When listening to MP3 music on my Tilt, I hear an annoying glitch or blip (albeit brief) which occurs every (approx) 3-4 minutes. Though it can be heard thru the Tilt's built in speaker too, it's most evident when heard thru headphones connected via MiniUSB to 3.5" stereo adapter.
If I go back and replay the same musical passage where the glitch occurred, the glitch isn't heard, so the problem isn't in the MP3 file. In addition to playing the music utilizing Windows Media Player, I also installed 3rd party media player: "Pocket Player 3.5" and maximized the audio buffer settings, but this made no difference/improvement.
Considering the fact that a number of other 8925 Tilt owners have also reported the same problem, while prior model 8525 owners report they don't experience this problem, suggests that the 8925 Tilt may possess a unique software/hardware issue (bug?) which needs to be addressed and rectified. This said, are any HTC Kaiser/TyTnII owners experiencing this?
I encourage At&t Tilt & HTC Kaiser TyTnII owners who enjoy listening to music on their Tilt, to please take time to critically listen to music (MP3's) on your phone and report YOUR findings.
Thanks for your input,
Jazz
No problems with stereo at all-even with bluetooth stereo-not talking about calls-stereo definetly not an issue here. sorry, but cannot repro your issue. Have a 4 gig SD card with 3 gigs of tunes that I listen to all the time, no issue like you report.
Alemaker, first of all, great to hear you're not experiencing music playback problems on your Tilt. That said . . .
The problem I'm experiencing has nothing to do with stereo at all, but a glitch (blip or skip sound) heard every 3-4 minutes while listening to MP3 music. It's most evident heard thru headphones (connected to Tilt utilizing a usb to 3.5" stereo adapter) but can also be detected when played directly via the Tilt's built in speaker as well.
Here are a couple of links to threads on the AT&T- HTC forum where others have reported this same problem:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=62213
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=67032
Jazz
jazzman-t said:
When listening to MP3 music on my Tilt, I hear an annoying glitch or blip (albeit brief) which occurs every (approx) 3-4 minutes. Though it can be heard thru the Tilt's built in speaker too, it's most evident when heard thru headphones connected via MiniUSB to 3.5" stereo adapter.
If I go back and replay the same musical passage where the glitch occurred, the glitch isn't heard, so the problem isn't in the MP3 file. In addition to playing the music utilizing Windows Media Player, I also installed 3rd party media player: "Pocket Player 3.5" and maximized the audio buffer settings, but this made no difference/improvement.
Considering the fact that a number of other 8925 Tilt owners have also reported the same problem, while prior model 8525 owners report they don't experience this problem, suggests that the 8925 Tilt may possess a unique software/hardware issue (bug?) which needs to be addressed and rectified. This said, are any HTC Kaiser/TyTnII owners experiencing this?
I encourage At&t Tilt & HTC Kaiser TyTnII owners who enjoy listening to music on their Tilt, to please take time to critically listen to music (MP3's) on your phone and report YOUR findings.
Thanks for your input,
Jazz
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I admit, I have noticed this also. And yes, its not a glitch with the song. The files are fine. It's seems more like a time-based issue, or perhaps a buffering issue.
And yes, I noticed it with the HTC audio player, WMP, and PocketPlayer. It doesn't bother me much, but I definitely notice it, like you say, every 3-4 min or so. And it happens with BT A2DP or with wired headphones. It is very brief (like not even 100 ms.). I'm reading all my music from a 6GB Sandisk Class 4 MicroSD card. But it happened with my old 2GB MicroSD card also.
Try this. Lately, using PocketPlayer, I haven't noticed it as much. I set the cross-fade on for 4 seconds, and I don't think it happens as much if at all. This again leads me to think it's something to do with buffering...But I have no idea. It does bother me slightly, but not enough to get concerned about. I mostly listen to music while I'm working out, so I just ignore it...
jazzman-t said:
Alemaker, first of all, great to hear you're not experiencing music playback problems on your Tilt. That said . . .
