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Kaiser Slide Keyboard and XT9 Trouble

Hello folks, i have searched these forums and cant seem to find the answer i am looking for regarding xt9 and the kaiser.
I have a kaiser and have installed WM6.1 duttys march04 rom and 1.64.08.21 radio, with the HTC touch keyboard and keypad CAB.
The keyboard/keypad work excellently when using the device with one hand, and xt9 seems to pick up alot of words
BUT
when i am typing long texts/emails, and using the slide out hardware keyboard,
xt9 deletes characters and corrects words when i dont want it to, even when i click the xt9 symbol to turn it off, or even change it to a different input like Keyboard or Transcriber. very annoying/useless.
please help!!
thanks in advance
mcall_r

nobody got this same issue?

You might be looking for a way to disable xt9 then.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...w&q=Disable+XT9&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

no i dont want to disable xt9 totally i only want to disable it for the hardware keyboard, as it works great for the "touch" keyboard/keypad, and i hate using abc input.
Is this possible?

use the xda google search try these to search these words: Xt9 and hardware keyboard.
look at the fifth link. someone had the exact same problem as you and the solution was given. it was dutty's disable xt9

grandpareza said:
use the xda google search try these to search these words: Xt9 and hardware keyboard.
look at the fifth link. someone had the exact same problem as you and the solution was given. it was dutty's disable xt9
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that disbale uutility will screw up your keypad even worse. When it installs, it wipes out the image files used for the xt9 and then you won't be able to uninstall the touch keyboard/pad at all. I would recommend not using the disable utility.
Keep in mind that the Touch keyboad/pad was designed for the HTC Touch device, which doesn't have a slide out keyboard. Therefore the code was never meant to run on the Tilt, at least perfectly. I've tried every variation of the touch keyboad and they all don't work well for one reason or another....

i see.... well thanks anyway.
does anyone know of a GOOD alternative to the touch keypad app?
ive tried alot of others such as
FingerFriendlyFriends
PCMKeyboard
Phone Pad
Touchpal
but none of them are as good/easy to use.
Cheers

smittyofdhs said:
that disbale uutility will screw up your keypad even worse. When it installs, it wipes out the image files used for the xt9 and then you won't be able to uninstall the touch keyboard/pad at all. I would recommend not using the disable utility.
Keep in mind that the Touch keyboad/pad was designed for the HTC Touch device, which doesn't have a slide out keyboard. Therefore the code was never meant to run on the Tilt, at least perfectly. I've tried every variation of the touch keyboad and they all don't work well for one reason or another....
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hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....

that's about it as far as finger friendly SIPs go

grandpareza said:
hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....
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it = ???
it = Touch keyboard
it = xt9 disable utility

grandpareza said:
hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....
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yes please elaborate

"it" being the disable xt9, given that I have the touch keyboard installed.

it may be that you are using the touch keyboard that's already installed as part of the rom, in that case the disable utility probably works. I was using a cab based install of the touch keyboard, one that worked with my tilt fine except for the lost of auto-correct and no word suggestion anymore. When I installed the disable xt9 utlity, it wiped out the images used within the keyboard but still left xt9 installed but in a non-useable way. Then I had to manually remove everything, both the keyboard and the disable util manually because neither would uninstall now....

Type on phone and compact keyboard display numbers

Bug on my virtual phone keyboard and compact qwerty keyboard : impossible to type letters. Only numbers are displayed. My full qwerty keyboard works.
I had install and uninstall many keyboard like PCM, touchpal etc.
Thanks a lot !
Fafou

My case is worst then yours . All three HTC keyboards are numerics only. But the regular WM SIPs works fine.
Anyone got an answer to that?

Have you tried a different rom? might help...

disable the " Turn on one touch" option and it works again.
Got the same bug, and the only fix is to disable this option.
But you can do a soft reset and enable this option again and it should work normal again.
Havent figued out the reason of this bug yet, but i think it has something to do with editing the contacts.
btw, which hardspl version do you use?

slicker said:
Have you tried a different rom? might help...
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I think its a bug on the 1.93 wwe roms, got it on every wwe rom except swifts 5.0. But 5.6 got this bug too.

