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Ive owned my new Kaiser for a week now and thought I'd share some issues. The first is there is no internet sharing on the current rom. It currently uses wmodem with dun and I cant seem to get it to work right. I want my internet sharing (PAN) that my tytn had back. Another issue is that there is no external antenna connector on the back of the phone. I didnt know this when I ordered the phone and I need it for the weak signals that I get in certain areas when I travel. The battery drains much faster than the tytn I had, and I cant really figure out why. I cant tell if the GPS is staying on and draining the battery when Im done using it because there is no real way to tell. Other than these issues it's an awesome phone and the gps seems to work great, but I would like to get the internet tethering to work so I can use it with my laptop on the road. Has anyone had any luck with this?
Hi
The Kaiser has not yet been officially released, and the units out there are BETA/Test units, where did you get yours?
Because so few people have one and you are unlikely to be using the final ROM that everyone will get when it's officially released, I can't see you getting any help with your problems just now.
You will need to wait for the official release and hope someone puts the ROM up so you can at least get the latest version of the software.
Regards
Phil
Thanks Phil, I got mine on ebay from a nice man in Europe that frequents this site. I buy everything on ebay. I understand the situation with the beta test models, but you would think there would be other people with beta test models in the same situation that might be able to help out. You would also think that if htc released a bunch of pre-release (beta) units that they would want feedback from the people that own them. It would be nice to know if someone is working on new test roms for these phones and how you go about getting them. Thanks for the response. Brian
Hmm..if i dont lost my mind i belive that i saw a video review today where they showed the external antenna connector on the back of the phone..
Yeaa i found it again..Here you have the link
http://tv.prylinfo.se/2007/08/htc-p4550-kaiser-demonstration.html
Check the first video revew "HTC P4550 (Kaiser) Demonstration by eXpansys
You can se how he uses his pen to lift the rubber protection thing.. Hm..Sorry for my bad english but just watch the review
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Oh my god, I fel like an idiot. I t is behind the rubber thing! It said gps on it so I didn't try to pry it up to look under it. Thanks for the help. Now if I could just get this thing to share internet access with my laptop I'd be happy. Does anyone know if theres a internet sharing (PAN) cab file that would enable it on the kaiser! Thanks again for all the help.
Never mind, got it to work, with a couple of files that were posted for me. This forum is great!
Ok I have been seriously thinking about buying one of these and have already started saving my money to get one but before I take the plunge and spend almost $800.
I guess my first question is a hardware question. I have read a few posts about people having issues with the USB being "crappy" and also the digitizer cutting out due to loose internal connections. I really want to know if these are very common problems or rare instances of hardware failure.
Seccondly, it seems like the firmware is kinda buggy from things that I've read and that the phone's release was rushed and the firmware suffered the consequences. I know there is no cube on the Kaiser, (honestly glad to hear it... its a memory wasting piece of junk IMHO...) I know that TouchFlo is not on the phone and honestly, it's not neccessary to me.
Third and finally, I have T-Mobile as my wireless carrier and if I were to buy a Kaiser, would it be possible to configure it for T-Mobile's GPRS and EDGE settings for their Total Internet package that I have? I am a big user of the internet on my Wizard and would need it if I bought a Kaiser.
I suppose what I'm asking is are there any serious firmware flaws that drive you guys(and gals) crazy and is the hardware commonly unreliable on these phones? I really like what I see on the HTC website and I have done alot of looking around on ebay and love the performance specs I have read but don't want to spend a ton of money if it's not worth the money. You know?
Any and all help on this matter would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Dan.
Honestly it's not a problem.
My Kaiser (and my Wife's and a work friend) are all fine. There are a few sniggles with the firmware, that I'm sure will be sorted, as lets be honest all first edition firmware's have.
The device DOES have TouchFlo, just no Cube......
The internet etc are all fine... I'm on T-Mobile as well....
Go for it, it's the best QVGA device out there at the moment.
Mine has no problems and is fantastic!.
Matt.
the_ape said:
Honestly it's not a problem.
My Kaiser (and my Wife's and a work friend) are all fine. There are a few sniggles with the firmware, that I'm sure will be sorted, as lets be honest all first edition firmware's have.
