Been working with WinMsoft to get thier Handy Sniffer product to work on my TytnII. If any of you like myself have tried other sniffers on your TytnII, you probably have been disappointed. New version 1.2 has support for our TNETW12511 wireless 802.11 adapters! Full promiscuous mode enabled! I have it working on my HTC TytnII with factory Kaiser ROM.
http://winm-soft.atspace.com/
1. Install the software
2. Turn your 802.11 adapter OFF via comm mangager
3. Start Handy Sniffer, click on Capture to select your IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi Adapter
4. Select any filters you want to engage
5. Make sure Promiscuous Mode and Extended Mode is checked.
6. Place a check mark in the Capture box to start the capture or just click start.
7. Re-enable your wireless adapter in Comm Manager and watch the packets come streaming in!!
Seems cool but can you explain what exactly this program does?
Definition of a packet sniffer:
http://www.atis.org/tg2k/_packet_sniffer.html
I can only see the PPC<->Router packets.. not really promiscuous for me atm.. Cant see the traffic from my laptop
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I can only see the PPC<->Router packets.. not really promiscuous for me atm.. Cant see the traffic from my laptop
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Are you connected through a switch?
ADSL Wireless Router
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I can only see the PPC<->Router packets.. not really promiscuous for me atm.. Cant see the traffic from my laptop
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Should be able to see traffic to/from any other PC connected to the wireless access point.
I learned that through my CCNP/and Msc in Telecoms
The LAN side of your router probably functions as a switch. As a result you wouldn't see all traffic from the computers on the LAN side. You would only see all traffic if it were a hub or if you did something like poisoned your ARP cache.
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The LAN side of your router probably functions as a switch. As a result you wouldn't see all traffic from the computers on the LAN side. You would only see all traffic if it were a hub or if you did something like poisoned your ARP cache.
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Yes I have seen that as well. The wired connections somtimes cannot be seen due to it acting as a switch, however wireless traffic is out in the open.
I'm DYING for a passive mode sniffer for the kaiser, but I couldn't get this one working. When I check "extended mode", fire up the WLAN and start capturing I get an error: "Anomalies: 0x7". And I see no packets (not even from my router).
I'm using a custom ROM though - maybe I'll flash back to the stock rom to see if it makes a difference. I really want to get a sniffer working.
Ah, I spoke too soon. It does work - kind of.
It does, in fact, capture packets in promiscuous mode, but only after I've connected andauthenticated to the access point.
I was hoping this tool was going to let me see client's and access points without requiring me to connect to the network.
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Ah, I spoke too soon. It does work - kind of.
It does, in fact, capture packets in promiscuous mode, but only after I've connected andauthenticated to the access point.
I was hoping this tool was going to let me see client's and access points without requiring me to connect to the network.
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Me too :-(
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Ah, I spoke too soon. It does work - kind of.
It does, in fact, capture packets in promiscuous mode, but only after I've connected andauthenticated to the access point.
I was hoping this tool was going to let me see client's and access points without requiring me to connect to the network.
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No sniffer I have ever used will allow traffic monitoring without first joining the network. The only thing I've seen that even comes close is a linux distro called Backtrack2, but that is primarily designed to discover WEP/WAP encryption keys by essentially sending out false failed connect packets and reading the access points replies. But that is way beyond the scope of this forum.
Almost all of the discovery applications capture packets without being authenticated to the network. NetStumbler(Win)/MiniStumbler(PPC), WiFiFoFum(PPC), Kismet(*nix), AirSnort(*nix), etc.
That's how they find Access Points without authenticating. All of the ones for the ppc, however, run the card in an active mode which will only locate access points and ad-hoc clients. The benefit of promiscuous mode is that it lets you see traffic from all devices in range. This software does that for authenticated networks, but apparently ignores or doesn't display the packets the card is receiving for non-auth'd networks.
Closer though. These guys are the first I've heard of that put the card into passive mode on the Kaiser. Hopefully they'll update the software to show at least MAC IDs and SSIDs from non-auth'd clients and APs.
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Almost all of the discovery applications capture packets without being authenticated to the network. NetStumbler(Win)/MiniStumbler(PPC), WiFiFoFum(PPC), Kismet(*nix), AirSnort(*nix), etc.
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Never seen any of those able to capture traffic without authenticating on the wireless network. Perhaps I am missing somthing. Yes they can detect the access points, they will give you the mac address and other vital info, but they will not allow you to monitor network packets without joining the network. Am I wrong?
