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Orange SPV M700 - It has GPS?

Hi everyone
I am new here and this is my first post, so please go easy on me.
I wanted to start by congratulating all the contributors on this forum on a great job done.
I’ve just ordered an SPV M700 on Orange and have a couple of questions
1- I need to unlock the phone to be able to use an O2 Sim card in it.
2- I want to be able to use The GPS in the phone.
To use the O2 SIM do I just need to do a SIM unlock, or do I have to do a CID unlock to? Err what is CID in the first place
My understanding is that the Orange ROM has the GPS enabled, am I correct? If so, all I have to do is install software like Tomtom Navigator and all should work, right?
As you can see, I am not that technical and do not want to mess the phone up by venturing into un-chartered territories.
Thank you for any help

1, yes you just need a SIM unlock. You will find the necessary tools on this forum to do this.
2, it seems that the current batch of Orange phones are shipping with the gps enabled rom, so yes just install tomtom.
I think CID stands for country ID (or something like that), you only need to unlock this if you intend to install firmware from another country e.g. the gps enabled Depod firmware. Providing your orange supplied phone has their most recent firmware you won't have to worry about this.

I've just found out what orange are doing. ONLY their Business phones have it enabled.
So if you order the phone on a personal account you don't get the GPS enabled.
However if you order it on a business account you can have it.
The third option is to learn French and flash the publicly available french rom to it.
(That's assuming you want it to be supported by orange themselves)
Else use one of the cooked roms and you're sorted.
EDIT: I've just got off the phone to Orange. The third option above would still be covered by insurance. Though if anything goes wrong it would have to be listed as a technical fault and go back to their free post address.

no, you are wrong, i am personal account, the rom is gps enabled

You flashed it to enable it. The GPS ROM is there but with one of the earlier firmware versions which doesn't enable it. (I got my information directly from Orange. If you were lucky enough to get a business phone sent out to you then I'm extremely jealous (and ask you again to upload your firmware ) but after about 40 mins of bouncing me around centers and giving me lame excuses or saying they were the wrong department I finally got a straight answer out of 2 seperate departments saying this was indeed the case)
If you look on the Orange site:
Business:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/se...s&c=OUKDevice&cid=1044134008063&extarg1=Phone
It can deliver you directly to your meetings, thanks to it's built-in GPS with Sat Nav from Orange.
Personal:
http://shop.orange.co.uk/shop/show/handset/orange_spv_m700/features
No mention of any GPS is listed.
I know the GPS is there and functions as I've used a cooked ROM to enable it.
Plus as has been pointed out you can freely get the Orange France version of the firmware which has GPS enabled.

no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.

siupiu said:
no no no, i didn't flash it before enable it, i can use the gps with tomtom 6 when i first got the phone, i need to flash it because i need to make it sim unlock..( i got it on 28/02/07, from the orange shop)
and even the manual with my spv m700, it also mention about the gps.
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This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here

Forget about solution 2

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Forget about solution 2
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I second that

the-oneil said:
This is good News
I will get mine tomorrow - hopefully
Alas, I need to use an O2 Sim card though, so I must go down the SIM unlock route. I am in a dilemma between
1- Using the Prof's unlocking solution here
or
2- Paying up the $38 for peace of mind here here
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you may to have a look of this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296327

SPV M700
Just to let you all know:
I just spoke to Orange about upgrading my M600 to M700. Vry nice lady ( after three atempts) has confirmed that M700 has GPS receiver built in. It would not show anywhere on Comms but it is selectable once you install SatNav software and it is on COM9.
So I think that anewers the original question.
Happ Navigating

Got my SPV M700 from Orange yesterday.
I went into the favorit > Sat Nav & downloaded Orange's Sat Nav program (It woked a treat - No ROM flashing or anything ) It actually guided me back home.
So yes, Orange UK ROM is 100% GPS enabled.

the-oneil not all are coming with GPS enabled. I know as I've seen 2 so far which came without the GPS working. Must depend on the batch they send out.

i think that depends on which rom version, that one with the following version must have GPS..
Operator version : 19.123.1.615
ROM version: 1.23.61.5
Rom date : 01/25/07
Radio version : 1.30.00.01
Protocol version: 32.63.7020.08H