The device DOES have TouchFlo, just no Cube......
The internet etc are all fine... I'm on T-Mobile as well....
Go for it, it's the best QVGA device out there at the moment.
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I'm gonna go for it. I figure what do I have to lose? Money? I can always get more... Besides it seems like a well built phone and from what everyone has told me and everything I've read, it seems to be completely compatible with T-mobile which is a plus.
I'm saving guys... Sooner than later I hope, I will be an active member of the Kaiser community but for now, It's Wizard for me.
I currently have an At&t tilt that came with the stock software. I was wondering if I should switch over the the HTC rom? What are the benefits? What are the cons?
Also is it true I can use tomtom with the HTC rom?
yes, there is benifits because it will free up space available, and will open everything smoother and faster. Yes, you can use TOMTOM with HTC Roms, i have.. I am using Tmobile so the ATT crap had to go.. good luck!
Read the descriptions of the different roms and see if they appeal to you. TomTom shold work on all of the roms including the stock tilt rom. I run it on my tilt with no problems at all.
Ok I looked through the wiki and while it shows how to flash the HTC rom on there, it didn't mention a comparison between the two(sorry if I missed it).
Could anyone give me a link comparing the two?
Is it risky to flash my phone? Can it brick easily and can it come out of being bricked?
Anyone that has had both roms and tell me which they prefer?
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Ok I looked through the wiki and while it shows how to flash the HTC rom on there, it didn't mention a comparison between the two(sorry if I missed it).
Could anyone give me a link comparing the two?
Is it risky to flash my phone? Can it brick easily and can it come out of being bricked?
Anyone that has had both roms and tell me which they prefer?
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I haven't seen any cons mentioned yet, and I think there is one.
I have read that there are many benefits to changing to a non ATT ROM, but keep in mind it will voice you warranty. That's why I have never flashed.
In most cases, you could just flash back to ATT ROM, if you needed warranty assistance, but my big fear is what if one encounters the infamous Red Light Of Death and is unable to flash back, or some other situation which makes the phone inoperable?
I'm just too chicken, and too broke to risk it
Original Poster,
I believe I remember seeing a thread in this forum (probably quite deep at this point as it was some time ago) comparing the stock tilt rom vs the HTC OEM rom. I'm betting a search for this thread will get you the answers you are looking for.
cincy1020 said:
I haven't seen any cons mentioned yet, and I think there is one.
I have read that there are many benefits to changing to a non ATT ROM, but keep in mind it will voice you warranty. That's why I have never flashed.
In most cases, you could just flash back to ATT ROM, if you needed warranty assistance, but my big fear is what if one encounters the infamous Red Light Of Death and is unable to flash back, or some other situation which makes the phone inoperable?
I'm just too chicken, and too broke to risk it
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thanks. I think ill stay with the att rom until my warranty runs out. The tilt comes with 1 year right?
can I download tomtom from their site or do I need to do something special to get it?
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thanks. I think ill stay with the att rom until my warranty runs out. The tilt comes with 1 year right?
can I download tomtom from their site or do I need to do something special to get it?
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Hi:
Yes, the Tilt has a 1 year warranty. ATT is actually VERY helpful and quick at replacing your phone if you ever need it (as long as it doesn't have physical or liquid damage).
As far as Tom Tom, the Tilt doesn't include it at all. If you want it you will have to buy the full version (which I believe is around $150).ATT did this to try to trick you into using TeleNav (for $10 a month).
If you search around, I believe I have seen the taster version (which came on TyTN II) floating around. I haven't used it, so I'm not sure exactly where I saw it.
is there any free gps software out there? doesnt have to be tomtom.
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is there any free gps software out there? doesnt have to be tomtom.
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Google Maps, and Windows Live are both free, although for me they weren't very good. I just don't see the point of Mapping software that doesn't have voice announcements, doesn't seem safe to sit and stare at your phone while driving, lol.
But that's just me, others have said they really like both.
The paid for apps do have voice alerts etc.