If I am mistaken please provide how netstumbler (or any others that you list, Iv'e used them all) can capture traffic without joining the network in question. Even Kismet and Airsnort require you to join the network before client detection can take place. Or am I just wrong?
Well here's written allot of bullsh*
No "Sniffer" can just Sniff packages from an encrypted wlan without autentificate on the Wlan or what ever... the clue is, that WEP/WPA is an encryption of the traffic, so you can't sniff it directly. Yes you can see cryptic packages, but not the real content.
Kismet and Aircrack try to crack/break the encryption... and THEN when you have the Key to the network you can sniff what ever you want, because you can now read the stuff flying around in the air.
Netstrumbler doens't see the real content of the packages @all. But through the MAC address of the Access-Point (Wlan router) and some header information of the encrypted packages, it can find out the RSSID, the Channel it is running on and the encryption type of the Wlan.
So the usage of the Tools would be...
1. Use Netstrumbler to find the network and get some basic informations.
2. Use Kismet/Aircrack to crack/break/find the WEP/WPA key to encrypt the pakages.
3. Use the sniffer to capture the decrypted stuff flying around....
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Well here's written allot of bullsh*
No "Sniffer" can just Sniff packages from an encrypted wlan without autentificate on the Wlan or what ever... the clue is, that WEP/WPA is an encryption of the traffic, so you can't sniff it directly. Yes you can see cryptic packages, but not the real content.
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Wrong!...but a little right. Network General, like most legit (paid for sniffers), do not need to be associated to the network in order to capture packets. Yes they are encrypted packets but if you are using the sniffer for legit reasons then you have the key/auth already and are analyzing your own network for issues and see all the packet data you need.
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No "Sniffer" can just Sniff packages from an encrypted wlan without autentificate on the Wlan or what ever... the clue is, that WEP/WPA is an encryption of the traffic, so you can't sniff it directly. Yes you can see cryptic packages, but not the real content.
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This isn't accurate. I can capture your traffic over the air and:
If it's WEP, figure out the key from the traffic I've captured, and decrypt it all after the fact.
If it's an earlier version of WPA, I can do the same.
If it's a later version of WPA/WPA2, it's gonna be hard, but not necessarily impossible. If I know the key, it will be considerably easier.
There is no such thing as "unbreakable" encryption. Just encryption that takes a long, long time to crack. But once I've got the key, I can decrypt things that I've already captured.
When i go to select my adapter i keep getting "Cannot get adapters list!" Are there other options that i am not aware of? Ive been looking for a promisc sniffer for this ever since i picked it up!
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I just purchased the Tilt and love the features and possibilities, however I may be forced to return it if I cannot solve this problem.
I can connect the Tilt to my home WiFi network (Open/WEP) without any problems, and I can connect to several other APs (Open/Encrypted and No-Encrypt) without any problems.
In my office (where it'll be used the most) we use Cisco's lightweight access points with the WCS controller system. This system is configured with Open authentication and no encryption, and has a captive portal that you must login to in order to gain access to the network.
When I connect to this network, I stay connected for about 30-45 seconds (I can ping the Tilt from my wireless laptop for about that long), and then the Tilt stops responding on the network. The WiFi status says that it is reassociating with the network, but it never does. I can manually tell it to connect to the network, but that fails, too. While this is occurring, I can see all of the SSIDs (including ones not on the Cisco controller) that are available in our office, but cannot connect to any of those, either.
After a soft reset, I can connect to any of the other SSIDs with no problem until I try to connect to any of the SSIDs that are on the Cisco controller. After trying that, it repeats the same pattern and I must reset the Tilt before it will connect to any other access point.
I've actually done some wireless captures and cannot see any problems with the communication between the Cisco APs and the Tilt. It's just that after this "malfunction", the Tilt will successfully perform the normal 802.11 open-mode authentication, but will never proceed to the association phase.
I've talked to AT&T and HTC, and they told me my phone may be defective and to try a new phone. I've done that now, but it is still doing the same thing.
Has anyone had any similar experience?
Thanks!
This was a similar issue with my phone[Similar by reassociating with network, and soft reset], except it was on a campus[uses cisco] and not office! Basically i just had to register my kaiser's mac address with the school, and everything worked perfectly. Hopefully this helps!
