came today and I would like flash OpenTouch 3 to it but Ive got a couple of questions first.
No matter how hard Ive searched, be it google or the wiki I still cannot find a definite answer about Hard-SPL. What is it, exactly? Do I need it to be able to flash OpenTouch 3?
Secondly, upon flashing the new rom, do I need to re enter all my network settings?

Shaihalud9 said:
So Im a long time lurker, new poster. My wing came today and I would like flash OpenTouch 3 to it but Ive got a couple of questions first.
No matter how hard Ive searched, be it google or the wiki I still cannot find a definite answer about Hard-SPL. What is it, exactly? Do I need it to be able to flash OpenTouch 3?
Secondly, upon flashing the new rom, do I need to re enter all my network settings?
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Read all the links in "All importatn links"
and never say again: I searched - it is NOT true.
there is ALL i repeat ALL you need written down!

I did read through it, including the Hard-SPL link. I only see instructions on how to install it, not why, or what it is.
The only thing I can deduce from that and other threads is its for avoiding bricking your phone, but Im not installing stuff on my 300 dollar phone without a reason why or what it does, or if I even need it.
I know you get lots of questions repeated over and over, but damn, your own wiki's search function doesnt detail what Hard-SPL is, it only references the link on how to install it.

Shaihalud9 said:
I did read through it, including the Hard-SPL link. I only see instructions on how to install it, not why, or what it is.
The only thing I can deduce from that and other threads is its for avoiding bricking your phone, but Im not installing stuff on my 300 dollar phone without a reason why or what it does, or if I even need it.
I know you get lots of questions repeated over and over, but damn, your own wiki's search function doesnt detail what Hard-SPL is, it only references the link on how to install it.
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First off, welcome to xda...
You need to relax a little, its not that hard and if you do brick the devic you can always reflash the original...
On the original thread for the rom, there is a FAQ section that should help you get started.
If you device is new and you have never flash it before then there is no need to HARD-SPL.
Posted by JLine05 Post:
Post 719
Here's the rom I use:
Open Touch Biggy v3.0 by ttran:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GY2ZNKD
Then follow these steps:
II. How do I flash an NBH file?
a. USPL
Step 1. Download Herald-USPL-Beta3. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A4N36HLO
Step 2. UnZIP the file into a folder on your Desktop. Let's call it "MyFirstROM" for simplicity's sake. Notice that there is a folder called RUU within this folder now. Keep that in mind.
Step 3. Download your NBH file and unZIP or unRAR it into that RUU folder. Make sure that that NBH file ends up in the RUU folder, not within a folder inside the RUU folder.
Step 4. Place your phone into flightmode.
Step 5. Go back to the MyFirstROM folder and then run USPL.exe
Step 6. Follow the directions on the screen. EXACTLY.
* Your screen on your cell phone will go white around the 75% part of the "second step" now.
* ActiveSync will LOOSE its connection.
Step 7. One step 3 on that black window, the RUU flasher will pop up. Just follow the steps.
That's it. Welcome to the flasher's world.
Instructions by Ivanmmj
Also,
In the future, please keep all questions in the original thread, this makes it eaiser for me and others to help you.
Enjoy!

Thank you, and I apologize for the post. Hopefully I'll be back later with your rom on my phone. :-D

I USPL'd. No biggie. What I think it does is writes some code to your device to ignore the security certificates or whatnot. Basically allowing you to install unofficial ROMs. The creator kindly put an image of Tux on there so I at least know it's Linux based.
That's my take on it.

Shaihalud9 said:
I did read through it, including the Hard-SPL link. I only see instructions on how to install it, not why, or what it is.
The only thing I can deduce from that and other threads is its for avoiding bricking your phone, but Im not installing stuff on my 300 dollar phone without a reason why or what it does, or if I even need it.
I know you get lots of questions repeated over and over, but damn, your own wiki's search function doesnt detail what Hard-SPL is, it only references the link on how to install it.
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Sorry. BUT on IvanMMJ thread about "How to flash" and "Neewbee guide" there is all discribed.
But thanks for ttran... now we have the 101st HOW2!!
hahaha

Remeber, check your SPL to make sure it's higher than 4.0 BEFORE flashing.

Determine SPL?
I have 2 MDAs and can see the IPL and SPL, etc., when I do a Soft Reset. However, with my new Wing I do not get that data displayed on Soft Reset. So, I checked Device Information:
ROM: 4.10.531.3 WWE dated: 03/15/07
Radio: 02.83.90
Protocol: 4.1.13.37
ExtROM: 4.10.531.103
Is there some reason that I do not see the IPL, SPL, etc., on Reset?
I assume that my SPL is what my ROM is, 4.10.531.3.
Thank you.

asctony said:
I have 2 MDAs and can see the IPL and SPL, etc., when I do a Soft Reset. However, with my new Wing I do not get that data displayed on Soft Reset. So, I checked Device Information:
ROM: 4.10.531.3 WWE dated: 03/15/07
Radio: 02.83.90
Protocol: 4.1.13.37
ExtROM: 4.10.531.103
Is there some reason that I do not see the IPL, SPL, etc., on Reset?
I assume that my SPL is what my ROM is, 4.10.531.3.
Thank you.
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On the Herald, you have to place the phone into bootloader mode to see the SPL. I believe all Wings are 4.0 and above, but you can never be too sure.