I get the same problem if i have PCM player keyboard installed.
uninstalled it and a reboot fixes it... but i love PCM keyboard.
I'm on 1.37 Nor btw.

I'm using stock 1.93 ROM. full QWERTY was working for 2 week... till 2 days ago. I have reverse all the tweaks I made for the pass few days and it didn't help.
I think I'll try install a PCM trial and see if that helps.
Keyboard now working is a big issue. I hope HTC will publish a hotfix soon.

Installed PCM... all the HTC SIP still not functioning. But the hell with them... I like PCM better now.

Hope some one finds a fix. I want both PCM keyboard and the orignal ones.

Lobo13 said:
I have found a solution. Change this in the registry:
Code:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409
"Layout Text"="eT9 IME"
"Ime File"="\windows\eT9ime.dll"
HKCR\CLSID\{73AB106C-A726-484b-B610-BE3E1CF39821}
"(Default)"="XT9"
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Works after a reboot on diamond :)
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Diamond Keyboard problem

Hi,
I don't know what I've done, but when I'd like to write some message, or whatever, the original keyboard (full qwerty, or compact qwerty) keyboard starts up with the symbol pad and it's not possible to switch it back to alphanumeric mode. The only way is to invoke keyboard switch menu and select the same keyboard again. then it works as usual. Does anybody have the same problem?
as I said, I don't know, what I've done, or installed, bud I think, I've installed Advanced config 3.0 recently

I have the same problem... I also don't know what is wrong.
I also tried to disabled T9 with some tricks... that's all...
Some suggestions??
Thnx

Since yesterday I also have a problem with my HTC keyboards.
All 3 options, Qwerty, Compact Qwerty and the phonepad only gives me numbers.
I have tried all the settings.
It does not make a diverence if i turn of T9.
On the keyboard i can see the nummbers and the letters.
This is very irritating, can somebody please help?
Or is there an original cab version, al the cabs i can find are Qvga.
I have tried the Touch keyboard and it gives letters in stead of numbers, but its Qvga.
Thanks

Same problem here on the CDMA Diamond, I tried two different ROMs already the Sprint Stock ROM and a Telus Custom Juicy's 2.0 ROM. I can't use it at all and I hate doing a Hard Reset. Someone shed some light on this please.

Same problem here, have tried everything

Well I solved the problem by uninstalling PCM Keyboard... Too bad, I really liked it
Does anybody know if it's possible to run pcm keyboard without having this issue on the diamond?

since day 1 my keyboard did not show predict text ? anyone can help me ?

I had the same problem , it appeared from nowhere ..
After also trying different tricks , i solved the problem using Resco Keyboard
Pro ... It also responds much better to my taste with the touch screen
interface of the diamond.

I have had this problem on the Touch Pro too having used PCM keyboard.
Unistalled it and all back to normal.
Pity.

Same here, alas PCM's copy & paste was cool, but not if I can't use the other keyboards...

chris2.0 said:
Same here, alas PCM's copy & paste was cool, but not if I can't use the other keyboards...
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How do you use copy & paste with PCM? Which version of PCM keyboard are you using?

[CAB] Speeding up your Hardware keyboard Responce - Disable XT9

This is a cab that i used to ALWAYS use on my Kaiser to speed up the keyboard response of the device. Just tried it on my Fuze running ROMEOS and it definitely showed signs of improvement.
Install the CAB and soft-reset. Post your findings to this thread.
Makes this change:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
To Turn on again
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME

Hi, I've tried this registry hack on TouchHD with production firmware, and it certainly does disable XT9 and re-enable the native WM predictive text, *BUT* it makes my TouchHD slow to a crawl. The phone still works but extremely slow (like 2-3 second reponse delay) and also gets extremely hot behind the CPU. It's as though there is still some process in the background desperately making unanswered function calls to XT9. I've had to re-enable XT9 just to make my TouchHD responsive.
Can anyone point me to a CPU/process tool so I could see what it is taking up all those CPU cycles and generating all that heat when XT9 is disabled?

You tried that hack on the Touch HD? Does that even have a hardware keyboard? I don't think that it was supposed to work with that phone. (Maybe?)

yeah.. this would have no effect on sip inputs...

Well there is one problem i got is that when i install this tweak i cant type æøå on the hw keyboard:/ (norwegian keyboard) so is there away to use this tweak with norwegian keyboard support?

