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Problems with Unlocked Kaiser on AT&T

I've had my unlocked HTC Kaiser for 2 months now on the AT&T Network no problems. On Thanksgiving Day, my phone decided not to turn on after I left the phone to charge overnight. I figured it did not get a good charge so I tried recharging it. It was flashing red lights near the the top of the phone. So I go into AT&T on Friday to see if its the battery or the european charger that may be at fault. I played around a few combinations in the store and it suddenly/magically turned on. (I decided to buy the charger and extra battery anyways). The employee decides that for some reason or another, the phone needs a SIM Card. Well here is where everything went downhill.
After the new SIM card, I was unable to make or receive any calls, and no access to my data plan. Sometimes, I would have full signal bars but still was unable to make/receive phone calls. I've been able to make calls on very rare occasions; especially in this room in our school. What to give? So I went into another AT&T store and noticed that they had the incorrect IMEI number down in their system,. I asked for them to fix it but they said they couldn't change it for some reason and that the IMEI wouldn't be causing the problems I'm experiencing. So I finally called Customer Service Support on the phone and supposedly they were able to change it to the correct IMEI #. But still the same issues. I've done soft, hard, master resets, take out the battery + SIM card, you name it and still the same problem! When I took the SIM Card out of my phone and put it in a Blackberry, it did work! But when I took the Blackberry SIM Card into my phone, it did not. The support team told me that indicates that it is my phone; but I clearly told them that it could also be due to the fact that the towers just aren't recognizing my device no longer.
So I spoke to HTC about this and they said its the SIM card and they wanted me to go in and get another SIM card. So I went into AT&T today and got a new SIM card but same problem. Again, same issue. So I called AT&T Customer Support today and asked them to bump me up to Level II or III support. She says she cannot do that because my phone is unlocked (from HTC) and no support for that. I gave her the rundown on how my phone was working for 2 months until they put in the new SIM card and my cell phone activity clearly show that. Then she goes on to mention that other technical service reps that have helped me in the past few days clearly have pointed the culprit to be my device and not AT&T as they have exhausted all tests. And I told her, it's like taking a brand new car to a mechanic and then get the car back not running. If you ask the mechanic what did you do to my car, he's not going to admit to anything. She says that my device isn't being recognized by the towers. So then I brought up the point of "So is it my tower or is it really my phone?". I told her it's no problem getting a new phone but if I get a new phone, will it be unrecognized by the towers again. She said yes because it is unlocked. I said what about the thousands of other people who use unlocked Kaisers or any phone for that matter as they seem to have NO problems. They basically want you to buy the phone directly from them.
In all, I've spent nearly 10 hours on trying to get this thing to rework and be able to place/receive phone calls. Whether this is due to the events which ensued after the red light indicator on Thanksgiving Day OR the fact that AT&T switched my SIM Card and caused my device to be undetected by towers (whether it was due to the fact they put in the wrong IMEI in the first place or any adjustment they made to my account) remains to be determined.
The only options that remain is: 1) Go to TMobile and try out their SIM card on my phone and see if it works. I highly doubt they too will let me do that as they consider phone unlocked and don't want to help 2) Get a new phone through HTC and hope it'll work on AT&T again.
Any ideas or support??? heheh. your help is truly appreciated

I feel you pain Brother.......
I don't have a clue how IMEI and towers can just not register your device...though....but anyhow, did you check if you have the Phone in the Dialing screen-Menu-Options, then the tab BAND on the bottom and both of them selected as AUTO? if not, then try changing bands.......
If you know that then, I'm thinking only of AT&T could have blacklisted you or some sort.......but that is highly unlikely......
I had some problem like that when i'm out of the country using Foreign Chips, and it seems the Kaiser needs a bit of time to adjust to new sims, and that can take minutes, hours...or even days......who knows what is happening as the phone is "learning"....... hope this helped you a bit....

I've been using my Kaiser for several months now and I did not register my IMEI, I just popped the sim out of my 8525 and took off running. It sounds to me like your phone has failed in some way, especially if your new sim works fine in another phone. The question now really is, where can you get a Kaiser fixed in the US? I spoke with HTC on another subject and I get the feeling that it may be difficult. I got mine from a shop in Canada, guess I'd have to go thru them.
In any case, good luck, it will be interesting to see what it turns out to be.