ivanmmj said:
On the Herald, you have to place the phone into bootloader mode to see the SPL. I believe all Wings are 4.0 and above, but you can never be too sure.
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Thanks for your quick response. I do appreciate your time and help. Mostly, all of your posted information.
What is the purpose of the SDDAEMON.INK in the Startup file? I have done searches on this and cannot find a definition of what it does or what it starts up.

well sd would probably the memory card
daemon is a background, "gofer" like file that automatically does computer requests
sometimes abbreviated as "d"..as in syslogd.. for a system log daemon file...blablah
and a .ink file is an image file with recorded information in it... usually used for shortcut icons
but yeah.. i have no idea, sorry

asctony said:
Thanks for your quick response. I do appreciate your time and help. Mostly, all of your posted information.
What is the purpose of the SDDAEMON.INK in the Startup file? I have done searches on this and cannot find a definition of what it does or what it starts up.
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It's supposed to be a short cut to initialize Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial. The reason you didn't find anything is because it's SDDAEMON.LNK not INK.

mv3 said:
well sd would probably the memory card
daemon is a background, "gofer" like file that automatically does computer requests
sometimes abbreviated as "d"..as in syslogd.. for a system log daemon file...blablah
and a .ink file is an image file with recorded information in it... usually used for shortcut icons
but yeah.. i have no idea, sorry
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lol. You get 10 points for the answer anyways.

ahh.... sooo sd meant speed dial... hehe

ivanmmj said:
It's supposed to be a short cut to initialize Cyberon's Voice Speed Dial. The reason you didn't find anything is because it's SDDAEMON.LNK not INK.
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Thank you again. I just did a search on the SDDAEMON.LNK and found the information that you provided me. I really don't like to ask for help until I have searched for a resolution. If I can provide help, I normally try to.
Thank You!

asctony said:
Thank you again. I just did a search on the SDDAEMON.LNK and found the information that you provided me. I really don't like to ask for help until I have searched for a resolution. If I can provide help, I normally try to.
Thank You!
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No problem. I figured you were trying to search but that I instead of L kills.

what am i doing wrong

ok, i am totally confused. i had flashed to three different roms since joining this forum. i tried to flash ttrans OTv5.0UL and nothing happens. bootloader comes up, screen goes white, generic pda menu opens and all seems fine. when phone starts back up, all of my original setting are there just like if i only did a soft reset. i tried again with a different rom and the same thing happens. i have tried 4 times and nothing. can someone please let me know what i am doing wrong

when did you buy your wing???
and are you using flashcenter ?? so it can temporary cid unlock the device?

i got my wing in feb or march 08. yes i do have flash center, and i have used it w/o problems before. i have flashed from touch it to open touch and one of aserg's roms too. i have been using OT 4 lite black for weeks now. i have been watching the threads about the new OT 5. so i downloaded it and nothing new is flashing.
does this help any?

digitalknoll said:
ok, i am totally confused. i had flashed to three different roms since joining this forum. i tried to flash ttrans OTv5.0UL and nothing happens. bootloader comes up, screen goes white, generic pda menu opens and all seems fine. when phone starts back up, all of my original setting are there just like if i only did a soft reset. i tried again with a different rom and the same thing happens. i have tried 4 times and nothing. can someone please let me know what i am doing wrong
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Please provide more details as to how your trying to flash your device.
Are you using the standard activesync method or via SD?
Regards,

ttran i'm honored!
ttran001 said:
Please provide more details as to how your trying to flash your device.
Are you using the standard activesync method or via SD?
Regards,
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iwas hoping not to bother any of the main guys with this little problem, but i'm glas your here (love your OT's btw ). ok, i am using the standard activesync method.
heres what i do:
1. download new rom and put it inside my RUU folder on my computer's C drive.
2. run the herald-uspl.exe.
3. follow the prompts
thats all i do and it used to work. i don't know if this helps, but it's the only other thing i have been doing diff. on another thread i asked if it was ok to delete old roms out of my RUU folder. i actually removed my OT v4 lite black and then put the OT v5 UL and ran the uspl. do you think thats what it is? maybe you have to have your old version in the RUU before you flash to a new version?
hope this helps

No. You don't have to have anything but your newest ROM in the RUU folder. When flashing, the phone doesn't know or care what you currently have flashed, unless that ROM is causing problems with your active sync. If that's the case, place your phone into bootloader mode, install the stock ROM (unless you have a HardSPL phone, and it sounds like you don't since you're using USPL.) Then boot up the ROM and run the USPL.

ok, so now know what to do, but why did this happen? whats wrong with the herald-uspl?
i just checked my device info and it says im running open touch v3! i thought that i was using v4. i have hard-spl downloaded, but i dont know if i need to use it or not. should it? then try to flash?

