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Hello all,
I just got my AT&T Tilt and love it so far, except for one major annoyance. When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes. The problem is when it's in my pocket, it can accidentally call people. My 8125 and 8525 did not experience this issue.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Button lock
It sounds as though the phone isn't set to lock all buttons except the power button when it is in standby. This happened to me last time I re-flashed my Wizard, and I couldn't figure out for ages why my battery was draining so quickly as well!
Settings > Buttons > Lock
Hmm, not seeing any option under Buttons or Lock. I do remember this setting from WM5. It does appear, however, that the buttons are not turning the phone on, it's just waking up even if I leave it on a desk.
You can add lock to the home screen
first press and hold the hang-up button so that it locks. Then just push the power button once. This puts it in standby.
There is a idle timeout for going on standby mode, but I can't find a setting to auto-lock.
JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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Are you paired to a Bluetooth device? I see similar behavior in my 8525 when in my car - the BT car kit does stuff which "wakes" the 8525
Richard
Try this leaving Google Maps On the Screen
Hi Guys,
I get this behavior when I have Google Maps running. It will even cycle the screen on and off a couple times.
nope and nope. just sitting on the today screen.
JBHorne said:
When I press the power button, the device will turn the screen back on after a few seconds to a few minutes.
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I have the very same problem.
However, my girlfriend whom I also bought a Tilt for, her's doesn't do it.
We've installed all the same software too, so I'm a little puzzled.
start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
rzanology said:
start>settings>system> key lock. set it to lock all buttons except power.
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Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
JonRick said:
Hmmm.. yeah, umm my key lock is already set to lock all buttons except power.
The problem isn't with when you press a button it comes on. The problem is the phone turns on by itself, sitting on a table, nothing being pressed, no new email, no new sms, just lights up and that's it.
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Any number of applications might be starting the device, from weather apps to calendar, diary, time sync etc etc. For example, HTCs weather app will do it depending on how often you have it set to another example I came across from someone was TREO ALERTS that contains a script "refresh.mscr" and it was set up refresh time 30 seconds (this was turning his TyTn II on by itself).
Mike
hard reset and try again.
i'm betting that none of these suggestions were helpful (except the one about some application generating a wakeup event without any other visual notifications).
i was having the same problem, but i just tried to narrow down which running program was causing the events. it's one of:
* wireless manager
* messaging
* IM
my guess is IM; i'm going to test that out in a second.
well, it's none of the above. still seems to wake up randomly anywhere from 15 seconds to several minutes.
seems to happen more frequently when it's just been turned off.
Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
dscline said:
Even if you were to find what was turing the phone back on, this can still be a problem just from normal use... obviously, you WANT the phone to turn on for things like a call coming in. The solution for people like us who stick our phones in our pockets is to "lock" the phone. But for whatever reason, the Tilt doesn't lock the phone while holding down the end key. That means the only convenient way to lock it is to keep the lock function on the today screen, wasting space. Hopefully someone can find a way to allow the end key to lock the device on the Tilt just like the unbranded device.
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i'm fine with using the lock function, but it still turns on randomly, using battery, and eventually unnecessarily yellowing the screen from backlight aging. my next approach is to check out the notification queue, using a notification cleaner app.
So i am having a similar problem. When i press the power button, the phone's screen turns off but when the keyboard slides, it turns back on... is there a way to make it so the keyboard sliding does not turn on the device? I think the keyboard slides around a little when in my pocket and i hate pushing 3 buttons to unlock my phone... thanks
I was having the same problem.
This is an issue with the ATT rom. Flash over HTC rom and you will be all set.
I have been having the same problem as well. I just installed this DeviceLock program:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305402
If you enable the "Lock on Wake" option, the device will be locked when it wakes up, so the backlight stays off and you won't call anyone by accidentally hitting buttons.
Also, I ran across this related thread you might want to check out (basically talking about the same thing, but for the TyTn II):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341419
Hey guys,
Right, I've come over from symbian, namely UIQ and the SE P-series, so am used to things being somewhat different. The main issue I don't seem to be able to find a solution to is the screen locking problem.