I didn`t have to enable GPS on my M700. I installed a sat nav system ( Navigon MN6) and it connected by itself. I have a black M700 but on a personal account. The black ones were originally only reserved for new business accounts. Don`t know if that is significant.
I have now just installed Route 66 Navigate 7 in place of Navigon but it can`t seem to connect to the GPS receiver. Anyone help with that? I can only find one way to access the GPS seetings, in Systems/connections/GPRS Settings, and the only option is to change from PAP Authentication to CHAP Authentication. I don`t know what the difference between them is ( I`m not a techie!!) but it makes no difference anyway.
Any advice would be appreciated

Don't confuse GPS (Global Positioning by Satellite) with GPRS (General Packet Radio Service). If you mess with the GPRS settings, you may stop your phone from being able to use mobile data.
The M700 doesn't come with the GPS control panel visible, and generally speaking you don't need it to. Windows Mobile 5 comes with a software patch which distributes a GPS signal to any application requiring it, but some GPS applications can't work with this. I presume Route 66 may be one of them (as is TomTom).
Go to your Route 66 settings, and in the GPS setting options, set COM port to COM9 and Baud rate to 57600, which are the default hardware settings for the M700.
Now go to somewhere with a clear view of the sky for about 10 minutes, to allow the program to download all the necessary satellite information.

the-oneil,
I did the same as you with my brothers Trinity but I have a small problem with the internet settings.
I downloaded a cab file from a forum request on this site but it did not work for me and so I then copied the settings from a site called 'filesaveas' and itwork for me except in one way.
When I try to access my brothers Hotmail account via Pocket MSN I could not do it, however when I accessed Hotmail via Internet Explorer it was ok.
So I have some kind of error in the settings somewhere that still needs to be resolved. I contacted O2 for the settings but they would not give them to me because it is not an O2 handset. The screen asks me repeatedly for 'Incoming Email Password', which is exactly the same one as when I use Internet Explorer to acces Hotmail.
So let me know if you get the above working on yours and perhaps I could copy your settings.
Cheers!
And good luck!

Thanks NeilM,
Trouble is, I`ve tried and tried to find somewhere in the Route 66 menu where I can change GPS settings, but no luck. I`ve been checking through the files using File Explorer but can`t find anything anywhere that allows me to do that. Can you suggest somewhere I might find it or would it be pretty obvious, like going into the main menu in Route 66 when it`s running, and looking for a GPS settings tab. There isn`t one. It has a tab called GPS information but that just gives GPS status info, no way of changing any settings. Guess I`m stuffed!!

According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device

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According to the Route66 help, it only supports Bluetooth GPS, not inbuilt receivers.
In fact their compatibility list is so old, I wonder it works on any current device
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Thats great, thanks for letting me know, I can stop messing around with it now and go for something else or get a bluetooth receiver. The built in receiver isn`t that great anyway. I read somewhere that it was an 8 channel receiver. I have tried Navigon MN6 already with my M700 and I noticed that it`s positioning leaves a lot to be desired. I wondered if it might be something to do with the receiver as I didn`t expect it to be a SirfstarIII. So I might at some point just get myself a decent quality bluetooth SirfstarIII. Any recomendations?
Cheers for now

tomtom plus- anyone have any luck?

has anyone had any luck get any of the tomtom plus features to access the internet?
mine just errors out....
can someone try theirs?

nm... finally got it...
signed up on mytomtom.com yesterday...
turned off my proxy settings in medianet...
put my email and password in tomtom when it asks for it...
turned off hsdpa...
logged on to a website via explorer (to get a data connection active)...
then went back to tomtom buddies and tried to login, it errored twice but i pressed continue three more times and it finally logged in...
traffic and all of the other tomtom plus services work great...
now, just need my pals with kaisers to get their tomtom buddies up and running and we'll see if we can track each other...
the kaise/tytn II/tilt/8925 is great piece of kit... and i really like having the gps...

