Microsoft Live! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I need something to explain to me why everyone likes this program? I guess I dont understand it enough to know exactly what it is or why the facination. Isnt it simply a search engine and if so isnt google better? I suppose this is a lame question but for the last year or so I have been hearing people talk about live as if its the next best thing to sliced bread. So whats the scoop?

Do you mean Live Search, the alternative to Google. Or do you mean Windows Live, found at get.live.com, the family of Web Services that microsoft has/is developing of which Live Search is one such service.
Web Search and GPS Mapping
Breaking it down a little more, you probably mean Live Search Mobile which is a mobile app that inlcludes a today screen search box (to search Live Search) and a GPS Map Service. I believe this can be found at m.live.com from your phones browser. This is great if you don't have TomTom or other Sat Nav software. Its free!
Contacts, Email and IM
Then there is the killer app the Windows Live mobil app which synchronises your contacts and Windows Live Hotmail with your Kaiser, and adds Windows Live Messenger to it. For a Hotmail and WLMessenger user this is simply perfect. Download from this thread "Collection of the Latest Cabs for kaisers [updated 19.11.07] ".

Yeah.
I like some of W Live on my phone. But it doesn't integrate w/ pocket Outlook the way Google does: <MENU>, "Locate in Google Maps"
And, I think that having to pick a location via <State>, <City> is a little arduous. I like just typing "Italian" and "Providence" in Google when I want to eat meatballs and pasta.
But WinLive has the great Movies tab....

It does too. just not as cleanly as google maps. if you go to location settings or directions, it allows choose from contacts. you just can't do it from the contacts screen.

Correct Live Search does allow you to find addresses from you contacts. Also I find that when I enter an address Google Mags is usually off by several houses (mine: one house, a client: 3 houses), where Live Search is usually spot on. Google Maps is better with traffic as Live Search dosen't show my area.

Windows Live Clarification
So just to try and clear up the branding mess that is Windows Live.
Windows Live Mobile Portal
Access WL features via PIE or other mobile web browser. Includes link to mobile web version of Hotmail, Messenger, Spaces, MSN, Search and more.
http://mobile.live.com
Windows Live Mobile Search (Google Search competitor)
As stated above. Simply the mobile web version of the Live.com search engine.
http://m.live.com
Windows Live
Application for Windows Mobile that allows for Hotmail/Live Mail Contact and Email syncing. Includes a Live Messenger chat client and two Today plugins (one which launches Windows Live Mobile Search in PIE)
You can download various builds of the app from this thread.
Live Search
A great Mapping and Local search program for Windows Mobile and Blackberry (Competes with Google Maps program)
Download it from http://wls.live.com
Hope that helps anyone confused with the insane naming scheme MS came up with.

I'll add that Live search with the Kaiser's GPS is very good, center on your location find a location and then it will draw a route on-screen and give turn-by-turn directions on a moving hybrid satellite map with chimes at turn points with text instructions. It doesn't have "heading up" but it's very impressive. I believe Google maps will do something similar, I keep both on-board.

Is there a way to get live search on the today screen? I have installed it but does not show up in the options to display.

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how about fully-functioning gmail on kaiser?

I've tried opera mini and opera mobile with no help. I am looking to have full access to my calendar, gAIM, and all those neat little services I can get when I open gmail on my computer.
I've been try to patiently wait for opera mobile 9 but wtf!
and I don't want to involve outlook, IMAP or any other BS "sign up for this" service. I want to load my browser on my Kaiser and see my full calendar (which my wife and I are able to share/edit in real time which rocks), on the go from anywhere...
I don't get it. What services are you looking for exactly? If you wanted to see the GMAIL website exactly as you would on the computer albeit some small differences, logon and select FULL view instead of mobile view on the bottom. Other than that, can you be more specific as to what your looking for?
No, the "FULL" gmail experience in Opera or anything I try does NOT include the gchat list on the left, the gdocument access and absolutely does not load the gcalendar as it looks on my computer. It loaded some cruddy un-editable single page calendar.
I'm sure that this isn't what you are wanting, but thought that I'd throw it out there anyway...
Have you ever tried OggSync? It allows you to sync your calendar with Google Calendar directly. I use it all the time now so that I'm not tied to Outlook. Basically every calendar that I have in Google is sync'd to a category on my Tilt.
As for Google Docs, this page (http://www.google.com/google-d-s/whatsnew.html) claims that you can access them via docs.google.com/m but I haven't tried that yet.
yeah, thanks for the heads up on oggsync but I'm done with "syncing" I've done it in the past and it's a pain, never smooth and NOT real-time, i.e. changes made aren't immediately seen on my wife's calander. The way we keep it now if she adds something to her shared gcalendar I immediately see it on mine and vice versa. With mobile calendar you only get to add, no edit and can't view months at a time easily (or at all?).
Was hoping Opera 9 would fix this.
P.S. I realize these are processor intensive scripts to make g-stuff look so awesome but I think (read: hope) the kaiser should be able to handle it.