Essentially, at the moment I push the power button to lock the device, as well as enter a power save mode. I have to say, I like the way that works. However, when I recieve a call (or text with the reg fix) the phone comes to life, great, but say I miss the call, or the phone is in my pocket, the screen is now ACTIVE. Not good news.
How am I supposed to lock this device properly? Screen lock and then the power button? Can't I get a simple tap on the power button to lock and power save the device?
Essentially, if I have a missed call or message I just want the phone to vibrate once, then keep an LED flashing intermittently. But I want the screen to stay LOCKED.
Any help would be much appreciated, and thanks for all the other useful tips on the forum!
Cheers,
Daz.
Go start/settings/System/Long Press End Key
Select automatically execute etc
and Lock device
then OK
then, a long press on the hang up button (bottom right) will lock the phone.
Hope that helps
Perhaps I didn't explain myself. I know how to lock the phone, but how do I make use of the power button tap mode? In other words, the power saving mode?
Can I set up a button that locks the phone, AND sends it to power save mode? (or "turn it off" as WM seems to call it).
Thanks again,
Daz.
I found a regedit in:
HKLM\Software\HTC\KeyLock\SameAsDeviceLock
Set it to 1, but it doesn't do the trick. In fact, it now causes the power button click to not lock the keys.
I suppose the only option is to have standby mode come on after a timeout, lock the device, then it will go into standby on its own. Seems like a slight waste of battery to me!
Cheers,
Daz.
I really want this to work too,
It should unlock and turn on when recieving a call, it should just turn on when recieving an sms (so you can have a quick look from who it is, and then unlock to reply)
and when you lock the device it should automatically turn off...
Not EXACTLY what you want, but S2U2 in the "Development and Hacking" section will improve matters for you.
When you turn the phone off with the power button, S2U2 kicks in. Then:
1) If you turn the phone back on, you'll get the slide to unlock screen.
2) If a call comes in, the phone turns on and you see the caller ID (with full screen picture, if you so desire) on a "slide to answer" screen. The S2U2 default settings ensure that the phone turns itself back off again if you fail to answer it.
3) If a text / e-mail / mms comes through, it notifies you but remains off... When you hit the power button, the "slide to unlock" screen will show missed calls, text messages, e-mails (and even the weather if you want...).
Check it out, it's an essential piece of software in my opinion... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381588
Thanks sub69, great recommendation. However, does anyone else get the bug when hitting the "x" in other applications to close them, the status bar (Or task bar) goes all scrambled and looks like the S2U2 status bar.
Shame this isn't built in though, would be nicer to see the TF3D interface rather than a 3rd party one.
Thanks again!
Daz.
Anyone with other suggestions? S2U2 is just a little too buggy at the moment on the diamond...
use "BatteryStatus" from www.chti-tai.info, they have a option for devicelock on wakeup, so even u missed a call, and the screen light up, it is still locked.
somone posted this on other thread.
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Now we don't need any devicelock software with diamond.
If you want automatic lock your diamond you have to change this registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\BackLight\AutoDevic eLockEnable from 0 to 1 and everytime your backlight goes off automatically your device are locked
Sorry for may bad english but i'm italian.
Ciao
Thanks for that reg fix, seems like a good option. There was a new S2U2 version release, 1.5, and that seems to work well for me. Will see how that goes for now...
Cheers guys! Daz.
the reg edit is good, but it doesn't solve the problem of unlocked touchscreen prone to being pressed during incoming call (when scrambling in your pocket to take out the phone)
btw there are several other threads where this problem is addressed and deeply analyzed (without a complete working solution, however...)
dazbradbury take a look at sensorlock, if you have not already.
tI use the standard device lock that comes with WM.
However, it goes back to Today screen everytime after lock.
Can anyone tell me how to stay at the original screen after lock?
