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I've got my new Tilt from AT&T a couple of weeks ago. I love it so far!
However, I do have one concern. Five-six times already I saw my phone restart/reboot on its own. Has anyone experienced this? How common is this?
Additional info:
1. I don't believe this is due to any programs I installed: the first reboot occured on the first day before I had a chance to install anything.
2. There seems to be no correlation with the battery charge level, as I saw it happen with a fully charged battery.
3. It doesn't matter how long ago the phone was restarted: at least one restart ocurred within an hour after I rebooted the phone.
4. In most, if not all cases the reboot occurred when I was using Internet Explorer. This might be a coincidence though, as I have been using Internet Explorer most of the time!
And there was nothing unusual about the web sites when the restart occurred: absolutely no pattern, seem to be a totally random event.
What I would like to know, is this something I should simply blame on Microsoft (or Sun Microsystems for that matter) and get used to, or is there something wrong with my particular unit and I should replace it before the 30-day money-back expires?
Thank you!
I only had one random reboot in my month with the Tilt. I was changing views in SPB Imageer and suddenly... POOF! No problems with reboots before that or since then.
You're not alone
I've had the exact same thing happen to my Tilt as well. I have Duttythroy's big rom and I saw two soft-resets on my Tilt within a space of 6 hours a couple of days ago only. That was the first time and its not repeated that since.
I've had it for about a month or so now. The only thing I have "abnormal" on my tilt is that my trusty old SPB Backup that I've had since my good ol' days of XV6600 does not for some reason perform a backup if I set it to save the backed-up file in the memory card. It just hangs!!
So, I have to backup in the main memory, which thanks to the Godly Tilt is still around 130 megs free after 30 or so various program installs, and then move the file over to the memory card.
If anyone out there has some pointers suggestion for me to resolve this, I'll appreciate it.
AJ
Never seen a spontaneous reboot in 2 months or constant use. I use Spb Backup daily to microSD never a problem, check for latest version is all I can suggest.
Three weeks old unlocked TyTN II with stock WWE ROM. No hangs or resets.
never had a random reset
hey,
I've had my tilt for approx 1 1/2 months and never had a random reset. You might want to take it back and exchage it just for piece of mind. Just my 0.02.
Automatic reset? I cant remember one ...
never happened to me before
I had it happen to me on my VarioIII after only 10 mins! i wasn't even using it as I'd put it in my pocket. I only noticed because i felt the small vibrate as it reboots. I never had a single thing installed. It's never happened to me again though (as far as i know) in the last 4 weeks.
Thanks to everyone who replied! Sounds like it might be a good idea to replace the phone. My only fear is that the new one will have some other issues. But since majority of the users seem to be happy with their phones, I guess it's worth a risk!
Thanks again!
Spontaneous reboot? Never. Are you sure you didn't get one with Palm OS on it?
LOL.
My experience
I have had my Tilt for about 2 month. I have a lot of apps installed and reg. tweaks. I have had one or two freezes that required soft resets and zero spontaneous hard resets. Your situation sounds like mine with my old HTC pda2k - hard resets all the freakin time. Some on that unit were cuased by a defective high capacity battery, some not. I would definitely return it for exchange.
3 Kaisers in a row rebooting!!!
I bought a Kaiser a few weeks ago and have had 3 of them swapped and they all do the same thing. They reboot randomly throughout the day sometimes every half hour. I returned it for a credit and am sticking to my trusted Jasjam. Very dissapointing!!!
Also the keyboard keys are a lot stiffer than the jasjam making it very slow and tiring to type on compared to Jasjam (Hermes).
Cheers.
Htc Tytn II for 3 month and never had a problem.
no problem here
neither me had ever such a this problem .
i think my friend you must check for any 3rd party app you have installed in your phone..do a hard reset first to try it clean of any other software..
if it'snt something like this,you have to return it back to store for send it to service to fix it or replace it with a new one
Make sure the battery cover is completely secure. The only time I had an issue I discovered that the cover was loose.
stock att rom with the bloatware...no hangs no re-starts.
Well, two days ago I went back to AT&T and replaced my Tilt. So far so good: no restarts!!!
Never had this problem either. Using Dutty's V3 final rom.
Have my att tilt for over a week now and i noticed I need to perform soft reset at least twice a day. I am not sure if that's normal but I think it's annoying since I rely on it for reminders. This morning I had to do a soft reset because it froze during the night. I am not sure if I want to use it as alarm clock.