Tomtom traffic
I get most plus services to work except traffic. I have everything in your post without luck. A qustion to tomtom support only resulted in "we do not support you device" answer. Any ideas?
When I fianlly installed the maps from my CD and activated them it started working. It did not work with the free downloaded map.

aszotten said:
I get most plus services to work except traffic. I have everything in your post without luck. A qustion to tomtom support only resulted in "we do not support you device" answer. Any ideas?
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I didn't fill in any email and all plus services work (including traffic) accept traffic cams, which times out when updating. (western europe map)

Tomtom support
I want to highlight something. I downloaded the free map and tried to activate my tomtom traffic on this free manp. This caused the error mentioned in my previus entry. I then tried to open a support case with Tomtom, but they refused to handle it. They state that the Kaiser is an unsupported device. Luckily traffic worked when I installed my maps from the DVD. I don't understand how Tomtom can make a deal with HTC, provide the progam and maps and then refuse to support it.

aszotten said:
I want to highlight something. I downloaded the free map and tried to activate my tomtom traffic on this free manp. This caused the error mentioned in my previus entry. I then tried to open a support case with Tomtom, but they refused to handle it. They state that the Kaiser is an unsupported device. Luckily traffic worked when I installed my maps from the DVD. I don't understand how Tomtom can make a deal with HTC, provide the progam and maps and then refuse to support it.
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Quite agree - I would demand to be referred to their complaints procedure and make sure they know you have a tomtom branded TyTn II installation disk. Also do not assume they know the phone by the name Kaiser. Also remember to mention that the programme is specifically adpted by them to run on that phone and no other.
Mike

aszotten said:
I want to highlight something. I downloaded the free map and tried to activate my tomtom traffic on this free manp. This caused the error mentioned in my previus entry. I then tried to open a support case with Tomtom, but they refused to handle it. They state that the Kaiser is an unsupported device. Luckily traffic worked when I installed my maps from the DVD. I don't understand how Tomtom can make a deal with HTC, provide the progam and maps and then refuse to support it.
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I've just called TomTom with a bogus question (why speedcams wasn't working) and after mentioning TomTOM Navigator 6, PDA, Kaiser and TyTN II, they answered the question.

sWORDs said:
I've just called TomTom with a bogus question (why speedcams wasn't working) and after mentioning TomTOM Navigator 6, PDA, Kaiser and TyTN II, they answered the question.
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Maybe the problem could be that I used the EU version of the Kaiser talking to the Swedish Tomtom support, and the Swedish version of the Kaiser is not yet available.

aszotten said:
I want to highlight something. I downloaded the free map and tried to activate my tomtom traffic on this free manp. This caused the error mentioned in my previus entry. I then tried to open a support case with Tomtom, but they refused to handle it. They state that the Kaiser is an unsupported device. Luckily traffic worked when I installed my maps from the DVD. I don't understand how Tomtom can make a deal with HTC, provide the progam and maps and then refuse to support it.
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Interesting, when the FAQ's on their own site says this:
Question
Why is NAVIGATOR 6 support for Windows Mobile® 6 limited to some HTC devices?
Answer
The reason why NAVIGATOR 6 is not supported on all Windows Mobile 6 devices is due to our global partnership with HTC, as a supplier of pre-installed Navigation Software for their GPS-enabled devices.

All works fine on my device....

TomTom Traffic not working
I have installed TomTom into my unlocked HTC Kaiser and it works fine. While, intitially Traffic was working and downloading perfectly well, since October 1, I get connected to the traffic server, but no data gets transferred into my device. (The traffic message is always no traffic incident to report, although there are numerous delays in the New York metropolitan region). I have contacted TomTom customer support about this. Originally they told me the traffic servers were down. Today they are telling me that this is a problem specific to HTC devices not getting the data correctly. Does anybody else have the same problem? Is somebody using the traffic service since October 1 and receiving valid traffic information on their HTC Kaiser devices? I have a version of TomTom that is not made specifically for the kaiser. I wonder if that would work better?