Thanks
HTC's LongPressEndKey
go to Settings/System/HTC LongPressEndKey...
i don't know how you can make it stay at the original screen: since WM5, afaik locking has taken you back to the home screen
When I want to lock the device I just give a short press of the button on the top - that switched the device into sleep mode, the screen goes off and all the keys lock. To do that go into settings/keylock and then choose under "when device is off" "lock all buttons except power button".
One short press again on the top button then wakes it up and switches it on and it comes back to the screen you were last in when you switched it off.
Is that what you want?
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When I want to lock the device I just give a short press of the button on the top - that switched the device into sleep mode, the screen goes off and all the keys lock. To do that go into settings/keylock and then choose under "when device is off" "lock all buttons except power button".
One short press again on the top button then wakes it up and switches it on and it comes back to the screen you were last in when you switched it off.
Is that what you want?
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It's not really locked is it? You turn the phone on and it works as normal. Similarly with the screen lock, you just push 'unlock' that appears on the screen and it works as normal. What I need is the device lock as found in settings. I just need it on an icon in my programs list would be good enough.
Pete
Found what I want at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408946&highlight=device+lock
if anybody wants it.
Pete
qwertgfdsa78 said:
tI use the standard device lock that comes with WM.
However, it goes back to Today screen everytime after lock.
Can anyone tell me how to stay at the original screen after lock?
Thanks
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Anyone did resolve this problem? I tought it's me, but have found the same problem here.
Help appreciated!
wizja said:
Anyone did resolve this problem? I tought it's me, but have found the same problem here.
Help appreciated!
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You can try StylusLockPro special designed for locking/unlocking while a running application is active.
I'm used to enter my SIM PIN before the Today screen is displayed. So the X1 connects to the mobile network before you start working with the phone.
But now the X1 starts WM and i have to click manually on the phone settings to enter the PIN. SIM Pin is turned on.
Is there any way to get a "auto SIM PIN screen" on startup?
Actually i forgot to note that i get a PIN Screen on Startup. But just for a few seconds and you cannot type in any number. It then fades and the today screen is displayed. I think there's something going wrong. mh.
Thanks for your advise!
I was wondering the exact same thing. The thing displays for a second then goes into loading today screen leaving you manually starting the SIM PIN screen.
This is a sideeffect of xperiaTweak, it's been discussed here already. A simple search could have given you the answer.
There is no fix for this right now but it should not matter -either you can simply press the green phone-button, then you can type in your PIN, or you just deactivate the PIN-code.
its not xperia tweak,, because the moment i got this phone, i am grumbling about this already... i think its PANELS
I have the same problem exept i used to be able to enter my pincode but now i only get the first 2 numbers then it just "logs on" by itself... i don't think its TweakXperia either coz it worked before and i hade it than to...and when i check the conn manager it says the phone is on, not i flight mode or anything else... so weird!
leobox1 said:
its not xperia tweak,, because the moment i got this phone, i am grumbling about this already... i think its PANELS
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Could be too. This behavior started the moment I installed XperiaTweak so I thought this program is the one to blame.
Maybe it's just to wait for the firmware update. And after all, how often do you softreset your phone? I installed all the programs I need and now it's weeks before I restart the device.
Actually I've installed xperia tweak, but I did not use it. Changed some chache sizes with advanced config.
I think it happened the first time after i allowed Sprite Backup to automatically enter the SIM PIN. But turned that feature off and the programm is not on auto start ... as far as I know.
Ah and I searched the forums and found nothing about sim und pin .
I "soft reset" my phone on most evenings by pressing the On key and selecting to turn the device off. There's no need for the phone to be on standby when I'm sleeping.
I think I'll do a hard reset and take a look when my SIM PIN Menue is disappearing.
I simply removed simlock. I rarely turn the phone off, so there is little chance it would work.
Well there's the difference!
I turn it off more often. Btw, Soft Resets once a day are recommended by SE on their X1 site. To "clean up memory" . hehe
And its quite nasty to go to the PIN menu manually all the time.
I usually just press the call button and the phone brings up the PIN menu. This is quite an easy way I think...you don't have to navigate too much this way.
