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Screen Lock and Backlight

Is there a hack to not have the backlight automatically dim out when screen locking the phone? Any help appreciated on this. Thanks.

Yeah, use search. There's a quick & dirty fix that helps until HTC wakes up. It's in this thread somewhere.

Thanks,
I did search quite a bit. The fix I found was to diable the screen shutting off during a phone call. I haven't been able to find the fix for the backlight dimming out when screen locking the device.

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Hmmmm... Sorry you missed it. I went back a couple of pages and found ur answer; there are two:
1) Easiest remains to switch off-on your TyTN II after call. Ur back to normal then.
2) Option is a small app, written by Magxs that wakes the baby up after disconnect. See more here: link.
Hope this is of use.
edit: by the way, this only seems to happen to password protected systems. That is an option - switch off the PW. Lot of us can't due to corporate (exchange or goodlink) security pollicy.

Thanks Nukenine, however, this is not the issue I am questioning. Regarding the issue that you are speaking about, the following is the fix:
Modifying the DWORD stored in:
Code:
\HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\EnableFastDormantDisplayDuringCall
from "1" to "0" will leave the screen on and will fall back to the backlight/power settings
My question is when I key lock my device (the action that we can have on our today screen which says "Device Locked" or "Device Unlocked"), the screen automatically dims out. And when I tap on the screen, it stays dim, it does NOT become bright again. So, I am asking if anyone knows the registry hack on this issue. I hope I clarified what I am trying to find. Thanks again.

Sorry for misunderstanding.

It is a very easy fix.
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\LockLevel\
Change LockLevel to something other than 0. I use 4. The number indicates now many notches you have the slider moved up in the back light control panel.

Jason Lee said:
It is a very easy fix.
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\LockLevel\
Change LockLevel to something other than 0. I use 4. The number indicates now many notches you have the slider moved up in the back light control panel.
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Hey Jason,
Thanks for the info. However, when I change the number to 4 (I even tried 9), and then I screen lock my device, my original Backlight setting (set to turn off in 30 Seconds) changes to 10 seconds. When I unlock it, go to the backlight settings, change it back to 30 seconds and then lock it, it changes automatically back to 10 seconds. So the hack works, but it gets rid of the backlight settings and changes them to the ones mentioned above.
The more serious issue is when I soft reset the device. It seems that the number I entered into the registry path goes back to the default "0" automatically. I tried this three times and it always goes back to the "0" default, rendering the hack useless.
Any advice?
Thanks again.

Jason, any advice on the above? Is it possible it is because of the registry editor I am using (Resco Registry)?

Sorry it took so ling, been busy.
That is odd.. I guess i hadn't rebooted in some time.. Mine goes back to 0 as well. It doesn't have anything to do with your registry editor. Something is changing it back on boot. Probably one of the HTC services or something. So there may be no good fix for this.. Other than someone writing a program that will change it back after start up.
I don't have my back light ever set to go off after a time.. It seems pointless to me.. Just have the device power off after a time. Saves more power than just dimming the back light.
anyway.. i have not seen the issues you describe with that but i don't have it set that way.

Jason Lee said:
Sorry it took so ling, been busy.
That is odd.. I guess i hadn't rebooted in some time.. Mine goes back to 0 as well. It doesn't have anything to do with your registry editor. Something is changing it back on boot. Probably one of the HTC services or something. So there may be no good fix for this.. Other than someone writing a program that will change it back after start up.
I don't have my back light ever set to go off after a time.. It seems pointless to me.. Just have the device power off after a time. Saves more power than just dimming the back light.
anyway.. i have not seen the issues you describe with that but i don't have it set that way.
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Thanks Jason, I appreciate the reply and feedback.

This is bugging me too. I hope we find a solution for it soon. Is there a place in registry where startup programs can be defined? If yes, is there a silent tool we can use to import a reg file in the background at startup?

Screen off during phone call tweaks

There are two listed tweaks for preventing the Diamond from turning the screen off during a call. I've done them both, and nothing happens. Are these tweaks confirmed to work for all phones, or just on some? It says the "Sleep" one works on european ROM -- do all European phones have the same rom?

I'm having a simmilar problem... It seems that the screen turns off after a set period of time... I thought that the light sensor was supposed to only shut the screen off when you bring it up to your ear, light gets dull... I have the phone sitting in well lit room and done got near it yet the screen still turns off..?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&page=2
give it a shot

I've read that if you remove the stylus while in a call, then the note program comes on automatically, but the screen will also stay on until the call is finished

There are two listed tweaks for preventing the Diamond from turning the screen off during a call. I've done them both, and nothing happens. Are these tweaks confirmed to work for all phones, or just on some? It says the "Sleep" one works on european ROM -- do all European phones have the same rom?
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there are more and they are the right ones. it is the light sensor. do a search. this forum has already too many posts on this subject.
here u have one that is called "(Solved for diamond) How to disable fast dormant display during call?"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406094&highlight=Screen+call
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I've read that if you remove the stylus while in a call, then the note program comes on automatically, but the screen will also stay on until the call is finished
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yes, you are right and this is in my humble opinion the best solution. this way even if u touch with yr ear/cheek the screen no funny noises and no unwanted programs popping up not to mention that this way u have the choice and if you don't need the screen it stays black.

