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The Bluetooth and Windows Mobile Device Center Dilemma

Hey everyone!!
Did anyone manage to connect his HTC Wings via Bluetooth to the PC and Sync it with WMDC?
It works with cable but not Bluetooth (BL).
I appreciate comments.
Thanks

A.Bagatov said:
Did anyone manage to connect his HTC Wings via Bluetooth to the PC and Sync it with WMDC?
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It worked pretty easy on my S730. Make sure you enable BT on the phone and your computer. Pair the PC with the S730 and start ActiveSync on your mobile. Select the option 'Connect via Bluetooth' and that was it (for me).

you seem to be using activesync, however i use windows mobile device center with windows vista x32... so the procedure is different and much more problematic it seems... not just with the s730 but with all wm devices

A.Bagatov said:
you seem to be using activesync, however i use windows mobile device center with windows vista x32... so the procedure is different and much more problematic it seems... not just with the s730 but with all wm devices
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I use Windows Vista Business (32-bit) and I needed to upgrade Mobile Device Center. It works without any problems afterwards. The only disadvantage is that I need to manually connect on my phone, before it starts synchronizing. I would rather have it syncronized whenever it is near my laptop.

it doesnt work for me. bluetooth is turned on in both devices.
does anyone have any suggestions?
i have the toshiba bluetooth stack software, do you use that too??

I had the same problem. Open you WMDC and go into Mobile Device Settings and select Connection Settings. Under Allow connection to one of the following: change the selection from Bluetooth to COM7.
Then open your device and set up your bluetooth connection again. You should see Activesync now.
You are most likely using the Toshiba Bluetooth Stack instead of WIDCOMM.

IT IS NOT WORKING
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
this is so STUPID
when i try to set up on my phone then it says "you have no partner for activeysnc, get one?"
i say YES and choose my computer
then i can select a port a one point and i CANT select 7
whats the solution!=?!

From your response I think you are trying to set the COM port on your device but you should be changing it in Windows Mobile Device Center.
I'll go step by step in case I was not clear.
1- Disconnect your Wing from your computer.
2- Open Windows Mobile Device Center
3- The only option should be "Mobile Device Settings"
4- In Mobile Device Settings you should have two option Connection Settings and End a partnership, select Connection Settings.
5- Under the second check box "Allow connection to one of the following" there is a drop-down box which should currently read "Bluetooth". In the drop-down box change that selection to COM7.
Note: If COM7 is not available, then I suggest you uninstall your Bluetooth device drivers and then reinstall them.
6- Close Windows Mobile Device Center
Now return to your device.
Delete any existing Bluetooth connections to your computer. and reestablish your Bluetooth connection. You don't need to change any COM settings on your device. Just establish your connection and you should have the Activesync option once it is reconnected.
This is under the assumption that you are running the Toshiba Bluetooth Stack on your computer. If you are and it doesn't work, I'm all out of ideas.

I should have specified that as of Step 2 above, this is all done on your computer not your smartphone, i.e. HTC Wings.
Your problem with Bluetooth is on the computer not the device, most likely.

this doesnt work... i did all the things like u told me on the computer.
then i go to my phone and try to connect from activesync via bluetooth and it says that no computer with a partnership could be found?? even though i actually made bluetooth partnership with my pc. when i added my pc to my bluetooth devices list on my HTC it told me that my pc supported 2 services: stereo audio and com port. i ticked com port... it doesnt seem to help.
on my pc, when i open the bluetooth stack software from toshiba i can see my phone has a partnership with my pc. but it has a network symbol on it.. is this supposed to be like that? ah this is so frustrating? any suggestions?

The only difference I see between your set up and mine is that I don't have a connection appearing on my computer.
So when you open your Bluetooth Settings on the computer, I don't have a saved connection with my Smartphone. The only place I see a connection between my computer and my device is on the device itself.
So my last suggestion is to delete both connections. The one on your computer and then the one on your device.
Open your device and reestablish a connection from your device to your computer. You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection.
Also, go back and make sure that in Windows Mobile Device Centre, the connection is for COM7 and has not reverted back to Bluetooth. What you described has only ever happened on my computer when the connection was not set to COM7.

Something currious happened with my device when I was reestablishing my Bluetooth connection, which may be of interest to you.
I erased my original Bluetooth connection and while reestablishing it my device was also connected to my computer with the USB cable. When I paired the device, there was no option for ActiveSync. I disconnected my device and then started the Bluetooth pairing over and this time ActiveSync was available.
Does this help?

Any of you guys who have sucessfully pairedd WDMC in Vista with S730 over bluetooth use original MS out-of-box bluetooth drivers?