The problem I'm experiencing has nothing to do with stereo at all, but a glitch (blip or skip sound) heard every 3-4 minutes while listening to MP3 music. It's most evident heard thru headphones (connected to Tilt utilizing a usb to 3.5" stereo adapter) but can also be detected when played directly via the Tilt's built in speaker as well.
Here are a couple of links to threads on the AT&T- HTC forum where others have reported this same problem:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=62213
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&thread.id=67032
Jazz
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Just not happening for me, but I know exactly what you mean. Skipping at regular intervals. I'll listen closer,but haven't heard it yet. Doesn't mean it's not happening on some sets-just not on all
Could Music Playback Glitch be tied to specific OS ROM Version?
Realizing the fact now that some Tilt owners are experiencing the problem whiles others aren't, is making me wonder if perhaps the problem may have to do with what specific OS (Rom version) is installed on your Tilt:
My AT&T Tilt's OS version is:
Rom version: 1.57.502.2
Rom date: 8/25/07
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
Alemaker & jomo25: curious to know what OS (ROM version) is installed on your Tilt?
ROM check procedure:
Start > Settings > System Tab > Device Information
Thanks, Jazz
I also get this on my v1615. Not as often as every 3-4 minutes, but if I listen to a whole album it will happen a couple of times. I'd say the first time it happens would be around the 4 minute mark though as it usually skips in the first or second track.
Rom version: 1.56.161.4
Rom date: 9/12/07
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
I get this too on my Vario III. It's not quite long enough to be annoying, but it is enough to be noticeable.
I've only been using the HTC media player and assumed it was a problem with that. Apparently not though.
if you use pocket player.... under advanced optiones, set decoder priority above normal to see if it helps!
I get the blip too! Ever so slightly annoying, but releived its not just my Kaiser.
T-Mobile Vario III
ROM version: 1.56.110.4
ROM Date: 09.01.07
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
Same Issue Here
I also have the same problem with brief skips during MP3/WMA playback.
Since my Tilt was running the HTC WWE Ship Rom within 15 minutes of arriving, I cannot say if the problem exists on the stock AT&T rom.
However, I have experienced this issue on the WWE HTC rom, austinsync's BIGstorage rom, and XDA-Live 1.0 rom.
Could it possibly be an issue with the pagepool size?
Are you listening to music that 'mixes' in to the next track such as dance music? For some reason there has always been a glitch as it starts the next song, no matter what player or ROM. The only answer i found was to convert the whole album to 1 single track.
johnk1973 said:
Are you listening to music that 'mixes' in to the next track such as dance music? For some reason there has always been a glitch as it starts the next song, no matter what player or ROM. The only answer i found was to convert the whole album to 1 single track.
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I have about 70 songs from a bunch of different artists. I usually hear the "gap" at random times in random songs, but never near the beginning or end of a track.
I'm having the same problem with my Tilt with the stock ROM and using TCPMP. Can't say as it bothers me much, but it is happening.
jazzman-t said:
Rom version: 1.57.502.2
Rom date: 8/25/07
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
Alemaker & jomo25: curious to know what OS (ROM version) is installed on your Tilt?
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Stock TyTN II ROM
ROM version: 1.56.405.5
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio: 1.27.12.11
Protocol: 22.45.88.07W
Same problem here. In audio manager and WMP
Stock TyTN II ROM
ROM version: 1.81.861.0 WWE
ROM date: 09/12/07
Radio Version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol version: 22.45.88.07H
I'll contribute some information. I have a stock AT&T tilt and I get this problem with the HTC Audio Manager I installed and with the newest version of CorePlayer.
jomo25 said:
Stock TyTN II ROM
ROM version: 1.56.405.5
ROM date: 08/28/07
Radio: 1.27.12.11
Protocol: 22.45.88.07W
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Alemaker-
Tilt XDA-Live v 1.0
sorry, still not having issues, can't repro this at all
I had that problem on my TyTN II! But I fixed it eventually.
Mine was caused by S2U2. After a couple of seconds S2U2 would activate even while playing music. That caused the glitch in sound. I simply removed S2U2 and that solved it.
