I wanted to buy a TYTN II then i read than i can buy a HTC tilt 8925 for less than a TYTN II on ebay then upgrade the rom to TYTN II.
It is easy or risky to upgrade it?
Where i can find file for?
Also i saw on youtube some video who are showing than tomtom and videoplayer is slow on it. it is true?
Thanks
TYTN II and HTC Tilt 8925 are basically the same phone. The only difference is the camera on the front. Its useful in Europe where they support video calling.
Would I recommend it? Yes I would. Only because its currently the best most feature loaded phone you can get right now in the USA. However after the way HTC handled the whole driver issue, it will most likely be my last HTC device. At $150 with a 2 year contract you cant beat it, even with its faults.
The performance isn't bad for most tasks. I would suggest it mainly for tech friendly people and geeks. I would recommend the iPhone over it, if only the iPhone had 3G and was more open like Windows Mobile.
pops, i think u totally misunderstood what he was asking. He was asking if anyone would recommend buying the AT&T Tilt compared with the Tytn II.
Mammouth, the answers to all your questions is available everywhere in this forum. start from the stickies in here and in the upgrading forum and aso the wiki
I'm pretty sure I understood the question. My first sentence addressed the Tilt vs TYTN II question. The rest of my response wasn't as direct to his questions about the rom, but was direct at the title of the thread. "whould you recommand HTC tilt?"
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Also i saw on youtube some video who are showing than tomtom and videoplayer is slow on it. it is true?
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Hell no I wouldn't recommend it. I got mine for $700 only to find out that they didn't develop drivers to use the hardware graphics acceleration on the chip they touted. They didn't make this point known and now appear unwilling to rectify the situation. I felt fine spending so much because I trusted HTC. I bought early having faith in them as a company. If you really want one/absolutely must have it and can find it for really cheap then by all means go for it. They are easy to flash and customize. However, if I were in your shoes, knowing what I know now, I would save and wait for the next wave of devices. Something with a VGA screen, >= 128Mb RAM, GPS, and fully developed drivers to use some sort of acceleration.
To sum up - no I can't recommend the Tilt. In fact I can't recommend any HTC device anymore. I'll personally never buy one from them again. It's sad too cause I was a huge fan
Yes for now, but 3 months down the road, no. Better phones will be available then. Just wait for another better more full featured phone with windows. Or wait longer for WM7(WM8?)
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I'm pretty sure I understood the question. My first sentence addressed the Tilt vs TYTN II question. The rest of my response wasn't as direct to his questions about the rom, but was direct at the title of the thread. "whould you recommand HTC tilt?"
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well......tbh i'm not even sure if i understand wat he wants to know anymore........htc tilt 8925
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Ok I have been seriously thinking about buying one of these and have already started saving my money to get one but before I take the plunge and spend almost $800.
I guess my first question is a hardware question. I have read a few posts about people having issues with the USB being "crappy" and also the digitizer cutting out due to loose internal connections. I really want to know if these are very common problems or rare instances of hardware failure.
Seccondly, it seems like the firmware is kinda buggy from things that I've read and that the phone's release was rushed and the firmware suffered the consequences. I know there is no cube on the Kaiser, (honestly glad to hear it... its a memory wasting piece of junk IMHO...) I know that TouchFlo is not on the phone and honestly, it's not neccessary to me.
Third and finally, I have T-Mobile as my wireless carrier and if I were to buy a Kaiser, would it be possible to configure it for T-Mobile's GPRS and EDGE settings for their Total Internet package that I have? I am a big user of the internet on my Wizard and would need it if I bought a Kaiser.
I suppose what I'm asking is are there any serious firmware flaws that drive you guys(and gals) crazy and is the hardware commonly unreliable on these phones? I really like what I see on the HTC website and I have done alot of looking around on ebay and love the performance specs I have read but don't want to spend a ton of money if it's not worth the money. You know?
Any and all help on this matter would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Dan.
Honestly it's not a problem.
My Kaiser (and my Wife's and a work friend) are all fine. There are a few sniggles with the firmware, that I'm sure will be sorted, as lets be honest all first edition firmware's have.
The device DOES have TouchFlo, just no Cube......
The internet etc are all fine... I'm on T-Mobile as well....
Go for it, it's the best QVGA device out there at the moment.
Mine has no problems and is fantastic!.
Matt.
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Honestly it's not a problem.
My Kaiser (and my Wife's and a work friend) are all fine. There are a few sniggles with the firmware, that I'm sure will be sorted, as lets be honest all first edition firmware's have.
The device DOES have TouchFlo, just no Cube......
The internet etc are all fine... I'm on T-Mobile as well....
Go for it, it's the best QVGA device out there at the moment.