I've only used the Toshiba and Widcomm Bluetooth Stacks and have been able to sync with both on Vista.

dagobert_29 said:
The only difference I see between your set up and mine is that I don't have a connection appearing on my computer.
So when you open your Bluetooth Settings on the computer, I don't have a saved connection with my Smartphone. The only place I see a connection between my computer and my device is on the device itself.
So my last suggestion is to delete both connections. The one on your computer and then the one on your device.
Open your device and reestablish a connection from your device to your computer. You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection.
Also, go back and make sure that in Windows Mobile Device Centre, the connection is for COM7 and has not reverted back to Bluetooth. What you described has only ever happened on my computer when the connection was not set to COM7.
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there is the problem: "You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection."
because as soon as i enter the bluetooth password on my phone and computer, there appears a bluetooth connection in the manager from toshiba. this connection has a "network" symbol and the services offered are com port and stereo audio. thats not much is it? and also when i click "connect" an error comes up.. connection couldnt be established or something.
i hate this. how can be a SIMPLE task so problematic?
toshiba drivers are working fine. send and receive works. and my phone is fine too. the wmdc work fine as well via USB. i also installed the wmdc UPDATE..... wtf right?!

Hey A.Bagatov,
I'm at a complete loss to understand why you can't get WMDC to work with your phone over BT. You've done everything I've done but unlike you I was able toe stablish the connection.
The only other thing I can think of is to download the latest BT drivers from Toshiba. But before you install them, make a copy of the TosBtChk.dll file and once you've completed the installation of your new BT drivers, replace the new TosBtChk.dll with the one you saved. This will stop you from receiving the trial period notification.
If that doesn't work, then maybe replace your Toshiba BT stack with the Widcomm stack. You'll need to locate a version compatible with your computer.

i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio

A.Bagatov said:
i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio
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You have to understand Widcomm is not a free replacement for your MS drivers. Its commercial and it can only be obtained with some BT hardware, not as stanalone product AFAIK. As that, it is a bit complicated to make it work with unsupported device (but quite possible). And where to get it? Generally, if you are able to pirate, you are also able to google.
However, I assume you have legal OS installed on your Sony laptop - why not to tell MS they BT drivers SUCK A BIG TIME? Go tell them its crap that does not EVEN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
Call 1-800-MSSUCKS

A.Bagatov said:
i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio
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I've also got a Sony Vaio, SZ45, and on the Notebook Review forum, there is a thread that discusses replacing the Toshiba BT stack with Widcomm, which you can get free of charge. The thread offers a modified file which should be sufficient to enable Widcommon your laptop. Here's a link to the general forum http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8

mpattonm said:
You have to understand Widcomm is not a free replacement for your MS drivers. Its commercial and it can only be obtained with some BT hardware, not as stanalone product AFAIK. As that, it is a bit complicated to make it work with unsupported device (but quite possible). And where to get it? Generally, if you are able to pirate, you are also able to google.
However, I assume you have legal OS installed on your Sony laptop - why not to tell MS they BT drivers SUCK A BIG TIME? Go tell them its crap that does not EVEN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
Call 1-800-MSSUCKS
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Microsoft are not the developers of the Widcomm Bluetooth Stack, it's owned by Broadcom. It can be obtained for free, however, you're right in saying it may not work with non-Broadcom hardware. In A.Bagatov's case, the issue is with Toshiba not Microsoft. They are the one's who developed a driver that is not always compatible with non-Toshiba products.
According to other posts I've, the Microsoft generic Bluetooth drivers would appear to work just fine with Windows Mobile devices, however, I was unable to get it working and did not pursue the matter any further once I was able to get the Toshiba BT Stack to function.
I can sympathize with your frustration, but your post does not help him solve his problem.

Using Diamond with Car-PC via bluetooth?

Hi there,
I got a car-pc since a while and have been using my sony ericsson with it... calls get transferred via bluetooth to the computer, as like phonebook in integrated into the car-pc software... all transmitted via bluetooth...
Now with the diamond, how do i set it up as a phone? winXP doesnt recognize other services than the moden funxtion

you should enable Remote SIM access on you Diamond: Start -settings - connections bluetooth SIM acces and also activate the service for your BT connection (do this in the first tab of the BT settings dialogue after connectig)

already done :-( But the Computer doesn't list other functions than modem for the HTC
Do i need any drivers for XP? Usually not...

Using Diamond & CarPC Via Internet sharing over BT
I have a CarPC in my car, it has a 7" touch screen & it is running WinXP and have built in Bluetooth. So for surfing in the internet , MSN, Skype in my car over the carpc i am using my HTC Diamond with the Internet Sharing icon and connecting it via Bluetooth to the carPC so i get FAST Internet over Bluetooth between my carpc and my HTC Diamond.
It works very good - very stable.
Matter of fact it is "capturing" my 3G Internet and pass it over Bluetooth to the carpc.
Solution works very well.

k, but i am not interested in using it as internet connection, i want to phone via the computers hardware, so the car-pc should act as an headset... besides that, he shoult be able to access the adress book and to begin calls... that for, i neeed 2 comports emulated, but how to create them?

could it be because the device is seen as a PDA, and not as a mobile phone?
I know somewhere here on XDA there is a reg hack for earlier devices to make them appear as a mobile phone to car kits. maybe the same thing will help here. I don't know where it is, can only suggest searching, unless anyone else can point you in the right direction....

