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HTC Touch keyboard breaking autocorrect?

I'd like to use the HTC Touch keyboard on my Tilt for the times that I don't want to slide out the keyboard, but installing it seems to break the autocorrect feature when I am using the hardware keyboard. I see a few other people mentioning this in various threads, but I have yet to see any mention of a solution to this problem. I've tried all sorts of combinations of enabling and disabling autocorrect and various xt9 features, but the only way I can get autocorrect back is by uninstalling the HTC Touch keyboard.
By autocorrect, I'm referring to the ability to type in "il" and have it automatically change to "I'll"

Hi - did anybody find a solution to this? I've been searching high and low!
I'm in exactly the same boat - I love HTC keypad as it really helps me use the Kaiser one-handed, but I really miss the auto-correct on the hardware keyboard.
Is there a version of this SIP that doesn't break auto-correct?
I tried the HTC phonepad, but just couldn't get used to it after using the newer Keypad.
I would love to have a good T9 style SIP, but also have autocorrect on the hardware keyboard......anybody that can help?
Thanks!

I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.

6thElement said:
I'd noticed that too, quite annoying as the touch keypad is so useful.
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I too found the same issues yet I loved the T9 input using the touch pad. I removed the xT9 one and installed this one instead.
You still get T9 and it works fast too. The internal keyboard auto correct also works with it too.
Is also made by HTC but can't remember where I found it. May have been on here before or recently.

I've been earching for a solution to this as well for months now. The autocomplete that XT9 disables is part of wm6 which it calls "word completion." When XT9 is installed via htc keypad, word completion ceases to work along with the feature that auto-fills contacts as you start to type a new SMS.
Thanks for posting that pkonepad cab, but unfortunately.that' the sip that radatia mentioned above. The buttons on the new HTC touch phonepad are bigger and easier to use.
What we really need is someone here that knows some programming to somehow alter the touch phonepad so that xt9 can be toggled on and off (without a registry change and restart), or better yet somehow change it to use a T9 like the phonepad's instead of xt9...

I have exact same problem. I love the htc virtual keyboard because became useful. However once I installed it, the hardware keyboard word completion no longer work I need that too because I use it.
I have another question, do anyone know if I can make the default windows word completion to auto select the top most word suggested list so I can just enter space bar to select it. Now I always have to use down key to select the word 1st. Not efficient.

Just wanted to bump this topic. There have got to be others out there who share our frustration... and someone who can put an end to it!

I've given up on the HTC Keypad, much as I like it and it making the device usable one-handed.
Have moved onto the PocketCM Keyboard as my preferred SIP just so that I can still keep word completion when using the hardware keyboard.
Hope that someone posts here if a solution is eventually found......

oh man!
I'm the opposite.. how I wish the hardware keyboard is not auto correct enabled when I use it.
I've tried dis-abling the auto correct etc.. dun seem to work..
now using Resco keyboard..
it's the next best thing, but kinda defeats the purpose of getting the tytn II in the first place.

Yes the touch keyboard has many issues when used on kaiser. i can't get autocomplete to work with the hardware keyboard either unfortunately.
I do know that "multiword completion" in the xt9 settings or whatever is a bad thing and causes other problems, so i uncheck that. But, still can't figure out how to get autocomplete to work.
I spent a lot of time searching and installing/uninstalling these things to try and find a perfect mix, no luck though. It's still QUITE usable for me, but i would like auto complete for hardware keyboard, though, i dont think i'd use it as i type realy fast anyways with it.
It's quite hard to justify buying a keyboard when we are able to install a free one that *almost* does what we want! pcmkeyboard with iphone buttons and XL touch skin is good, but i am realy starting to like xt9.

:-( i have this problem now and love the keyboard...

Kaiser Slide Keyboard and XT9 Trouble

Hello folks, i have searched these forums and cant seem to find the answer i am looking for regarding xt9 and the kaiser.
I have a kaiser and have installed WM6.1 duttys march04 rom and 1.64.08.21 radio, with the HTC touch keyboard and keypad CAB.
The keyboard/keypad work excellently when using the device with one hand, and xt9 seems to pick up alot of words
BUT
when i am typing long texts/emails, and using the slide out hardware keyboard,
xt9 deletes characters and corrects words when i dont want it to, even when i click the xt9 symbol to turn it off, or even change it to a different input like Keyboard or Transcriber. very annoying/useless.
please help!!
thanks in advance
mcall_r

nobody got this same issue?