hweinberg said:
I have installed TomTom into my unlocked HTC Kaiser and it works fine. While, intitially Traffic was working and downloading perfectly well, since October 1, I get connected to the traffic server, but no data gets transferred into my device. (The traffic message is always no traffic incident to report, although there are numerous delays in the New York metropolitan region). I have contacted TomTom customer support about this. Originally they told me the traffic servers were down. Today they are telling me that this is a problem specific to HTC devices not getting the data correctly. Does anybody else have the same problem? Is somebody using the traffic service since October 1 and receiving valid traffic information on their HTC Kaiser devices? I have a version of TomTom that is not made specifically for the kaiser. I wonder if that would work better?
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It's not just you. Last night, I used my Tom Tom v6.032 (that came with the Kaiser) and had it pull the traffic info along the route I was taking. Got all green. 5 minutes later, i'm in bumper to bumper traffic and inching along (there was construction that turned a 3 lane busy street in Washington, DC into a 1 lane street. While in the bumper to bumper, I had the software update it's traffic info and it still came up all green. I just figured it would only report on accidents and not delays, but evidently i'm not the only one having the problem.

I wasn't getting any traffic updates in the UK, but a colleague with a TT910 was. So I copied tmcodes.dat, traffic.dat from the map & deleted the other traffic file. Ran through enabling traffic again, and it's working fine again.

same problem
I have same problem with Orange provided device in the UK - logged call with TomTom who now say Kaiser is supported. Everything works except for Plus services - get generic TomTom device error when trying to connect to do anything in the plus menu. Navigator 6.
any advice/ideas - tried disabling HSDPA but no difference.

I have had problems with TomTom on my Kaiser, but it is always rectified by connecting it to a wifi hotspot first, with the cellular radio off. Then going to TomTom and running an update, where it will always download a small update of some sort the first time I run it, after that I'm troublefree on wifi or 3G (or Edge, or HDSPA)

the_ape said:
All works fine on my device....
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All is also right for me with my Orange branded Tytn II.

I realise this is an old thread. Also I have posted in detail here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11166165#post11166165
but basically I have installed TomTom 6 on a Kaiser which seems working except traffic reports give error 1506.
If there is a fix for this please advise.
Thanks in advance.

[Info/tutorial] How to manually configure a-gps server

Hi there,
This topic is about my experience of configuring a-gps manually with a French operator. This may help others.
I installed a few day ago the last french official HTC ROM (see here)
My Diamond is SFR branded (French Vodafone), and after upgrading from the native SFR ROM to the HTC one, I felt a slowdown to get a good GPS signal for the apps I use: Googlemaps and iGo8. The signal also seemed less accurate.
I decided to investigate this way.
First of all, some elements that may be obvious for most of you, but reminding them does not hurt:
A-gps is a system that enhances GPS performance, by connecting to an a-gps server. As a matter of fact, this server makes use of cellular network signal to locate you faster. For further informations, see Wikipedia a-gps article.
AFAIK, a-gps is different from Quick GPS (see here) In particular, config values for a-gps and Quick GPS are located in different registry keys on Diamond.
Now let's get deeper into a-gps:
You can, once again AFAIK (and you'll correct me if I'm wrong ), use two kinds of a-gps server:
Your mobile vendor's server (i.e. HTC)
Your operator's server
I remembered that on some phones (at least Nokia N95), you have to define manually your a-gps server when using SFR network.
For Nokia, the problem is that the port used by the vendor's server is blocked by SFR WAP connection.
This is not the case of HTC a-gps server, since using HTC rom does not inhibit a-gps: it only seemed slower to me than with my SFR rom.
Here are the registry parameters for a-gps, on the original HTC ROM:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00001C6B
"ServerIP"="10.1.101.63"
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3B9AC9FF
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
I guess "10.1.101.63" is the IP address of an HTC's a-gps server (?!)
I then downgraded to native SFR ROM, and here was the same key:
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
"ServerURL"="geoloc2.sfr.fr"
"GPRSConnection"="WAP SFR GPRS"
"Network"="WAP SFR GPRS"
"EnableAGPS"=dword:00000001
"EnabledPrivacyMethod"=dword:00000000
"CloseConfirmMsgTime"=dword:0000003C
"PrivacyMethod"=dword:00000000
"EnableLocInfo"=dword:00000001
"ServerPort"=dword:00001C6B
"QosPerformance"=dword:00000059
"QoSAccuracy"=dword:00000032
"TimeBetweenFixes"=dword:00000001
"NumberFixes"=dword:3B9AC9FF
"GPSMode"=dword:00000002
As you see, the server is defined with its URL, "geoloc2.sfr.fr" (known as one of SFR's a-gps servers), and some parameters are different.
Of course, you have to replace "WAP SFR GPRS" by the network connection you want to use.
I upgraded to HTC ROM again, and set the operator's rom values.
Now I've got the feeling that it's harder, better, faster, stronger (and more accurate).
By the way, QuickGPS is configured in the following key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\QuickGPS].
Note that, on SFR branded rom, this key does not even exist.
Hope this helps.