I used to have PhoneConnector on my CarPC, with PhocoAdapter on the phone. It worked, but now this software is not supported anymore and unfortunately it does not work with WM6.
Freefone is not compatible either.
My good Blackbaron, I believe we users of CarPCs and Windows Mobile are scr...d!
By the way, sharing the 3G connection workds a treat, by USB, BT, Wifi... I just wish Vodafone would allow other ports than port 80

I still didnt realize what 3G is... ^^ I never owned a ppc before...

Well, on the CarPC the internet speed is as great as a DSL line, here is France I measured it at more than 3.5 MB/s (KS20 is limited to 4 MB/s with HSDPA, who knows why). Coming from the crappy Edge Motorola phone I had before, the browsing is truly amazingly fast!

help
golympio can you tell me step by step how to connect htc diamond via bluetooth for internet?

Try this app called JetWare

gerardo66 said:
golympio can you tell me step by step how to connect htc diamond via bluetooth for internet?
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1) Launch the Internet Sharing application on your phone (all WM6 phones have it)
2) Select your 3G connection, and BT or USB, tap "Connect"
3) USB: have ActiveSync installed on the PC, connect the USB cable, it's done.
4) BT: you have to set up a BT PAN hosted from your phone, add your PC to it, it's done.
5) If your provider uses a proxy, setup Firefox to use it (Tools/Options/Advanced/Network)
6) If your provider has a filter on User Agent, then you need the plug-in "User Agent Switcher", to put the same User Agent string as on your phone.
There you go!
zmob123 said:
Try this app called JetWare
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Looks interesting, I'll give it a try when I have some time. Do they have a trial version?

Yes they have, i leeched it... But i don't find the difference between now and before installing it...

PC software for sending and recieving SMS bluetooth?

hey guys. just wondering if anyone knows of any software that i can connect my diamond to via bluetooth to by laptop when I am at home so all sms i recieve pop up through the laptop? and so I can also reply to them by typing it on the laptop rather than the phone.?
thanks.
Ryan

there are a few things you can use...
1. If you got a free data plan then try something like dashwire... just google it and its the first link. Its web based so you'l need internet access from your computer... i've tried it and works great.
2. Otherwise i use Jeyo mobile Companion 2.1
I use this when my HTC is connected by USB to my laptop through activesync. It also keeps my htc charged up
Jeyo mobile is like a mini outlook program, and works brilliantly. cant see why a bluetooth connection via activesync wont create the required partnership and once you tried it i can guarantee its what you need. i used to use it at work as i had to tell staff off for texting on ther phones and didnt want to be seen as a big hypocrit... hmmmm i have no morals!
3. There is also SOTI pocket controller, which puts the diamond device on your PC desktop. Again this requires activesync and from when i used it, it was a bit slow. I use to use this for my MDA compact3, but after i found Jeyo mobile ther was no going back.
Jeyo mobile also backs up contacts, call history, sounds and other personalisation. I hardly use it anymore but its one app really worth paying for... i think there is a 30 day trial on the download. Hope this helps pal.

Jeyo mobile is like a mini outlook program, and works brilliantly. cant see why a bluetooth connection via activesync wont create the required partnership and once you tried it i can guarantee its what you need.
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I use Jeyo ME with both USB and with a Bluetooth partnership, works great.

Receiving files via Bluetooth on the X1

Sorry I really need to ask. I have been trying in vain to bluetooth files from my laptop to my X1 (R3AA). As of now, my phone can send (or beam) files via bluetooth to my laptop, but not receive anything at all.
Unlike my P1i, the Bluetooth services available for the X1 (showing up on my laptop) does not include the "file transfer service" that was used for exploring the phone's memory stick via bluetooth a la all the other six older Sony ericsson phones that I've previously owned...
I've already:
(i) Checked the allowing incoming beams box in "settings"
(ii) Installed Obex Inbox (but I think that simply is to allow incoming bluetooth beams to get stored in your storage card instead of device)
Is there anything else I haven't done? I right click on my laptop the file after pairing with my X1 and when I hit "send via bluetooth", basically nothing happens. Man, even my old t610i didn't have problems with bluetooth receiving...

it works for me bro.

start > settings > bt > mode > check both boxes! > ok
this will make X1 "visible" for your laptop.
BR!