I second RemE -- like him, I bought a Tytn II & plugged in the SIM from an older phone (in my case a Qtek 9100 not bought through AT&T/Cingular), and have had no problems.

i had a similar problem with my 8525. I bought a Tilt to replace it, and about a week later I gave the 8525 to my son to use. neither his SIM card or mine would work in the 8525, but they worked in other phones. I brought the phone to the AT&T store and the guy there did something on his computer, then the phone was able to work. I'm not saying that AT&T blacklisted it, because I don't really know. But it took a change by the AT&T rep at the store to get the phone working again.

I have been using Kaiser with ATT for three months now with no problem. I just used the sim card from my Blackberry and so far, no problems.

"No SIM"?

Tilt was previously working. Now shows "No SIM" on screen when any SIM is inserted.
Any idea what the issue might be?
I am not the current owner of the tilt, nor do I have access to it to test anything, so that is basically everything I know about it.
What is your best guess?
Thanks

is it your phone or is it a phone you got of e-bay.
If of e-bay it may be that yur IMEI is barred.

saopacic said:
is it your phone or is it a phone you got of e-bay.
If of e-bay it may be that yur IMEI is barred.
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Ebay.
Well if that is that case great, because my carrier does not ban IMEIs, so it will work perfectly for me.
Is that really the message you would get if your IMEI was dissabled though? That doesn't really make sense, as it would see the SIM and you would see it say: Searching for network... Registering... and then it might say no SIM, but it says no SIM right away, so that can't really be it.
Any other ideas?

this is usualy a bad sim card..
usualy either a worn card.. or possibly an issue on the att side with your sim number
if you frequent any core att stores you might could get a free one..

I stopped bidding for it on eBay, cuz I don't feel like taking the risk.
It sold for $127.50

Sounds silly, i know, but i had the same a while ago, found the sim goes in and locks shut back to front the contact part going in last, just maybe this simple

I had a similar problem with my new Tytn II. Only 3 days old and after I took out and reinserted SIM, I got the "No SIM" message, same problem with another SIM card as well.
Just as I was ready to return the device, after a final test with my SIM card, it decided to work. I have not taken out the SIM since and this problem hasn't shown up.

There have been a couple of threads on this problem.
It would seem that the design of the SIM connector is not all that it should be.
My main SIM sometimes wouldn't connect and another couple of SIMs would not connect at all.
A piece of paper, folded if necessary, inserted between the SIM card and the metal clip to increase the contact pressure has completely fixed the problem on mine, but apparently it has not worked for everyone.

sim card issue

so my father went to boston the other day and for some reason his sim card got messed up he has an nokia its an older modle that he had for years it think its the 1110 model number will anyways they gave him a new sim card he puts it in and he gets a message saying restricted so i put my sim card in it and i get the same thing and i put his sim card in my tilt and it works fine so i think it might just be the sim card is new and the phone is so old anyone else knows what else it could be ??

update is a nokia 6230

Doesn't sound like a sim error. Could be the pone does not support the newer technolgy?

yeah i know it from the start and it was the sim card he decide to get the iphone but was really cool i saw the new htc touch pro or the fuze as att called it i played around with it and everything and its sooooo badass its so much smaller then the tilt but a lil heavyer it takes really good pictures a big improvement from the tilt and it also comes with opra ready on it which is realy nice i really like it alot and cant wait to get it next month

Virtual SIM card?

Hi,
So I was thinking, is it possible with some driver may be to make a virtual copy of a physical SIM card, possibly copy 3-4 cards and make the phone work in multi-card mode without the need of SIM cards being physically present?

