Kaiser Slide Keyboard and XT9 Trouble - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hello folks, i have searched these forums and cant seem to find the answer i am looking for regarding xt9 and the kaiser.
I have a kaiser and have installed WM6.1 duttys march04 rom and 1.64.08.21 radio, with the HTC touch keyboard and keypad CAB.
The keyboard/keypad work excellently when using the device with one hand, and xt9 seems to pick up alot of words
BUT
when i am typing long texts/emails, and using the slide out hardware keyboard,
xt9 deletes characters and corrects words when i dont want it to, even when i click the xt9 symbol to turn it off, or even change it to a different input like Keyboard or Transcriber. very annoying/useless.
please help!!
thanks in advance
mcall_r

nobody got this same issue?

You might be looking for a way to disable xt9 then.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...w&q=Disable+XT9&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

no i dont want to disable xt9 totally i only want to disable it for the hardware keyboard, as it works great for the "touch" keyboard/keypad, and i hate using abc input.
Is this possible?

use the xda google search try these to search these words: Xt9 and hardware keyboard.
look at the fifth link. someone had the exact same problem as you and the solution was given. it was dutty's disable xt9

grandpareza said:
use the xda google search try these to search these words: Xt9 and hardware keyboard.
look at the fifth link. someone had the exact same problem as you and the solution was given. it was dutty's disable xt9
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that disbale uutility will screw up your keypad even worse. When it installs, it wipes out the image files used for the xt9 and then you won't be able to uninstall the touch keyboard/pad at all. I would recommend not using the disable utility.
Keep in mind that the Touch keyboad/pad was designed for the HTC Touch device, which doesn't have a slide out keyboard. Therefore the code was never meant to run on the Tilt, at least perfectly. I've tried every variation of the touch keyboad and they all don't work well for one reason or another....

i see.... well thanks anyway.
does anyone know of a GOOD alternative to the touch keypad app?
ive tried alot of others such as
FingerFriendlyFriends
PCMKeyboard
Phone Pad
Touchpal
but none of them are as good/easy to use.
Cheers

smittyofdhs said:
that disbale uutility will screw up your keypad even worse. When it installs, it wipes out the image files used for the xt9 and then you won't be able to uninstall the touch keyboard/pad at all. I would recommend not using the disable utility.
Keep in mind that the Touch keyboad/pad was designed for the HTC Touch device, which doesn't have a slide out keyboard. Therefore the code was never meant to run on the Tilt, at least perfectly. I've tried every variation of the touch keyboad and they all don't work well for one reason or another....
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hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....

that's about it as far as finger friendly SIPs go

grandpareza said:
hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....
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it = ???
it = Touch keyboard
it = xt9 disable utility

grandpareza said:
hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....
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yes please elaborate

"it" being the disable xt9, given that I have the touch keyboard installed.

it may be that you are using the touch keyboard that's already installed as part of the rom, in that case the disable utility probably works. I was using a cab based install of the touch keyboard, one that worked with my tilt fine except for the lost of auto-correct and no word suggestion anymore. When I installed the disable xt9 utlity, it wiped out the images used within the keyboard but still left xt9 installed but in a non-useable way. Then I had to manually remove everything, both the keyboard and the disable util manually because neither would uninstall now....

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HTC Touch keyboard breaking autocorrect?