I am using the Dutty's V4 RTM and Radio 1.27.12.11.
Is there something I can do or do i need to get used to it?
Other than that and the bluetooth not working with my infiniti g35, i love it.
No problems for me, never had to do an softreset because of freezing up. Only because of my battery problem.
I soft reset a couple of times a week - just for good measure (after running memmaid or something to assure good operations). Don't think I've ever "needed" to other than during flashing and installations. Using Dutty's V2 (medium), but moments from flashing Q-Mobile 1.2. I tend to avoid things like cubes and S2U and such (justified or not, I see them as unnecessary resource hogs), but am hardly minimalistic as far as installing programs.
Perhaps you'd be happier with a "liter" ROM? I'm still testing to find the one I want to stick with. That being said, I love the V2 medium - just looking to appease my inner flashing addict.
i love it when ppl use cooked ROMs and then complain about issues...No offense to anybody. I used cooked ROMs on the Hermes as well. Not on my TILT. I do not have to reset the Tilt, but when I do is because a third party program freezes.
And also remember, any program that you install, might cause issues, because crappy programming...It's not necessary the OS...
Using Qmobile 1.2 for about a week. Might have had to soft rest once or twice. Not too bad. I think mainly because of Navizon though...
I never really had to soft reset due to crashes, but i normally do softresets after configuring registries that require soft resets. Otherwise, its on 24/7!!
I soft reset when I find my phone getting a little sluggish. It's like a computer, I figure, and I restart my computer multiple times a week. Either way, I don't think there's any harm in soft resetting too much.
I find I have to soft reset fairly often. Probably every day. I am using stock ROM but have installed a bunch of stuff, so I am suspicious of that.
I do have a Cube installed, and am considering dropping it off. Not sure if that will help or not.
I find that there are a lot of posts about various quirks on Tilt. And I will say, "Gee, that doesn't happen to me", and of course next thing you know it does. Some of the stuff is just me still learing how I can get myself into trouble. For example today my sound quit and I couldn't hear music from WMP. But it turned out that the problem was that sometime I had hit that little speaker at the top which opend the volume control, and before getting it closed I had deactivated sound. So even with volume at 100%, no sound. Interesting...
Anyway, as some said, I suspect combination of installing stuff causes issues. The more you install the more likely it will be problematic. But then, for me anyway, one reason I have this unit is so I can put stuff on it to make it productive. But then, after all, it is a version of Windows, so after a while, probably need to reload from scratch (hard reset).
yea most likely its the stuff u put on the stock? o men do some upgade.
I do soft reset about once in 14 days. I usually do it when my available RAM approaches 40 MB. Don't remember it has ever crashed on me except for a few times when usiing opera mobile.
Actually I after using the TyTn II for 3 months now I am starting to believe that the instability issues we relate with windows mobile are becoming more of a myth than a reality
I guess I soft reset too often? I do it about 15 times a day. By choice, though.
mick2021 said:
Have my att tilt for over a week now and i noticed I need to perform soft reset at least twice a day. I am not sure if that's normal but I think it's annoying since I rely on it for reminders. This morning I had to do a soft reset because it froze during the night. I am not sure if I want to use it as alarm clock.
I am using the Dutty's V4 RTM and Radio 1.27.12.11.
Is there something I can do or do i need to get used to it?
Other than that and the bluetooth not working with my infiniti g35, i love it.
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just hard reset, it may help
I normally do a soft reset every morning when I disconnect my Tilt from the computer, since Active Sync kicks in every so often during the night and drains the RAM by running. . . but it's still between 50 - 55MB, even at that. Other than that, the only time I've had to soft reset is when an app would freeze up -- which isn't very often.
most of the times i soft reset is after installing a program or vice versa when it tells me it needs to do so...rarely will i have to do it cuz it froze or whatnot
I'm in exactly the same boat as bapssystupr3m3, I only soft reset it when an installed application tells me i need to do so.
Other than that, I frequently make sure I close all the apps that are just running in the background and my kaiser appears fine.
Only soft resets when schedule back up comes up daily. Other than the scheduled backup, no resets (so far *knock on wood*).
what's wrong with resetting the phone? It doesn't hurt..
I'm using the stock HTC rom, and can only remember one time when something locked up on me (a third party app) and I ended up soft-resetting, the only other times I've done it have been after installing/configuring new things. I guess in the normal course of things I maybe reset... once a week? Sometimes more, but never for any negative reason.