Hope this helps you!
TILT "Skipping Sound"
I am experiencing "Skipping" sound too, VERY ANNOYING. We should have brought a Nokia 95 (Unlock) or IPhone. Learn and live. Owners of the IPhone and Nokia 95 are not having audio skipping problem. There is a design flaw in the circuit. Remember the Tilt is "First" generation. We will have to wait for Tilt version IX for the audio to be skip free.
The Solution: Buy an ITouch for X'mas. The audio is "PERFECT".
Frustrated Audiophile,
steve
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I have a Cingular 8125 currently flashed to the 2.17 ROM. I am mainly wondering if anyone has installed the 2.08/2.87 (whichever you prefer) ROM. I just wanted to see how the well the ROM performance is compared to 2.17...are there any problems in it that aren't problems in 2.17? Is it worth upgrading to?(when I have a stereo headset obviously)....thanks
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Centurion said:
I have a Cingular 8125 currently flashed to the 2.17 ROM. I am mainly wondering if anyone has installed the 2.08/2.87 (whichever you prefer) ROM. I just wanted to see how the well the ROM performance is compared to 2.17...are there any problems in it that aren't problems in 2.17? Is it worth upgrading to?(when I have a stereo headset obviously)....thanks
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Stick with 2.17 unless you need A2DP. 2.08 (honestly I don't know why folks report 2.87 since on mine it reports properly as 2.08) is based on a pre-release AKU2 update (which is essentially a beta service pack) but people who want A2DP are ok with that and I haven't heard any complaints about the core OS.
Depends
I was definitely a fan of 2.17. Very fast, all the great AKU2 goodies (except a2dp). But once I got my Moto HT820 bluetooth headphones, I had to go with 2.08. 2.08 I not as fast as 2.17, but it has A2DP and it works GREAT! It's really amazing how good the audio sounds. One thing I noticed is when using my HT820 headphones and watching a windows media VIDEO, audio and video sync was messed up, due to performance hits from A2DP. But with good old overclocking through OmapClock, no more out of sync audio and video. MP3 playback with Windows Media and using A2DP was smooth and great sounding. I don't notice any faster battery draining, as long as the screen is off.
BTW, thanks SUMMITER! Your work on bringing us those Cingular Roms is much appreciated.
Re: Depends
apaje said:
I was definitely a fan of 2.17. Very fast, all the great AKU2 goodies (except a2dp). But once I got my Moto HT820 bluetooth headphones, I had to go with 2.08. 2.08 I not as fast as 2.17, but it has A2DP and it works GREAT! It's really amazing how good the audio sounds. One thing I noticed is when using my HT820 headphones and watching a windows media VIDEO, audio and video sync was messed up, due to performance hits from A2DP. But with good old overclocking through OmapClock, no more out of sync audio and video. MP3 playback with Windows Media and using A2DP was smooth and great sounding. I don't notice any faster battery draining, as long as the screen is off.
BTW, thanks SUMMITER! Your work on bringing us those Cingular Roms is much appreciated.
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Just curious, which clock speed gave you good results w/ A2DP? Was 240 sufficient?
Does the 2.08 ROM include AVRCP? I really appreciate the comments, I wanted to make sure I wasn't going to jump into buying the Moto's for no reason...but thanks for the overclocking tip, I probably wouldn't have thought of that.
Summiter, I'm sure you've hear it 1000+ times, but thanks for releasing these ROM's...There are only so many people here who know how to make them, so thanks for being an active contributor.
Overclock speed for good A2DP
I just tried several clock speeds and it seems like 228 is the minimum speed for me. The videos I am testing are WMA9 videos. I think 240 is probably a better speed as I saw a few occasional hiccups at 228. Also, I tried Real media player and had a similar issue with out of sync audio and video at the default clock speed using A2DP. When I was using the 2.17 ROM, I used BlueCast to send normal headset audio through when watching WMA9 videos and didn't notice any hiccups at the default clock speed, so A2DP definitely is resource intensive. Anyone out there know how to really benchmark how much CPU process or memory A2DP uses?
i keep having to correct people on this.
the ROM is actually the 2.8.7 rom, where as the IPL/SPL IS 2.08. apparently in software they like to add 10 or higher in build numbers. so 2.16/2.17 is higher than 2.8.7. if you actually look at the rom version, it reports:
2.8.7.1
Where the 2.16/2.17 rom will show 2.17.
i don't know why people call it the 2.08 rom when that's the IPL/SPL version. sigh.