That's an interesting observation. A campus network would be similar to my (large) office network.
Before you registered your MAC with the school, were you able to browse to anything?
I ask because our network doesn't require MAC addr's to be registered. It allows anyone onto the network as a "guest" and then you have to browse to a web page that lets you login to get Internet access.
But, the fact that you had to do a soft reset to get it working again is quite interesting, and points to a bug with WM6 or the device.
The Cisco WCS has some protection against DoS/etc. Maybe the tilt is doing something that's causing the WCS controller to think your device is a bad-guy and it places you on a blacklist. I think by default the WCS has a blacklist timer of about 5 mins... can't remember now. Could be what's happening though if after a reset you can't see the WCS SSID anymore.
That's a great point, too. We don't have any of the IDS/IPS functions that you're referring to turned on, but there's always those hidden features
We ran a quick test and watched the debug output of the WCS and didn't see any messages to indicate foul play.
It turns out that this problem was specific to Cisco's WLAN implementation. Cisco has a set of wireless extensions called CCX that are implemented on wireless devices (clients) to aid the infrastructure in managing the radio environment, location management, roaming, etc.
Apparently the WiFi chipset and/or drivers on the Tilt do not implement CCX (as 90% of other radios and drivers do), so when the WLAN sent a broadcast out asking for radio management reports, the Tilt's WiFi stack would just freak out.
We were able to work around this by disabling the CCX Location Measurement function in our Cisco 4400 series WLAN controller.
It would be nice to see an update from AT&T and HTC to fix this problem.
same thing happened to me.. same cisco wlse and same pda.. i also have to disable CCX. but it is quite useful feature of WLSE. i hope htc can fix it.
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It turns out that this problem was specific to Cisco's WLAN implementation. Cisco has a set of wireless extensions called CCX that are implemented on wireless devices (clients) to aid the infrastructure in managing the radio environment, location management, roaming, etc.
Apparently the WiFi chipset and/or drivers on the Tilt do not implement CCX (as 90% of other radios and drivers do), so when the WLAN sent a broadcast out asking for radio management reports, the Tilt's WiFi stack would just freak out.
We were able to work around this by disabling the CCX Location Measurement function in our Cisco 4400 series WLAN controller.
It would be nice to see an update from AT&T and HTC to fix this problem.
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Anyone know if a new driver is part of WM 6.1? I am holding out for the official AT&T version but was just wondering since I have this problem with the wifi at school.
Hello This guide is made up from the knowledge i have build up from advice given on XDA and information on other sites.
I have found this very useful in my home and hope you do to.
First off, this guide explains everything you need to do to use your diamond as the access point to the internet at home for all devices. (PC's, PS3, XBOX360, Wii)
It is highly recommended that you have a unlimited data allowance!!!!! Otherwise you could have a hefty bill at the end of the month.
Right what you will need :
A Diamond with an unlimited data allowance tariff,
A WiFi router (i have used an old router that was installed with Tiscali BB)
WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (please find this your self i will not provide it)
and some basic knowledge of networking on PC's and your devices.
Thats it. Please don't be put off by the networking side of things its really easy to do.
Right first off we need to get your diamond taking to your router.
switch on your router and let it do its thing for 2-4 mins
Connect your diamond to the wifi router by switching on your wifi in settings, communications on touchflow, when prompted, connect to your router and enter your network key.
THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS AS CONNECTING TO A WIFI HOTSPOT.
Its that simple.
Next switch off your wifi in settings, communications.
Install WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (Simple and stable)
once installed open WMWifiRouter and press connect.
This should then setup your phone to be used as a access point and connect to your wireless network all at once.
Once it says connected you can turn off your phones main screen by pressing the off switch at the top and put your phone where there is best signal! HSDPA is needed to get up 7.2mbps (little H in signal area)
Right now you need to setup your laptop or device to talk to the phone via your router!
So here are the settings you need to setup in either TCP/IP (manual connection) or a manual connection on your device (PS3, Wii, XBOX360).
I will use a laptops connection as a example because all you need to do is to copy the settings to another device using a different IP address.
If you use wifi or a hardwired connection, right click the telly with the wifi connection in the bottom right of the screen and click open network connections (XP only dont know for vista), Or if the telly is not displayed in the bottom righthand cornner of the task bar then click start, control panel, network connections.