I'd like to use the HTC Touch keyboard on my Tilt for the times that I don't want to slide out the keyboard, but installing it seems to break the autocorrect feature when I am using the hardware keyboard. I see a few other people mentioning this in various threads, but I have yet to see any mention of a solution to this problem. I've tried all sorts of combinations of enabling and disabling autocorrect and various xt9 features, but the only way I can get autocorrect back is by uninstalling the HTC Touch keyboard.
By autocorrect, I'm referring to the ability to type in "il" and have it automatically change to "I'll"
Hi - did anybody find a solution to this? I've been searching high and low!
I'm in exactly the same boat - I love HTC keypad as it really helps me use the Kaiser one-handed, but I really miss the auto-correct on the hardware keyboard.
Is there a version of this SIP that doesn't break auto-correct?
I tried the HTC phonepad, but just couldn't get used to it after using the newer Keypad.
I would love to have a good T9 style SIP, but also have autocorrect on the hardware keyboard......anybody that can help?
Thanks!
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
6thElement said:
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
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I too found the same issues yet I loved the T9 input using the touch pad. I removed the xT9 one and installed this one instead.
You still get T9 and it works fast too. The internal keyboard auto correct also works with it too.
Is also made by HTC but can't remember where I found it. May have been on here before or recently.
I've been earching for a solution to this as well for months now. The autocomplete that XT9 disables is part of wm6 which it calls "word completion." When XT9 is installed via htc keypad, word completion ceases to work along with the feature that auto-fills contacts as you start to type a new SMS.
Thanks for posting that pkonepad cab, but unfortunately.that' the sip that radatia mentioned above. The buttons on the new HTC touch phonepad are bigger and easier to use.
What we really need is someone here that knows some programming to somehow alter the touch phonepad so that xt9 can be toggled on and off (without a registry change and restart), or better yet somehow change it to use a T9 like the phonepad's instead of xt9...
I have exact same problem. I love the htc virtual keyboard because became useful. However once I installed it, the hardware keyboard word completion no longer work I need that too because I use it.
I have another question, do anyone know if I can make the default windows word completion to auto select the top most word suggested list so I can just enter space bar to select it. Now I always have to use down key to select the word 1st. Not efficient.
Just wanted to bump this topic. There have got to be others out there who share our frustration... and someone who can put an end to it!
I've given up on the HTC Keypad, much as I like it and it making the device usable one-handed.
Have moved onto the PocketCM Keyboard as my preferred SIP just so that I can still keep word completion when using the hardware keyboard.
Hope that someone posts here if a solution is eventually found......
oh man!
I'm the opposite.. how I wish the hardware keyboard is not auto correct enabled when I use it.
I've tried dis-abling the auto correct etc.. dun seem to work..
now using Resco keyboard..
it's the next best thing, but kinda defeats the purpose of getting the tytn II in the first place.
Yes the touch keyboard has many issues when used on kaiser. i can't get autocomplete to work with the hardware keyboard either unfortunately.
I do know that "multiword completion" in the xt9 settings or whatever is a bad thing and causes other problems, so i uncheck that. But, still can't figure out how to get autocomplete to work.
I spent a lot of time searching and installing/uninstalling these things to try and find a perfect mix, no luck though. It's still QUITE usable for me, but i would like auto complete for hardware keyboard, though, i dont think i'd use it as i type realy fast anyways with it.
It's quite hard to justify buying a keyboard when we are able to install a free one that *almost* does what we want! pcmkeyboard with iphone buttons and XL touch skin is good, but i am realy starting to like xt9.
:-( i have this problem now and love the keyboard...

Xt9 and hardware keyboard

is it possible to turn off annoying t9 only while using hardware keyboard? i cannot use FN+key combinations... Complete xt9 disabling renders touch dual keyboard useless...
i;ve been looking for teh same thing but couldnt find an answer, so ended up removing it, its such a good touch keyboard but messes up my hardware qwerty keys :/
GiZZy said:
i;ve been looking for teh same thing but couldnt find an answer, so ended up removing it, its such a good touch keyboard but messes up my hardware qwerty keys :/
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There is a cab some where, check the kaiser section, I think dutty made it.
found it on his web
http://duttythroy.lives-in.eu/
FTP -> Cabs -> duttythroy Disable xt9.cab

HTC Touch Keyboard/keypad on Kaiser

Hi,
After installing the HTC Touch keyboard/keypad on the Kaiser, the hardware keyboard does not still to work.
I do not wish to disable xT9 when using the Touch Keyboard but when switch to the normal keyboard, the hardware keyboard should work as per normal as well as the contact autocomplete.
Anyone can help on this?
Anyone can help me on this?
pmtan666 said:
Anyone can help me on this?
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where did u get the file? show me the link
also did you install IMSelector and SIPChange?
This is where I got the cab file from. (Cab Installer WWE version).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336587
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=55596&d=1193351352
After installing, the contact autocomplete feature seems to be disabled.
Also, the predictive text feature for both hardware keyboard and soft keyboard seems to be disabled as well instead the xT9 menu will appear.
Can this issue be resolved?
this cab disables XT9 in my dual, maybe you can give it a try..
Cheers..