now that would be nice, a great idea, im pretty sure someone could make something like this since like other phones like sprint dont have a sim card sometimes are programed directly to the phone maybe its the same prosses.
also would make it easier for many like me that have 2 or more sim cards i myself have a T-Mobile (US) and Movistar (Mex.) sim cards and its a bother to have to change them when visiting like right now im in Mexico at the moment.
but it also would bring up another problem to have something like that.
for example someone gets your sim card (if you dont know anything about such program and if made) and someone with mischeif on their minds saves your sim information and uses it as they please. (then again. its just like stealing your phone, you would call your provider and disactivate it so no further charges would apply the second you knew that something was up. its just harder to know since you would have to wait till the bill comes in)
but if at all possible i would use it for good. would be nice

tombrighteyes said:
now that would be nice, a great idea, im pretty sure someone could make something like this since like other phones like sprint dont have a sim card sometimes are programed directly to the phone maybe its the same prosses.
also would make it easier for many like me that have 2 or more sim cards i myself have a T-Mobile (US) and Movistar (Mex.) sim cards and its a bother to have to change them when visiting like right now im in Mexico at the moment.
but it also would bring up another problem to have something like that.
for example someone gets your sim card (if you dont know anything about such program and if made) and someone with mischeif on their minds saves your sim information and uses it as they please. (then again. its just like stealing your phone, you would call your provider and disactivate it so no further charges would apply the second you knew that something was up. its just harder to know since you would have to wait till the bill comes in)
but if at all possible i would use it for good. would be nice
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Indeed, i hope it is possible. I dont think theft would be any problem at all, because the gsm network should not accept simultaneous login from the same SIM card. It just makes sense to be this way. I myself have to use up to 5 cards and growing. Ultimately, virtual SIM cards would also enable purchasing cards from the internet and also cheapest route selection, things like this..

point made.
you have a point.
i forgot about the network not allowing you to have two at the same time.
but yeah then again, it shouldn't be much of a problem i think. 5 cards is alot.
but you're right if such a program where made, it would open the market so mucho more and one could actually buy online sim card info. and if this program where made, one could save the info to the phone then back it up to a computer (where it's safe, most of the time atleast) and maybe the same program could write back to a sim card thats not activated (for purposes just as loosing a sim card, but not the info.) now there's an idea for ya.
would be super nice!
too bad i have no clue on how to program such things, but ideas i have
if anyone takes the challenge to create it, if at all possible i would gladly donate since i would use it surely.

Possible, but..
It's possible if you have the Ki and IMSI values from your SIM. The IMSI is easy, but cracking the Ki is only possible in old SIM cards, using COMP128-1 encryption.
All the SIM cloning tools on eBay can clone only these old cards.

A virtual sim card is a really cool idea. No more swapping sim cards between you primairy phone and your backup phone... (I only have only one sim)

kolomparrudi said:
It's possible if you have the Ki and IMSI values from your SIM. The IMSI is easy, but cracking the Ki is only possible in old SIM cards, using COMP128-1 encryption.
All the SIM cloning tools on eBay can clone only these old cards.
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IMSI can be be read with an nokia e51 using the blackberry connect softwre. you can see the imsi value in the programe info where you must enter to view you PIN.

emilgaig said:
IMSI can be be read with an nokia e51 using the blackberry connect softwre. you can see the imsi value in the programe info where you must enter to view you PIN.
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Hi
No they give you the IMEI number not the IMSI.
The problem you would have is that sooner or later the networks would block your phone because they will see the fact that your phone is running 4-5 mobile numbers with ONE IMEI no. Ebay is littered with Cheap dual active SIM phones. They only have one IMEI and sooner or later the network(s) will switch off your phone.
The way round this is to have 2 IMEI numbers to run 2 sim cards at the same time...abit like the Samsung D880. This basically means you have 2 phones with 1 screen and 1 keypad...i have one and i know these work great!!.
Regards
Wasim

The will not block you for changin sims, right?
And also GSM won't allow you to register simulteniously two sims, only one at a time...
Cos TD has only ONE GSM inside, not two as Samsung DuoS

What the progress of the topic, people?

I certainly hope this is not possible. I wouldn't want to know anyone can copy and use my simcard. That would be an unacceptable breach of security for any mobile phone user.

This might be a good breach, and it exists, just need a tool to use it with windows mobile! I can even now COPY MY SIM to another sim, yes - it's need a liitle crack with it, but card itself intact, and i can have a copy
So - What are solutions now for windows mobile?

i really like to know if it is possible. but i dont think an emulator is a must because in ppc we can easly turn off the cellular connection and turn it on again. that way (if you've used old 3in1 sim cards, you'd know) you can change the operator. every time you restarted the gsm connection, your operator will change.
and what about connecting to more-than-one operator at the same time?
cheers

and what about connecting to more-than-one operator at the same time?
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that function is not possible (c) Thor, Stargate SG-1

pedmond said:
I certainly hope this is not possible. I wouldn't want to know anyone can copy and use my simcard. That would be an unacceptable breach of security for any mobile phone user.
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I am in Saudi & have 3 sim cards(STC) with the same number. One in my laptop, One in my Samsung, one in my Diamond. All work for internet at the same time to use for phone I activate by *123$ (this is then primary card for incoming & texts). When in Spain I have 2 cards(Movistar) both of these work & ring at the same time, but text messages only goes to one of them.