Unlock your phone with hars spl then run the exe from ruu folder. This method worked for me. I did not try the other way since my phone is unlocked but it should work aswell.

shep211 said:
Unlock your phone with hars spl then run the exe from ruu folder. This method worked for me. I did not try the other way since my phone is unlocked but it should work aswell.
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OK, i'll give it a try

Link to unlock phone software and howto
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225

digitalknoll said:
ok, i am totally confused. i had flashed to three different roms since joining this forum. i tried to flash ttrans OTv5.0UL and nothing happens. bootloader comes up, screen goes white, generic pda menu opens and all seems fine. when phone starts back up, all of my original setting are there just like if i only did a soft reset. i tried again with a different rom and the same thing happens. i have tried 4 times and nothing. can someone please let me know what i am doing wrong
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I'm sure you already did this, but I'll throw it out there. Did you leave the original .nbh file in the ruu folder? I don't think you can have more than one .nbh file in that directory.

dougstoner said:
I'm sure you already did this, but I'll throw it out there. Did you leave the original .nbh file in the ruu folder? I don't think you can have more than one .nbh file in that directory.
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actually, here is exactly whats in the RUU.
i hope it helps

Ina Weetald
ok, stoner, you got me.
that was the ticket. i was trying to flash about 4 things at once and i guess my wing flew over to the easiest nbh. i deleated all of them except the BAD ASS OT v5 UL. holy monkey!!! what a peach. i have to thank all of you for the help. i guess we all have these moments at some point in life. well i'm going to start playing around with the new rom. thanks again

digitalknoll said:
ok, stoner, you got me.
that was the ticket. i was trying to flash about 4 things at once and i guess my wing flew over to the easiest nbh. i deleated all of them except the BAD ASS OT v5 UL. holy monkey!!! what a peach. i have to thank all of you for the help. i guess we all have these moments at some point in life. well i'm going to start playing around with the new rom. thanks again
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Ha, wow that was a stab in the dark! Glad that helped man. So how do you like 5.0? I'm thinking about flashing to it...but heard so many issues with it though.

it looks really sweet!!!!
dougstoner said:
Ha, wow that was a stab in the dark! Glad that helped man. So how do you like 5.0? I'm thinking about flashing to it...but heard so many issues with it though.
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OT-5UL looks great all around. this is my first time with ultimatelaunch, so thats cool too. i haven't been able to go thru the posts for some of the fix issues. the only thing i'm a bit bummed about is the amount of memory left after the flash (program-20) i'll keep playing with it. hey thanks again for the fix

digitalknoll said:
OT-5UL looks great all around. this is my first time with ultimatelaunch, so thats cool too. i haven't been able to go thru the posts for some of the fix issues. the only thing i'm a bit bummed about is the amount of memory left after the flash (program-20) i'll keep playing with it. hey thanks again for the fix
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Yeah man, no problem. I finally decided to hard spl, and tried out 5.0 and 4.0 and I think I like 3.0 the best. 5.0 seemed kinda buggy.

dougstoner said:
Yeah man, no problem. I finally decided to hard spl, and tried out 5.0 and 4.0 and I think I like 3.0 the best. 5.0 seemed kinda buggy.
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i'm too scared to hardspl. i have the download, but not the nuts to try it. whats the hype about it anyway? it seems like some sort of badge for people in here. not you, but you know what i mean?
i'm gonna let the pro's go as far as they can with the OT V5 UL version and then probably go back to v4. gonna miss the UL (damn).

digitalknoll said:
i'm too scared to hardspl. i have the download, but not the nuts to try it. whats the hype about it anyway? it seems like some sort of badge for people in here. not you, but you know what i mean?
i'm gonna let the pro's go as far as they can with the OT V5 UL version and then probably go back to v4. gonna miss the UL (damn).
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The HardSPL makes it so that if you flash a bad flash, you don't have to flash into the Stock RUU again just to get a working activesync connection to be able to flash again.

Courtesy of Ivanmmj
Step 1. Download Herald-USPL-Beta3. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A4N36HLO
Step 2. UnZIP the file into a folder on your Desktop. Let's call it "MyFirstROM" for simplicity's sake. Notice that there is a folder called RUU within this folder now. Keep that in mind.
Step 3. Download your NBH file and unZIP or unRAR it into that RUU folder. Make sure that that NBH file ends up in the RUU folder, not within a folder inside the RUU folder.
Step 4. Place your phone into flightmode.
Step 5. Go back to the MyFirstROM folder and then run USPL.exe
Step 6. Follow the directions on the screen. EXACTLY.
* Your screen on your cell phone will go white around the 75% part of the "second step" now.
* ActiveSync will LOOSE its connection.
Step 7. One step 3 on that black window, the RUU flasher will pop up. Just follow the steps.