I personally use iGo 2006, and really like it. I have also heard very good things about TomTom.
nav4all is free. its very basic, but it gets the job done without costing anything. I would suggest saving up the 100 dollars it costs to buy a copy of iGuidance 4. You get PC, UMPC/Laptop, and PocketPC versions all on the same disk for one price. It also doesnt require a data connection to work, but does require 1.3gb of storage space on your memory card for all the map data. So youll have to figure in another 15-30 dollars for a 2gb card, unless you already have one you can use.
Should I return the TILT???
I was depending on this being an mp3 player/video player/phone/fun/office device. ALL IN ONE being key!!
This device has dissapointed me on the multimedia end for obvious reasons as I can't even drag and drop SD DIVX Shows!!
Is there a device that can do all this that I should get instead since I'm in my 30 days???? What would you do?
Thanks for any advice....
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Should I return the TILT???
I was depending on this being an mp3 player/video player/phone/fun/office device. ALL IN ONE being key!!
This device has dissapointed me on the multimedia end for obvious reasons as I can't even drag and drop SD DIVX Shows!!
Is there a device that can do all this that I should get instead since I'm in my 30 days???? What would you do?
Thanks for any advice....
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I am also in the same boat. I was expecting more from it when it came to playing movies and just overall performance. Don't know if I should return it to newegg and void the att contract. Or if it would be better to keep the contract, sell the phone on ebay, and use that money to buy a different phone.
return them
I would return them, and buy Iphones.
Iphones have by far the best web browsing available short of having a pc, which is what I was hoping for out of my tilt. Now that i know my web browsing issues are because htc didnt provide drivers, i feel like im missing a huge part of what this phone should have been and it is very disappointing.
Take It Back
return it...
RETURN IT
why? well the more HTC get returned etc the quicker they will pull their finger out and correct things and not allow such stupid mistakes
Just make damn sure that when you return it; you tell them WHY.
Hmm... The new 8gb Nokia N95 has just come out... Looks rather nice too...
All of you whom own a Tilt / Tytn II, T-mobile or other clone distributed by carriers should return this piece of ****ty hardware when not satisfied with the video performance.
Indeed, AT&T certainly would not have counted on such a return (and loss ) and will raise this towards HTC as loss of business.
Just return the ****ty thing and buy something that does what it's supposed to do.
And, for your own good, never buy anything coming from HTC. They're crooks, hypocrites and arrogant bastards who think that their customers are of a low enough IQ to be mocked in their face and still want to feed HTC money (this is exactly what comes out from their official response to the driver issue).
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I would return them, and buy Iphones.
Iphones have by far the best web browsing available short of having a pc, which is what I was hoping for out of my tilt. Now that i know my web browsing issues are because htc didnt provide drivers, i feel like im missing a huge part of what this phone should have been and it is very disappointing.
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It no iphone for me....no way. It has the same problems in limited capabilities as you have to convert everything and use itunes….no thanks!
Also, anyone have suggestions besides iphone??????
Nokia's new model of the N95 looks sweet. 8gb RAM, black, not HTC... Worth checking out.
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Nokia's new model of the N95 looks sweet. 8gb RAM, black, not HTC... Worth checking out.
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no 3g, small screen, no keyboard, GPS? ... all features i wanted
redsrule2500 said:
no 3g, small screen, no keyboard, GPS? ... all features i wanted
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Now to be fair, you didn't way what features you wanted!
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Now to be fair, you didn't way what features you wanted!
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Everything the tilt has...except it works!! I thought Tilt was my perfect device
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Everything the tilt has...except it works!! I thought Tilt was my perfect device
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Yup. I bought my tilt last week so I still have two weeks to decide. I would return it today if i could figure out a replacement that does everything the Tilt does but better. I would personally rather have the Tilt than an Iphone even with the problems, and that nokia isn't doing it for me.
If you don't mind losing the internal GPS and the extra ram you could downgrade to the 8525 (Hermes). Nice thing is that there price has dropped considerably since the Tilt came out. For awhile there AT&T was selling them for $99...so you could probably find another site out there somewhere that would give it to you even better than this.