If you want to turn your screen back on during a call just simply press the round center button once and it will turn back on. no need for any hacks.

Thanks for the help
From what I have read, the phone screen should only turn off the screen when you bring it up to your ear/there is low light on the light sensor in the handsets ear speaker... My phone's screen shuts itself off after 3 seconds or so, doesnt matter where light is... If you just disable fastdormant (1 to 0), does the phone still shut itself off after x seconds or does it wait until there is a change in light?
Can anyone confirm/clarify the above???
Also is it possible to reactivate the display once the phone detects a sizeable change in brightness again? From reading the links posted, no one has found a solution for this one yet..?

The screen will not turn off as long as you continue to touch the center button during call. The default setting work fine with me until I need to get information during a call yesterday. The center button touch allow you to use other functions during phone call.

[EDIT] STRANGELY ENOUGH, AFTER ENTERING THE REGISTRY AND JUST LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THE KEYS HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEM BELOW...
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My problem is that my phone won't go into the sleep mode when calling. Covering the phone doesn't help (I've tested the light sensor, and that still works)
For me this feature is a positive thing so I would like it to work again.
The registry entry for the EnableFastDormant is still on "1". The HTC Phone Skin is loaded (without that skin it doesn't work either).
When searching the forum I come across people who want their screen to stay on... I want the opposite to happen again. Anybody a suggestion?

205_lacoste said:
My problem is that my phone won't go into the sleep mode when calling. Covering the phone doesn't help (I've tested the light sensor, and that still works)
For me this feature is a positive thing so I would like it to work again.
The registry entry for the EnableFastDormant is still on "1". The HTC Phone Skin is loaded (without that skin it doesn't work either).
When searching the forum I come across people who want their screen to stay on... I want the opposite to happen again. Anybody a suggestion?
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Check this reg entry as well:
HKCU\ControlPanel\Phone\Sleep - 1
HKCU\ControlPanel\Backlight\LightSensorPollingEnable - 1
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\BatteryTimeoutInCall - 5
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\BatterySuspendTimeoutInCall - 5
Also,
Start - Settings - System
Power
Advanced
Check the following:
Turnoff Backlight if device is not used for 30 Sec
Turn off Device if not used for 40 sec
All the best
Note: After changing Registry Entries.. (if you had to).. do a soft reset.

205_lacoste said:
[EDIT] STRANGELY ENOUGH, AFTER ENTERING THE REGISTRY AND JUST LOOKING AT THE VALUE OF THE KEYS HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEM BELOW...
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Problem solved by looking at the values...
wow.. now that has to be the BEST and the EASIEST TWEAK IN HISTORY!!

L o r d R a j said:
Problem solved by looking at the values...
wow.. now that has to be the BEST and the EASIEST TWEAK IN HISTORY!!
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I know... However, it bothers me as it doesn't really show realiability. Why didn't it work in the first place!? I'm experienced enough to know that I didn't do anything to the registry.

205_lacoste said:
I know... However, it bothers me as it doesn't really show realiability. Why didn't it work in the first place!? I'm experienced enough to know that I didn't do anything to the registry.
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**** happens mate... no point in beating yourself over it.
Besides - it's WINDOWS - since when did Windows care about RELIABILITY.
Chill.
Let's just hope it keeps working.

Problem with 1.93 ROM
Hey,
I cant seem to get the screen to stay on during a phone call using Asia WWE 1.93 ROM....
I have got BattTimeoutIncall = 0
BattSuspendIncall = 0
Phone\Sleep = 0
EnableFastdormant = 0
but the screen still turns off if i leave the phone sitting on the desk under light exactly when the call time ticks over to 4 sec (0:03 to 0:04)...
Ideas anyone, is this an issue with v1.93 rom?
Thanks.

this works!

Does this still enable the light sensor???
Still want the light sensor to work - i.e. turn off the screen when i bring it up to my head...

NightWolf88 said:
Does this still enable the light sensor???
Still want the light sensor to work - i.e. turn off the screen when i bring it up to my head...
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i dont think it disables it, but you can enable it either way with diamond tweak.