digitalknoll said:
i'm too scared to hardspl. i have the download, but not the nuts to try it. whats the hype about it anyway? it seems like some sort of badge for people in here. not you, but you know what i mean?
i'm gonna let the pro's go as far as they can with the OT V5 UL version and then probably go back to v4. gonna miss the UL (damn).
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Hey, I was scared for a LONG time to do it...I read so much info before I finally decided to do it! It took me like 2 weeks of reading before I decided. It's an EXTREMELY simple process. Plus, it makes flashing easier. I was getting weird errors trying the USPL method sometimes. Anyway, just do this.
FIRST, make sure your IPL number is atleast 4.000 or higher. You can check this by holding the camera button down, and then doing a soft reset. HOld the camera button down till you enter the bootloader menu. (It's like 3 gradient colors).
If it's higher, great, you are ready to proceed.
Next, download this file.
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/...l_WM6.rar.html
Unzip it, and it will contain 3 .cab files you need to install in a certain order.
1. Install canonyang.cab
2. Next, aserpolicy.cab
3. disablesecurity.cab.
Do a soft reset.
Put phone in flight mode!!!!
Now, go to the folder you just unzipped that file from. I think the default folder will be called hard-splwm6 or something like that. Go and run the RUU.exe file in it. Just follow the instructions. The screen of your phone will go white, but just wait, wait, and it will reboot itself.
Presto, you are hard spl, and can load whatever rom you wish!

Hard spl in detail Wing/Herald

This is for ne one that is looking for detail in making their Wing/Herald hard spl'd
Please do not get mad at me if it does not work.. But there are a ton of success stories with flashing Wing/Herald to Hard SPL..
#1:
Ok first check your ipl and spl.. You can do this by entering bootloader. bootloader (push the pin hole right under volume slide and hold camera button) you will then enter bootloader.. It looks like 3 color bars and say's ipl 4.xxxxx whatever and spl 4.xxxxx same.. Whatever the 4.xxx is thats what ipl and spl you are.. In order to become hard spl you must at least 4. and higher.. So if you see a 4 then your good..
#2:
Ok now that we have checked, soft reset your phone again and let it load.. This will get you out of bootloader and back to normal mode.. I was very careful on flashing.. So i always reverted back to oem rom.. So get the oem Wing rom or Herald rom.. If you can't find it let me know because i have it.. So just flash oem and let it be stock rom..
#3:
Ok now is getting ready to start from the very beginning.. Now if you have the 3 cabs (canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab) just install them in order as writen . After they were successfully installed soft rest your phone again..
#4:
Ok now we start the flash.. Its a scary few moments lol.. But very worth it.. Make sure you are synced and connected to your comp.. I also was extra careful by resetting my comp and making sure all windows were closed and made it so windows weren't open.. But i was extra careful Check the circle and make sure its green or if you have vista it'll be the pda icon lite up.. now open your hard spl folder (the rar. or folder that you dl'd for from the main page) and click on ROMUpdateUtility. Now just wait for it to finish the flash.
- If all goes well then it will come up something like Yang something something.. You will see a dif splash due to you dl'ing a new rom that makes your phone hard spl'd. Let it finish and your good.. Soft reset and enter bootloader and see if spl is 4.70 yang.. If so congrats your hard spl'd!!!!!! fo sho...
* Now to flash other roms all you have to do is get your oem rom and right click on it.. Extract it and you will see its contents.. Among its contents delete the spl.nbh file. Not the ruu.nbh.. Now you click romupdateutility.. I would make the extracted oem a special folder because this is now your new flashcenter.. Ne time you would like to flash a new rom all you have to do is simply replace the rom .nbh of your liking in this folder that you made and run romupdate.. All done.. Easy flashing.. lol.. Welcome to hard spl world!!! Now you can flash at ease.. Ne Herald/ Wing rom you have is now flashable except roms designed for micro sd cards (trasflash cards) Just use the .nbh files..
Please if you are are not ok with my instructions and wish special help(detailed help) with this put it on this thread. Others will learn from others concerns.. Even if the ? has been asked a million times still ask.. Please ask ?'s before flashing if something does not go with instructions..
Once again i'm not responsible for ne thing that happens to your wing/herald.. I am simply trying to help in-detail and be at assistance in ne way possible..
This is the dl from the orginal Hard SPL page. It contains everything thing you need.. (cab. files, .nbh for flahsing and romutility for flashing)
Give credit to Papamopps's for starting the Hard SPL thread
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
This is the oem tmobile rom update:
http://rapidshare.com/files/148795008/TMo_Wing_RUU_Update_4.26.531.4.exe

Good manual! thanks!

ruebyi said:
Good manual! thanks!
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no problem.. i had a friend in a dif thread needing help with hard spl and was looking for detail.. so here it is.. plus ill be as much support as i can be.

trust me if you follow those steps it will work and you will be on your way to great things

I have a question, I hard spl'd my wing before but since than I got another one since it broke. Do I have to install the cab files in a special order? It seems that I remember doing this in a special order before. I hope I did not over look this question in your thread. Good post by the way.

lmyers10 said:
I have a question, I hard spl'd my wing before but since than I got another one since it broke. Do I have to install the cab files in a special order? It seems that I remember doing this in a special order before. I hope I did not over look this question in your thread. Good post by the way.
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On the original thread there is a specific order.. canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab.. I had a second wing and did not fallow this order.. i just did it from bottom to top in alphabetical order. i kinda didnt care with the second wing thou.. i would do as the first theard says.. i totally forgot that there is an order.. i will edit.. thanks..