Click on the connection you wish to use i.e local area connection or wireless network connection (you can setup both connections by repeating these steps on each connection)
this should bring up a general tab of this connection, click properties.
This will bring up another box with the network properties, all you need to do is manually enter your IP settings and DNS settings so double click on "internet protocol [TCP/IP]"
Another box appears.
Click "use the following IP address"
In IP address type "192.168.0.xxx" xxx being the unique 3 digit code of your choice, write this down for your firewall settings on other devices if you run a networked drive etc. Each new device will need its own unique 3 digit code ie PC = 192.168.0.100, XBOX360 = 192.168.0.200, Wii = 192.168.0.123 etc.
In Subnet mask type "255.255.255.0"
In Default gate way type "192.168.0.1
Now click "Use the following DNS server address"
In preferred DNS server type "192.168.0.1"
Thats it, press ok and ok on any other boxes still left open.
Your network device will rest your IP and DNS settings to the ones you have just entered, thus allowing you computer to access the mobiles phones internet connection via your router
On all your devices Manually setup all your connections using these settings and they will all use your mobile phone to connect to the internet.
Using DHCP to configure your network is not advised as its unreliable at finding your phones connection.
Now if you want to start using your phone as a phone again, open up WMWifiRouter again if its not already and click options Quit.
To get internet access on other devices via your phone again all you need to do is to start WMWifiRouter and press connect. Start using the internet!!!
If you wish to use your laptop on another hotspot, you will need to reset the TCP/IP settings back to automatic, otherwise it will not work.
Using this process sometimes causes the phone to disable its own internet connection, so a soft reset after exiting WMWifiRouter is recommended.
Have fun, im sorry if its all a little messy but i have never been very good at writing these guides.
If any modd wants to add or edit this post then please feel free. any persons wanting to add to this guide please do so.
Yes i know you can connect your phone to your laptop by USB, Bluetooth, but this method allows multiple devices to use the same phone to access the internet at the same time and via a access point at the highest possible speed, so games consoles can use it!!! Brilliant if you get a good HSDPA signal and live in the country.
Oh one last thing! if you are a youngster and wish to try this, please do so on other equipment, don't use your family's main router and laptop or PC unless its no longer in use!!!
Thank You
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
Cheers
Thanks for reading
Its does work, In my home i no longer have a land line or cable broadband i just have one bill a month which is my phone bill of £41 including insurance on my device and i get every thing, i have saved my self a fortune per year doing this, that was my reason anyway hehe L8rs
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i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
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I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Thank you good luck with the move
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I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Because the data going through the phone will really heat up the phone, as a side benefit you'll be able to use it as both a heater, and a stove until your appliances are hooked up.
Just how many torrents does it take to boil 1 cup of water?
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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your are correct, if you use WMWfiRouter directly with with your computer it does seem slow and you also get a lot of drop outs as well for that reason i stopped using months ago and was using bluetooth edr. But using this method respose times are much much quicker (to be honest i dont know why) and it is just as fast as using with USB, i know i have tested it. Im on orange UK, i get constant 1.6mbps down and 360kbps up with two bars connected the HSDPA network.
Im using it right now to reply to this thread, i got rid of my land lane and broadband connection because this is that stable and fast!
As for heating issues (poster above) once its connected and you turn off the screen, i have never had a issue. i even keep it in its HTC pouch in case it falls of the shelf its on lol.
The only problem i have come across which is more of a annoyance than anything is that when someone phones you it can slow your connection not always though, a soft reset fixes the issue.
Any more questions feel free.
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I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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Hey guys im looking for a network security analyzer that can essentially sniff out WEP and possibly WPA keys on wireless networks.
Any suggestions?
Never on PPC, maybe in like 20 years.
Well that may be true. IDK. I was searching and found a few tools, but they are years old and all the links are dead now.
Well if you want to do this right you do it with Linux using Kismet, airsnort, airsnort-ng and aircrack. I suppose it's *remotely* possible you could boot up an android port on your fuze and somehow install those programs and get to a command line. On a Windows machine, all I know of is Wireshark, used mainly for wardriving.
As far as your phone goes, Airscanner is a packet sniffer that may work on your phone. But you have to start wifi and actually join the network you want to sniff (I'm pretty sure) so you won't be getting any wifi password but perhaps if you know how to parse data from a packet sniffer theoretically text someone sends on instant message to someone. If your Fuze is like my Tilt 2, you start it, hit continue for the 30 day demo (plenty of time for you to realize this is not going to help you), then select Broadcom 802.11 DHD Network Adapter (again, that's for my phone, not necessarily yours -- if it doesn't work keep trying others).
