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Do you think the the bugs will be fixed for 8925?

I just wanted to know that should i wait for 8925 or get a TyTN II now?
do you think that the current bugs that people mention that TyTN II has, will be fixed for 8925 or not!?

lungothrin said:
I just wanted to know that should i wait for 8925 or get a TyTN II now?
do you think that the current bugs that people mention that TyTN II has, will be fixed for 8925 or not!?
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My view - If you wait for an 8925 it will not change any of the "bugs" (IMHO small ones - but it depends what is important to you). Also if you get a branded version it may suffer the usual "bloat" that comes with that.
A better reason to wait might be price, but then that could take quite a while to drop substantially.
Mike

lungothrin said:
I just wanted to know that should i wait for 8925 or get a TyTN II now?
do you think that the current bugs that people mention that TyTN II has, will be fixed for 8925 or not!?
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We will have to look into our crystal ball to know for sure.

Crystal Ball?? We're talking AT&T here. It's a magic 8 Ball. You don't think there's any logic behind those answers they give do you?!
-Mc

I'm still doing my research on this too, so this probably already has an answer. But when updates come out (if there's not already one, or a dump/cook?), 8925 users could go unbranded pretty easily. I'm just wondering if the 8925 will use the same general scheme for simlocks as 8525, and if so, if the 8525 unlocker could work, or be easily adapted. I'm intending on using the 8925 with tmousa, even though in my area it's only got gprs . Figure for $550, I could cancel my att and save a lot just keeping tmousa, and hopefully it'll have edge buildout or something by next year. On a side note, I wonder why they got rid of irda. I was hoping to be able to use my phone as a remote control (if they even can.. i remember my old nokia s60)

ziddey said:
I'm still doing my research on this too, so this probably already has an answer. But when updates come out (if there's not already one, or a dump/cook?), 8925 users could go unbranded pretty easily. I'm just wondering if the 8925 will use the same general scheme for simlocks as 8525, and if so, if the 8525 unlocker could work, or be easily adapted. I'm intending on using the 8925 with tmousa, even though in my area it's only got gprs . Figure for $550, I could cancel my att and save a lot just keeping tmousa, and hopefully it'll have edge buildout or something by next year. On a side note, I wonder why they got rid of irda. I was hoping to be able to use my phone as a remote control (if they even can.. i remember my old nokia s60)
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T-Mobile is coming out with the Kaiser also but when we have no idea.. Also T-mobile is going to be using the 1700Mhz for there 3G so pretty soon we will all have the Kaiser with every carrior!

Cool. The thing is that I'm kind of stuck at the moment and not sure what to do. I've been selling phones during the summer months and going to school during the rest. For the first summer, I sold a lot of phones and was in good terms with the tmo indirect guy. He told me he'd let me keep my dealer line even though I went on hiatus until the next summer. However, when next summer rolled around, I heard that the guy got promoted somewhere else in tmo. I never met the new guy who was supposed to visit our kiosk. Same went for the third summer. Now, I'm back at school again. Still on the smartaccess since I was only 18 with no history when I first got the dealer line.
I'm not sure exactly what my internet includes, since it seems to be on and off what I'm allowed to do. But in any case, out here in ithaca, ny, they seem to have pulled away from the market. I was originally debating a parttime here during the year, but they're gone now. Currently, on my 6682 that I'm using with tmo, I'm only seeing gprs.
I'm a little afraid of calling into tmo since it's a dealer line, and the site I worked at has changed dealer codes since my line was activated, so I'm afraid it'll run into trouble. Anyone have any insight?

Good Bye Kaiser

it is been fun and it is real.....but not real fun.....
found out at&t is getting touch pro and going to it when comes out
see here for touch pro rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2442636#post2442636
creit to alltheway of course

Interesting, I hope to get this device as well. Let's see how much it rolls out for first.

herg62123 said:
it is been fun and it is real.....but not real fun.....
found out at&t is getting touch pro and going to it when comes out
see here for touch pro rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2442636#post2442636
creit to alltheway of course
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Hi:
This is great news! Where did you hear this? Is there any timeframe of when they will get it?
Thanks!