I'd say the uptime on this device is at least as good as my last Symbian-based phone, and the myth of Windows Mobile being unstable is just that - a myth.
I'm using the stock Tilt rom with just a few things installed and have to reset most days. Yesterday when I woke up I discovered my phone had crashed at 11:30 the previous evening when someone had called me. Today when I woke up an hour late I reset the phone because my alarms hadn't worked nor were the notifications for messages...
I soft-reset once everyday (in the morning). It's part of my daily routine now. I use ClearTemp program to clear everything (start menu, cache, etc.) and then soft-reset using that program as well.
My stock T-Mobile Vario 3 has been performing fine for two years, until yesterday when for some reason Bluetooth would not enable when I clicked on the icon (otherwise the phone seemed fine) so I did a basic Windows shutdown/reboot as I have plenty of times in the past.
The boot initially got stuck on the first white T-Mobile boot screen with the ROM/etc revision numbers on, and would not go any further. I removed and re-inserted the battery and tried again several times, and after a couple of tries it managed to get as far as the first green Windows load screen before sticking again.
I think it must have hard-reset itself at some point during these attempts though, as now it will sometimes go as far as the default "tap screen to calibrate display" message, which I can tap and then see the central cross-hair. If I tap on this quickly enough it sometimes moves the cross-hair up to the top-left, but then it locks and won't do anything else unless I disconnect the battery again. That's the best I've been able to get it to do so far.
Help! Any ideas?
Andre
I came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to get my old system back so I forced a hard reset myself (two soft-buttons & reset hole) and it has now reloaded to factory default, but as least it's working which I rather doubted it would be.
Photos, music etc were all on the memory card, and contacts/calendar info were daily synced to my PC, so there only some old SMSs lost which isn't too bad.
Oh well, I guess I can now look around for a more modern ROM for it (now that there's nothing on there to backup/reinstall). Anyone got any particular favourites? (as there do seem to be a lot around!)
Andre
andrewilley said:
I came to the conclusion that I wasn't going to get my old system back so I forced a hard reset myself (two soft-buttons & reset hole) and it has now reloaded to factory default, but as least it's working which I rather doubted it would be.
Photos, music etc were all on the memory card, and contacts/calendar info were daily synced to my PC, so there only some old SMSs lost which isn't too bad.
Oh well, I guess I can now look around for a more modern ROM for it (now that there's nothing on there to backup/reinstall). Anyone got any particular favourites? (as there do seem to be a lot around!)
Andre
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Since there are a lot roms out there, the only one who knows what is looking for is you..yes...you...Andre because, what's favorite for me probably will not be "favorite" for you, that's why there are so many options out there. Try a couple of them (6.1 or 6.5) it does not take a long time to flash them (< 10 minutes). After that, you will come up with your favorite as many users in these forums. You will definitely will enjoy the flashing and testing the different roms!. That's what I feel LoL
I bought this phone hardly used from Canada and was simlocked so I did all the hard spl'ing, sim unlocking and all the other "ings and installed the brilliant DonSalari ROM worked beautifully for around 7 months and I took care of it. I never installed anything else of messed about with any settings.
But two days back after heavy usage the battery almost died and I came on put it on recharge and now its going into the reboot loop.
I hard reset it, reflashed the radio, took out the battery for hours and a lot of other things I read about here and none of them work.
It will sometimes boot up and become normal for a few minutes and after a while go back to its cycle. Currently it wont even stay on long enough to hook up to my PC. But sometimes holding the reset button helps and that was how I was able to reflash the radio
Anybody got any ideas. My phone is still newish and I seriously cannopt afford a new one now
Any advice would be more than welcomed
Thanks in advance
You could try the radio 10.00.25.05.
As least for me, all radios but 10.00.25.xx makes my diamond keep in this reboot loop.
I'm trying to figure out why that happen, but it seems that no one knows.
Hi, i've just got this same problem
had this phone for a while now, about 15 months, just finished a phonecall 5-10 minutes ago phone reset, thought how odd, and now it just keeps resetting after the loading screen disappears, have now hard reset it, and still doing it.
will try flashing a new radio see if it solves it
i have radio version 1.17.25.09 using 2.07 shaks which have been using for the last 6 months or so i think without any troubles!