MSN messenger and Live search bar

anybody know if there is seperate .cabs for these so that i dont have to install Microsoft live to have these available...if i could just get the search bar to put in my today screen that searches google and the msn messenger client.
Here is a link to a live search cab http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1966231
There will be loads of stand alone messenger cabs kicking around on here
Good luck
you can use the search cab from this thread in the forums which has a tiny footprint and works perfectly. Very useful if you don't need the hotmail client and just want a searchbar on the today screen.
Fring is supposedly a good messenger client and it's free and reputable. It supports filesharing, Skype and other VOIP standards along with pretty much every IM provider going.
ok thanks...yea leon i ask you about this searchbar thing in another thread.." the favorite app thread"

[AUS] - 3 Network Services

G'day champs!
I signed up for the x-series pack... wondering if anyone knows how to get the three services such as windows live msn etc etc... everytime I try, it gives me an error message
"Sorry, Windows Live Messenger isn't available on your mobile"
"To find out about upgrading your mobile, please call 3 Customer Care on 133 320"
Alternative: Install the actual windows live messenger app from msn website. With this option, I wonder if the data usage be counted towards my allowance?
Thanks
You won't be able to download 3's MSN messenger. You would need additional site certificates to be able to use them. These certificates are only included with 3 branded phones.
Just use your own client and use data. Yes it will be counted towards your usage, but it won't be that much..it's only text afterall. Be sure to monitor your usage from My3 and/or use the bundled GPRS monitor from the HTC cd.
I use the official msn version from MS, it doesn't use much data at all.
Also on the X-Series plan, but it does count towards your data as it's not the "3" client.
Thanks for the replies guys... Appreciated
While I am at it... I shall ask another question...
Windows Live Messenger adds all my msn messenger contacts to the contacts on my phone... now my contacts (phone book) is messed up with like 100s of email contacts...
Is it possible to change the settings so that msn messenger does not save the email addresses in my contacts list?