You might be looking for a way to disable xt9 then.
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...w&q=Disable+XT9&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

no i dont want to disable xt9 totally i only want to disable it for the hardware keyboard, as it works great for the "touch" keyboard/keypad, and i hate using abc input.
Is this possible?

use the xda google search try these to search these words: Xt9 and hardware keyboard.
look at the fifth link. someone had the exact same problem as you and the solution was given. it was dutty's disable xt9

grandpareza said:
use the xda google search try these to search these words: Xt9 and hardware keyboard.
look at the fifth link. someone had the exact same problem as you and the solution was given. it was dutty's disable xt9
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that disbale uutility will screw up your keypad even worse. When it installs, it wipes out the image files used for the xt9 and then you won't be able to uninstall the touch keyboard/pad at all. I would recommend not using the disable utility.
Keep in mind that the Touch keyboad/pad was designed for the HTC Touch device, which doesn't have a slide out keyboard. Therefore the code was never meant to run on the Tilt, at least perfectly. I've tried every variation of the touch keyboad and they all don't work well for one reason or another....

i see.... well thanks anyway.
does anyone know of a GOOD alternative to the touch keypad app?
ive tried alot of others such as
FingerFriendlyFriends
PCMKeyboard
Phone Pad
Touchpal
but none of them are as good/easy to use.
Cheers

smittyofdhs said:
that disbale uutility will screw up your keypad even worse. When it installs, it wipes out the image files used for the xt9 and then you won't be able to uninstall the touch keyboard/pad at all. I would recommend not using the disable utility.
Keep in mind that the Touch keyboad/pad was designed for the HTC Touch device, which doesn't have a slide out keyboard. Therefore the code was never meant to run on the Tilt, at least perfectly. I've tried every variation of the touch keyboad and they all don't work well for one reason or another....
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hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....

that's about it as far as finger friendly SIPs go

grandpareza said:
hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....
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it = ???
it = Touch keyboard
it = xt9 disable utility

grandpareza said:
hmm, i've had it installed and it working quite fine....
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yes please elaborate

"it" being the disable xt9, given that I have the touch keyboard installed.

it may be that you are using the touch keyboard that's already installed as part of the rom, in that case the disable utility probably works. I was using a cab based install of the touch keyboard, one that worked with my tilt fine except for the lost of auto-correct and no word suggestion anymore. When I installed the disable xt9 utlity, it wiped out the images used within the keyboard but still left xt9 installed but in a non-useable way. Then I had to manually remove everything, both the keyboard and the disable util manually because neither would uninstall now....

Diamond Keyboard problem

Hi,
I don't know what I've done, but when I'd like to write some message, or whatever, the original keyboard (full qwerty, or compact qwerty) keyboard starts up with the symbol pad and it's not possible to switch it back to alphanumeric mode. The only way is to invoke keyboard switch menu and select the same keyboard again. then it works as usual. Does anybody have the same problem?
as I said, I don't know, what I've done, or installed, bud I think, I've installed Advanced config 3.0 recently

I have the same problem... I also don't know what is wrong.
I also tried to disabled T9 with some tricks... that's all...
Some suggestions??
Thnx

Since yesterday I also have a problem with my HTC keyboards.
All 3 options, Qwerty, Compact Qwerty and the phonepad only gives me numbers.
I have tried all the settings.
It does not make a diverence if i turn of T9.
On the keyboard i can see the nummbers and the letters.
This is very irritating, can somebody please help?
Or is there an original cab version, al the cabs i can find are Qvga.
I have tried the Touch keyboard and it gives letters in stead of numbers, but its Qvga.
Thanks

Same problem here on the CDMA Diamond, I tried two different ROMs already the Sprint Stock ROM and a Telus Custom Juicy's 2.0 ROM. I can't use it at all and I hate doing a Hard Reset. Someone shed some light on this please.

Same problem here, have tried everything

Well I solved the problem by uninstalling PCM Keyboard... Too bad, I really liked it
Does anybody know if it's possible to run pcm keyboard without having this issue on the diamond?

since day 1 my keyboard did not show predict text ? anyone can help me ?

I had the same problem , it appeared from nowhere ..
After also trying different tricks , i solved the problem using Resco Keyboard
Pro ... It also responds much better to my taste with the touch screen
interface of the diamond.

I have had this problem on the Touch Pro too having used PCM keyboard.
Unistalled it and all back to normal.
Pity.

Same here, alas PCM's copy & paste was cool, but not if I can't use the other keyboards...

chris2.0 said:
Same here, alas PCM's copy & paste was cool, but not if I can't use the other keyboards...
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How do you use copy & paste with PCM? Which version of PCM keyboard are you using?