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flashed 10.00.25.05. seems to be working now
annoyingly i hard reset first and i've just had a new harddrive on my pc so lost all my contacts
thanks
stead said:
Hi, i've just got this same problem
had this phone for a while now, about 15 months, just finished a phonecall 5-10 minutes ago phone reset, thought how odd, and now it just keeps resetting after the loading screen disappears, have now hard reset it, and still doing it.
will try flashing a new radio see if it solves it
i have radio version 1.17.25.09 using 2.07 shaks which have been using for the last 6 months or so i think without any troubles!
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flashed 10.00.25.05. seems to be working now
annoyingly i hard reset first and i've just had a new harddrive on my pc so lost all my contacts
thanks
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Just after buying my diamond I changed to hardspl, radio and rom, and it was like your situation, just after a few days working I had to hard reset, because it starts to auto reset. After the hard reset, everything was fine again for a few more days. Then I tried to change the radio to the more used one, 10.00.25.05. The problem was gone until some days ago, when I decided to try Security Unlock and 1.17.xx radio, and the problem was back. I reverted to 10.00.25.05, everything was fine again, except the wifi, now I can't connect to the internet, just to local network (no problems with other phones using the same wifi hotspot).
Before chaging back to 10.00.25.05, I have also tried a lot of things, many hardspl, mtty, different roms, security unlock, removed security unlock, diferent radios, but the only ones that really worked were: 10.00.25.xx and 10.02.xx. With 10.08.xx radio I could partially use the phone, but sense 2.5 didn't worked and neither phone network.
Now I'm using 10.02.25.32 for 1 day and a half. No problems until now, no resets, network and sense working fine, battery is good (it's 75% on the second day). I'll try for more days and see if everything is ok.
Sorry for your contacts
That happened to me once, now I always backup my contacts in internal storage and also in 2 computers. Lots of version, good that PinBackup writes the date on the file, easier to see which one is newer
Thanks for sharing your situation. I'm trying to figure out what can be done to solve this problem, more experiences is more information for my "research"
lucky I had a backup from december so still got most of them!
I may try a few radio's next week since i've got a lot of free spare time at the mo.
may try a few different roms as well and see how it goes!
Finally solved this and all it needed was a good 15 hour recharge and now its back to completly normal
hrmm, mine starting rebooting again earlier, again just after a phonecall, although this time i was driving and i didn't answer it but it kept rebooting, taking the battery out for a few minutes and its stopped now, will try flashing a different rom next week and see what happens
i'll leave it to charge overnight too, i did try a different battery incase it thought the battery was low as i'm using the offical extended one, but still did it with the original
restarting prob...
hello same problem here too..plz provide me the link too..for the radio 10.02.25.32
tgusta said:
Just after buying my diamond I changed to hardspl, radio and rom, and it was like your situation, just after a few days working I had to hard reset, because it starts to auto reset. After the hard reset, everything was fine again for a few more days. Then I tried to change the radio to the more used one, 10.00.25.05. The problem was gone until some days ago, when I decided to try Security Unlock and 1.17.xx radio, and the problem was back. I reverted to 10.00.25.05, everything was fine again, except the wifi, now I can't connect to the internet, just to local network (no problems with other phones using the same wifi hotspot).
Before chaging back to 10.00.25.05, I have also tried a lot of things, many hardspl, mtty, different roms, security unlock, removed security unlock, diferent radios, but the only ones that really worked were: 10.00.25.xx and 10.02.xx. With 10.08.xx radio I could partially use the phone, but sense 2.5 didn't worked and neither phone network.
Now I'm using 10.02.25.32 for 1 day and a half. No problems until now, no resets, network and sense working fine, battery is good (it's 75% on the second day). I'll try for more days and see if everything is ok.
Sorry for your contacts
That happened to me once, now I always backup my contacts in internal storage and also in 2 computers. Lots of version, good that PinBackup writes the date on the file, easier to see which one is newer
Thanks for sharing your situation. I'm trying to figure out what can be done to solve this problem, more experiences is more information for my "research"
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Well the hd on my computer fried not long after posting my last message so I didn't get time to try out different roms/radio's
still using the 10.00.25.05, since i've last posted its been fine, however it has started to reboot itself sometimes, battery showing as 30/40% starts rebooting then battery shows as 2%, although i've recently been moving between houes and haven't had time to charge it properly.
i've also noticed HSPDA recention is a million times better with this radio, I have another diamond (well my partners) and she barely gets good reception with HSPDA, in our home i generally get 2-3 bars and she can't get anything, she's using 1.17.x.x strangly she's never had the phone restart with her, and has been using that radio longer than I had been.
also for the radios, you can either search for the thread or click this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470306
I am a broadcast engineer and have been a Linux user for the last decade. So when Android hit it was only a matter of whose device. After a lot of research and waiting for 6 months for the initial “teething pains” to pass selected the Captivate for several reasons.