Blazeitup123 said:
i dont think it disables it, but you can enable it either way with diamond tweak.
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Thanks for that
It works, but when I enable the light sensor polling in reg it goes off after about 4 secs... This is with a very bright light and no movement of the phone (sitting on flat surface)...

the only on of thos I see in my reg is HKCU phone sleep
where the hell are the others?

alexfendi said:
If you want to turn your screen back on during a call just simply press the round center button once and it will turn back on. no need for any hacks.
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This is actually the best option because it turns off the screen when you want to conserve battery life.
So I just press the Center button when I want to see the screen to use the keypad or speakerphone.
Also, I have disabled the phone shade (curtain) by doing this:
Code:
HKLM/Software/HTC/Phone/PhoneLockEnable = 0

Have hardware buttons working (for 3rd app) when S2U2 active?

I'm trying to use Conduits Pocket Player with S2U2 version (1.13), and I'd like to have the hardware buttons (at least volume buttons) working even when S2U2 is active and locks the screen...
There are options in the player to allow buttons mapping even when screen is "locked" or when app is in background, but it looks like the "lock" intended by this app is not S2U2's lock...
I don't know if I made myself clear, but any help would be great!
Thanks!

hantoucc said:
I'm trying to use Conduits Pocket Player with S2U2 version (1.13), and I'd like to have the hardware buttons (at least volume buttons) working even when S2U2 is active and locks the screen...
There are options in the player to allow buttons mapping even when screen is "locked" or when app is in background, but it looks like the "lock" intended by this app is not S2U2's lock...
I don't know if I made myself clear, but any help would be great!
Thanks!
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S2U2 doesn't work very well with Diamond..at least a while ago when i tried it and finally got it set up the way i wanted, i noticed the home button wasn't locked. It doesn't lock the homebutton.. so it's kinda useless..
Maybe your Diamonds auto-lock is on? Every time the screen goes black, it gets locked automatically?

I don't think so.
It is totally useful to lock the screen. To have backlight off but screen on, to have it on but still locked when you touch the screen, in order to see what time it is, and other usages.
I personally never accidentally unlock my phone by using hard buttons, and furthermore do need them to be unlocked to use them while the phone is in my pocket.

djind said:
S2U2 doesn't work very well with Diamond..at least a while ago when i tried it and finally got it set up the way i wanted, i noticed the home button wasn't locked. It doesn't lock the homebutton.. so it's kinda useless..
Maybe your Diamonds auto-lock is on? Every time the screen goes black, it gets locked automatically?
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Yes you can, lock the home key

Maybe your Diamonds auto-lock is on? Every time the screen goes black, it gets locked automatically?
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What auto-lock config are you exactly talking about ?

No no no ?

hantoucc said:
What auto-lock config are you exactly talking about ?
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I misread your post.. I meant the autolock feature by holding down the end call button.. but it doesn't make any sense, cuz i misread ..
I used to untill I found out it doesn't lock the homebutton. But i might use it if it does now..
Sorry.. couldn't be of any help..
edit: I read something there about custom mapping sound control..maybe it'll help.. first post, all the way down.. but you should ask your question there .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412418
edit2: installing s2u2 will make side volume control button useless.. so maybe that's it.. check the above link

Sergio PC said:
Yes you can, lock the home key
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How?? Speak!!

[sticky!!!!] The "answer Only With Hw Buttons" option or similar solution...

[sticky!!!!] The "answer Only With Hw Buttons" option or similar solution...
...a lot to read... and a lot of solutions!
thank you guys!

Just an Idea... maybe its possible to set the Touchscreen sensitivity to VERY low everytime there is incoming Phone call. And then you cant accidentially press one of the onscreen buttons. However, i think registry entries only change after a softreset. MAybe there is some workaround?

this solution will affect the entire normal use of the diamond. :-(
anyone knows a cook?
it can't be so difficult.

I'm willing to pay the money saved in missed calls in one week. It could be a lot, for sure...

Agreed! it would be a great feature to have

diamondino said:
this solution will affect the entire normal use of the diamond. :-(
anyone knows a cook?
it can't be so difficult.
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Well actually i meant it a different way. Imagine.. There is an incoming Call... This call is recognized, and the touch sensitivity is set to very low. After the call is done, or the call is taken, the sensitivity is restored..

yep... but i suggest this like a second try....
the easiest way is to create a new phone skin.
the best is a "only hw buttons" option
i can't believe to the drink beer app... useless but true... and nothing about this bug... it's incredible.

I would be satisfied to have ALL the hardware keys to be locked during incoming calls and the screen locked and need to unlock the screen with ie a slide before be able to answer... As the hardware buttons also is easy to press when it's in the pocket when your sitting etc.

diamondino said:
I think we're half a million to damn this bug.
WE ALL NEED to lock the screen buttons.
WE ARE BORED of losing calls or answer accidentally taking out the diamond from our pockets.
WE NEED A SOLUTION.
WE DON'T WANT S2U2 AS A WORKAROUND.
HELP US.
AND YOU'LL BE REWARDED.
['cos right now... we still spending money on calls we miss. s##t.]
support this thread.
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I don't get it. My on/off button is set to lock all other buttons when the device is off, apparently meaning the display. At calls the display is off after a few seconds and I have two choices to bring it back - push the on/off or remove the stylo causing notes to launch. Hence the only insident where I can see a problem is when the display is trickered to go on (alarm or incoming call) and it's way down the bag you may push something. Here I suspect the solution is to have it in a pouch. Anyway, I have seen many yields about this so i'll surely be victimised one day as well.