I've wondered why Quick GPS seems to replace the A-GPS feature on the diamond. QuickGPS doesn't seem to do a damn thing for me. From cold boot, I can stand in open air for 5 minutes until I even start to get a peek at a couple of satellites. How can we be sure that QuickGPS is even working at all?
I used to own a Nokia N95 that had the A-GPS feature, the GPS inside the N95 was pretty average. But with the A-GPS feature you could at least get a lock in under 10 seconds, every time. As long as you had configured your positioning server, (supl.nokia.com) and you had a data connection, then it was consistently under 10 seconds from cold boot. Without A-GPS it was more like 5 minutes plus, basically what I'm seeing on the diamond.
As people have noticed, using tools like Advanced Config to enable A-GPS breaks the GPS completely. Probably because of the missing settings such as you have outlined above, (I noticed these settings while poking around in the registry recently too). I wonder how we can find out what the server names for other countries are and get this working for eveyone.
Also, the IP address 10.1.101.63 is a private IP address so I guess that explains why it fails when you switch AGPS on, that address will never be contactable, so they must have used it for some kind of internal testing - but if it's working for you (with your new settings) then why did HTC choose to leave it broken for the other ROMS....

Well... Since I updated to this last HTC rom, QuickGPS "does work". I mean, it is an installed program, therefore available in "programs" list, and when I launch it, I can "download" data to update it. Though I don't have a cue of what use is made of this technology on Diamond.
I've always used Advanced Config to enable A-GPS, and it has always worked for me. But if it breaks the GPS, I guess you can do it from the registry by setting "EnableAGPS" value to 1.
I also tested a N95 8Go recently, and I had the same results.
But I'm not sure to understand your need: Diamond has both A-GPS and QuickGPS. I don't think QuickGPS is very efficient, but A-GPS is.
I do also think that setting the "ServerIP" value to "10.1.101.63" must work worldwide, since I bet this is HTC's a-gps server.
With this, GPS signal takes about 30 seconds to lock (at first use after soft-reseting, but may be under 10 seconds for next uses).
Did you give it a try?

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Well... Since I updated to this last HTC rom, QuickGPS "does work". I mean, it is an installed program, therefore available in "programs" list, and when I launch it, I can "download" data to update it. Though I don't have a cue of what use is made of this technology on Diamond.
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Yes I have i too, and it connects and downloads data ok. But does it speed up a GPS lock? I don't think it does. I've hard reset and just run TomTom without QuickGPS and then with QuickGPS and I cannot for the life if me see any difference at all. In TomTom Satellite screen, you can see no data. If it was working, you should see all Satellite 'numbers' in their respective little boxes and then the tracking would begin almost immediately. But I'm not seeing this.
I've always used Advanced Config to enable A-GPS, and it has always worked for me. But if it breaks the GPS, I guess you can do it from the registry by setting "EnableAGPS" value to 1.
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Many people have said that enabling A-GPS (via advanced config or direct reg edit) makes the GPS stop working completely i.e. never getting a lock. If you have got this working for you, as far as I know, you're one of the first! Lucky you!
But I'm not sure to understand your need: Diamond has both A-GPS and QuickGPS. I don't think QuickGPS is very efficient, but A-GPS is.
I do also think that setting the "ServerIP" value to "10.1.101.63" must work worldwide, since I bet this is HTC's a-gps server.
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No that IP address is within a private non-routable range for internal private networks and cannot be reached from the internet. Read this if you want more info.
I do agree though on the A-GPS being better, and with my experience with Nokia phones A-GPS is excellent. I don't understand what it is that QuickGPS is trying to do, because there is nothing quick about it. I thought it would be similar to A-GPS (in how it actually works) but now I'm confused :/
With this, GPS signal takes about 30 seconds to lock (at first use after soft-reseting, but may be under 10 seconds for next uses).
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Now that's the sort of time we all should expect when using an assisted/quick GPS aid to the actual GPS chip. It should be lightning fast. So to me it says QuickGPS is pretty lame, as everyone is using it by default in all ROMS and there are many many people complaining about the GPS not getting a lock at all. So it can't possibly be working properly. And if it is, it still sux.
I'm going to try and replicate those settings you have above on my Diamond and see how it goes. I'll post back shortly.