Still searching as well
I am also still searching for a way to get rid of the whole friggin' black et9 input bar, but keep my hardware keyboard to be responsive to the sym key, and the function key for typing euro sign and pound sign.
I hate the black input bar, especially since after you type first name in a text message address bar, and press space for a second name, it fills ion a name that's highlighted at the moment.
That's just so annoying...
Anyone any clue on how to deactivate et9, but keep the hardware keyboard fully functional?

Is it working for Raphael??

chetstriker said:
Is it working for Raphael??
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it is posted in the Raphael Software section. do you now think it's working?

I think it wirked.
I have jsut installed it on my kaiser and it seems to work very well, But i am also old school and running solace v1, works great thank you! no more.. t hanky ou...lol

just pade the registry change...
seems to be working well... barely any lag at all...
i've made this change VVV as well in hopes to fix this problem... it also helped a little
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
“InitialDelay”=dword: dec 775
“RepeatRate”=dword: dec 23
with this one tho seems a lot better.

After i uninstalled this "disable xT9" my manilla sms meny dissapeared... Anyone knows how to restore it?

this actually got my sip full qwerty keyboard stuck in number mode...
i just changed it back to et9ime.dll and it's back to normal...
too bad... seemed to work well for the hard keyboard.

Works well for me on my HTC Touch Pro.
Thanks heaps ... it's been bugging me for a while.

are u able to uninstall this if dont like?
are u able to uninstall this?

frankjr927 said:
are u able to uninstall this?
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When I uninstalled this my sms meny in manilla disapeared :S

Works great for me, I've been looking for something like this! Thank you very much!

just a lil warning...
Be careful installing this on touch pros/fuzes. It has been known to get the on screen keyboard stuck on numeric mode. Some ppl have gone upto a week or two without the problem showing up. Just a heads up.

just a lil warning...
Unfortunatley, I did not read this post prior to installing the xt9 disable software on my Fuze. I really enjoyed everything, such as the older style auto correct, and the list of suggested words. Now that juicy "Full QWERTY" is stuck in number mode. Is there a fix for this? Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Rick

I did the reg change to get the win mob predictive text... which worked until I did a soft reset. After that, my FULL QWERTY is also stuck in number mode.
Changed the reg back to original, and I got back my FULL QWERTY. No need to soft reset.

this helped me! HTC messaging with hardware keyboard on xperia is much faster now... but not windows messaging...
but I found this, which helped out with that too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4195099#post4195099
great!

HELP: ENABLING Block Recognizer in input menu?

Hi all,
just got my topaz and flashed a cooked ROM (wm 6.5 LP EVO V-ITA to be precise).
i really need to enable block-letter recognising, after years practising i cannot live without...
afer some search, i have tried editing this
For letter recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
For block recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
but apparently is not working
can somebody pls help me?
thks
GG

gnarolibero said:
Hi all,
just got my topaz and flashed a cooked ROM (wm 6.5 LP EVO V-ITA to be precise).
i really need to enable block-letter recognising, after years practising i cannot live without...
afer some search, i have tried editing this
For letter recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
For block recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
but apparently is not working
can somebody pls help me?
thks
GG
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I have a cab (thanks to !Aman!). You can get block recog.cab from my Topaz File Mirror.

thks but is not working...
anybody knows the proper registry tweak?
thanks in advance
gg
"]!Aman![/URL]). You can get block recog.cab from my Topaz File Mirror.[/QUOTE]

gnarolibero said:
thks but is not working...
anybody knows the proper registry tweak?
thanks in advance
gg
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strange it works for me on WM 6.1
what ROM are you using it for?

BeeGee_Tokyo said:
strange it works for me on WM 6.1
what ROM are you using it for?
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I'm trying to get the Block recognizer too.
It seems to me that Microsoft blocked it in WM 6.5

EzInput 2.1 doesnt support old SIP methods like block recongniser, thats why it doesnt work for you guys.

!Aman! said:
EzInput 2.1 doesn't support old SIP methods like block recognizer, that's why it doesn't work for you guys.
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Hey Aman, but at Microsoft WebPage, they talk about the input methods for WM 6.5 and Block/Letter Recognize are there !!!!!!!
I though that the nes versions of cooked ROM's would be able to have then too.

