HTC Touch Dual keypad w\ predictive txt? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Is there anyway I could use the touch dual keypad without xt9? I know the regedit does it, but mine won't show the keypad anymore and predictive text input won't work. I think it would be very useful for txting while driving....lol

i have the same problem as this him. can anyone answer me
I did search the forum and found this one without any answer...
Help me

I think the thread about Dutty's V2 & V3 Rom has a cab to remove xt9.
Edit:
Yup, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1774565&postcount=2
Not sure if this will work for you but it's worth a try.

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HTC Touch keyboard breaking autocorrect?

I'd like to use the HTC Touch keyboard on my Tilt for the times that I don't want to slide out the keyboard, but installing it seems to break the autocorrect feature when I am using the hardware keyboard. I see a few other people mentioning this in various threads, but I have yet to see any mention of a solution to this problem. I've tried all sorts of combinations of enabling and disabling autocorrect and various xt9 features, but the only way I can get autocorrect back is by uninstalling the HTC Touch keyboard.
By autocorrect, I'm referring to the ability to type in "il" and have it automatically change to "I'll"
Hi - did anybody find a solution to this? I've been searching high and low!
I'm in exactly the same boat - I love HTC keypad as it really helps me use the Kaiser one-handed, but I really miss the auto-correct on the hardware keyboard.
Is there a version of this SIP that doesn't break auto-correct?
I tried the HTC phonepad, but just couldn't get used to it after using the newer Keypad.
I would love to have a good T9 style SIP, but also have autocorrect on the hardware keyboard......anybody that can help?
Thanks!
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
6thElement said:
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
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I too found the same issues yet I loved the T9 input using the touch pad. I removed the xT9 one and installed this one instead.
You still get T9 and it works fast too. The internal keyboard auto correct also works with it too.
Is also made by HTC but can't remember where I found it. May have been on here before or recently.
I've been earching for a solution to this as well for months now. The autocomplete that XT9 disables is part of wm6 which it calls "word completion." When XT9 is installed via htc keypad, word completion ceases to work along with the feature that auto-fills contacts as you start to type a new SMS.
Thanks for posting that pkonepad cab, but unfortunately.that' the sip that radatia mentioned above. The buttons on the new HTC touch phonepad are bigger and easier to use.
What we really need is someone here that knows some programming to somehow alter the touch phonepad so that xt9 can be toggled on and off (without a registry change and restart), or better yet somehow change it to use a T9 like the phonepad's instead of xt9...
I have exact same problem. I love the htc virtual keyboard because became useful. However once I installed it, the hardware keyboard word completion no longer work I need that too because I use it.
I have another question, do anyone know if I can make the default windows word completion to auto select the top most word suggested list so I can just enter space bar to select it. Now I always have to use down key to select the word 1st. Not efficient.
Just wanted to bump this topic. There have got to be others out there who share our frustration... and someone who can put an end to it!
I've given up on the HTC Keypad, much as I like it and it making the device usable one-handed.
Have moved onto the PocketCM Keyboard as my preferred SIP just so that I can still keep word completion when using the hardware keyboard.
Hope that someone posts here if a solution is eventually found......
oh man!
I'm the opposite.. how I wish the hardware keyboard is not auto correct enabled when I use it.
I've tried dis-abling the auto correct etc.. dun seem to work..
now using Resco keyboard..
it's the next best thing, but kinda defeats the purpose of getting the tytn II in the first place.
Yes the touch keyboard has many issues when used on kaiser. i can't get autocomplete to work with the hardware keyboard either unfortunately.
I do know that "multiword completion" in the xt9 settings or whatever is a bad thing and causes other problems, so i uncheck that. But, still can't figure out how to get autocomplete to work.
I spent a lot of time searching and installing/uninstalling these things to try and find a perfect mix, no luck though. It's still QUITE usable for me, but i would like auto complete for hardware keyboard, though, i dont think i'd use it as i type realy fast anyways with it.
It's quite hard to justify buying a keyboard when we are able to install a free one that *almost* does what we want! pcmkeyboard with iphone buttons and XL touch skin is good, but i am realy starting to like xt9.
:-( i have this problem now and love the keyboard...

keypad app

Hello need some help.
just installed duttys latest rom
Mar 08 08]Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19199 UC RTM [User Guide in Post 2] X3 Variants
all working well apart from the fact I cant get touchkeyboard to work now.
does anyone have a keypad cab or app that will allow me to type messages used a keypad on screen.
I tried this one and no joy..http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-...oard-v1-0.html
i am also interested in this, i have been using SPB full screen keyboard for a whle now but it dosnt seem to react to be accurate as well as it can be. i am looking for an alternative to the slide out keyboard so i wouldnt need to use it all the time just to respond to a quick message....
screen shots would be nice
Look up PocketCM here
You know in the other forum I attached the touch keyboard and keypad to my post. I actually like the touchpal keyboard from cootek.com the best. I can type so fast on it I dont even use the hardware keyboard at all anymore.
http://cootek.com/intro.aspx
-McMex