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Centurion said:
I have a Cingular 8125 currently flashed to the 2.17 ROM. I am mainly wondering if anyone has installed the 2.08/2.87 (whichever you prefer) ROM. I just wanted to see how the well the ROM performance is compared to 2.17...are there any problems in it that aren't problems in 2.17? Is it worth upgrading to?(when I have a stereo headset obviously)....thanks
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Just loaded 2.08 because i needed a2dp for my bsh-100 anycom stereo headset. Headset works beatifully. No problems to report.
apparently you don't know how to read....
middler
I have the same Headset , but sound drops out permanently.
have you really no problem with the Anycom Headset?
darkjedi...I think by this point people have been calling it the 2.08 ROM for so long that it just makes it easier to refer to it as that....Is it wrong? Yes. But who cares?........2.08, 2.87, it's all the same...its got an 8 and it has A2DP...what else matters?
Oh, one more question...So I have the 2.17 ROM...and if I were to downgrade/upgrade(?) to the 2.08 ROM, how would I go about doing that? Unlock my phone both ways using lockiwiz and then run the 2.08 rom on the FTP? If I'm wrong, please tell me before I create a cool looking brick. 8)
sigh, people's ignorance and lack of intellegence really astounds me. why don't we just shorten EVERYTHING because we're too damn lazy to do anything about it?? start everything with u and r and 2 and 4. it really shames me at how many people have murdered the english language because they are too damn lazy to say the real word. i'll excuse foreigners as they don't know the language too well; but seriously, people born in this country have gotten ridiculously more retarded as the years have passed. and really, saying 2.08 and 2.87 is the exact same thing, have the exact same number of digits, so why is it so damned hard to say 2.87 when that's what it actually is? maybe everyone should start saying 1+1 = 6 just because they want to.
duri
Been using for two days, and has worked flawlessly.
duri
Been using for two days, and has worked flawlessly.
Hey looking to see if anyone else is having this problem?
I have the Samsung SBH500
And I've read up on other issues with this but this seems to be a bit odd.
Most people put the cause up to having both the Handsfree and Wireless Stereo on at the same time or when the phone is changing cell towers.
Well mine skips when it's just connected to Wireless Stereo although not as often as when both are connected. Also I know I'm not changing cell towers because I'm not even moving and right now have no reception anyway. Also happens in areas when I do have reception but not moving.
Anyone know a fix for this?
Edit: Distance does not seem to affect the skipping. As in, I do not think that moving around is causing this problem cos i just walked into the other room with headset and could still here it.. Just every so often it will cut out for a few seconds. A bit annoying when you're listening to your favourite song is on and it cuts out the best parts...
Headset also works flawlessly on my PC, laptop and other mobile phone.
Edit again: Using Dutty's latest 6.1 ROM and application used to run the music is HTC Audio Manager
Sometimes it will run smoothly, sometimes will just skip for a few seconds and then run smooth again, other times it will constantly skip for seconds at a time and you hear your music in random words.
I have the Sony MEX-BT2500 which has the A2DP audio push and hands free. Both are on while I drive and I get an occasional minor skip every 10 minutes or so - which I guess is considered normal?.
Check the device's partnership settings in the Bluetooth Wireless Manager. Try deleting the partnership and re-associating it with your device.
You might also want to consider the patch in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284974
It seems to work on the TyTN, might work with the TyTN II too.
Good luck.
The only time I've noticed mine skipping is when I try to send a text message while it's playing or a very brief hiccup when I hit the power button to turn the screeen on/off.