-mattx- said:
Sorry I really need to ask. I have been trying in vain to bluetooth files from my laptop to my X1 (R3AA). As of now, my phone can send (or beam) files via bluetooth to my laptop, but not receive anything at all.
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Hmmm... my X1 works well too. Do you have a custom ROM? in case, which one?
so, you select the file, send to, X1 and nothing happen on the screen of your laptop? if so, it is a laptop problem, not X1 problem.
If it would have been an X1 problem, you would have seen a progression bar saying "discovering services available on X1" and then disappearing because of your mentioned X1 problem.
I'll be waiting for your answers to help you!

-mattx- said:
Unlike my P1i, the Bluetooth services available for the X1 (showing up on my laptop) does not include the "file transfer service" that was used for exploring the phone's memory stick via bluetooth a la all the other six older Sony ericsson phones that I've previously owned...
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Not sure about why your bluetooth is not receiving, but you can make your laptop access your memory stick as a normal folder to browse the files.
Follow these steps.
1. Make sure you have activesync installed on your laptop.
2. Go to activesync on your phone and select connect via bluetooth.
This should establish a activesync connection thro bluetooth, similar to what you get thro a USB connection.

bharat4ever said:
Not sure about why your bluetooth is not receiving, but you can make your laptop access your memory stick as a normal folder to browse the files.
Follow these steps.
1. Make sure you have activesync installed on your laptop.
2. Go to activesync on your phone and select connect via bluetooth.
This should establish a activesync connection thro bluetooth, similar to what you get thro a USB connection.
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Hmm. doesn't work here,
Vista, Windows Mobile Device Center.
Any clue?

hmm, next time you connect your phone thro usb, let it connect completely to windows mobile device center, then go to Mobile device setttings, and click on connection settings.
Make sure the check box "Allow connections from one of the following" is checked, and "Bluetooth" is selected from the list. I hope this works. Fingers crossed.

Hi guys,
Thanks for the replies, which help steer me in the correct direction. It seems Activesync is responsible for "unlocking" the bluetooth functions (I kid you not). Finally solved it. This is how I did it (based on advice given):
1. Checked all boxes in Bluetooth options in settings: visibility/bluetooth on/authentication passkey required
2. X1 was already paired up with my laptop
3. Connected to my laptop via USB and activesync loaded automatically
4. Opened up "My Bluetooth Places", which is the program that comes with installation of the Bluesoleil program on my laptop
5. Heard a beep on my X1 for the first time when I did this (this was the first time I was connected on USB via activesync AND activating bluetooth AND accessing the bluetooth places folder) - I think this was what activated it in the end - sorry if i'm not explaining it too well here, but it did the trick
Note: Not sure if a few more options popped up in "My Bluetooth places" folder I don't recall seeing bluetooth messaging/contacts there previously. My OS is XP home, using the default R3A rom.
6. I could transfer files via bluetooth already from my laptop to X1...
*I still haven't been able to manage to get within the file directory tree using bluetooth, bharat4ever, which program (and bluetooth service) might I ask did you use to do that?*
Additional thingys: I think it's important to use a proper software for bluetooth file transfers - Bluesoleil is much better imo than that standard Widcomm (oldish as well) program that came default with my laptop.
I was also wondering if I could transfer multiple files via bluetooth and seems like resco explorer can do the trick, though folders can't be sent via bluetooth - tho the contents inside them will.

Bluetooth

Hi,
I just bought a Bluetooth dongle for my PC. (Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M)
The main reasons for buying this was so I could sync without using one of my very spare USB ports.
Another big reason was that I really want to try SideShow.
So, I hooked the thing up, installed it. Works like a charm for most services (files etc). It just doesn't work for two things: ActiveSync (on the phone)/Windows Device Center (on my PC) and Windows SideShow. Yay.
Could you please help me out?
To summarize:
PC with Vista Home Premium,
Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M,
HTC S730.
Not working for ActiveSync nor SideShow.
x5x_tim
PS: I installed something called "X86-PC Drivers.cab" I found in some thread. That's supposed to be the drivers for the SideShow service on the PC. (I think I installed them, I did not get an error from Rundll32...)
EDIT: what might be of use: I can't get the devices to pair if I use the PC to initiate that. The PC does not find the phone untill I pair them using to phone to initiate.

I don't know about SideShow but I managed once to ActiveSync my Wings through Bluetooth. Just be sure to remove any security restricition on your Bluetooth settings on your device. Like Secure Connection etc... Also, setup a serial port when you connect with your PC and then, at PC ActiveSync settings, at connection settings -> Allow Connections To One Of The Following (Com 4 or whatever). And then, at ActiveSync on your mobile, connect through Bluetooth. Try it and come again if it doesn't work.

Yes! Thank you. It's syncing as I type. That COM4 did the trick!

In the same way, you can have Internet on your mobile through Bluetooth's activesync connection. It is helpful if you don't have wifi on your mobile.