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
This is great news! Where did you hear this? Is there any timeframe of when they will get it?
Thanks!
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i am a sales rep in an at&t store, and every day i try to find out when it is to come out but no luck yet. as soon as i find out i will reply here any info i might have, but for now i have nothing useful.

herg62123 said:
i am a sales rep in an at&t store, and every day i try to find out when it is to come out but no luck yet. as soon as i find out i will reply here any info i might have, but for now i have nothing useful.
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Thanks for keeping us posted!
I will make sure to keep a close eye on this thread

Gotta rename thread to "Good Buy Kaiser"

Mine is on order already, expecting an arrival of mid to late August. £525 GBP. Gotta raise some money now...anyone want a faulty Kaiser??!!!

Why does everyone seem to announce they're departure with the Kaiser?
See, I would get a Touch Pro too, but :
525 Pounds = 1 045 USD.

dufferin said:
Why does everyone seem to announce they're departure with the Kaiser?
See, I would get a Touch Pro too, but :
525 Pounds = 1 045 USD.
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NOT only the cost, but what major functionality differences are there ( other than the D3D )? Not many i know of. It is a bit sexier though...... ill wait a year after its release when the prices are reasonable, or hang onto my Tilt until ATT rolls out 4G.... since i see no major technological advantages at this point......

i love my tilt, but hey if att is getting the touch pro, then kaiser get out the way and touch pro here i come, by the way matmaneyre, ill take your faulty kaiser

Sorry, just checked back on this post. Sold my faulty kaiser on ebay for £195. Well impressed. That's gone towards my Touch Pro. Well pleased with it btw. Its excellent so far. Had it since August 15th.
Oh and announcing departure from the Kaiser is like saying good riddance to a huge disappointment from day one, what with video driver issues and all the other problems I had with mine.

Is the touch pro the one where they drop the WiFi feature?

The Touch Pro does have wifi.

I think the tilt came out around March 07? for at&t...I waited until Oct 07 to get it, price came down, early adopters worked out the kinks etc. I'll hang onto my tilt until the touch pro has been out a little while..and to let the price come down after the holidays. Looks like a great device, but I'm not in THAT much of a hurry

oh, does this mean no more hergila?

mbarvian said:
oh, does this mean no more hergila?
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Pleaseeeee dont say its so!!!!!!!

herg62123 said:
i am a sales rep in an at&t store, and every day i try to find out when it is to come out but no luck yet. as soon as i find out i will reply here any info i might have, but for now i have nothing useful.
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talked to an HTC rep and well at&t will get the Touch Pro in october! and on a side note official 6.1 release the 26th. Hope that tickles everyones fancy =P

Next time, please don't tickle my fancy without my permission.

does the touch pro have video drivers ?
and what about the fm radio I was told the att model will not have the radio

not sure about fm or d3d drivers... i'm sure it would have drivers but i am not sure. when i talk to rep again i'll bring up some of these questions.

Upgrade Advice

I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?

AndyCr15 said:
I currently have a Kaiser (HTC TyTnII on UK Orange) but have only just looked into the HTC Touch Diamond... and wow, does it look nice!
On the Orange website it's saying I can't upgrade my phone until May next year. eBay has the Diamond at around £350.
So, I guess I'm wondering if anyone can advise me. Are Orange likely to cut me a deal if I call them up? I guess I'm bound to a contract with them at present so I can't say I'm leaving them. Will it be easiest just to buy one from eBay?
Is it worth it? Is the Touch Pro out or coming out soon? Should I wait for that?
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If you can't upgrade until May then you'll get little joy out of Orange I'm afraid. You have to be in the last three months of your contract before they'll let you upgrade. However, saying that you've got nothing to lose by calling them and you may be able to get a deal if you change your package to a more expensive one.
Cal them first before going the eBay route - as I said you've got nothing to lose.
Is it worth it? Hell, yeah! I was torn between the Diamond and waiting for the Pro, but impatience got the better of me and I plumped for the Diamond.
Even though I've only had it a day I can definitely say that it is fantastic! It's up to you if you want to wait for the Pro. I've come from a TyTN II myself and I sat back and really thought about it before going for the Diamond, and basically asked myself two questions:
1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
2. How much free space did I have on my 4Gb SD card? 2.5Gb, so for me having 4Gb of non-upgradable storage wasn't an issue.
The final thing that swung it for me was the size of the thing. It's good to have a PDA that's "phone sized", rather than being a huge brick.