iPhone iWing said:
On the original thread there is a specific order.. canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab.. I had a second wing and did not fallow this order.. i just did it from bottom to top in alphabetical order. i kinda didnt care with the second wing thou.. i would do as the first theard says.. i totally forgot that there is an order.. i will edit.. thanks..
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I wasnt busting your chops ,just wanted to make sure I remembered right. I will be using your directions as a guideline as I am getting ready to hard spl my phone again.

lmyers10 said:
I wasnt busting your chops ,just wanted to make sure I remembered right. I will be using your directions as a guideline as I am getting ready to hard spl my phone again.
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O no man i wasn't coming close to taking it like that.. It was a big reminder!! Thank you.. Like i said thou i didnt do them in order on my other wing and it worked without a prob.. But do as recommended now.. I put that they need to be in the order i have posted.. Thanks.. I hope your hard spl goes great!!!
fo_sho..

thanks these are great instruction.and i believe anybody should b able to hard spl afer reading these directions...but hey who knows

Thanks it worked perfect

Ditto here. Thank you very, very much. Good instructions!
One little thing: "aserpolicy.cab" is actually "ASerg Policies.CAB" and "disablesecurity.cab" is "Disable_Security.cab" in the OEM ROM you provided a link to.

I just got a used Wing off Ebay. My IPL is 4.10.0002 and my SPL is 4.10.0000 and when I try to HardSPL I get to where the progress bar is but then it says it can't communicate with my PDA/PHone and dies on me.
I installed the CAB files in the order stated then soft reset then ran the ROM UPdate Utility. ActiveSync is active but it says it can't communicate. Did I do something wrong?
Thanks for any help.
*** Edit*** Got this figured out. I needed to go to Settings->Connections->USB to PC and check the box for Advanced Communications then run the ROM Update Utility
Lance

I followed these instructions perfectly, I got the new "yang" splash, I checked the bootloader and it confirms the spl is 4.70 yang but when i soft reset to get out of the bootloader and try to start the phone up it says:
"Error-Device start up failed due to sudden loss of power. Please click Yes or No to continue."
But there wasnt a power loss, and it wont let me click yes or no. Anyone know what happened and what I should do?
EDIT: Never mind, I got it fixed.

chaotic646 said:
I followed these instructions perfectly, I got the new "yang" splash, I checked the bootloader and it confirms the spl is 4.70 yang but when i soft reset to get out of the bootloader and try to start the phone up it says:
"Error-Device start up failed due to sudden loss of power. Please click Yes or No to continue."
But there wasnt a power loss, and it wont let me click yes or no. Anyone know what happened and what I should do?
EDIT: Never mind, I got it fixed.
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Maybe post how in case this happens to someone else?

iPhone iWing said:
This is for ne one that is looking for detail in making their Wing/Herald hard spl'd
Please do not get mad at me if it does not work.. But there are a ton of success stories with flashing Wing/Herald to Hard SPL..
#1:
Ok first check your ipl and spl.. You can do this by entering bootloader. bootloader (push the pin hole right under volume slide and hold camera button) you will then enter bootloader.. It looks like 3 color bars and say's ipl 4.xxxxx whatever and spl 4.xxxxx same.. Whatever the 4.xxx is thats what ipl and spl you are.. In order to become hard spl you must at least 4. and higher.. So if you see a 4 then your good..
#2:
Ok now that we have checked, soft reset your phone again and let it load.. This will get you out of bootloader and back to normal mode.. I was very careful on flashing.. So i always reverted back to oem rom.. So get the oem Wing rom or Herald rom.. If you can't find it let me know because i have it.. So just flash oem and let it be stock rom..
#3:
Ok now is getting ready to start from the very beginning.. Now if you have the 3 cabs (canonyang.cab, aserpolicy.cab, disablesecurity.cab) just install them in order as writen . After they were successfully installed soft rest your phone again..
#4:
Ok now we start the flash.. Its a scary few moments lol.. But very worth it.. Make sure you are synced and connected to your comp.. I also was extra careful by resetting my comp and making sure all windows were closed and made it so windows weren't open.. But i was extra careful Check the circle and make sure its green or if you have vista it'll be the pda icon lite up.. now open your hard spl folder (the rar. or folder that you dl'd for from the main page) and click on ROMUpdateUtility. Now just wait for it to finish the flash.
- If all goes well then it will come up something like Yang something something.. You will see a dif splash due to you dl'ing a new rom that makes your phone hard spl'd. Let it finish and your good.. Soft reset and enter bootloader and see if spl is 4.70 yang.. If so congrats your hard spl'd!!!!!! fo sho...
* Now to flash other roms all you have to do is get your oem rom and right click on it.. Extract it and you will see its contents.. Among its contents delete the spl.nbh file. Not the ruu.nbh.. Now you click romupdateutility.. I would make the extracted oem a special folder because this is now your new flashcenter.. Ne time you would like to flash a new rom all you have to do is simply replace the rom .nbh of your liking in this folder that you made and run romupdate.. All done.. Easy flashing.. lol.. Welcome to hard spl world!!! Now you can flash at ease.. Ne Herald/ Wing rom you have is now flashable except roms designed for micro sd cards (trasflash cards) Just use the .nbh files..
Please if you are are not ok with my instructions and wish special help(detailed help) with this put it on this thread. Others will learn from others concerns.. Even if the ? has been asked a million times still ask.. Please ask ?'s before flashing if something does not go with instructions..
Once again i'm not responsible for ne thing that happens to your wing/herald.. I am simply trying to help in-detail and be at assistance in ne way possible..
This is the dl from the orginal Hard SPL page. It contains everything thing you need.. (cab. files, .nbh for flahsing and romutility for flashing)
Give credit to Papamopps's for starting the Hard SPL thread
http://rapidshare.de/files/38148213/HardSpl_WM6.rar.html
This is the oem tmobile rom update:
http://rapidshare.com/files/148795008/TMo_Wing_RUU_Update_4.26.531.4.exe
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Awesome. I was worried about doing this because everything seemed out of date and etc on here but I figured the hell with it, it's been months and so many hours this week and it worked. Thanks. I was a little worried about the spl because it looked like an older version and said wm6 and not 6.1. Well everything worked out great, thanks for this. After hours and days of reading every thing I could, this was the only that did not leave me with too many unanswered questions making me worried about doing this.
*UPDATE* So I I did another one today (or tried) and kept getting that 260 error and don't know why yet (I know; it is some place in the forums) and after having it do it about 5 times I checked (unlike you said to) and it never updated the spl etc I was in a hurry but I don't think the error was my fault. But now I have a question: What exactly are the 3 cab files for? At first I thought that was what did the hard spl but then after doing it and reading this again (I learn by doing not reading) I realizied it is not. And second question is: Why does it have to be flashed with that ROM to hard spl it?