OK well I've put all those settings in, but still no luck. It is not working. I've been waiting several minutes and still cant even get a fix.
It's not out of the realms of possibility that SFR's A-GPS server can only be used by SFR customers. After all, they assign you your IP address when you connect to the web on your diamond so they could easily lock it down so that random people cannot use it. In fact that would make a lot of sense.
I think we're close, but I guess we need to find a SUPL A-GPS server that is open to the public, maybe? Or certainly at least find out if HTC has one that we can use that is accessible via the internet... Maybe someone else has some ideas?

you can try: "supl.nokia.com" instead of "geoloc2.sfr.fr"

Have you tried this, and what port does it use?
I'd been playing some more and found out having it enabled really screws things up - TomTom thinks it has a lock, then it doesn't, then it does, then it doesn't, etc. It's really bugging out. So I just switched it off.
I'm really interested to know though if A-GPS will help with the ongoing GPS-Lag/inaccuracies problem, some poeple have reported that the lag is fixed in the new OS builds floating around but I can confirm that it is not fixed - in fact it felt like it was worse!
This GPS is causing too many headaches!!!

salada2k said:
Have you tried this, and what port does it use?
I'd been playing some more and found out having it enabled really screws things up - TomTom thinks it has a lock, then it doesn't, then it does, then it doesn't, etc. It's really bugging out. So I just switched it off.
I'm really interested to know though if A-GPS will help with the ongoing GPS-Lag/inaccuracies problem, some poeple have reported that the lag is fixed in the new OS builds floating around but I can confirm that it is not fixed - in fact it felt like it was worse!
This GPS is causing too many headaches!!!
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I'm also in Australia and i'm having the exact issues as you in regards to GPS lag and inaccuracies, i do however get a fix quite quickly, first time after a ROM change it takes a while but after that its somewhere between 30 sec and 1 min 30. I have changed my rom many times updating to all the latest custom ROM's, still its inaccuracy remains, its about 40 metres off on my device. I live inhouse number 16 and yet it tells me I'm at house 20. Like WTF........
What a pain in the arse!!!!

I got ip adress of HTC aGPS server!
its the 64.14.59.165
you got to just change the htc stock server of the diamond to this and its working well for me.

saveferris said:
I'm also in Australia and i'm having the exact issues as you in regards to GPS lag and inaccuracies, i do however get a fix quite quickly, first time after a ROM change it takes a while but after that its somewhere between 30 sec and 1 min 30. I have changed my rom many times updating to all the latest custom ROM's, still its inaccuracy remains, its about 40 metres off on my device. I live inhouse number 16 and yet it tells me I'm at house 20. Like WTF........
What a pain in the arse!!!!
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Tell me about it. Mine is about 50m off 90% of the time, sometimes it looks like it might be ok. The other thing I noticed today is that the 'speedo' in TomTom i.e. the bit on the status bar that tells you how fast you're going - which is usually very accurate - still tells me I'm going 15km/h, then slowly counts down to zero anything up to 20 seconds after reaching a complete stop! I am starting to regret spending money on TomTom. But to quantify that, I don't blame THEM, I'm just pissed I've shelled out so much for the Diamond + TomTom and the fkng things dont work properly. We have to get to the bottom of this!