As a broadcast engineer 24/7 reliable cellular communication with data is a professional necessity not a convenience. For that reason my wife always has the same phone as I carry as a backup. If mine gets broken or unusable for any reason we switch SIMs and I am back to work. So we both received our initial “trade up” Captivates at the same time. About 25 days after receiving our phones mine started randomly shutting itself off. After three warranty replacements finally got one that stayed on. Six months later wife's was replaced due to no audio from the speaker. Later after my father past my mother merged into our family plan and choose Captivate as well.
So we have three Captivates in our family. Love the phones. Mine by my nature is loaded with “all the bells & whistles.” Lots of app, widgets and rooted. As soon as I am comfortable with my choice and feel prepared will take the plunge and try flash a custom ROM. More than likely several through ROM manager of some kind. I really like to looks of the four tap lock and other features only a custom ROM is going to get you. Besides I am a “power user,” which my wife thinks translates to “if it works, it doesn't have enough features.” My wife has a few widgets & apps as well as my mother to a lesser degree.
In the last 90 days we all three have been experiencing something that I describe as a “loop soft rebooting.” Started with my wife, she described it a “loop rebooting.” Every weekday from 10:00 to 10:20. Once I had a chance to observe I found it does not do a complete reboot. It does not show the shut down animation like a controlled shut down. Or the turn on animation like a power up after a complete shut down or OS crash. I would describe it as more like a “soft boot.” Almost like a launcher crash, but it also has to rescan the SD media. It vibrates once with the screen off or on, in use or out. then twice more, another 8 to 10 seconds another vibrator alert then the launcher appears and starts to load widgets, apps & scan media. Completely unresponsive to any key input until after the launcher reopens. The wife has never used anything but the AT&T/Samsung stock launcher. I did all the usual things. Backup, factory reset, restore. Still does it. Backup, Hard reset, restore, still doing it. Hard reset, rebuild from scratch, no restore, stayed completely vanilla, no apps or widgets at all. It still does it. Then mine started doing it. I was using ADW Launcher, switched to Launcher Pro, have even dropped down to using the original launcher since it acts like a launcher crash. No affect. Went through all the above same process with the same results. Mine does it's act between 5:00 & 5:20. About a week later my mother reported hers does the same thing between 4:00 & 4:20. Interesting side note, if we turn off the radio (airplane mode) it does NOT do it, completely stable in PDA mode. But when we turn the phone back on, it then starts the process and runs for 20 minutes and stops. I have been collecting logs off my wife and my own phone but work duties have not given me the opportunity to read through the thousands of lines of logs to find a “smoking gun.” Now in the last week we see the same activity more often and for longer periods. Because turning off the radio stops the activity there has to be a trigger from the network. It also uses lots of data during these periods. Maxed out my wife's data plan the last 3 months. We have Lookout Security installed on all three phones and it reports no Trojan's, viruses etc... Also the Hard reset should have killed anything like that. I have done hard resets three time on my wife and my own phone and rebuild from scratch now. We have left her phone completely factory fresh only adding back her contacts through Gmail. I have Titanium Backup and have tried “freezing” & unfreezing” everything I can think of. Nothing but turning off the radio seems to effect this issue.
Has anybody out there experienced anything like this???
Damn dude, can I get the cliff notes?
If you're thinking of taking the custom rom plunge, I would say to go for it. The reason I suggest this is that most custom roms will also flash a different modem, which might allow your phone to connect to the towers in a way that will prevent the hot reboots you're seeing. Just make sure to do the normal backups (Titanium backup) of stuff you want to save before flashing.
^ +1
sound74145,
yeah since ur rooted, i would suggest flashing a different modem (radio) if u don't want to flash a Dev Rom yet.
What is ur Baseband version now... i897uckb1 ?? If so try i897ucKH3.
Check the modem stickied thread. It should be attached behind the paperclip at the title of the thread.
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