Hi!
I just replaced the screen on a wizard because the old one got smashed.
Anyway, I connected it up, re-assembled everything, and turned it on. The screen stays solid white, and then goes dim once its presumably finished booting.
The weird thing is, I can still use the touch-screen because if I click at the top left, I can hear the menu drop down, and can select items from it!
Any ideas what I've done wrong, if anything?
Ive triple checked all the connections and it all seems okay!
Help!
Thanks
two suggestions, that might aid diagnosis, feel free to shoot them down in flames.
Have you connected the device using pocket pc controller or similar software application?
Have you tried hard reset?
Do keep us updated.
Smithjw said:
because the old one got smashed.
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lol.. i like the way you said that...
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I had a simular problem replaceing my screen. I know you will say it looks right but it isnt. the ribbon cable that the lcd fits into isnt properly seated the tabs that stick out on the sides of the ribbon cable need to be fitted all the way up against the fitting the tabs on your arnt pushed in resultin in a volatge connection but no video.
i've broken my kaiser screen and would like to use the software "my mobiler"
Hello ! My kaiser's screen is broken (touch screen out of order and i cant see anything on my screen) and i woud like to use this software on my phone: http://mymobiler.com/
Moreover i had a password on my phone and i donnot know if i can unlock my phone without using my touch screen. I would like to know if it's possible to install this software whithout using kaiser's touch screen and if it is, how i can do it because im lost...
Thanks a lot Bye.
Try and install Soti Pocket Controller over active sync. Press the left soft key at some stage to proceed with the cab install once it is transferred to the phone.
Or better still... buy a new phone or a new screen here
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Or better still... buy a new phone or a new screen here
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Nothing more to say really, thats about summed up this thread
Ive replaced a screen on a Kaiser already... Very easy to do.. (I should have taken pictures of the disassembly)...
Anyway, all you need to do is
1) flip the screen up
2) You will see 4 screws holding the screen assembly together. Remove these
3) Next, GENTLY prise of the front cover from the back cover.
(You will not be able to completely remove the front cover, as the board connector cannot be unplugged from the main board...
4) Once you have the screen front and back covers seperated, disconnect the LCD Connector from the Board.
5) Carefully push on the LCD screen to seperate it from the front cover.
6) Once the screen is seperated from the front cover, simply slide the damaged screen out between the SIM card, and main board wiring..
7) Replace the LCD panel, and reverse the proceedure...
Should take you about 30minutes to complete....
I bought the screen for $70au including postage... MUCH cheaper than buying a new Kaiser at over $1000Au a pop...
Lemme know if you need more detailed instructions.
Thanks for your answers!
Does this fix both touch screen and lcd or only lcd ?
Touch screen is cooked in the lcd. So if one of the two is broken, you have te replace the whole piece.
Hy
I try to replace a broken screen by a new one but, i have a white screen, i chek all and i can't find the pb.
I tried also to replace with the bad who have just some picsel defect, but is blank too?
Do U think I crash my Kaiser?
or I forgot something?
I just installed my new LCD & the same happened. I took it apart again & noticed that the ribbon cable that connects the bottom buttons to the top LEDs was torn. It sucks! Now I have to find a cheap replacement. :-(
yah Im in the same boat....white screen...the phone works fine....what ribbon does one need? is it just the flex cable ribbon attached to the lcd or is it this thing (link)
Hello, I am a true noob so please forgive me if I sound dumb.
I had a broken screen so I bought a new one on Ebay. I changed it perfectly, it looks good but now when I touch the screen it acts like I touched the top left corner (in portrait)no matter where on the screen I touch (so it opens up the "Start" menu). In landscape it acts like I touched the top right so it opens up the drop down menu with all the running programs.
I would really appreciate some help. I try re-aligning the touch screen but it does not recognize any touches at all. I have to soft reset the phone to get out of the re-align program.
I don't want to hard reset because I have read many cases where the phone gets stuck in align program as it is trying to setup and they have to install remote access or something to get around it.
I would like advise on whether it is the new screen or the phone. Is there something I can check for inside or should I send the screen back for a replacement.
Thank you for your help.
Having replaced the touch screen in a Palm with success, I would say that...
You either have a problem with the connector for the screen, recheck the connection
Someone sold you a bad screen.
Something else is wrong with the device.