salada2k said:
Tell me about it. Mine is about 50m off 90% of the time, sometimes it looks like it might be ok. The other thing I noticed today is that the 'speedo' in TomTom i.e. the bit on the status bar that tells you how fast you're going - which is usually very accurate - still tells me I'm going 15km/h, then slowly counts down to zero anything up to 20 seconds after reaching a complete stop! I am starting to regret spending money on TomTom. But to quantify that, I don't blame THEM, I'm just pissed I've shelled out so much for the Diamond + TomTom and the fkng things dont work properly. We have to get to the bottom of this!
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Yep, its all the same issues I'm having, but not just with tomtom, I'm using iGo8 and garmin XT with no success.
This was written by me on another thread complaining about the GPS.
I called HTC support Australia and informed them off its fault with GPS lag and its accuracy, I informed them that over 50% of users are having this issue on the XDA forum, they told me that no fault has been logged and there isn't an issue, It may be time to call up the tech support and make some noise to get this issue resolved. its a pain in the arse and it shouldn't be happening.
I also called up Hong Kong Customer support the other day and they said the exact same thing...... i think.... the chicks English was just deplorable.
I think i may call the Australian HTC support again, and just irritate the **** out of them, hopefully this time they may have a solution for me.

saveferris said:
I think i may call the Australian HTC support again, and just irritate the **** out of them, hopefully this time they may have a solution for me.
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I hope you can get somewhere mate! Good luck!

lowrider_05 said:
its the 64.14.59.165
you got to just change the htc stock server of the diamond to this and its working well for me.
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anyone tried if this really works?

Is IgO 8 working with A-GPS enabled?
Thanks

Update/Refresh of GPS data
Maybe a stupid question, but how can I update the a-GPS data or does the device update the data automatically?

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lit2fly said:
anyone tried if this really works?
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Well, it does seem to be some kind of Navigation related server - I am trying now...

Well, it doesn't seem to have made a difference - but I will test some more...
lowrider - where did you find that IP?

What is the data amount when using AGPS ?
Are some data only transferred when opening TomTom ?

steph90 said:
What is the data amount when using AGPS ?
Are some data only transferred when opening TomTom ?
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It should be only a few KB send, and then a little more KB received.
It should only happen when the GPS is activated (e.g. you start TomTom) and then the A-GPS would kick in then. It should not transfer any more data unless you lost the GPS signal, then it would assist the GPS in getting a lock again, and therefore transfer another few KB.

Enabling GPS in Telus Diamond (CDMA)

Hey guys,
I've been trying to get Googlemaps GPS to work on my shiny new Diamond, but Telus seems to have locked GPS to only work through Telus Navigator.
Googlemaps just searches for satellites forever, even outside.
Anyone know if there's a way around this?
Thanks,
-Michael

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Telus seems to have locked GPS to only work through Telus Navigator.
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Surely not, I can't believe an operator would do something so crass (even if they could do it at all).
Try getting a fix in your Navigator program, and when it has done so, and while it's still running, hit the home key (as in hard home key) and run up google maps. You will still have your navigator app running in the background, still holding its fix, so hit Use GPS in google maps and you should get a fix instantly. If you still don't, get back to us, as a setting or two will have gone awry.

Yeah, but then I have to pay for Navigator, which kinda defeats the purpose =)

Sorry, the way I understood your first post, I thought you had Navigator, and so far you could only get your GPS to worked with it.
You need to make sure your GPS settings are in order... there are loads of tips around this forum on how to best set it up for a number of different scenarios, and I'm not going to add to them again, but if you search around, you will find the settings you need and I'm sure you'll be up and running in no time.

Hello and welcome to the world of telus diamond.
I have a Diamond from Telus, and I've gotten the GPS to work without even considering thinking about paying for Navigator. I use a little application called Efficasoft GPS utilities, and it can usually get me a fix in under 2 minutes. Then if i need to use google maps, I just open it up, and WHAM-O - instant location.
for the record - GPS is NOT DISABLED by default in Telus Diamonds. It just doesn't work very well.

That sucks a lot.
Stupid Telus.

Well hopefully we'll get some great chefs working on the radio, ROM etc, and the GPS won't be so bad in the future. But as of yet, the Multitudes of ROMs out there aren't for our CDMA Diamonds. As far as I know, we're all stuck with the default ROM for now.

I have a Telus Diamond working just fine with Google Maps & Google Navigator!
Didn't even have to change any settings...
Leave the GPS set to "Using system GPS setting".
Go outside and give it a minute to locate.
It doesn't work too well indoors

That's really strange.
I've decided that Telus is retarded. I can't even download Navigator to my phone ("navigator coming soon...") leading me to believe that maybe Telus just doesn't want to supply Ottawa with GPS at all. Even running the HTC GPS Tool I can't detect any satellites.
Lame.

try GPStest. its floating around here somewhere.