I'll trade someone my 8525 for their Kaiser
ha, I can't believe what im reading here! are u guys really that bitter. I honestly feel that even when (if) htc releases the fix, MOST of us will not notice a big difference in our daily use. I compare it to a bluetooth keyboard I purchased. before I bought it, I was going crazy, thinking I needed one, etc. once I got it, I don't think I've ever used it.
don't get me wrong, I would love the drivers, but other than that I love my phone. great internet, great gps, full keyboard, etc. there is honestly no other phone id rather have.
My Warranty ends tomorrow. I think im just going to keep the damn thing. Sure the video converting sucks. but, I got the Camera to work (thanks to Navadi), and I havnt watched a movie on my mobile in awhile. At least the reception is flawless. I have better reception than most of my friends and family. with the same provider, AT&T.
In my house NO ONE gets reception. and I can have a full conversation inside my house perfectly.
My brother who owns the Iphone. He has to walk outside in order to talk on his phone.
Oh and yeah the full keyboard is much better than the Iphone at Texting.
Oh and dont get me wrong I am disappointed with HTC with the way they are handling this situation. Atleast be helpful, rather than leaving us with a "F**k you, we got your money, you got what you paid for." what they did was false advertise.
The problem is, in the U.S. The phone is still better than majority of all the other phones out there. OBviously not in Europe. but here. Yeah.
I've had both the iPhone (Returned it) and now I have the TILT...i prefer the tilt.
I know the video situation sucks but I think the phone is still good overall
I wanted to buy a TYTN II then i read than i can buy a HTC tilt 8925 for less than a TYTN II on ebay then upgrade the rom to TYTN II.
It is easy or risky to upgrade it?
Where i can find file for?
Also i saw on youtube some video who are showing than tomtom and videoplayer is slow on it. it is true?
Thanks
TYTN II and HTC Tilt 8925 are basically the same phone. The only difference is the camera on the front. Its useful in Europe where they support video calling.
Would I recommend it? Yes I would. Only because its currently the best most feature loaded phone you can get right now in the USA. However after the way HTC handled the whole driver issue, it will most likely be my last HTC device. At $150 with a 2 year contract you cant beat it, even with its faults.
The performance isn't bad for most tasks. I would suggest it mainly for tech friendly people and geeks. I would recommend the iPhone over it, if only the iPhone had 3G and was more open like Windows Mobile.
pops, i think u totally misunderstood what he was asking. He was asking if anyone would recommend buying the AT&T Tilt compared with the Tytn II.
Mammouth, the answers to all your questions is available everywhere in this forum. start from the stickies in here and in the upgrading forum and aso the wiki
I'm pretty sure I understood the question. My first sentence addressed the Tilt vs TYTN II question. The rest of my response wasn't as direct to his questions about the rom, but was direct at the title of the thread. "whould you recommand HTC tilt?"
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Also i saw on youtube some video who are showing than tomtom and videoplayer is slow on it. it is true?
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Hell no I wouldn't recommend it. I got mine for $700 only to find out that they didn't develop drivers to use the hardware graphics acceleration on the chip they touted. They didn't make this point known and now appear unwilling to rectify the situation. I felt fine spending so much because I trusted HTC. I bought early having faith in them as a company. If you really want one/absolutely must have it and can find it for really cheap then by all means go for it. They are easy to flash and customize. However, if I were in your shoes, knowing what I know now, I would save and wait for the next wave of devices. Something with a VGA screen, >= 128Mb RAM, GPS, and fully developed drivers to use some sort of acceleration.
To sum up - no I can't recommend the Tilt. In fact I can't recommend any HTC device anymore. I'll personally never buy one from them again. It's sad too cause I was a huge fan
Yes for now, but 3 months down the road, no. Better phones will be available then. Just wait for another better more full featured phone with windows. Or wait longer for WM7(WM8?)
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I'm pretty sure I understood the question. My first sentence addressed the Tilt vs TYTN II question. The rest of my response wasn't as direct to his questions about the rom, but was direct at the title of the thread. "whould you recommand HTC tilt?"
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well......tbh i'm not even sure if i understand wat he wants to know anymore........htc tilt 8925