[APP] Google Calendar on Raphael

I am one of those guys that uses Google services for almost everything. One of the most valuable services, for me, is the Calendar. However, keeping it in sync with my Touch Pro is not very easy and although there are some applications to handle the synchronization of calendars, I've not been very happy with them. Also, I have Linux on my laptop, which makes Outlook a little bit hard to use . I believe many people may have the same problems that I have. Having this in mind, I've started the development of a little application that shows the google calendar on the Touch Pro. I've included some screenshots of it.
What I would like to ask you is if this application would interest anyone or if I am already reinventing the wheel and there are better applications already done for the same purpose.
I've also attached the application. Remember that it is in the starting phase and right now only shows the events of the default calendar (except All-day events). If the response is favorable I will add the ability to view multiple calendars, to edit, add and remove events and to notify the user as the "reminder" settings of the events specify (right now I let Google send me a SMS, so it is not that important to me). I have not made an installer yet, so to try the application just unzip it to someplace in your raphael and run the executable (with File Explorer, for instance).
As it is, the application will not store or modify any data in your phone, except storing your username (and optionally your password) in the registry (key HKCU\Software\GooMobiCal).
So, what do you think? Should I continue to develop it? Do you have any other (better) option?
Marco
This looks great. Although I'd like to just see Google Calendar work with the calendar built into the phone. Like it did on my blackberry.
i'm with cladeus101. i would love for gCal to work with the existing calendar on the phone.
but then, i also think that the existing WinMo calendar looks ugly. i like the gCal look more. heh
This app is pretty awesome though! I would love to see the new features you mentioned.
cladeus101 said:
This looks great. Although I'd like to just see Google Calendar work with the calendar built into the phone. Like it did on my blackberry.
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You can use Google .net API to this this. There are some interessting opensource sync tools out there, but the developer stopped developing them Oh and there is no need for a PC to sync!
Yes I use google calendar but I've just been opening it in Opera. Which is fine but if there was something better...
Hi !
Nice application, that is promising.
Maybe that using Mobile Outlook with Google Calendar API will be also a great interesting alternative. (I am using a Mac). Online Google Calendar Synchronization with Mobile Outlook can be so great.
However, If it is too difficult, your application is in the good way. Please continue .
faeArai said:
You can use Google .net API to this this. There are some interessting opensource sync tools out there, but the developer stopped developing them Oh and there is no need for a PC to sync!
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I would like to have a tool like the org. "Google Calendar Sync"4Outook but then for the build in Calendar. I'm using Oggsync now and that works more-or-less. It's a paid programm and the licence you pay for, is only valid for one year. (So i use the freeware version)
In de freeware function, the tool does not sync automatically every X-minutes. (And it supports only one calendar, but thats not a big problem to me)
So what i would like for Christmas is a automatic-calendar-sync-tool that syncs all fields in the calendar (and, if possible, syncs more than one calendar. And² if possible syncs the contacts aswell) Djeez, thats a big question for Santa
I'm with the general consensus .. I would really like to see an app that allows me to sync Pocket Outlook calendar with Google calendar, on an automated scheduled occurrence. As already stated, OggSync kind of works, which means I wont pay to purchase it.
The Google calendar is already available on mobiles (http://www.google.com/calendar/m), which I use occasionally, so I'd see little use in this app for myself.
If there is a possability to add appointments and share the agenda I would like to try it.
Also, it would be nice if the password is stored encrypted.
Hope you will develop it, I'm willing to test if you're looking for testers.
I just found this service that might be everything you already want: http://www.goosync.com/
I found something that is free!
This site is in beta, www.nuevasync.com ...let me sync google Calendar AND contacts for free w/activesync on Windows mobile. It's free for now, but it says "beta" so hopefully it won't change.
bosskoffee said:
This site is in beta, www.nuevasync.com ...let me sync google Calendar AND contacts for free w/activesync on Windows mobile. It's free for now, but it says "beta" so hopefully it won't change.
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I'm impressed... That's exactly what my ActiveSync/Mobilitycentre does. I can even select more items to synchonize there, but wait, i won't!
If i am on the road, i cannot synchronize with my laptop So i would like to synchonize the phone just by using a tool (like the Google Calendar Sync) and my UMTS/HSDPA internetconnection.
Not sure what you mean Daneels. That site does let you sync with only your phone and 3G/data connection, no need for a laptop.
Basically you set up the active sync on your phone to sync with their server settings (that mimic an exchange server) and you can config active sync to do that at intervals of 5 min to 4 hours.
So contacts and calendar, from just the phone, using software already on the phone. Seems to work okay for me, though like I said the web page says "beta" so I'm a little nervous about how long it will last.
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...let me sync google Calendar AND contacts for free w/activesync on Windows mobile.
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...With activesync... Activesync runs on both the phone and computer. By this i mean, very local even without internet, over bluetooth/usb. So i tought someone has re-invented activesync (is also free for Windows-users). If it is syncing over internet, than it's something different . If it enables the use of activesync over internet, than it is extra interesting!
So perhaps we we're having some miscommunication
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, it let me sync Google calendar/contacts over the internet with the phone...no PC/local connection involved! check it out I just hope it's free forever
These are both subscription services... I do not think that we need subscriptions, just a app that does the synchronization directly with Google. Without anybody in the middle.
I would be glad to start something like that... but I was amazed that there is no cheap way to develop for WinMo. Yes, the SDK is free, but you need Visual Studio, which is far far from free...
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These are both subscription services... I do not think that we need subscriptions, just a app that does the synchronization directly with Google. Without anybody in the middle.
I would be glad to start something like that... but I was amazed that there is no cheap way to develop for WinMo. Yes, the SDK is free, but you need Visual Studio, which is far far from free...
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I'd love to see a talented developer coming up with this as well!
please work on this. Taking winmo into a cloud arena is the right direction. Google currently has the best cloud suite out there. This is great. I can not wait to be able to add events. until then those who are interested should use www.jott.com to add events. there is a google calendar plugin.
Version 0.2
Thank you all for your replies. I already knew GooSync, but not the other services, like nuevosync. However, they are either not free or require a third-party to forward my calendar to my ppc. I see no reason to give a third-party access to my own calendar data (Google already knowing my private calendar is enough for me). I was looking for something more direct.
Having not found anything free, I continued to develop my little application and arrived to version 0.2, which now allows viewing multiple calendars simultaneously (including the Outlook calendar) and allows to add new events to those calendars. Synchronization between Google and Outlook is in my to do list, but I prefer to get more familiar with both Outlook and Google APIs before diving into it. Also, there are a lot of little things to do before, such as:
- Remove events;
- Support All-Day events (they are not displayed yet);
- Support Multi-Day events (they are incorrectly displayed so far);
- Allow "Quick Add" events (easy on google calendar, not so easy on Outlook);
- Store the preferences (such as selected calendars) of the application;
- Store locally the google calendar events to access them offline;
- Encrypt the password on the Registry;
- and probably a lot more features and bug corrections.
Anyway, for those who want to check out how it is going, here are some screenshots and the application. As before, you only need to unzip the file to a folder on your PPC and run the GooMobiCal.exe file.
If you try it, please give some feedback on how to improve it and which features you consider more urgent keeping in mind that synchronization will take a while. Also, I'm doing this on my free time, which really isn't much, so the development is not as fast as I'd wish.