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I'm gonna go for it. I figure what do I have to lose? Money? I can always get more... Besides it seems like a well built phone and from what everyone has told me and everything I've read, it seems to be completely compatible with T-mobile which is a plus.
I'm saving guys... Sooner than later I hope, I will be an active member of the Kaiser community but for now, It's Wizard for me.
OK, out of strange series of events I ended up buying a tilt and a Tytn II online that should be here soon. I also purchased a 8GB card *drools* that I'm saving for when the lucky phone gets here.
First off I want to say I've had a 8525 (hermes) for a year or so and I wanted to upgrade I am very familar with having this PDA and it's plans but what I'm not used to is flashing (even though I did it once to upgrade my phone from wm5 to wm6) I would like to know which ROM are best at the moment or even if there is one and if it's even worth it to jump into 6.1 right now.
My second question would be 0_0 which phone do I keep?? they are both new and I plan on selling the other one. The tilt isn't unlocked but I don't see how that really matters since I'll be using att anyway. Also Black is my favorite color (which this tilt is). but I do like the extra camera that the tytn has (even though I probably won't be able to use it). So which one should I keep?? Which ROM should I install once I decide which one to keep??
does anyone have an idea??
Read all about the ROM's and then decide which best suits your needs.
The phones are basically the same, especially if you install a ROM.
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I'm just putting this out there, but you know.... since you have a second one, people are looking for a donation tilt/tytn to work on for video drivers
I'd keep the Tilt. The units are basically exactly the same, and you can get more in return for the TYTN II since it has the front camera that you can't use. The only thing you can use the front camera for is a mirror, so unless you are a pretty vain person, I don't think it is worth it. If money isn't an object for you, I think the TYTN II is a little cooler looking, but it doesn't really make sense to spend the extra amount for it over the Tilt.
I'm looking to purchase a cheap Hermes if you are letting that go too.
Well yeah I am planning on selling it. I was planning on trying to sell it for 280 with the 2GB card how does that sound to you??
That is the question. Looking to that T-Mobile Wing device and found a lot of negative feedbacks in internet. Many people says that wing is very buggy and slow. What do you think about that? Very appretiate to get your opinions.
Thank you.
At this point, the wing is the only phone that Tmobile offers. It is pretty buggy and slow with the stock ROM on it. There are plenty of custom ROM's found on this forum that make the wing usable. I wouldn't say that they are incredibly fast compared to the tytn II, but with the right programs and ROM, the wing is fairly stable and fast.
At this point if you can wait I would say wait. The wing is near the end of its life cycle and with T-mobile launching its 3g network now they are going to come out with a new device. I am looking forward to getting my hands on an Android phone when they launch it 3rd quarter. Its a good phone just a little old and under powered at this point imo.
well bro.. Tmobile Wing a.k.a. HTC Herald is a older device. You can see, HTC Touch, have the same processor but double of memory (RAM and FLASH). Also u can see HTC Polaris (Touch Cruiser) is powered by a speedy processor (400MHz)
I can recommend u HTC Kaiser (TyTN II, AT&T Tilt) that its sold by AT&T. Is a good device, the only thing is poor video drivers.. but.. u r goin to turn ur ppc into a gaming device? i dont think so
Ok guys. First of all thank you about your opinions. You have very friendly forum.
I am consider wing as a cheap device. Just looked at ebay and found a lot of 300$ offers for never used phones. I am using t mobile prepaid and so can't get contract discount. I think all models which you mentioned are more expensive then wing.
Thank you again for your opinions.
if you want it for cheap i know of a WWw where you can get it cheap and new with 2 year contract
There are a lot of 1$ offers with 2y contract on ebay
its a good www i have used it may times and got my phone and family's phone from here
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That is the question. Looking to that T-Mobile Wing device and found a lot of negative feedbacks in internet. Many people says that wing is very buggy and slow. What do you think about that? Very appretiate to get your opinions.
Thank you.
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I got mine on ebay a little over a year ago for around 250, but yeah, on the stock rom, it does run slow and can be buggy. ...but, flashing to different roms, and all the tweaks you can do make it run extremely stable and quick. True, there are some other phones coming out with faster processors, but you are going to pay a lot more $$$ for them. I'm extremely happy with the way I have my phone setup now. It's a night and day difference from the stock rom.
I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?
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I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?
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If you can't upgrade until May then you'll get little joy out of Orange I'm afraid. You have to be in the last three months of your contract before they'll let you upgrade. However, saying that you've got nothing to lose by calling them and you may be able to get a deal if you change your package to a more expensive one.
Cal them first before going the eBay route - as I said you've got nothing to lose.
Is it worth it? Hell, yeah! I was torn between the Diamond and waiting for the Pro, but impatience got the better of me and I plumped for the Diamond.