apathetic said:
Maybe post how in case this happens to someone else?
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It did allow me to click yes, I was just trying to touch the yes with my stylus but I had to click the left soft key. I dont know what caused the error but it seems to be working fine now and Ive successfully flashed 4 different roms.

chaotic646 said:
It did allow me to click yes, I was just trying to touch the yes with my stylus but I had to click the left soft key. I dont know what caused the error but it seems to be working fine now and Ive successfully flashed 4 different roms.
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Oh ok. I did 3 today and still did not see that (tg)

Hi!
Thanks for all the explanations.
My IPL is 4.18.0002 and SPL4.18.0000.
My phone is locked by a brazilian cell commpany TIM. Do I need to unlock my herald before to do a hard spl?
Thanks in advance
Gorbo

Hi Gordo, I am from Porto Alegre too and I hard-spled ok here.
You dont need to unlock before to do a hard spl.
Thanks.

apathetic said:
Maybe post how in case this happens to someone else?
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I have done the same yesterday ... the thing was I've forgot the storage card in the phone. There was mess of previous installation (mostly WM5). Today I've made clear installation of the official WM6 with the card out of slot. It is working perfect now.

[Q] Problems after a dodgy install.

DaveShaw Edit:
Split the thread from the NBH Extract thread.
Hi there!
First off all thanks for the great help and all the hard work you all doing!
Keep on going!
I have problem extracting my "RUU_signed.nbh" file using the the "NBHextract" tool. The "nbh" file I need is from the:
"RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom.
I'm trying to extract with the CMD, or trying to drag & drop the "RUU_signed.nbh" onto the "NBHextract", its says in the CMD: extracting. Bat in fact, noting happens! There only the same 2 file in the folder and nothing else.
Can any one help?
Maybe some of you can tray to extract the file and upload the result to www.rapidshare.com or somewhere else?
I'm using desktop with XP PRO English.
Please! I'm going crazy!

Shaico said:
Hi there!
First off all thanks for the great help and all the hard work you all doing!
Keep on going!
I have problem extracting my "RUU_signed.nbh" file using the the "NBHextract" tool. The "nbh" file I need is from the:
"RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom.
I'm trying to extract with the CMD, or trying to drag & drop the "RUU_signed.nbh" onto the "NBHextract", its says in the CMD: extracting. Bat in fact, noting happens! There only the same 2 file in the folder and nothing else.
Can any one help?
Maybe some of you can tray to extract the file and upload the result to www.rapidshare.com or somewhere else?
I'm using desktop with XP PRO English.
Please! I'm going crazy!
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I'm lost sorry
Have you downloaded the exe and need the NBH File? If so Install WinRAR, right click the exe and click Extract...
If you have the NBH file, then I suggest you re-try the steps you quoted again. Let me know if there are any errors on any steps.
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
I'm lost sorry
Have you downloaded the exe and need the NBH File? If so Install WinRAR, right click the exe and click Extract...
If you have the NBH file, then I suggest you re-try the steps you quoted again. Let me know if there are any errors on any steps.
Ta
Dave
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Well, I did those steps before, bat have no result. Don't see any error at the CMD. only show me the extract progress and at the end (after 2 min), there are no result! Only the same 2 file I started the progress. (RUU_signed.nbh + NBHextract tool)
I have the NBH and need to extract it... So I can continue to step 6 at these guide: Reverting back to the AT&T or HTC ROM and SPL for Warranty or return http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Can any one trey to extract the RUU_signed.nbh from
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88 .07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom for me and upload the result?
Thanks in advanced!
Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?