[Q] How do you sync hd7 to your outlook?

Hi all,
I just unplugged my sim from my X1 silver, and plugged it into my HD7. and then, after two hours...
1. how do you actually sync your phone contacts from ms outlook 2007 to it? I tried downloading zune, but nothing. The freakin' thing doesn't even have a manual.
2. I thought I won't encounter a problem since it's HTC and since it's WM7, and since my PC is win7 x64. But oh boy, this is getting in my nerves.
3. WM7 doesn't know how find a hidden (SSID) WIFI. I mean,.. Dang!
compared to any wm phones, just plug the hell into your pc, get wmdc, and then voila. 5 minutes tops.
XD
WP7 is indeed a different bird from WM. Hidden SSID is a known limitation, and hopefully gets addressed with the coming update.
I assume your outlook is not connected to exchange? If so, piece of cake, if not, you'll likely prefer (or not) to use a hotmail connector for outlook. This essentially creates a cloud-based sync.
Oh, and the manual is inside the box in a little pocket.
I managed to upload my msoutlook 2007 contacts to the cloud using OC32bit. almost a piece of cake. But, I'm having a hard time getting it to my phone.
When I try to add an account, it says windows live account is already added. but when I tap people. There nothing in the contacts list. None.
When I try to login to windows live via pc I can see all the contacts from there.
I... just hate it.
Talk about innovation, talk about the future. XD
Use Outlook connector and a hotmail account and everything works perfectly.
Hi,
Thanks! I manage to do it now. After spending a night my phone book has everything on it now(contacts wise). Too lazy to repeat it for calendar, lastly, I missed activesync so much that even your one note syncs to your wm.
I'm having thoughts on returning the phone and getting the android version (desire or X10) because of these:
1. hd7 only installs apps on what windows wants and not what YOU want.
2. it doesn't support pdf file for book reading, document reading.
3. I heard it doesn't open .doc .xls and any lower .doc files. (old docs still exist today unconverted)
4. I can't put files on the phone "ala USB flash disk style" I mean where's the plug drag and go, when you use the phone business wise. how do you intend to use the 16G space? (for movies or music; given the rumored battery life?)
Everything we do on our wm phones aren't easy to do on this wp7 anymore, I haven't reviewed at it before I grabbed my HD7 since I said to myself what do I have to worry about? I have grown from WM5, WM6 and WM6.1, what could go wrong?
I dunno I mean I hope I'm not babbling, I can't google if i don't open pocket ie and type google, I can't install opera, I can't browse flash sites I mean, youtube isn't the only streaming video out there. I can't install my garmin mobile xt, I can't install java app, I can't explore the contents of my phone. I mean this is freakin' alien windows i'm using. I don't even know if I can find my phone on over the local area (win7) network or homegroup.
With all the "I can'ts" I said. I thought I'd better off android!. XD
1. hd7 only installs apps on what windows wants and not what YOU want.
If you mean the app store is limited, yes it is. It's growing though.
2. it doesn't support pdf file for book reading, document reading.
Download the Adobe Reader from Marketplace. Free.
Haven't tried #3.
4. I can't put files on the phone "ala USB flash disk style" I mean where's the plug drag and go, when you use the phone business wise. how do you intend to use the 16G space? (for movies or music; given the rumored battery life?)
Zune. It's just a matter of figuring it out. It's different, to be sure. They also want you to utilize cloud based storage more. The offer free SkyDrive space included with your live account, and most of the MS apps can access that space. Other apps, like the eBook reader Freda, can connect to a DropBox account. Then there is Sharepoint.
I can't google if i don't open pocket ie and type google
Open up IE then press the capacitive Search button. Instantly takes you to Google.
I just found there's a google app in the markeplace too? and yes it grows every hour, its almost endless... pretty neat!
If you say it's just a matter of figuring it out, I hope I can figure it out with an option NOT to upload it on a cloud, since c'mon not all places in the world have super fast internet connection, I don't want uploading an entire folder up there then downloading it to my device.
And even if the chevron thing would work on my device, It would void my warranty so I wouldn't try.
After 2 days with my new phone, I feel much more comfortable with it now. I hope it would get even better.
Gotta follow this up since I don't want to start another similar thread.
I have another question:
The phone contacts (people) always have you on top named "Me"
question is, How do you actually link a contact to "Me"?
I just noticed it now that somebody asks for my bank account and of course, I'll look for it in my notes within my ms outlook contact under my name. I just found out that my name in my hd7 doesn't have a picture and doesn't have a facebook link(not that the FB link is too important), etc. and when I click the link icon in the bottom middle, I can link it to any other contact entry in my phone except "Me".
Technically speaking, the contact named after me in my phone is treated as another person. I tried signing on to windows live, check my contact there, found my name and the options I have is "add as a friend" which is really beginning to sound funny.
Long story short, I need to link my ms outlook 2007 contact(myname) to the owner of the HD7 phone which is me, so I wouldn't retype everything and delete the synced "myname" account since if i do so that would be deleted in my PC. I gotta have 'em both. but I wish I just could link it to my phone's "Me" account.
That's a toughie.
So the "Me" contact syncs up with both your Windows Live account and your Facebook account (which you add in services --> email and accounts, NOT the blue facebook app)
I don't see a way to sync the Me contact with another outlook contact.
You may want to take the notes in your Outlook contact and copy them to your Live stuff.
jimbonics said:
I can't google if i don't open pocket ie and type google
Open up IE then press the capacitive Search button. Instantly takes you to Google.
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that's dependant on carrier... I get yahoo, you could get the google search app from the market or pin google from IE to the start so you can launch straight to google.
jimbonics said:
That's a toughie.
So the "Me" contact syncs up with both your Windows Live account and your Facebook account (which you add in services --> email and accounts, NOT the blue facebook app)
I don't see a way to sync the Me contact with another outlook contact.
You may want to take the notes in your Outlook contact and copy them to your Live stuff.
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Yeah, not the blue facebook app. and I think I'll just have to deal with it having two seperate accounts the Me, and my outlook unlinked.
@frontieruk
Speaking about the search button, it is getting annoying when you actually hit the button accidentally. I hope someday a double-press (double-click) fix would make it possible.
I had a similar experience except that I got the "Me" where it's suppose to be the first time. Learning little by little, I guess Hotmail (windows live) is actually kinda cool.
Here's a good place to start. (in case yo haven't found it yet); Hotmail Tips
includes video tutorials inside
biernes_atrece said:
I had a similar experience except that I got the "Me" where it's suppose to be the first time. Learning little by little, I guess Hotmail (windows live) is actually kinda cool.
Here's a good place to start. (in case yo haven't found it yet); Hotmail Tips
includes video tutorials inside
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I'll check that one out. Thanks!

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