Virtual Sim Card
hello ladies and gentleman this is a very good idea i was thinking about the same idea today... In the virtual sim card there should be a tracking device installed in the phone so that when it is stolen you can track down the phone or the company can switch of the phone and it will have no use and all your data is safe... I am all the way in africa Botswana and my name is delmar dube i am willing to do more research on this because i want to see it come true

I would be surprised if this was possible... the GSM chipset firmware is pretty much sealed off from a phone's operating system except for the AT command interface. Otherwise people would be able to fiddle with transmit power which would invalidate the phone's FCC/etc certifications.

Any progress??
Heyy like most on this forum thread I just thought of this last night, I have an unlimited plan with Wind Mobile (who's coverage is um.... not great) with Unlimited internet and talking and texting for $29/mo. Unfortunately I spend the majority of my time outside their current coverage area, and would like to get one of Telus' "One Number Unlimited" voice plan ($7/mo) for when I'm outside of Wind's area but still want to call my girlfriend. Virutal Switchable SIM cards would be a great solution since my phone doesn't exactly like to co-operate with me when I try to turn it on after having the battery removed to get access to the SIM slot. Plus I don't want to be carrying around a little tiny piece of plastic that'll give me chaos if I ever lost it.
Anyways I'm running a Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4g (4g is the name of the phone, it's just LTE of 3G though), It's running ICS 4.*something.
Oh yeah, sorry for being a grave-digger

I love this idea. I mean apple now has patents for virtual simcards, I really hope the android market follows suit. I have 6 sim cards and counting (Afghanistan, Switzerland, United States, Korea, Philippines, and UAE), and would love to be able to purchase and activate my "virtual sim card" off of say the Google Play Store, prior to flying into a country.
I wouldn't mind some kind of DRM or whatnot, just being able to buy service before I go into country, and then have calling and data capabilities as soon as I walk off the plane would be worth it.

I have a korean Galaxy S2, which has the sim tray damaged, being impossible to connect any SIM card.
If I could use virtually my SIM card, I coud use this phone.
Is this possible??
I just wanted to use one SIM card just for phone calls, dont even need services like internet...

Strange question about g1/mytouch

maybe someone who works for a phone company would know:
I added my mother to my wife and my Tmobile family plan.
She wanted a g1, i have a g1, i had her get the mytouch with her discount so i could have it and ill just switch sim cards
Now we are waiting for the signal to come to the mytouch, the signal that cancels her old phone service and activates the mytouch with her phone number.
Can i switch the sim cards now and let her have my g1? I guess the question is, will it activate based on where the sim card is or will the signal activate her phone number on the new mytouch if my sim card is in there? I really want to start playing with the new phone but I dont want to screw anything up. Many thanks

As long as you both have the Android wireless monthly plan, it doesn't matter which phone you have. It's actually kind of funny b/c my GF and I did just that. She had a G1, but wanted a Mytouch, so I upgraded to Mytouch and we just switched phones. It works just fine.

The phone is already activated just put your sim in and go, your plan is tied to your sim and does not matter what it is put in

awesome thank you

True ^^
I have an JB'n and UL'd iPhone 3g as well as my gPhone, and every couple days or so I'll switch the sim from one to the other just for kicks. And as long as the iPhone (or any other smartphone) I put it in has the right APN, it works fine.

BlackElvis79 said:
True ^^
I have an JB'n and UL'd iPhone 3g as well as my gPhone, and every couple days or so I'll switch the sim from one to the other just for kicks. And as long as the iPhone (or any other smartphone) I put it in has the right APN, it works fine.
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i wish i knew what the right apn is. I took a yet-to-be activated sim card out of the mytouch and put it in my rooted g1. Its already been 24 hours but the sim card should activate fine this way correct? thanks