Then you have to somehow get this thing on promiscuous mode otherwise you're just sniffing your own packets.
You have to be very good and determined to crack even a WEP key with the right tools which you do not have. If I were you I would just ask whoever owns the router nicely to let you use their network. Or use GPRS.
Does the N1 have 5GHz wifi like the Samsung?
My home LAN is 5GHz only, so I don't disturb the neighbors with my video streaming.
No, 2.4 only...
Ugh.
OK so I turned on the router's 2.4GHz, but with broadcast SSID off. My N1 wouldn't even try to connect. So I turned on router SSID and it connects AES.
I do -not- want SSID broadcast on, as Windows machines' lazy active scan will find me. Sure they'll never get in, but I do not want broadcast on.
Has anyone succeeded in connecting with it off?
When I am connected wifi and open a website on the phone, does it go over wifi preferred over 3G?
I want to share the SD card with a machine on the LAN. What's the best way to do this? FTP? Reverse SSH tunnel? Is there a sshfs for Android? EDIT: NM on this one.
Yes, I remember connecting to a WiFi with SSID off, when I had Nexus.
It is pointless to keep SSID Broadcasting off. It is super easy to find your SSID anyway, and it causes all sorts of additional problems (like the one you are seeing above). Just keep the network secure and it makes life a lot easier.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2865...hiding-your-wireless-ssid-really-more-secure/
http://blogs.technet.com/b/steriley/archive/2007/10/16/myth-vs-reality-wireless-ssids.aspx
Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
Now I find that whenever I have the phone connected to wifi, I lose -all- internet access. Just times out. 3G is still on and wifi is showing connected, but I can't get to websites. As soon as I turn off Wifi I can access the internet again through 3G.
With wifi I -can- access the wireless router's setup webpage from my phone, which tells me I am working through wifi, and I can remotely mount the phone filesystem on a LAN machine using sshfs, but I can not reach anything outside. Any idea why?
Does anyone know whether, when it's working right, it uses the wifi connection in preference over 3G?
The WiFi is ALWAYS preferred to 3G, which means - when you're connected to WiFi, all the internet traffic is routed through WiFi.
I don't understand then, why all data traffic stops to the outside when wifi is connected. The rest of my LAN gets outside fine, just not the phone.
If you can see LAN computers and exchange data with them - it's not the phone that's making problems. See if you have any restrictions in your router.
Oh FFS, my fault...
I set my IP statically for my LAN, and through some alert troubleshooting I found I can ping IPs outside but not DNs. I'd mis-set the DNS server in wifi settings. Now it works great!
I can now use sshdroid to mount my phone's filesystem on my LAN securely. Now, if I could only get it to wifi associate with beacon off...
It would also be nice to mount a filesystem on my LAN to the phone, although I consider the phone unsecure and question the wisdom of that, even with DroidWall running.
There is a market app that lets you connect to a hidden ssid
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Cool, but Market is FCing on me. I did a complete reinstall of the newest MIUI.us, and now Market's FCing again. So can't install any Market apps.
As someone else said, turning SSID off is pointless. It's like taking the numbers off the outside of your house and thinking people driving by won't see your house sitting there.
Apparently you didn't understand what I said here:
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Ok, but sure passive scanners like Kismet will still see me, however 90% of scans are done with an active scanner like Winduhs. Of course I'm using WPA2-AES, but I want to take every measure possible.
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If nothing else, please just respect my decision in this regard, or give valid proof that active scanners are not the preponderance.
So I'm in the army right now, which means there's a TV but no WiFi available.
I did think of just setting up a Hotspot with another phone but it gets pretty annoying having to have 2 people at all time.
So I went digging in the Internet and found someone at a random forum (can't find it now for credit..), that said that If you set up the Hotspot in your own phone and configure it with another one you don't need the other one around anymore - being the Hotspot works as being connected to it.
Now I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any reason I couldn't set it up on my own phone (the hotspot), except the Google home app just demands I connect to the WiFi network, which I can't do because you can't connect to yourself sadly.