Its a really challenging app to make.
Think about it. How can u lock the keys yet mantain the ability to answer anytime with one button.
Tough call

maybe using the light sensor ... in the pouch screen off- out the pouch screen on

emilceteras said:
maybe using the light sensor ... in the pouch screen off- out the pouch screen on
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what if your are in the dark? I think the best solution is to make a dialer without the buttons

pcharouz said:
what if your are in the dark? I think the best solution is to make a dialer without the buttons
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touch he screen to go on

emilceteras said:
touch he screen to go on
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then were back to square one were it dials lol

cornelious2 said:
then were back to square one were it dials lol
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No, touching the screen will not bring the screen ON, the only thing that will bring the screen ON is pressing a hard key.
It's an excellent idea to make the light sensor feel if it's in the dark, and if so shut down the screen, the only problem is that nobody knows how to reliably do this for all ROMs (even official).

Take a look here guys... already lots of posts on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402916&page=10

1 a new phone skin without any buttons is the easiest solution i guess
2 changing the sensibility pressure works only on soft reset
3 light sensor... nice, but i don't think it's the best way to do this
isn't a predefined "lock screen" function on the diamond?
i'm a developer but i dunno nothing about pda application... i think it's weird if no one thought to a simple "block screen" function.

emilceteras said:
maybe using the light sensor ... in the pouch screen off- out the pouch screen on
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pouch....hated the thing...go on
i don't think many people are using the pouch now there is more choice

counterfitninja said:
Take a look here guys... already lots of posts on this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402916&page=10
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take this thread like an official request...

anyway, IF anyone konws how to work for developing a new phone skin... i'll do it. but i'm not into pda since this diamond and i dunno where to start...

Screen goes off during call

Put my sim card in the compact 4 for the first time today as I sent my artemis off under warranty to be serviced (last day of 2 year warranty was today, cutting it fine! lol). During a call, the screen goes off after 4 seconds and I have to press the on/off button at the top to get the screen back. It's not the backlight dimming, it's effectively turning the phone off. I''ve checked in settings/system/power/advanced and there's nothing in there that points to this. I saw someone else mention this too but I don't think he got a solution. Why is it going off? Is it a phone problem or it's meant to happen? It's terrible. This doesn't happen when the phone is plugged in and charging during a call.

This is intended functionality: it saves battery and stops you pressing on-screen buttons with your ear (this is more of a pain in the a** than you'd first think...!). There are probably ways to turn this off, but I'm not sure how - it doesn't bother me.
There must be some advanced config tool/settings on this site somewhere for it.

BLCollier said:
This is intended functionality: it saves battery and stops you pressing on-screen buttons with your ear (this is more of a pain in the a** than you'd first think...!). There are probably ways to turn this off, but I'm not sure how - it doesn't bother me.
There must be some advanced config tool/settings on this site somewhere for it.
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Thanks for the info. Nah, this is bloody terrible, I can't be doing with the screen going off all the time. I never had a problem with the artemis and that had on screen buttons that could be pressed. Does anyone here have a tweak/cab file for this?

Screen off!
Personally, I like my screen going off - it saves a lot of battery and it only takes a tap of the centre button to put it back on anyway
If you really can't stand it, install Advanced Config by Schaps (attached) - I can't remember exactly where the setting is, but you can adjust it with this tool... and a shed load of other useful tweaks too

grahamkdt said:
Personally, I like my screen going off - it saves a lot of battery and it only takes a tap of the centre button to put it back on anyway
If you really can't stand it, install Advanced Config by Schaps (attached) - I can't remember exactly where the setting is, but you can adjust it with this tool... and a shed load of other useful tweaks too
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Thanks a lot, didn't realise the centre button turns it back on. Still, I'll try the tweak. And thanks for your reply to my other thread.

The center button doesn't turn it on for me. IIRC there was a tweak to get that to work but I've forgotten it. Anybody remember?

I've installed the advanced config utility, but it gives me an error saying:
'AdvancedConfig.exe. TypeLoadException. This application requires a newer version of the Microsoft.NET Compact Framework than the version installed in this device'.
Where do I look to see which version I have and where could I get the newer version of .NET Compact Framework? From this site or microsoft? Thanks.
Is this what I need, 3.5? Or is there a cab file that would be easier to install?
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...fd-ae52-4e35-b531-508d977d32a6&DisplayLang=en

Oops, double post.