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help plz my tilt is eating memory

Last night I got a popup saying that my storage memory was low. it was at .05mb. I thought this was a bit low, but I went and deleted some stuff and got it up to 5.5mb. I then actually watched the memory count down to .01. I dont know if this is a virus or what. I tried to use sprite but it didnt work, also there is an icon was added to my HTC launch page, looks like a piece of paper witha windows symbol.
i have HTC Home, touch cube, kaiser tweak, voice command, garmin xt, just the basics. Please help

try clearing the browser's cache. the same thing happened on my old ppc even though I know I didn't have much installed, but clearing the cache fixed it.

I dont think it was the cache that was the problem but i could be wrong, i kept deleting stuff and nothingi did worked. Also when i hooked it up to sync it just kept cycling through the sync.
Needless to say i just did the hard/doft reset back the the beginining. Now I have to decide whether or not to reinstall all the programs or flash the rom

Are you using a cooked or stock ROM? A lot of cooked ROMs will contain fixed-size page pools, and while they are great for performance, they tend to have memory leaks.

i am using a the stock rom

None of the programs you listed are known for causing memory leaks, so I would reload all of them as usual, and see if the problem returns.
It may have just been some registry corruption causing it.

Well Windows is know to cause Memory issues.
Best thing I can recommend is a Hard Reset and Restore all your programs.

thelaserman said:
Last night I got a popup saying that my storage memory was low. it was at .05mb. I thought this was a bit low, but I went and deleted some stuff and got it up to 5.5mb. I then actually watched the memory count down to .01. I dont know if this is a virus or what. I tried to use sprite but it didnt work, also there is an icon was added to my HTC launch page, looks like a piece of paper witha windows symbol.
i have HTC Home, touch cube, kaiser tweak, voice command, garmin xt, just the basics. Please help
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I see you're using Garmin XT, now i don't use that program, but does it download maps? I know that most mapping programs can chew through memory like you wouldn't believe. I use all the other programs and have never run out of memory before...of course truth be told, i've never left a rom on for very long either...

AT&T Tilt Very Slow and Typing Takes Forever

Hey Guys. My AT&T Tilt phone has become insanely slow over time and when I go to text message people, when im using the keyboard, half the time letters will not register so I will have to wait for it to get up to speed and very slowly type out letter by letter. Also, a lot of the times I will have to press the key multiple times just to get it to be recognized. I was wondering if I flash the phone with a ROM, will it fix this problem?

Usually this problem can be attributed to not having enough free memory on it. try flashing a nother rom and I'll bet that will solve your problem or just clean out your phone.

i took my att rom off, and typing has become so much easier for me..
I use the hyperdragon rom now,
but it is true, u shouldnt try typing a text message when using heavy programs on any rom. it just drains out all the ram that u need.

I'm having the same problem. I have a lot of things installed, but 90% of it is on the card. I have 96MB free on the device. Nothing but ActiveSync is actually running.

Hmmmmm i know ive read many places that more than likely the slowness in typing comes from T9. Search for "Disable T9"....... people have made cabs to bake it easy.

OK. I disabled the "suggest words" option in the settings. I'll see if that helps.

Maybe you guys need to read where to install softwares on pocket pc and also how to backup your pocket pc.
By installing in appropriate locations, the device can be free from junk and even if junk accumulates, backing up pocket pc helps in future.
Regards,
Carty..

Thank you Carty!
I found out why my tilt was laggy! its cuz i installed everything on storage card! even if it was supposed to be installed on the device (aka system files and related system processes)

turning off the word correction did help a little. it's still slow but nowhere near as bad.

try this it worked great for me
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Kaisers slow down a week or two after flashing

Hey guys
I was wondering, I've noticed that no matter which ROM I flash onto my kaiser, after a couple of weeks it slows down tonnes, it gets really really bad interface lag and all, but after a flash it is speedy and responsive. I was wondering to what extent having lots of SMSs stored and call logs might effect this but it seems in my mind that it should be negligible.
Is this a known bug with a fix or do I just need to reflash every week?
Thanks guys
Rich