Dadaism said:
Well there's the difference!
I turn it off more often. Btw, Soft Resets once a day are recommended by SE on their X1 site. To "clean up memory" . hehe
And its quite nasty to go to the PIN menu manually all the time.
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Tell that to my Nokia 1208 I still have somewhere. 7 weeks of battery lifetime and no "memory cleaning"
On topic: WHen the PIN code screen shows up, just type it in and press ok without waiting for a response. On my X1 it usually works, the screen hangs but the PIN gets entered.
Pressing the call button is faster, but still manually.
I did a hard reset on my device and payed some attention to the SIM PIN screen.
After the reset, with no external programms installed (original stock rom) the PIN screen appeared every time, soft reset and complete shut down.
But after I installed the first programms (in this case advanced config and advanced task manager) the SIM PIN screen started to fade away. Surprisingly it seems to be random now. Sometimes the screen fades and the today screen is shown, and on the other side the pin screen stays up until I entered the SIM PIN.
As for today:
Turned mobile phone off over the night.
First start today: SIM PIN screen stayed up.
Soft reset: SIM PIN screen stayed up to.
Yesterday the SIM PIN screen faded away for every Soft reset i made. I've installed a bunch of programms (My_flash, Youtube App, Skyfire, ...).
Until now I have NOT installed Xperia Tweaks! I'll see if the randomness fades with that installed.
Perhaps this occurs, when a programm running in the background causes the (phone) PIN screen to minimize. Sometime it went away when F-Secure wants to update definitions.
No XperiaTweak installed yet and still no SIM PIN screen fade away pattern .
Maybe XperiaTweak also runs in the background on startup, panel switcher or what ever. You could take a look at this .
i noticed that if i start entering the code immediatly after it appears , it is enough time to enter it(6 char) and press enter.Anyway i don't mind pressing the green key once in order to enter PIN
Bump out of curiosity. Is there a solution for this?
Hi there,
Wondering if this is happening for all Diamond2 users or whether my playing around and initial configuration setup for the phone has somehow caused this situation.
When I hold down the Hang-Up/Home key it locks the screen. To enable the screen again I press the first Unlock button on the bottom left and then the Unlock button that pops up to re-enable use of the phone. This is of course normal.
However as my company forces Password protection as part of our Exchange Email policy, a Password is now enabled on the phone. Now holding down the Hang-Up/Home button locks the phone and instantly displays the Password screen (and not the Home screen with any information).
Being a previous Touch Cruise, then Touch Diamond user this has always driven me mad so I install SPB Mobile Shell so whenever I lock the phone it still shows the Home screen with all the information I want to see.
However on the Diamond2 this does not work and any locking of the phone simply displays the Password screen and no information. All I can do is enter the Password to enable phone use again.
I've installed registered versions of SPB Mobile Shell 3, and PocketShield but neither of them get around this problem.
Is anyone else having this problem? I'm trying to work out whether it's something I've done or whether it is all Diamond2's that demonstrate this frustrating behaviour? I've done a number of hard resets and gone back to scratch trying to see if I could get a combination that worked with this...
Appreciate any help so I can get this phone configured to my liking and actually start 'using' it. I know WM6.5 fixes this poor design in the OS.
Cheers.
Its an exchange thing...
The new version of Exchange 2007 forces all information to be hidden. As far as I am aware, there is no way anymore to show this info, especially as TF3D is so tightly integrated now.
Its pretty pointless having Exchange mobile policy on a device designed to protect the mobile information, and then being able to deactivate it, and show all that information you are supposed to be protecting when the device is locked.
BTW, the "versions" of wimo 6.5 that are floating around have been tampered with to remove this limitation. The official versions of ANY 6.1 rom will always hide that info when using exchnage mobile, if the group policy has restricted it.
You could always ask your sysadmin to disable it for your device.
Thanks for the reply and the info here.
I'm not trying to remove the password screen and that's fine with how it is intended to work.