Kaiser Slide Keyboard and XT9 Trouble

Hello folks, i have searched these forums and cant seem to find the answer i am looking for regarding xt9 and the kaiser.
I have a kaiser and have installed WM6.1 duttys march04 rom and 1.64.08.21 radio, with the HTC touch keyboard and keypad CAB.
The keyboard/keypad work excellently when using the device with one hand, and xt9 seems to pick up alot of words
BUT
when i am typing long texts/emails, and using the slide out hardware keyboard,
xt9 deletes characters and corrects words when i dont want it to, even when i click the xt9 symbol to turn it off, or even change it to a different input like Keyboard or Transcriber. very annoying/useless.
please help!!
thanks in advance
mcall_r
nobody got this same issue?
You might be looking for a way to disable xt9 then.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...w&q=Disable+XT9&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
no i dont want to disable xt9 totally i only want to disable it for the hardware keyboard, as it works great for the "touch" keyboard/keypad, and i hate using abc input.
Is this possible?
use the xda google search try these to search these words: Xt9 and hardware keyboard.
look at the fifth link. someone had the exact same problem as you and the solution was given. it was dutty's disable xt9
grandpareza said:
use the xda google search try these to search these words: Xt9 and hardware keyboard.
look at the fifth link. someone had the exact same problem as you and the solution was given. it was dutty's disable xt9
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that disbale uutility will screw up your keypad even worse. When it installs, it wipes out the image files used for the xt9 and then you won't be able to uninstall the touch keyboard/pad at all. I would recommend not using the disable utility.
Keep in mind that the Touch keyboad/pad was designed for the HTC Touch device, which doesn't have a slide out keyboard. Therefore the code was never meant to run on the Tilt, at least perfectly. I've tried every variation of the touch keyboad and they all don't work well for one reason or another....
i see.... well thanks anyway.
does anyone know of a GOOD alternative to the touch keypad app?
ive tried alot of others such as
FingerFriendlyFriends
PCMKeyboard
Phone Pad
Touchpal
but none of them are as good/easy to use.
Cheers
smittyofdhs said:
that disbale uutility will screw up your keypad even worse. When it installs, it wipes out the image files used for the xt9 and then you won't be able to uninstall the touch keyboard/pad at all. I would recommend not using the disable utility.
Keep in mind that the Touch keyboad/pad was designed for the HTC Touch device, which doesn't have a slide out keyboard. Therefore the code was never meant to run on the Tilt, at least perfectly. I've tried every variation of the touch keyboad and they all don't work well for one reason or another....
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hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....
that's about it as far as finger friendly SIPs go
grandpareza said:
hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....
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it = ???
it = Touch keyboard
it = xt9 disable utility
grandpareza said:
hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....
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yes please elaborate
"it" being the disable xt9, given that I have the touch keyboard installed.
it may be that you are using the touch keyboard that's already installed as part of the rom, in that case the disable utility probably works. I was using a cab based install of the touch keyboard, one that worked with my tilt fine except for the lost of auto-correct and no word suggestion anymore. When I installed the disable xt9 utlity, it wiped out the images used within the keyboard but still left xt9 installed but in a non-useable way. Then I had to manually remove everything, both the keyboard and the disable util manually because neither would uninstall now....

Open question for ex touch dual users

Hi guys,
This question is only for ex touch dual users.
1) Could you please tell me if you miss the physical keyboard? I know the virtual keyboard on the diamond can be set as "normal" numerical keyboard with xt9 but is it easy (and accurate) as the physical one to use??
2) I've read somewhere that the diamond was not vibrating when receiving an sms? Is it true??
Thank you for your feedback!
Answer to your first question, I did find the physical keyboard useful, only because it gave me the whole screen to look at, but using the keyboard itself the Diamond keyboard does a very good job. I have mine on Phone Keypad and i dont often make a mistake. I do admit that sometimes it can be frustrating, pushing the space bar or not pushing it when you should do, but I had the same using the Touch Dual hardware keyboard so the experience is on par.
Mmm, well mine seems ok when I get a text, altho i dont often set it to vibrate so will have a play today and see if i notice anything.
What i will say is that there is supposed to be a version of the Diamond coming out with a keypad. I dont mean the Touch Diamond Pro with the full qwerty keyboard i mean literally a Touch Dual keypad on the diamond. So far specs, information is all pretty hush hush so if you really miss the physical keypad and you think you will find it useful having one, maybe waiting would be the best option.
Hope this helps.
Regards
Tom
@ tom: Thank you for your answer.
I really like the physical keypad. It helps me writing text messages without having to "really" look at what I'm doing.
As you said, I think I'll wait some time hoping they will release a touch dual diamond...
Have a good day!
Anyone else could answer this question?? Would be nice to have more than one answer...
Sorry, me again! Ive had my phone on Vibrate since yesterday and not had any problems with it not vibrating when it should do.
Just thought I would let you know.
juju66 said:
Hi guys,
This question is only for ex touch dual users.
1) Could you please tell me if you miss the physical keyboard? I know the virtual keyboard on the diamond can be set as "normal" numerical keyboard with xt9 but is it easy (and accurate) as the physical one to use??
2) I've read somewhere that the diamond was not vibrating when receiving an sms? Is it true??
Thank you for your feedback!
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About the SMS - yes, it wasn't alerting (vibrate or sound) but there is a tweak - registry entry.
Works fine now