Septastrum said:
Hey guys
I was wondering, I've noticed that no matter which ROM I flash onto my kaiser, after a couple of weeks it slows down tonnes, it gets really really bad interface lag and all, but after a flash it is speedy and responsive. I was wondering to what extent having lots of SMSs stored and call logs might effect this but it seems in my mind that it should be negligible.
Is this a known bug with a fix or do I just need to reflash every week?
Thanks guys
Rich
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What Hard SPL version are you using?
You should be using Hard SPL 3.* for WM6.1 ROMs.
Ta
Dave

3.29 ... it's confusing
On the newest dk4 though, whatever that is. Might flash to DK5 later today if I have the willpower lol.
My guess is theres some service trying to do something with the sms messages like indexing and when you have 500 messages it just uses so much system resources everything slows down.
That would explain why when you type to search for a text the results are almost instant. But really the feature isn't that good to justify it being this slow.

You running it with zero installed apps? I'd guess something is misbehaving.
I would assume if you hard reset, the problem completely goes away? I can't imagine it being fixed by flashing.
My Tilt has its fits.. Sometimes it moves very slow and a reset may or may not mostly fix it, other times it just blazes with zero lag. If I look in MemMaid, I see no CPU hogs, ram is reasonable, etc.. Static 6M pagepool... Oh well.
A soft reset almost always fixes it going slow for me. I've never hard reset, certainly not reflashed to get it back up to norm.

Hard reset doesn't really speed it up, but return to m'facturer settings does. Unless that is a hard reset lol. Basically - turning on/off doesn't speed up but holding down softkeys at bootup and clearing off data like you do when you flash does speed it up.
I'm not running it with 0 aps though, I get the bundled apps with the roms. But really its never really mattered which ROM it is.
After deleting a few hundred messages manually, it's sped up dramatically, so I'm going to push the boat out and guess it is actually the SMSs that is slowing it down.

Well, there are several things that will help slow the phone down.
sms messages
lengthy call logs
Temporary internet files
programs that are not totally closed when you close them (check out task manager or battery status)
Things like this slow it down. Oh and a hard reset takes it back to factory.

ChumleyEX said:
Well, there are several things that will help slow the phone down.
sms messages
lengthy call logs
Temporary internet files
programs that are not totally closed when you close them (check out task manager or battery status)
Things like this slow it down. Oh and a hard reset takes it back to factory.
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<pedantic>Hard reset resets it back to the ROM defaults. Factory isn't quite the right word, since he's using a cooked rom.</pedantic>

It seems weird that just 'more data' will slow things down. I mean if you have a PC with a data hard disk, it shouldn't matter whether it has 1gb of files or 500gb of files, the PC should still run just as fast for everything except the tasks which must directly deal with the files i.e. search / defragmentation and that kind of thing.
I'll just remember to delete my SMS messages frequently now, I guess. Seems a shame since the Nokia N95 has no problems holding hundreds and this is supposed to be a superior phone.

Septastrum said:
It seems weird that just 'more data' will slow things down. I mean if you have a PC with a data hard disk, it shouldn't matter whether it has 1gb of files or 500gb of files, the PC should still run just as fast for everything except the tasks which must directly deal with the files i.e. search / defragmentation and that kind of thing.
I'll just remember to delete my SMS messages frequently now, I guess. Seems a shame since the Nokia N95 has no problems holding hundreds and this is supposed to be a superior phone.
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There must be some behind-the-scenes processing going on with messages, and other data -- perhaps the phone has to sort them -- who knows?
Anyway when I get a message (which isn't too often) I delete it right away -- and if I need to keep it as a note or a reminder then I'll type it in as a note or as a task.
Which reminds me -- how come we don't have a context menu to turn a SMS or MMS into a new contact, note, task or calendar item??

I can confirm the SMS theory. I think threaded SMS are particularly responsible for slowing down the device. I basically have one person i talk to mostly, which has a very very long threaded sms (basically weeks of SMS in one thread) and my device got very slow and unresponsive as well. This becomes particularly clear when you try to WRITE a SMS! Typing lags, the menu comes up slowly etc. So i deleted the sms thread (left the threads to other ppl which contained like 3-4 msgs each) and it was fine!
I think the phone loads the WHOLE sms, even the parts it doesnt show and that slows things down.