In my experience BT Audio playback skips when I have WiFi on at the same time or I am opening a big program / file. Otherwise I have no skips. I am using my aging Motorola HT820 to stream music via A2DP.
Thanks guys for your replies but I figured it out.
Using the Advanced Config, which I guess is just Dutty's version of KaiserTweak, I changed the bitpool to 72 from 64.
Now it's working flawlessly.
Haven't noticed any real lag in the phone since doing that so yeah. Might work at a lower rate.
This setting is also on KaiserTweak if you don't have Advanced Config.
Other values may work that are lower, I just went straight to 72 and was happy with it. Too lazy to test lower cos requires too much Soft Resetting and I'm not patient enough hehe.
Also Jimmyy - I saw that thread but didn't think it would make a difference as Tytn uses WM5 whereas I'm on WM6.1. Figured any software issues in WM5 would be fixed for WM6. Thanks anyway mate.
I just wanted to add that I set my bitpool to low using kaiser tweak, and finally my Motorola S9's became useful instead of near useless.
Surur
I've looked everywhere on this site and maybe I meissed it but I have a jawbone 2 and this is actually my second jawbone through warranty , when I call someone or when someone calls me my jawbone headset brakes up and sounds like im out of range, when I put the jawbone a inche from my tilt then it works perfect .... I need a software patch or something and if this is a subject that has already been resloved please send me the link.
Hope this helps..
I have a newish kaiser and a jawbone2. I flashed several roms, several radios, always ended up finding an issue somewhere, the most recent being the exact persormance issues you've mentioned with the bt/hset.
I'm now using the following, with absolutely zero problems and wonderful quality hands-free, even whilst driving the car @ 70mph with music playing.
Setup:
-rom version: 3.28.61.0. wwe
-rom date: 05/02/08
-radio: 1.65.28.25
-protocol: 25.98.40.07h
It's an updated version of the stock orangeuk rom which came with the device.
Good luck.
Im new to all of this how do I get that on my device?
I'm not comfortable enough with it to explain it myself, so I'll leave it to the experts.
Try here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Hi-
I've been trying to debug this issue for about 2-3 months now.
I'm using this ROM on my Kaiser:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496555
As you'll see I posted a lot of activity on that thread regarding music skipping. To avoid continuing to clobber that thread, I'm opening this new one.
Currently I'm using Shifu's V10 ROM on that page and the recommended Radio that he is using.
Here's the jist of my problem: I've probably tried 10 or so different M2D ROMs from various cooks in the last couple of months. I don't know if my problem is M2D related, but with all of these, whether I'm using HTC Audio Manager or S2P, music doesn't skip with Motorola HT820 headphones which is good. However, when I'm in my car and connected to *two* devices at once via bluetooth (built in car kit for phone calls, audio gateway for music), I get the intermittent music skip.
I've tried *everything*:
- different ROMs
- Messed with advanced config bitpool settings, OBEX, etc
- FAT32 format of my SD card
- soft reset, killing all running apps before playing music
- turning off all power management of the screen and the device
- trying to let the music play in the car by itself without changing songs
I never used to have this skip issue with an old Dutty ROM I used. That ROM was Dutty's Hybrid V2 that had radio 1.65.14.06. This ROM wasn't a M2D ROM though as it's older.
I guess it could be coincidental that rather than being a new radio/ROM issue, that maybe I'm experiencing hardware issues with the audio gateway or something (it's been out in the sun and has gotten hot a couple times). I guess I can maybe try going back to Dutty's Radio, but I don't know what affects that may have on this current, newer ROM.
If anyone can help please let me know! This is the *only* issue I've been having with this new ROM (which I don't even know if it's ROM-specific or just radio related or HW combination).
Thanks a lot,
David
I think it's solved
power lines are doing it....
davidisflash said:
Hi-
I've been trying to debug this issue for about 2-3 months now.
I'm using this ROM on my Kaiser:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=496555
As you'll see I posted a lot of activity on that thread regarding music skipping. To avoid continuing to clobber that thread, I'm opening this new one.