At this point I don't know that in your position I wouldn't do a hard reset. What is the worst thing that can happen? The device is already broken in it's current state.
Good luck.
Thank you
Thank you very much for your help. I will try the connector. if it does not look damaged then I will return the screen.
Did you replace just the screen itself, or the screen and the digitizer? More than likely your digitizer is broken aswell. If you replaced them as a set, request a new one from wherever you got it, and if you just replaced the LCD, then you need to buy a digitizer aswell.
ashasaur said:
Did you replace just the screen itself, or the screen and the digitizer? More than likely your digitizer is broken aswell. If you replaced them as a set, request a new one from wherever you got it, and if you just replaced the LCD, then you need to buy a digitizer aswell.
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Well, I only received the screen. I cant figure out where the digitizer is on the tilt so I don't know if I changed it or not. Does any body have any picture??
I think I read somewhere that it all comes as one piece(the screen and digitizer), but I can't confirm it.
Indeed they most of the time do come as one peice, so if your connection is good on the mobo, then I would say that the digitizer you recieved is bad. The digitzier is the super thin peice of glass that covers the LCD screen.
Hi, i think i have problem with my screen, it's not work anymore, so I decided to reflash device with official Rom. But it didn't work.
Moreover before windows system start for the first time ir requires to tap on screen to boot. So now I cannot use my TytnII at all.
Is it any options to boot it without tapping on screen?
Or just to flash with other ROM, but HARdspl is not installed so a bit afraid to brick my phone. please help
hurdleman said:
Hi, i think i have problem with my screen, it's not work anymore, so I decided to reflash device with official Rom. But it didn't work.
Moreover before windows system start for the first time ir requires to tap on screen to boot. So now I cannot use my TytnII at all.
Is it any options to boot it without tapping on screen?
Or just to flash with other ROM, but HARdspl is not installed so a bit afraid to brick my phone. please help
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install hardspl (same procedure as flashing) and then install rom of your choise if it dosn't work have you done any of the following
dropped it in water
gone in the washing machine
etc.... stuff like that
why don't you get a new digitizer??? it's $10 for kaiser?? i've been changing them like underwear...every half a year.
what is it, what's asking you to click on screen? if it's just a welcome screen, put welcome.not file in root.
papo said:
why don't you get a new digitizer??? it's $10 for kaiser?? i've been changing them like underwear...every half a year.
what is it, what's asking you to click on screen? if it's just a welcome screen, put welcome.not file in root.
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hehehe funny expression 'changing them like [email protected]
what do you only change your underwear 2 a year
hehe, i live in Lithuania, so price with shipping will be around 25$. I think this isn't very cheap. Finally got screen working, but after 30min of using again no respond to tapping, then again working fine, and after that again no. it's annoying. I think it's problem with digitizer? I haven't it dropped to water, it almost brand new
hurdleman said:
hehe, i live in Lithuania, so price with shipping will be around 25$. I think this isn't very cheap. Finally got screen working, but after 30min of using again no respond to tapping, then again working fine, and after that again no. it's annoying. I think it's problem with digitizer? I haven't it dropped to water, it almost brand new
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thats good you got it working
hope the problem doesn't happen again
if we assume the problem is harware, it would most likely by at one of two spots.
place, where the ribbon cable is soldered to lcd
or place where two piecies of digitiizer are connnected to each other.
might help if you check on the ribbon and glue a plastic tape all around the edge of digitizer, making it press little bit more on it
well, if that's hw probllem. but first you shoud try different rom. you can reflash without digitizer working. and check for pocket controller or similar if you want you can control pda from pc with it. there are two free and Pocket contr is trial.
if you just want to bypass the "tap here to use your device" message on the first boot up, search for "welcome.not".
create a blank file named "welcome.not" and place it in the root of your sd card and then power on the device for first boot up.
make sure it is a blank file. make sure it is named EXACTLY "welcome.not". if you are doing this with your windows pc, make sure you have turned off "hide file extensions of known file types". otherwise, the file might actually be named "welcome.not.txt" but might show as "welcome.not" on your pc.
search about it for more information.
hi, have tried differnt rom, but problem still persist. screen is not working, but sometimes it starts working very well. but most of the time it not respond. when backlight goes out and touch screen it starts to light but can't touch any options on. So what can be the problem, only digitezer or whole screen?
it was more probable it would be hw. but we need to eliminate all possibilities and reflash was easiest.