basic enthusiast questions

i got a few questions...
1) i have on average 36m of available memory, is this normal? i got task manager app and seem to be at my optimization limit..
2) im on stock 1.5 now, what is the fastest and most efficient firmware out now that reduces the bloat and optimizes the phone, and how do i put it on the phone
3) what else can you do with the usb cable, is there a 3rd party android client for pc or something like that? anything interesting like that
thanks

1) I assume you mean 36 MB of RAM available? Not internal memory? If so, yes that is actually very good, I average less than 25 and tend to stay under 20 MB
2) There are ROMs on the G1 going all the way up to 2.2, I for one have chosen to stick to 1.6 because, I know many people will disagree with me on this, but I simply just believe the G1's hardware wasn't really meant to go anywhere above 1.6. 2.2 and anything above 1.6 in my opinion is a bit too slow and cumbersome for me. I believe you should make the move to 1.6, maybe SuperD which is what I have been using for half a year now. 1.6 more closely integrates the search function and search tools, when you upgrade to 1.6 you will quickly see what I mean by that and it tends to cause a bit of lag and takes a large chunk of memory, though it is more convenient.
3) Well... you can use it for ADB (Android Debug Bridge). You can use it with Android ScreenCast, which is a program that allows you to use your G1 from your computer as long as it is connected to your phone, you can see whats on the screen, click, etc.
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I don't know if you have rooted your phone or not, but you will definitely need to do that first. Find instruction for that, there are only like a couple dozen threads telling how on XDA.
Find your ROM, again I recommend a 1.6 ROM, but feel free to give 2.2 a try and see if you like it. Install it, do be careful and read the instructions very carefully, especially when it comes to flashing a new radio image, you can brick your phone rendering it unusable.
So just look those things up, follow instructions carefully, reread everything in the instructions before doing anything and of course, in the case you do mess up, I can't be held responsible, I just provided you with a start. Best of luck!

there was an update to 1.6 so im on 1.6 now
since the g1 appears to have a limited amount of ram, is apps2sd worth it, say if i get a class 6 sd card of newegg, how difficult is it to install apps to the sd, and what is the performance
will the sd card deteriorate over time and lose performance?
i just want to put together the most efficient longest lasting setup
btw my i was checking my ram i guess through the task manager app, my free internal memory is like 50+mb..i dont see the point of an sd card if its not even being used, so running apps off the sd is what interests me, i dont have much other reasons to root

RAM really doesn't have that much to do with Apps2SD. I believe you should go ahead with the Apps2SD, but it really depends on how many applications you have. If you have anymore than 30 or so applications, you should go with Apps2SD. I for one am not certain about the effects of low internal memory, except that it gives you an alert every once in a while. My phone has "grown up" with Apps2SD from the start, so I don't have much experience on how a phone runs without it. The thing with Apps2SD is that it might be a hair slower than storing in internal memory, but that is a given. I use a Class 4 SD card and it still runs really nicely, a Class 6 SD card should definitely be good.
The lifetime of an SD card is pretty dicey, it really depends. SD cards have a certain amount of read and write cycles they can do before they finally kill over. Using Apps2SD will be a bit more harder on the SD card, especially if you use a Swap partition too. I use both, and my SD card is still working even a year and a half later.
One benefit, though I don't know how much this means to you, more internal storage data gives you more storage for system applications, such as for Contacts, text messages, etc.
A word of warning though, as using these features like Swap and Apps2SD does put more work on the SD card, the chance of error and corruption on the card itself increases a bit too. So far, I have had two instances in the year and a half where my SD card simply just blanked out. The first time around I lost everything that was on it, music, pictures and all my applications and application data and my phone could no longer boot (this was an issue with older ROMs back in the day of Android 1.0 and when everyone though Cupcake was a myth, when running Apps2SD, the phones would need the SD card to boot, it is no longer a problem). Just a suggestion, backup what is on your SD card every once in a while. I don't mean to scare you with that, it is extremely rare for that to happen, I believe I was just unlucky.
With Apps2SD, I actually feel a lot more free on my phone. I can install tons of applications and not have to worry about running out of memory, I have over 100 applications installed, which the internal memory (because of the applications I have) can't even hold.
So to wrap it up, I apologize for the long winded explanations, I say go Apps2SD, it really is worth it. Most of the ROMs today support automatic Apps2SD, whenever you install an application it just automatically goes onto your Ext3 partition. (Yes, you will need to repartition your SD card to have an Ext3 partition as well as a Swap partition if you want, this can be done really easily with Amon's Recovery Image.) In some ROMs, you can just go to the settings/ Spare Parts section and check Apps2SD.