[CAB] Speeding up your Hardware keyboard Responce - Disable XT9

This is a cab that i used to ALWAYS use on my Kaiser to speed up the keyboard response of the device. Just tried it on my Fuze running ROMEOS and it definitely showed signs of improvement.
Install the CAB and soft-reset. Post your findings to this thread.
Makes this change:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
To Turn on again
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME
Hi, I've tried this registry hack on TouchHD with production firmware, and it certainly does disable XT9 and re-enable the native WM predictive text, *BUT* it makes my TouchHD slow to a crawl. The phone still works but extremely slow (like 2-3 second reponse delay) and also gets extremely hot behind the CPU. It's as though there is still some process in the background desperately making unanswered function calls to XT9. I've had to re-enable XT9 just to make my TouchHD responsive.
Can anyone point me to a CPU/process tool so I could see what it is taking up all those CPU cycles and generating all that heat when XT9 is disabled?
You tried that hack on the Touch HD? Does that even have a hardware keyboard? I don't think that it was supposed to work with that phone. (Maybe?)
yeah.. this would have no effect on sip inputs...
Well there is one problem i got is that when i install this tweak i cant type æøå on the hw keyboard:/ (norwegian keyboard) so is there away to use this tweak with norwegian keyboard support?
Still searching as well
I am also still searching for a way to get rid of the whole friggin' black et9 input bar, but keep my hardware keyboard to be responsive to the sym key, and the function key for typing euro sign and pound sign.
I hate the black input bar, especially since after you type first name in a text message address bar, and press space for a second name, it fills ion a name that's highlighted at the moment.
That's just so annoying...
Anyone any clue on how to deactivate et9, but keep the hardware keyboard fully functional?
Is it working for Raphael??
chetstriker said:
Is it working for Raphael??
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it is posted in the Raphael Software section. do you now think it's working?
I think it wirked.
I have jsut installed it on my kaiser and it seems to work very well, But i am also old school and running solace v1, works great thank you! no more.. t hanky ou...lol
just pade the registry change...
seems to be working well... barely any lag at all...
i've made this change VVV as well in hopes to fix this problem... it also helped a little
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
“InitialDelay”=dword: dec 775
“RepeatRate”=dword: dec 23
with this one tho seems a lot better.
After i uninstalled this "disable xT9" my manilla sms meny dissapeared... Anyone knows how to restore it?
this actually got my sip full qwerty keyboard stuck in number mode...
i just changed it back to et9ime.dll and it's back to normal...
too bad... seemed to work well for the hard keyboard.
Works well for me on my HTC Touch Pro.
Thanks heaps ... it's been bugging me for a while.
are u able to uninstall this if dont like?
are u able to uninstall this?
frankjr927 said:
are u able to uninstall this?
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When I uninstalled this my sms meny in manilla disapeared :S
Works great for me, I've been looking for something like this! Thank you very much!
just a lil warning...
Be careful installing this on touch pros/fuzes. It has been known to get the on screen keyboard stuck on numeric mode. Some ppl have gone upto a week or two without the problem showing up. Just a heads up.
just a lil warning...
Unfortunatley, I did not read this post prior to installing the xt9 disable software on my Fuze. I really enjoyed everything, such as the older style auto correct, and the list of suggested words. Now that juicy "Full QWERTY" is stuck in number mode. Is there a fix for this? Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Rick
I did the reg change to get the win mob predictive text... which worked until I did a soft reset. After that, my FULL QWERTY is also stuck in number mode.
Changed the reg back to original, and I got back my FULL QWERTY. No need to soft reset.
this helped me! HTC messaging with hardware keyboard on xperia is much faster now... but not windows messaging...
but I found this, which helped out with that too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4195099#post4195099
great!

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