Shaico said:
Well, I did those steps before, bat have no result. Don't see any error at the CMD. only show me the extract progress and at the end (after 2 min), there are no result! Only the same 2 file I started the progress. (RUU_signed.nbh + NBHextract tool)
I have the NBH and need to extract it... So I can continue to step 6 at these guide: Reverting back to the AT&T or HTC ROM and SPL for Warranty or return http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568
Can any one trey to extract the RUU_signed.nbh from
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88 .07_1.27.12.11_Ship" Rom for me and upload the result?
Thanks in advanced!
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Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?

Shaico said:
Ok, update! I try to extract this in vista by drag & drop, and it worked!!! Bizarre...; and I got 5 file from the extract. The CMD still didn't work in the vista though...
Bat now i'm confused, because I read on other thread that I need to do Hard SPL first so I don't brick my TyTn 2 device... and in the guide:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335568),
its says I don't need to do Hard SPL. So what should I do?
let me tell you the reason I want to flash the SPL: I install Hebrew support pack that I download from the net and it work ok till I start to notice a rapidly massage of low memory (I didn't install nothing else!), bat the most reason fact that I want to flesh the SPL is because in addition of that message, the cracked Hebrew pack, showing me the logo of the company that made the pack; every time I restart the device, just before the HTC welcome logo and its showing for at lest 30 sec!!! Every soft reset!! So I try to uninstal that pack and its still showing every restart! Even, try to up grade to WM6.1, and still its there!!!! So I start to read some thread and think I need that spl flash so I can get rid of that "sticky" logo that slow my device and steal my memory!!
Can any one now something like that issue, and what shold I do in order to uninstall that long logo?
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OK I see what your getting at... Some facts first...
1. The guide you posted a Link to advises how to restore the Stock SPL and ROM if you have Hard SPL and a custom ROM. It does not mention Hard SPL for the simple fact that it is a guide on how to remove it (assumes you have it otherwise you wouldn't be reading the guide).
2. The SPL is the bootloader similar (in ways) to your PC's BIOS. I am pretty certain it has not been comprimised.
Firstly we need to know which splash was changed. There are 3 possible splashes that could have been changed. Have a look at this guide by -888- on upgrading you splash.
It is most likley to be one (or both) of the last two. Changing the first one requires Hard SPL and Flashing.
Rather than fixing the splash screens, I'd do a Hard Reset that will remove everything that was not part of your original OS ROM image.
If it is still there after that, I'd flash HardSPL and then flash a new Splash screen.
And, finally , this forum does not support cracked software, I will help you remove it however, if you promise to pay for it in the future
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
OK I see what your getting at... Some facts first...
1. The guide you posted a Link to advises how to restore the Stock SPL and ROM if you have Hard SPL and a custom ROM. It does not mention Hard SPL for the simple fact that it is a guide on how to remove it (assumes you have it otherwise you wouldn't be reading the guide).
2. The SPL is the bootloader similar (in ways) to your PC's BIOS. I am pretty certain it has not been comprimised.
Firstly we need to know which splash was changed. There are 3 possible splashes that could have been changed. Have a look at this guide by -888- on upgrading you splash.
It is most likley to be one (or both) of the last two. Changing the first one requires Hard SPL and Flashing.
Rather than fixing the splash screens, I'd do a Hard Reset that will remove everything that was not part of your original OS ROM image.
If it is still there after that, I'd flash HardSPL and then flash a new Splash screen.
And, finally , this forum does not support cracked software, I will help you remove it however, if you promise to pay for it in the future
Ta
Dave
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First off all, thanks for the help. I appreciate it!
I must mention that I buy the original version in advanced. I just was curious to check the net version and it turns out that it's not so good... to such an extent that I ruin me Kaiser...
now let me be more specific with me problem because i m not sure I explain the problem clearly and I don't want to start a progress that I don't know how to do....
So, like I say, after I finish the install of the language pack, I had to clear storage in order to crack the license. But since that, every restart, appear the logo of the software company for 30 sec!!! Every restart!!!! Its make me crazy!!!! (The logo appear just before the HTC logo load. (It's appear with the rom and the radio version = R.G.D). But this is not the main problem!! The most important problem is that since the install, its keep say me that I'm run out of memory, and I m even didn't install nothing!!! This is bad!
So off Corse I'm try to do hard reset and even try to upgrade to WM6.1, but the cursed logo is still there!!!!
Now, after I try to explain the problem, I want to know if the solution you recommended may solve the logo problem and more important the memory "leak"....
What I basically want is to bring me Kaiser to its original status like from "out of the box"... because it's only 2 week old!!!!!
I'm hope you understand me problem.
Thanks you in advanced!