Still there is more things which could be the problem.
And there is no way to tell for sure what is it.
Did you say the pda is new? or digitizer?
And then you said when backlight goes off, digitizer will stop working, but still reacting on touch (to light the backlight) Is this right?
When will it stop / start working? Does it change if you press on body - case?
Does it change if you slide keyboard out or in?
There would be a short test each time pda/screen is powered, if digitizer fails in this test, it would be ignored till next test pass. Could this be your case?
digitizer could be broken on corner, or has bad contact inside
- You can test it, if you'll solder test wires on it and measure resistance, which should be around 500 ohms without touch and going down on each touch, can't go higher! test for both H & V
but the same reaction could be if ribbon cable connecting two parts of kaiser is broken (or connector on mobo side)
but if it's new it shouldn't.
and at last there could be problem on mobo. inside the controller chip or on it's connection, soldering. But not very probable.
It definitely looks like bad connection somewhere. You need to find out where, so you'll not buy digitizer if it's good or ribbon cable.
Put plastic tape around digitizer inside, as I wrote before, inspect ribbon cable and digitizer and it's connections. Try to locate event when it goes wrong.
If you'll not open it and check on these things, then maybe get a new part which will show bad, then I don't see how more we could help you.
You can use it without touch screen somehow or get a new phone.
Digitizer is US$8 with shipping to Lithuania. That's really cheap, even for us from central european countries.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HTC-P4450-Ka...m&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5192adf317#shId
and ribbon cable have fair price too,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Flex-Cable-R...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cadad06a3
papo very informative
All i want to add is that it's easier to replace the whole screen with a digitizer already on as the digitizer is very hard to remove since glued to the glass more than likely will get wrecked and not able to replace new, whereas full kit wont cost a lot more and will be less stress just 4 screws on the back plate of Tilt "where sim door is".
Well, it is not new, i've bought it from one girl, but it's like brand new, no scratching at all, very good condition.
also, yesterday i checked all the connection inside it, but the problem persisted.
I think I have understood what kind off problem it is...when remove sim card it stars to work perfectly. When insert sim, it work some time very well. Then again screen start not to respond, any ideas?
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Well, it is not new, i've bought it from one girl, but it's like brand new, no scratching at all, very good condition.
also, yesterday i checked all the connection inside it, but the problem persisted.
I think I have understood what kind off problem it is...when remove sim card it stars to work perfectly. When insert sim, it work some time very well. Then again screen start not to respond, any ideas?
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mm, I know some pretty good spells, but you need a magic wand to make them work. If you don't have any you need to:
tape the screen as I wrote before (half millimeter tape),
if no help, hardwire analog multimeter on digitizer and test it properly (while pda off and open) as I wrote before
tape bended paper across connector on mobo.
OR just get a new digitizer straight away. it's $8 and pretty good chance that it's the issue. it's maybe 50% chance but what I mean is:
You have $200 phone (now on market) let's assign it 200 points
It's working on 20% with digitizer broken, now you have 40 points
digitizer 8 points to add. With 50% chance to fix = 16 points to add
result: by adding 16 points you gain 160 (200 - 40) that's 10x gain = good risk
WTF with my screen? post photos. on the first my screen, on the second lcd screens which are beiing sold on ebay.
I decided to buy new digitizer, but when looked at my screen, it realized have completely different layout where digitizer is connecting to screen. Am i right? Is the digitizers which are sold on ebay will suit my screen?
that's fine. they all work. They are not oem but works well. Maybe not so scratch resistive.
You may get the digitizer solo, but they will not include a special double side tape which goes around and is holding it together. You can make that tape, but it's pain as stylez said. A lot of cleaning the used old one, then cutting small strips of ds-tape. and you need to put a paper or something in between two layers of tape as you need a little space in between. And then soldering that ribbon. Better just get whole assembly.
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I see you tried that tape, before you buy it, try the last thing. The place where digitizer is soldered to lcd modul.
On that piece you sent photo of, you need to open back cover.
check the picture:
1. peel off antistatic tape from connector, from up -> down
2. take cover off
3. there will be attachment of digitizer behind the cover, like on your second picture.
Check for good connection
AND
check if soldered pins could not be touching the back cover you took off
( i had this problem once)
put electric tape accross it a give it a try - that will isolate it from back cover & make a little pressure if bad connection
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