Finally working BR and LR
Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo
So sorry for keeping you guys waiting. The following are the steps I took based on my memory.
To enable the Letter Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
To enable the Block Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
You will notice that this will not make the SIP appear, for example, in your SMS application. However, it should appear in the pulldown menu at Start->Settings->Personal->Input. Now, if you try to set the Letter Recognizer as default, thinking that it will appear in SMS application, it doesn't. For some reason, it will always default back to the Touch Input (or EzInput) SIP.
So, the next step is to make the Letter Recognizer SIP the default. To do that, check the value at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP). Replace that with
"42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9" (for Letter Recognizer SIP).
WARNING -- very very important to make sure the above is entered correctly. According to some posts elsewhere, a non existent SIP can crash your device. You might want to confirm if you have the Letter Recognizer SIP by searching for the msim.dll file. If it exists, I suppose it is probably safe.
After soft reset (power on/off device), you should now see the Letter Recognizer in your SMS application. However, you will also notice it doesn't work properly. For eg, the Capital Letter (left panel) doesn't work, there is this irritating word suggestions thing that keep popping up, it is quite slow and quite inaccurate, the Help doesn't work well.
To resolve these problems, set the following to 1:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\IsOtherSip
Do a soft reset and the problems should disappear and you have a good Letter Recognizer to work with (even with fingernail), save for the following problems:
a. Sometimes response may not be very good. Can be quite slow especially if you are entering letters like "i", "r". Maybe this is because of the screen sensitivity.
b. If you click on the little triangle and want to switch to the Touch Input SIP, you can. But the problem is that you can't switch back to the Letter Recognizer anymore unless you do a soft reset. I guess this is OK if you use Letter Recognizer exclusively, but if you want the Chinese Handwriting feature in Touch Input (which is pretty good IMO), then it is not good.
Sorry for the long post. Thought it is better to also share my observations. I am a newbie with registry thing, so I prefer to do step by step and hence many soft resets. If you are gungho enough, just do the steps in bold followed by a soft reset. Hope it works for all you guys.
Note -- if you don't feel safe doing the registry changes, an alternative is to use the Touch Input SIP but set the waiting time to the shortest possible which will reduce the delay. But it is still very irritating to use IMHO.
Cheers

Just to remember all that the solution I described at the previous post is not mine and was Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo. So, many thnaks to him for the great solution !!!!!!

Info for the ones that doesnt have en version
Hi
Info to all of you with other language then english.
The file msim.dll are country specific, in sweden its called msimsw.dll so i guess you will be able to find your version if you search the registry for msmi and then you will find a msmiXX.dll that is the correct one for your country.
I hade to add the info for {42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9} and {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} because it was missing info so it's not enought to only change the IsSipInputMethod to 1.
I have attached the files i used, but plz realise that this one is for swedish a version. You can edit the files with notepad to adress the localized .dll file for your country.
After this to be able to use the input methods i did what nicksalgado said and change
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
to {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} to use Block recognizer as default im
/SebulbaSe

Hi
I have the "RUU_Topaz_S_HTC_SPA_2.16.412.1_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_Ship", and has the same problem that you describe. I use the HTC Pure from AT&T, and in the original AT&T ROM the Block Recognizer work it just fine. Is there a way to captura a cab to use to solve this problem from the original AT&T Rom?? Regards

OK The tweak worked for me. Now I have got rid of that annoying keyboard. Anyway I would like to have the option of choosing the keyboard in a drop down list like before the rom update. Now the block recognizer is the one and only input method.

yulbeast said:
OK The tweak worked for me. Now I have got rid of that annoying keyboard. Anyway I would like to have the option of choosing the keyboard in a drop down list like before the rom update. Now the block recognizer is the one and only input method.
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Use this app to choose your SIP.

Activation of the Letter/Block Recognizer cookbook
Hi all
thanks, it works perfectly on my Topaz.
How to desactivate properly and completely block recognizer (register and so on) of my Topaz now, because I want tu use the SPB Back Up of my Topaz on my Touch2..and I am sure I will Have some problems with this change..?
Thanks

It's not a good idea to use a full backup file from one device to a different one.