Word Completion problem

I was wondering if anyone has the same problem as I do. I am using ROM 1.34.8831.1 WWE and my word completion and word correction does not work.
I have tried START/SETTINGS/INPUT/WORD COMPLETION. but it changes nothing.
Comments or suggestions please..
Thanks
I encountered the same problem (I prefer the standard MS keyboard). I tried registry tweaks but must have missed something because still didn't work.
Then I installed KaiserTweak and in there disabled XT9 support and since then everything works great.
But again, that's for the default keyboard, it did work without tweaking on the diamond keyboards.
Keyboard
dutch64 said:
I encountered the same problem (I prefer the standard MS keyboard). I tried registry tweaks but must have missed something because still didn't work.
Then I installed KaiserTweak and in there disabled XT9 support and since then everything works great.
But again, that's for the default keyboard, it did work without tweaking on the diamond keyboards.
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I am using the MS keyboard. I will try your other suggestion. Thx
update your ancient rom.
billybobjones said:
update your ancient rom.
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I am now using a modern ROM and it still does not work... any other suggestions
word completion with block recognizer
Hi
HTC in Australia) support clearly advise that word completion will not work on Touch Diamond when using block recognizer.
Is there anybody out there that can add this feature to the Touch Diamond - even if it is not available on other input methods?
Word completion does work for block recognizer, do as dutch64 mentioned.
Strange...i have exactly the oposite problem
i don't like word completion feature, and so i try all ways to disable it (from settings menu and from Advanc. conf. tool), but i only get it 100% disabled when i use Panosha ROMs ...

[CAB] Speeding up your Hardware keyboard Responce - Disable XT9

This is a cab that i used to ALWAYS use on my Kaiser to speed up the keyboard response of the device. Just tried it on my Fuze running ROMEOS and it definitely showed signs of improvement.
Install the CAB and soft-reset. Post your findings to this thread.
Makes this change:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
To Turn on again
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME
Hi, I've tried this registry hack on TouchHD with production firmware, and it certainly does disable XT9 and re-enable the native WM predictive text, *BUT* it makes my TouchHD slow to a crawl. The phone still works but extremely slow (like 2-3 second reponse delay) and also gets extremely hot behind the CPU. It's as though there is still some process in the background desperately making unanswered function calls to XT9. I've had to re-enable XT9 just to make my TouchHD responsive.
Can anyone point me to a CPU/process tool so I could see what it is taking up all those CPU cycles and generating all that heat when XT9 is disabled?
You tried that hack on the Touch HD? Does that even have a hardware keyboard? I don't think that it was supposed to work with that phone. (Maybe?)
yeah.. this would have no effect on sip inputs...
Well there is one problem i got is that when i install this tweak i cant type æøå on the hw keyboard:/ (norwegian keyboard) so is there away to use this tweak with norwegian keyboard support?
Still searching as well
I am also still searching for a way to get rid of the whole friggin' black et9 input bar, but keep my hardware keyboard to be responsive to the sym key, and the function key for typing euro sign and pound sign.
I hate the black input bar, especially since after you type first name in a text message address bar, and press space for a second name, it fills ion a name that's highlighted at the moment.
That's just so annoying...
Anyone any clue on how to deactivate et9, but keep the hardware keyboard fully functional?
Is it working for Raphael??
chetstriker said:
Is it working for Raphael??
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it is posted in the Raphael Software section. do you now think it's working?
I think it wirked.
I have jsut installed it on my kaiser and it seems to work very well, But i am also old school and running solace v1, works great thank you! no more.. t hanky ou...lol
just pade the registry change...
seems to be working well... barely any lag at all...
i've made this change VVV as well in hopes to fix this problem... it also helped a little
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
“InitialDelay”=dword: dec 775
“RepeatRate”=dword: dec 23
with this one tho seems a lot better.
After i uninstalled this "disable xT9" my manilla sms meny dissapeared... Anyone knows how to restore it?
this actually got my sip full qwerty keyboard stuck in number mode...
i just changed it back to et9ime.dll and it's back to normal...
too bad... seemed to work well for the hard keyboard.
Works well for me on my HTC Touch Pro.
Thanks heaps ... it's been bugging me for a while.
are u able to uninstall this if dont like?
are u able to uninstall this?
frankjr927 said:
are u able to uninstall this?
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When I uninstalled this my sms meny in manilla disapeared :S
Works great for me, I've been looking for something like this! Thank you very much!
just a lil warning...
Be careful installing this on touch pros/fuzes. It has been known to get the on screen keyboard stuck on numeric mode. Some ppl have gone upto a week or two without the problem showing up. Just a heads up.
just a lil warning...
Unfortunatley, I did not read this post prior to installing the xt9 disable software on my Fuze. I really enjoyed everything, such as the older style auto correct, and the list of suggested words. Now that juicy "Full QWERTY" is stuck in number mode. Is there a fix for this? Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Rick
I did the reg change to get the win mob predictive text... which worked until I did a soft reset. After that, my FULL QWERTY is also stuck in number mode.
Changed the reg back to original, and I got back my FULL QWERTY. No need to soft reset.
this helped me! HTC messaging with hardware keyboard on xperia is much faster now... but not windows messaging...
but I found this, which helped out with that too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4195099#post4195099
great!

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