Thats a good idea Have a word with Orange and twist there arms, see what you can do. I think my missus is due an Upgrade in August and im sure she will go for the Diamond (but as shes skint, I think shes gonna put it on eBay!!!!!!!)
I love my diamond and have used phones with hardware keyboards and like the post above says, how often do you really use it?
Software professionals and IT gurus would probably miss it as im sure using a hardware keyboard and using the Remote Desktop software is a great combination, but the VGA screen is excellent on the Diamond, its the best phone ive ever owned (and ive had quite a few...see my signature!)
Diamond = Thumbs up. Theres sooo much software and tweaks out at the moment with more software coming out just around the corner!
The futures bright, the futures...errr...Diamond? hehe!

Teppic24 said:
1. How often did I use the keypad? Very rarely, maybe three times in the eight months that I owned the phone.
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Wow, how did you cope without the keypad? I think I probably use it 10-20 times a day and this is the main reason I'm holding back on upgrading I guess.
It looks a fantastic piece of kit... but I don't think I'd like using an onscreen keyboard

How long have you been with Orange?
If it's over a couple of years remind them how much money they have had off you and if that doesn't work tell them you will consider cancelling the contract. Generally they want to keep customers so will eventually give in.
Also, it's always good to ask to speak to their line manager if they can't help.

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Tilt Replacement

I have had my Tilt for a little over a year now and I realy like it alot, but being a forward thinking person I understand that when my contract is up in 8 months or so I am going to want a new phone. I have been scouring fourums and manufacturer websites and have been unable to find anything that fills the Tilts shoes. One of my main concerns is that other phones all seem to be getting rid of the buttons on the front which I want to keep. does anyone have any suggestions for a replacement phone, already out or on the way?

wait and see what is coming out in 8 months.

There's not many phones worth the price or trouble to replace the Kaiser. I'd just wait and see what going to be new in the market. I heard HTC maybe making a phone with the Nvidia graphics chip, so that maybe worth the wait.
Otherwise, most new HTC phones are using a 128 Mhz faster CPU, with slightly more ram, storage, accelerometer, and higher resolution screen. Higher Megapixel camera too, if that matters to you. Some new phones don't even have a keyboard, so you'll have to use the touch screen.
If I were to buy a new Smart Phone, it'll probably be based on the Android OS. If WM6.5 doesn't get a massive overhaul, then Android is the way to go.

There are many android phones coming out that I would like to have.

Sony Ericsson Xperia 2!!! Cool Phone!

Nope here it is, the uber mega phone to crush all other phones.
http://gizmodo.com/5361497/itg-xpphone-runs-windows-xp-pre+orders-for-att-vodafone-and-orange

Well, I can tell you my 2 years is up, and I am probably going to get the Touch Pro 2 (aka Tilt 2) from AT&T when it comes out.

when is that supposed to come out??

hardcoresmylife said:
when is that supposed to come out??
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Originally it was scheduled for Oct. 6th, but ROM bugs apparantly pushed that back to Oct. 18th. However, I'd bet you could get it a few days earlier if you asked the AT&T reps. I got my Tilt 3 days early, so I don't think getting the Pro2 would be terribly difficult to get ahead of schedule.