Currently I'm using Shifu's V10 ROM on that page and the recommended Radio that he is using.
Here's the jist of my problem: I've probably tried 10 or so different M2D ROMs from various cooks in the last couple of months. I don't know if my problem is M2D related, but with all of these, whether I'm using HTC Audio Manager or S2P, music doesn't skip with Motorola HT820 headphones which is good. However, when I'm in my car and connected to *two* devices at once via bluetooth (built in car kit for phone calls, audio gateway for music), I get the intermittent music skip.
I've tried *everything*:
- different ROMs
- Messed with advanced config bitpool settings, OBEX, etc
- FAT32 format of my SD card
- soft reset, killing all running apps before playing music
- turning off all power management of the screen and the device
- trying to let the music play in the car by itself without changing songs
I never used to have this skip issue with an old Dutty ROM I used. That ROM was Dutty's Hybrid V2 that had radio 1.65.14.06. This ROM wasn't a M2D ROM though as it's older.
I guess it could be coincidental that rather than being a new radio/ROM issue, that maybe I'm experiencing hardware issues with the audio gateway or something (it's been out in the sun and has gotten hot a couple times). I guess I can maybe try going back to Dutty's Radio, but I don't know what affects that may have on this current, newer ROM.
If anyone can help please let me know! This is the *only* issue I've been having with this new ROM (which I don't even know if it's ROM-specific or just radio related or HW combination).
Thanks a lot,
David
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Try another RADIO, when you flash a ROM, the wrong radio could cause music to skip, the camera not to work and just overall silly perfomance. You can search XDA for the Ultimate Radio page which has AlLLLLLLLLL of them. Good Luck....
Device Information:
Operator Version: Unlocked
ROM Version: Ultimate-x2.v11 WWE
ROM Date: 02/30/09
Radio Version: 1.71.09.01
Protocol Version: 25.75.40.02.eMoh
ExitROM Version: Premium
Hi, I would appreciate if someone could shed some light on this problem
I get no sound from my Kaiser at Random.
This problem began to happen with my Old RaphaelIII ROM..I do not know which SPL or what radio I had before. (But Im sure it was the one Recommended on the thread.) The phone had run with that ROM for about 6 Months without any sound issues.
I upgraded to ROM Ultimate-v2 because of the sound issue. The symptoms are the same with the new ROM as the old one. I don't think the problem is isolated to the new ROM, that's why I did not post this on the Ultimate-v2 Thread.
I have left the phone playing an mp3 tune on a table, and the sound comes on and off by itself for no apparent reason. the problem includes both speakers. And when I make a phone call I can't hear the other person and they can't hear me neither. The phone does vibrate consistently tho.
Thanks.
Btw Someone here is having the same problem
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556339
Edit:
I tested the phone with a bluetooth headset while the sound was gone. I was able to hear and speak fine trough it.
Edit:
I installed another rom and sound is working fine now. but everything else is crappy. this phone sucks.
no sound randomly
Hi there,
I have the same problem.
Mine started after the htc official upgrade from 6.0 to 6.1.
since then intermitted sound during calls (other side can't hear me, i hear them perfectly)
still searching forums on what to do.
spl:3.34dave
radio: varies on ROM (recommended radio)
I have a problem like that. No solution just posting so I can find this post later.
Usually happens to me when I am listing to music and I pull out my head phones.
Speaker sound goes out and when I plug back in the headphones they are also dead.
Ear speaker on calls still works.
Was using WMP to listen to music but switch to S2P a few days ago.
Has not happened since the switch but that may be a coincidence.
Stock 6.1 with ATT stuff stripped.
I have a similar problem to crowbar. Some calls the person on the other end of the line can hear me, some calls they can't. I can hear them perfectly. It' been happening for a few months now. I'm on stock Orange 6.1 (obtained from here). Just bought a cheap Samsung phone to use for now, until I can, hopefully, find a solution. I'm ythinking of trying some of the 6.5 ROMS to see if that cures it.
ROM 3.28.61.0.WWE
Radio 1.65.16.25