Continuities said:
I've decided that Telus is retarded. I can't even download Navigator to my phone ("navigator coming soon...") leading me to believe that maybe Telus just doesn't want to supply Ottawa with GPS at all.
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Don't use Telus Navigator. It sux huge and you can get better software for free.

Well, it seems to be working now.
On a whim, I tried running the HTC GPS Tool again and it found a bunch of satellites, and now Googlemaps GPS works beautifully.
No idea what happened.

my google maps works great now too!
woot!

How to tell TomTom is actually using QuickGPS?

Hi
Can anyone tell me how to work out if TomTom is actually using QuickGPS data?
On my old phone (which also had QuickGPS) when I went into the GPS details immediately after loading TomTom I'd see loads of satalites listed on the histogram before I actually got a lock. Now when I do a cold start they don't show until I've got a lock. For a warm start they do show and I get a very quick lock, but I'm guessing the QuickGPS data is more for speeding up the cold starts.
Also does anyone know if it makes a difference whether I choose "Internal GPS Device" or "Othe NMEA Device"? Either seems to work
Thanks
Dan

Timed testing?
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Can anyone tell me how to work out if TomTom is actually using QuickGPS data?
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When the HTC TyTN II WWE WM 6.1 upgrade that wasn't first came out and GPS performance fell through the floor, there was speculation that QuickGPS wasn't doing its thing and that this was (at least part of) the reason for the very poor GPS performance and extended times to get a lock. Short of timed testing to achieve a satelite lock which isn't conclusive, I'm not aware of a way to prove that the data is being used by Tomtom or any other navigation software but it might be worth reviewing/searching among some of those past threads on the topic. Theres also alot of discussion in the Raphael forum about poor GPS performance on some Touch Pro devices and some of that is at 'nuts and bolts' level.
On my old phone (which also had QuickGPS) when I went into the GPS details immediately after loading TomTom I'd see loads of satalites listed on the histogram before I actually got a lock. Now when I do a cold start they don't show until I've got a lock. For a warm start they do show and I get a very quick lock, but I'm guessing the QuickGPS data is more for speeding up the cold starts.
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Yes it is. Have a read of the Kaiser GPS Enhancement Guide for some general information in this field but a seach should also yield LOTS on the topic.
Also does anyone know if it makes a difference whether I choose "Internal GPS Device" or "Othe NMEA Device"? Either seems to work
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I had it suggested to me (by HTC) to use the latter and configure the port manually but after much trialling this, I found it didn't fix the problem of poor GPS performance and as far as I was concerned was a waste of time. Given the version of Tomtom Navigator 6.032 was a special one co-developed with HTCs assistance for their devices, I cant see why changing away from 'Internal' should be benificial. In the end my slow fix fix only came with reverting to WM 6.0 for me. I believe some later WM 6.1 ROM/Radio/SPL combinations now offer GPS performance which is much better than earlier WM 6.1 implementations but as these aren't (yet) available through HTCs UK website for my device and I know what I currently have works very well, I'm staying with the official WM 6.0 setup for now. My device is out of warranty, so one day I may try another setup for comparison (say the latest Hong Kong WWE ROM/Radio/SPL).

Thanks - I'm experimenting with radio at the moment and I have managed to get some improvement, but it's annoying not being sure if QuickGPS is really working

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Thanks - I'm experimenting with radio at the moment and I have managed to get some improvement, but it's annoying not being sure if QuickGPS is really working
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Have you seen this thread about Hopeless GPS after WM 6.1 update yet? Since you're in the UK I'm interested to know how your GPS under WM 6.1 with your fairly new Radio is performing. What sort of times do you get standing still out in the open to get a 'cold' satelite lock? Have you tested with that 1.71xxxx eMO Radio as well? I believe the SPL version can also make a difference to GPS performance but I don't know any more about why that is.

In the last couple of days I've tried the 1.70.19.09 and 1.70.18.02 radios. They seem to have a much better GPS performance than 1.58.25.17 which I was on before. It's only been a couple of days though so I can't be 100%