Shaico said:
First off all, thanks for the help. I appreciate it!
I must mention that I buy the original version in advanced. I just was curious to check the net version and it turns out that it's not so good... to such an extent that I ruin me Kaiser...
now let me be more specific with me problem because i m not sure I explain the problem clearly and I don't want to start a progress that I don't know how to do....
So, like I say, after I finish the install of the language pack, I had to clear storage in order to crack the license. But since that, every restart, appear the logo of the software company for 30 sec!!! Every restart!!!! Its make me crazy!!!! (The logo appear just before the HTC logo load. (It's appear with the rom and the radio version = R.G.D). But this is not the main problem!! The most important problem is that since the install, its keep say me that I'm run out of memory, and I m even didn't install nothing!!! This is bad!
So off Corse I'm try to do hard reset and even try to upgrade to WM6.1, but the cursed logo is still there!!!!
Now, after I try to explain the problem, I want to know if the solution you recommended may solve the logo problem and more important the memory "leak"....
What I basically want is to bring me Kaiser to its original status like from "out of the box"... because it's only 2 week old!!!!!
I'm hope you understand me problem.
Thanks you in advanced!
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Do you have a storage card? I wonder if it flashed off the storage card? Anyhow, let's get busy...
Firstly remove anything you want to keep off the card and then format it.
Then flash the Hard SPL using the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (Second set of instructions in post #2).
Once, you have completed the flash, enter the bootloader before Windows Mobile loads.
Then, when you are in the bootloader flash a New ROM and Radio.
Hopefully that will remove everything that shouldn't be there.
Also, moving out of pof's thread. To a new one
Ta
Dave

DaveShaw said:
Do you have a storage card? I wonder if it flashed off the storage card? Anyhow, let's get busy...
Firstly remove anything you want to keep off the card and then format it.
Then flash the Hard SPL using the instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922 (Second set of instructions in post #2).
Once, you have completed the flash, enter the bootloader before Windows Mobile loads.
Then, when you are in the bootloader flash a New ROM and Radio.
Hopefully that will remove everything that shouldn't be there.
Also, moving out of pof's thread. To a new one
Ta
Dave
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I'm sorry, it didn't help! Or I didn't understand the mining of the post! so I follow the instructions and then what? Nothing change! It's all the same! I can't see any different! What else can I do? How can I erase all the data include all!! Data!! And start again and make it brand new again? Im just want this logo to go away!! How do I make my Kaiser new again with no foreign files that no came with me device from the factory! I want to Cray!! I can't help it any more! Please help.
Can you please help me live? Can we kindly chat in the messenger? I'm lost of me mind with all this posts and cant mange this alone!
Thank you in advanced!

Anyone can please help?

Hi, sorry for the delay.
The instructions in my last post should get you back up and running. You'll have have to read up on the wiki and the ROM Development stickies for more help.
I am at work now, and am pressed for time at the moment, have a look on #xda-devs chanel on FreeNode after 8-9PM (GMT) for me. I'll be able to chat then. (I am also on MSN, but I don't use it at home that often. I'll try and make an effort over the next few days.)
Ta
Dave

Task 29 aka MTTY for TD2?

I just performed this task 29 and rom upgrade for a friend and it worked well. I tried it on my phone but its the wrong model id obviously.
I was hoping somebody could make it so that it works on our phones as its a lot easier than performing the MTTY steps
It was in the rom section in the TP2 forum, so i put it in this section. Mods remove it if necessary but i felt this would be the right place for devs to modify it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=649191

try the RUU from attachment and let me know if it worked.

I tried it, and it works.

Not done this before, could you give a brief "How to" please?

Shambolicuk said:
Not done this before, could you give a brief "How to" please?
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Download the attachment, place your ROM's .nbh with it and that's it. Use it as normal.

MisterGT said:
Download the attachment, place your ROM's .nbh with it and that's it. Use it as normal.
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I did what u say, put the signed .nbh in the folder and ran the rom update utility.exe, it installed phone rebooted and now cant get past the touch diamond splash screen phone wont boot any ideas?
What is the rapitool.exe ?

I've posted before the Task29 for Touch Diamond 2 aka Topaz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6446054&postcount=11
REMEMBER It's going to erase everything on your phone after that you could flash any ROM as usual, this Task 29 package will replace your boot screen

Its ok i did some reading and im back up and running Many thanks guys.

is this a good app? wondering if i should give it a try...

eltoro said:
I've posted before the Task29 for Touch Diamond 2 aka Topaz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6446054&postcount=11
REMEMBER It's going to erase everything on your phone after that you could flash any ROM as usual, this Task 29 package will replace your boot screen
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I thought it might be, but searching didnt bring it up for me at least. So we should make it a sticky as it is in the TP2 forum.

!Aman! said:
try the RUU from attachment and let me know if it worked.
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works thanks

eltoro said:
I've posted before the Task29 for Touch Diamond 2 aka Topaz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6446054&postcount=11
REMEMBER It's going to erase everything on your phone after that you could flash any ROM as usual, this Task 29 package will replace your boot screen
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oops, never noticed it
xboxhaxorz said:
I thought it might be, but searching didnt bring it up for me at least. So we should make it a sticky as it is in the TP2 forum.
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no need to make a sticky, we can add it to Rollup section. i was hoping that as OP you take the responsibility of updating first post with proper info, instructions, credits blah blah, so that it is as useful a thread as in TP2 section.