But on my HTC Touch Cruise and my Diamond (both running 6.1 Pro) if I hold down the hang-up key it 'locks' the keys and dims the screen but still shows the home screen. Then after 15mins timeout I'm required to enter the password to access the phone again. During this the screen is always still displaying the home screen with the time, calendar etc.
But on the Diamond2 when I hold down the Hang-up key it locks the phone keys and displays the Password logon screen instantly. To use the phone again for anything, or to see the Home screen - I need to enter the Password.
This can't be the right way the phone is meant to work...?
Basically the 15mins timeout requiring password is 'instant' if I hold the hang-up key.
On my Samsung i600 which runs WM 6.1 I also have Exchange Sync with group policy enforcement of the password protection, but I can just chose "Unlock => Menu => Cancel" and the home menu shows.
But I can write back when my TD2 arrives and see if mine also does the same or if it is only yours.
mine does exactly the same
elmalote said:
On my Samsung i600 which runs WM 6.1 I also have Exchange Sync with group policy enforcement of the password protection, but I can just chose "Unlock => Menu => Cancel" and the home menu shows.
But I can write back when my TD2 arrives and see if mine also does the same or if it is only yours.
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The rom did this out of box. I just flashed the HTC latest diamond rom onto my original diamond as well, and it doesn't show any info either.
thats interesting.
madstyle69 said:
Thanks for the reply and the info here.
I'm not trying to remove the password screen and that's fine with how it is intended to work.
But on my HTC Touch Cruise and my Diamond (both running 6.1 Pro) if I hold down the hang-up key it 'locks' the keys and dims the screen but still shows the home screen. Then after 15mins timeout I'm required to enter the password to access the phone again. During this the screen is always still displaying the home screen with the time, calendar etc.
But on the Diamond2 when I hold down the Hang-up key it locks the phone keys and displays the Password logon screen instantly. To use the phone again for anything, or to see the Home screen - I need to enter the Password.
This can't be the right way the phone is meant to work...?
Basically the 15mins timeout requiring password is 'instant' if I hold the hang-up key.
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The answer there lies with the GPO triggering the simple pin lock from WIMO, rather than a 3rd party lock program.
A little progress...
Think I may have worked something out with this after a bit more playing around.
If I disable TouchFlo 3D and enable just the Device Lock option to show on the standard Today screen, then when I press Device Lock it locks the phone keys and dims the display (but still displays the Today screen info).
So the Device Lock can actually function on the phone as desired - however it appears that the ROM by default has the long press End key mapped to display the password logon screen (and not mapped to the Device Lock function).
Now it comes down to whether the long press End key can be re-mapped in the registry somehow to point to the standard Device Lock function and not the password screen.
I thought I had a way around it by mapping the long press Send key to Device Lock - however this button can only be mapped to installed applications (and not functions) from what I can see.
So any registry experts know of the key I'd need to modify to either re-map the long press End, or map the long press Send to the Device Lock function?
Resolved
Just closing the loop on this thread.
Zenyee Stay Unlock tool can be downloaded which resolves this problem.
It removes the need for a Password prompt for Exchange Group Policy (whilst not affecting the functionality of Exchange email working on the phone).
be VERY carefull!
madstyle69 said:
Just closing the loop on this thread.
Zenyee Stay Unlock tool can be downloaded which resolves this problem.
It removes the need for a Password prompt for Exchange Group Policy (whilst not affecting the functionality of Exchange email working on the phone).
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Modifying the GPO at all on the phone causes a send home signal and can trigger the remote wipe! TRUST me on this.. i triggered the remote wipe and wiped my diamond and the storage card playing around with a few settings in the registry...
Juggles said:
Modifying the GPO at all on the phone causes a send home signal and can trigger the remote wipe! TRUST me on this.. i triggered the remote wipe and wiped my diamond and the storage card playing around with a few settings in the registry...
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I've read countless messages from people using this tool on XDA and on other WM sites I've not yet read anything negative.
But thanks for the info in case I notice something unusual happen with the phone...