Even though I've only had it a day I can definitely say that it is fantastic! It's up to you if you want to wait for the Pro. I've come from a TyTN II myself and I sat back and really thought about it before going for the Diamond, and basically asked myself two questions:
1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
2. How much free space did I have on my 4Gb SD card? 2.5Gb, so for me having 4Gb of non-upgradable storage wasn't an issue.
The final thing that swung it for me was the size of the thing. It's good to have a PDA that's "phone sized", rather than being a huge brick.
Thats a good idea Have a word with Orange and twist there arms, see what you can do. I think my missus is due an Upgrade in August and im sure she will go for the Diamond (but as shes skint, I think shes gonna put it on eBay!!!!!!!)
I love my diamond and have used phones with hardware keyboards and like the post above says, how often do you really use it?
Software professionals and IT gurus would probably miss it as im sure using a hardware keyboard and using the Remote Desktop software is a great combination, but the VGA screen is excellent on the Diamond, its the best phone ive ever owned (and ive had quite a few...see my signature!)
Diamond = Thumbs up. Theres sooo much software and tweaks out at the moment with more software coming out just around the corner!
The futures bright, the futures...errr...Diamond? hehe!
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1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
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Wow, how did you cope without the keypad? I think I probably use it 10-20 times a day and this is the main reason I'm holding back on upgrading I guess.
It looks a fantastic piece of kit... but I don't think I'd like using an onscreen keyboard
How long have you been with Orange?
If it's over a couple of years remind them how much money they have had off you and if that doesn't work tell them you will consider cancelling the contract. Generally they want to keep customers so will eventually give in.
Also, it's always good to ask to speak to their line manager if they can't help.
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I am in search of a new phone for Sprint. I have the Titan (Mogul) and want to upgrade. Not sure how long before the Diamond 2 will be available for Sprint. Any suggestions?
I checked with Sprints CSR's but they said they have not heard of it
wait for it
well in europe the diamond2 is launching april or may, as far as i have been told. but since you use sprint, i guess you are from USA right? and its said that USA would not get it until Q3 or Q4 of 2009. with that said i would wait no matter what, unless you really hate your titan. because diamond is good but diamond2 is for sure worth the wait
Well, Q3 or Q4, thats towards the end of the year. The titan is falling apart, i took it to get serviced and they charged $100, so i figured i might as well upgrade since i am due and i can get the Diamond for $199. Not sure what the Diamond2 is going to cost. Any word out?
If it comes out end of this year, i am sure I will be due for an upgrade by Q1 next year and by then they will have fixed all the ROM issues and bugs"? Ideas?
I would suggest not waiting for it as it might take forever or never to get to you particular cell phone provider. The Diamond thanks to this forum is great. As far as price is concern...based on speculation that the specs. are pretty much identical to the HTC HD, expect the price to be high....
So affordability might be an issue regarding this decision as well.
Thats exactly what i was thinking. not sure how long before Sprint actually starts to have them available on their network. Even if they have it end of this year for Christmas, it will take a few months for the price to be reduced and at that time i will be eligible for an upgrade to another phone by late Q1.
What is the best ROM to have on the diamond and what suggestions do you all recommend once i receive it? I am sure i have lots of read on this site to make the most of the Diamond, but any quick suggestions?
How is the texting on it, easy to use? i am used to the full keyboard from titan.
I will send you my thoughts / recommendations in your PM box....check there
thanks for your recommendation. i will place the order today for the Diamond. Any links you all want to recommend me to so that i can view it and learn more about the Diamond before it arrives?.
for me, the diamond2 getting bigger is a big reason why i didn't wait for it. and there's no guarantee that sprint will even carry the diamond2 anyway and as others have said it'll probably be q409 before they have it at all.
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thanks for your recommendation. i will place the order today for the Diamond. Any links you all want to recommend me to so that i can view it and learn more about the Diamond before it arrives?.
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Basically go through the stickies in the development thread starting with this one>>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
Step One: Hard SPL your device
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Basically go through the stickies in the development thread starting with this one>>http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
Step One: Hard SPL your device
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Thanks,
Whats the purpose of the Hard SPL?
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I would suggest not waiting for it as it might take forever or never to get to you particular cell phone provider. The Diamond thanks to this forum is great. As far as price is concern...based on speculation that the specs. are pretty much identical to the HTC HD, expect the price to be high....
So affordability might be an issue regarding this decision as well.
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but the music audio quality of the Diamond is way worse than the Touch HD one right? I'm asking because I'm indecisive between the two for months now :/
Sprint being CDMA not GSM will likely take longer before carying it them people are estimating.. I would guess mid 2010 if ever & By then if they jump on the LTE train with the pther 3 carriers they may not be all that inclined to cary a high end device that they will have to replace so soon.. & if there not jumping on the LTE train then there going to be suffering BADLY network wise & You would be better off moving elsewhere..