so basically app2sd has only to do with the internal memory...it will not help free the ram even with a swap drive, is this what your saying correct
it will help only with installed applications

Yes that is correct, Apps2SD is designed to keep internal storage memory free and open for other things like text messages, call logs, internet data (cache, cookies, etc) and cache data for other applications like Google Maps and the Android Market.

where are the text messages stored by default, in the internal memory or the sim card, cause my old phone could hold only 25 messages in the sim card, how does this work on here

Messages are stored in internal memory and no where else, they can be moved to the SIM card with other applications, though space is extremely limited there.

hitman3x said:
1) i have on average 36m of available memory, is this normal? i got task manager app and seem to be at my optimization limit..
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This is a linux based system.. "free" memory is pretty much meaningless. Stop worrying about it. Task manager apps are a waste of time and actually cause a lot of problems in android.
hitman3x said:
2) im on stock 1.5 now, what is the fastest and most efficient firmware out now that reduces the bloat and optimizes the phone, and how do i put it on the phone
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Why don't you root your phone and find that out for yourself? Everyone has their own favourite build so you won't get many meaningful answers here.
hitman3x said:
3) what else can you do with the usb cable
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Err.. I don't know.. lace your shoes with it? That's an odd question.

hitman3x said:
3) what else can you do with the usb cable, is there a 3rd party android client for pc or something like that? anything interesting like that
thanks
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Well once rooted, with most roms you can tether your pc to your phone for internet access (using the phone as a modem so to speak). useful if you are in dire need of internet access using a pc/laptop with no current available wired connection.

alright i figured most of this out i tried thedudes lite and dwang 1.17.1 build
the only problem i have is any build on donut (1.6) makes my camera not work the camera closes unexpectedly all the time (full wipe)
on cupcake its completely fine

some problems with xperia

I have the xperia for almost 10 months. I have the original UK rom. Some of my problems are:
1) Τhe phone is over heating, not only when i charge it, but during the day too. In addition to this, when i charge it after about 5-6 hours the battery is dead without using the phone at all!! Sometimes, when i take it in my hands and is hot(without having used it in the meanwhile) i have to put it in the FRIDGE to drop the temperature!
2) It stucks all the time! It seems like it has very bad response times, because when i use the keyboard(virtual & hardware) it stucks so that i cannot write not even an sms properly. This happens with all apps too.(i have to wait a lot before they start running)
3)I have installed all the apps in the storage card but still the storage memory decreases!! I deleted opera's history, cookies and cache, also tried the "clear temp" app, but the storage memory still goes down and i get the annoying message of insufficient memory, but i don't know what else to delete to free up memory.
4)When i pull off the headphones the icon it is still there, and if i have a call they cannot hear me, neather can i. It is really distrurbing.
5) the camera app takes way too long to open and usually the images that i take are foggy and bad quality.
So, PLEASE GUYS TELL ME WAHT TO DO!!! I JUST CAN'T STAND IT ANYMORE!! i feel that the 500 euros i gave didn't worth it, something that makes me reaaly mad!

1) I think put X1 in the FRIDGE is a big mistake. (At least what I know) If your phone is getting hot then you just put it in fridge, it will make dew inside the motherboard. So your X1 won't operate well.
2) Hardware keyboard in X1 is malfacturing. Many X1 keyboard active users complained it. About virtual kb is usually caused by third party application. Maybe for software issue, you may hardreset it, and install less applications. SESC will repair the Hard Kb issue.
3)As I know, not all of application installed to Storage Card means they only use the Storage Card. Sometimes, they also need to install some part of the application dll or bla bla bla to internal memory to make them run. And of course, the leave footage memory.
4&5)Hmmm, it may relate to point 1) about putting your X1 in fridge
My advice, 1st Hardreset (Don't forget backup important information: using Active Sync or PIM Backup), then if the problem still continues (since you have X1 with original SPL and ROM, bring it to SESC, hope they'll fix it)
Correct me if I am wrong.