Personally I'm thinking of switching to a BlackBerry if another good HTC doesn't come out. I got the Tilt as a replacement to the 8125 and I couldn't be happier. I've had it for a long time now and it's extremely durable. I've dropped it numerous times and it's still in good condition. The 8125 broke after the 5th drop so I was vary happy about the replacement.

i just went to my ATT store and asked if they heard about a tilt 2 or touch pro 2 coming out in october. and the reps there said they havent heard of anything like that coming out in october... is there some news link that says something about this phone??

hardcoresmylife said:
i just went to my ATT store and asked if they heard about a tilt 2 or touch pro 2 coming out in october. and the reps there said they havent heard of anything like that coming out in october... is there some news link that says something about this phone??
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The Boy Genius Report posted this story, and if you google "Tilt 2", you'll find quite a few pictures and articles concerning it. When I asked my AT&T reps, they said they didn't know anything officially, but one who seemed to be senior over all the rest said that he wouldn't be surprised considering all the things online about it.

Buyers Remorse- Need help.

I bought a HD7 two days ago and am having serious buyers remorse every time I go into threads looking into the future of the device ranging from roms to regular apps.
I have a touch pro 2 as well as an HD2. I bought the HD7 for 150$ and its Tmo branded, I already RSPL'd it and am on Deep Shining I just want to know everyones opinion on the future of the phone.
Any help on reaching a decision is appreciated.

i came from Touch Pro2, as well. why the buyers' remorse with HD7?

sh4d0w86 said:
i came from Touch Pro2, as well. why the buyers' remorse with HD7?
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I'm not saying the phone is bad it looks really really nice the reason I am having buyer's remorse is because of the future of the phone. I keep seeing threads where people have given up on the phone and about future roms/apps.
That's really the only problem I have, just cant tell how long the phones legs will be for the future compared to the TP2 and the HD2.

grifter024 said:
I'm not saying the phone is bad it looks really really nice the reason I am having buyer's remorse is because of the future of the phone. I keep seeing threads where people have given up on the phone and about future roms/apps.
That's really the only problem I have, just cant tell how long the phones legs will be for the future compared to the TP2 and the HD2.
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the HD7 will be getting confirmed updates through to Apollo, aka WP8.
no sure what apps you can't find, but i have found every app i have needed/wanted.
Windows Phone is still in its infancy, it will only get better with age.

grifter024 said:
I'm not saying the phone is bad it looks really really nice the reason I am having buyer's remorse is because of the future of the phone. I keep seeing threads where people have given up on the phone and about future roms/apps.
That's really the only problem I have, just cant tell how long the phones legs will be for the future compared to the TP2 and the HD2.
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i had a TP2 very sluggish and had so many issues.. i am using my HD7 for a year now and no issues at all...
i am very happy with it and i will be moving on to Nokia or titan in jan or feb...

truffle1234 said:
i am very happy with it and i will be moving on to Nokia or titan in jan or feb...
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really, already? i am available for an upgrade, but i am waiting for WP8 and HD screens.

See thats what I mean. Lots of people are leaving the phone so fast, I barely got the phone and have an upgrade in Feb.
I was just wondering if it would be better to just return it and wait till Feb/March for a better phone.

grifter024 said:
See thats what I mean. Lots of people are leaving the phone so fast, I barely got the phone and have an upgrade in Feb.
I was just wondering if it would be better to just return it and wait till Feb/March for a better phone.
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i am not sure why, either.
only advantage the HTC Titan has is better camera(s)/cpu, i find the large screen a disadvantage because of the resolution.
all the Nokia phones have only the cpu going for it, everything else is lame compared to HD7.

Was decidng to take it back to the store and look for the phone on craigslist but even there almost noone has the phone! I barely find a handful of people with the phone but everyone is trying ot sell that Evo 3D.
I am thinking returning the phone and just lurking craigslist for the phone but I dont know if people will be selling it or if it will die off quickly which it seems to have done.