Butler - new features

Hi there,
I just picket up the code of butlef app made by siggie1970
Butler - Using capacitive area as stroke launcher and many more features
Original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464611
I decide to put some new features like layout change on keyboard slide out. It is useful for stoping SIP poping out. You can point to nullkb or any other layout.
Setings available in registry by any registry editor or by AdvancedConfig (configuration file and only Butler section for config file below)
New features added:
1. Feature lets you to set keyboard layout on keyboard slide in/out.
defautl values for IN - Full Qwerty, for OUT - nullKB. Configurable via registry keys:
EnableSIPChangerKbd
KbdInSIP
KbdOutSIP
2. (Butler1.2) After slide in (in my Rom) some services or apps ?? sets back the Compact layout. So double check added to butler - if after slide in 2sec keyboard was changed to something else but not the KbdInSIP, butler sets it again, otherwise no action performed.

that's more like it! I'll check it out after my ROM release, I'm currently building it right now

Thanks linuxis,
I'll test the new slide function. Wondering what wil happen happen when the keyboard is slid out and I pull my stylus out
I'll also let you know if the errors are still there if there is no HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles key and value like Noonski pointed out. Might wanna include the settings in the cab.
Cheers,
/Cacti

le_cactus said:
Thanks linuxis,
I'll test the new slide function. Wondering what wil happen happen when the keyboard is slid out and I pull my stylus out
I'll also let you know if the errors are still there if there is no HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles key and value like Noonski pointed out. Might wanna include the settings in the cab.
Cheers,
/Cacti
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Good idea about "HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles" Next release...

i have the old one
does this one let you use both sip change from stylus and keyboard? cause that was pretty much the one missing feature or is it just keyboard now?
and if i install this cab will i gotta redo all the links and such. aaand is there any settings or same reg edits only?

lbhocky19 said:
i have the old one
does this one let you use both sip change from stylus and keyboard? cause that was pretty much the one missing feature or is it just keyboard now?
and if i install this cab will i gotta redo all the links and such. aaand is there any settings or same reg edits only?
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Yes, it lets you to change both. Separate registry keys for configuration.
No setings - you can use AdvancedConfig or registry editor. I thing that setings
is not used often and application would be bigger and more complex. So no plans for setings.
After install it will overwrite registry setings. If you want to keep old ones - save.

i had added the settings into advanced config for the old version
are you able to see the new feature of keyboard out sip setting in there? i only see the old settings so far
(and what is the number letter code for nullkb? thanks) im an idiot i searched around the interweb finally got the code then went to edit the setting and realized it was arleady set to nullkb blah but great job with the update coudlnt be happier

I had tried to use Butler with NATF ver 4.1 and it frooze the phone at the reboot screen. I had to do a hard reset, do you know if this version has the same issue?

Yup it does on certain roms. I have bo idea why some roms do and some roms dont have the problem.
Advice would still be to always make a full backup of your rom before installing this program!
Cheers,
Cacti

le_cactus said:
Yup it does on certain roms. I have bo idea why some roms do and some roms dont have the problem.
Advice would still be to always make a full backup of your rom before installing this program!
Cheers,
Cacti
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No idea also. Mine device with ROMeOS 1.51 works fine.
One slite issue - if butler was initialised in portrait mode after slide out/int keyboar changes to one you've configured, but after few seconds it changes to compact qwerty .... if you initialize with keyboard slide out/in keyboard changes to what you've configured and stays (as it should be).
I've investigated that issue shortly, so no idea where is the issue. But I will.
It seems that not the butler changes to the compact kdb.
Does anyone has the same ??

linuxis said:
No idea also. Mine device with ROMeOS 1.51 works fine.
One slite issue - if butler was initialised in portrait mode after slide out/int keyboar changes to one you've configured, but after few seconds it changes to compact qwerty .... if you initialize with keyboard slide out/in keyboard changes to what you've configured and stays (as it should be).
I've investigated that issue shortly, so no idea where is the issue. But I will.
It seems that not the butler changes to the compact kdb.
Does anyone has the same ??
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linuxis, I was checking the code before maybe you could disable setting of SIP on initialization? On the old code, I think it's on Butlerlib.cpp line 862 to 878.

pfcsabre said:
linuxis, I was checking the code before maybe you could disable setting of SIP on initialization? On the old code, I think it's on Butlerlib.cpp line 862 to 878.
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Good idea, thanks. I'll try that also

linuxis said:
Good idea, thanks. I'll try that also
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Let me know if that works because I don't see the point of having the SIP initialized on startup in the code-- Butler will be detecting the change of stylus in/out (or in your case slide-in/slide-out) anyway when the main thread starts (correct me if I'm wrong about this )

Which ROMs work
Firstly - loving Butler, it's an excellent addition to the phone and if HTC have half a brain it'll be in the next standard ROM released!
Is there any chance we could post up which ROMs work with Butler and which don't? Just thinking it'll save people some time hard resetting and setting up their phones again if they're on a non-working ROM.
Qsqa's PROven ROM 2.1 - Working fine
At0mAng V4.0 - Shows keyboard during boot up, but works fine after that
Qsqa's PROven ROM 2.2 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
Elite RC3 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
Anyone care to chip in their experiences?

PDAVIET V12 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
PDAVIET V13 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
DA_G Kitchen ROMS - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing (at least the ones I cooked)
Off topic, with a combination of SlideActions & KforTouchPro (and butler for the null keyboard) I now have my SIP's and keyboard working like the should. XT9 when needed, and MS$ driver when the keyboard is slide out. So now I can actualy use the keyboard in iGO8 en Ctrix clients!
Thanks!
Cheers
Cacti

Confused Stu said:
Firstly - loving Butler, it's an excellent addition to the phone and if HTC have half a brain it'll be in the next standard ROM released!
Is there any chance we could post up which ROMs work with Butler and which don't? Just thinking it'll save people some time hard resetting and setting up their phones again if they're on a non-working ROM.
Qsqa's PROven ROM 2.1 - Working fine
At0mAng V4.0 - Shows keyboard during boot up, but works fine after that
Qsqa's PROven ROM 2.2 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
Elite RC3 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
Anyone care to chip in their experiences?
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RREv4 freezes as well
Alternativly, although not quite as developed as butler, TouchLockPro now allows for the launching of programs/command parameters for capacitive swipes and actually adds four more capacitive swipes than what butler does. Likewise it does NOT freeze upon start up for whatever reason on any rom I've tried.

proven works

[BUG] Problem with Manilla.
It has problem with manilla. After launching app its a must to change active tab if you want launch this or another app again.

Does Butler still allow you to scroll zoom messages and zoom in/out in Opera?

whiteblazer01 said:
Does Butler still allow you to scroll zoom messages and zoom in/out in Opera?
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Yes, Butler doesn't impact on the touch sensitive circle area at all, it only notices and interprets light swipes over the call/home/back buttons.

Swype now available as a CAB

It seems that the awesome keyboard app called Swype has been ripped off the Samsung Omnia II and a CAB has been created to install on winmo WVGA devices.
Info on Swype can be found here: http://www.swypeinc.com/
CAB located here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ungnttnzmwa/Swype.cab
I installed it on my Imagio and let's just say that I am NOT going back to the regular keyboard anytime soon!!!!!
Enjoy and let me know if anyone finds any issues. I've only used it for about 10 minutes and haven't found anything thus far.

Looks pretty interesting I will have to give it a try later.

That does look pretty freakin' cool.

Just installed it on my Imagio...
WOW loving it thus far...

Top notch works great!

this is really awesome. very impressed with the accuracy so far.
can we make it so the keys pop up like the oem keyboard?

Thanks so much for sharing, this is awesome!

WM noob here -- installed fine but no change. What do i need to do to enable?

had same problem

Did you do a soft-reset?

enabling
No soft reset required. At the bottom of the screen, there's usually that keyboard icon. Just to the right of it is a small arrow. Using the stylus helps for those of is big fingered folks.
Click that arrow and up will pop a menu. Select "Other Input Methods" and then select Swype.
You won't need to do that again, unless you do a soft-reset of the phone at any time.

Ahhh there it is; thx buddy.
Former BB users have stylus "lapses" from time to time....

No problemo.....
us newbies have to stick together.

Best Keyboard I have ever used!
Awesome working great easy to use

I have the vzw tp2. this thread should be in something else since it works on other devices.
also why won't the keyboard stay on swype when you turn off the phone?

thanks its working perfect

Might just be the best app for WM yet!
I was skeptical . . . but now I am hooked! It takes a bit of getting used to, but it REALLY does make typing on a soft-keyboard easy. I don't need no STINKING slideout keyboard!

You can use SIPChange to make Swype be the default keyboard when you do a power off/power on.

This keyboard is ****ing psychic

rjygraham said:
You can use SIPChange to make Swype be the default keyboard when you do a power off/power on.
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i also had the default keyboard problem and used SIPChange...
"Apparently this is a bug with WM 6.5. Use the cab SIPChanger to set swype as the default keyboard, this setting will even survive a soft reset ( thank god )
Make sure to set the startup delay thingy to 40 seconds or the program will crash on startup." (quote from Survivalism over at PPC).
He also posted the SIPChange cab on his thread...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=100973&page=3
I thanked him there and thank everyone here for all the help.