I think if someone made some changes to the Google home app, or made an alternative set up app it could work. I have no idea how to code an app, so I came here ?
tl:dr I Want an app that does the same as the home app for setting chromecast up, but without checking if I'm connected to a WiFi network. (I think)
I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
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I'm guessing that you have no WiFi but you do have a hard line internet connection?
The only issue with what I'm going to suggest is that base rules may prohibit creating a WiFi access point on any of their hardline connections.
But the best solution for you is to buy a Portable Router (see posts here about using CCast in a Hotel).
It's a small box about the size of a DC transformer that plugs into the outlet and also any Network to create a small footprint WiFi access point.
I suggest looking for a model that also has Repeater mode that allows it to connect to another WiFi access point to create your own private network as opposed to a hard line.
It is probably the best way to use a CCast in places where WiFi is not available without having to play with Phone Hotspot which doesn't always work due to the fact the hotspot can't control the CCast in that mode.
The other Option that is most likely to be allowed is to add a WiFi puck to your Mobile account. Then there would be no potential compromising of the Military network (which is why they might not allow the Portable Router to be used) and you would no longer need two phones to run the CCast.
CCast definitely needs Internet so that Puck might be the safest and best way forward for you.
As for what you read...The issue is that if the Phone goes out of range it stops working.
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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
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Actually, no Internet at all, just mobile data, but since I got 15 gigs it's OK for me to use it.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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Then I suggest getting the WiFi puck and adding it to your data account.
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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
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To be honest, it is a good idea but my I was mainly wondering if I could solve it via software which is both easier obviously and also I just wanted to know if it's actually possible since I thought of it and I wanna know if I got it right
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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Not really...All the hacks and such that people try simply don't work well due to the fact that the Phone can't really connect to the same subnet as the Hotspot. When you go into Hotspot mode you can't also connect to that hotspot internally because WiFi is no longer available to the phone.
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That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
exeLz said:
That's why i suggested tempering with the app so it treats being a Hotspot as if u were with WiFi on connected to one.
Basically take off the check for being connected to WiFi.
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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
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The issue isn't the app...It's the fact that the WiFi in your phone can only do one thing at a time....BE an Access Point or CONNECT to an access point.
It can't connect to itself as the radio can't do both things at once.
So when you go into hotspot there is no way to get on the same subnet as the hotspot with the phone.
Because there is no network adapter available to connect to it. It is too busy being an access point.
Basically going into hotspot turns the Phone into a router. A router the phone has no way to connect to. So you either need another device to connect to that phone router or find some other router with internet.
Which is what the Cellular Puck will give you.
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Like I said, once the setup is done, being the Hotspot is just like being connected to is. The app still doesn't recognize you're connected but if you're on the web the chromecast icon does pop up when needed, all the third party apps do recognize you as being connected.
All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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All you managed to do with Google Home (which can't be edited by anyone but Google)on the second phone is connect your CCast to the Phone Hotspot for it's Internet. There is no way to avoid that setup....HOWEVER...
As long as you don't set it up to connect to some other Hotspot there is no need to run Home again, Just turn on Hotspot and it should reconnect.
It will even remember the password,
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Yea I know, but sometimes friends take it or something and it's a pain in the ass to explain everything, and even when I do it means I gotta reconnect at my end again which is annoying just thought someone could maybe find a solution that sounded really simple for me, guess not, too bad..
Thanks anyway!
Well trying to recode Home is a dead end....Android wouldn't even let you install it!
You guys should just chip in and buy the puck.
It will even let you use Tablets and Laptops as well as simplify the CCast use.
I know this is an older post; not sure if you are still interested. I read all the replies and not sure what to make of it as far as if anyone had a working solution or not. No disrespect to anyone, but I couldn't tell for sure so I'm posting a link to my solution which does work. The two important steps are included. One is using " other wifi" in the drop down list when searching for your hotspot. The second is enabling GUEST MODE.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help/how-to-cast-screen-android-phone-to-t4032653
I’m trying something similar with a Chromecast 3rd gen and iPhone 5S (iOS 12). Main issue seems to be guest mode doesn’t work at all on any apps, and pretty much every solution i’ve seen to this results in guest mode being used for the eventual casting. If you have android or iOS 13 then ymmv.
The only solution i’ve found are workarounds, the obvious being
1) don’t buy a chromecast (it’s not much of a solution but hey it’s $30).
2) use a secondary device to cast.
3) use a tethered travel router, and this can be done with only a phone and mobile data for internet, but there’s a catch:
First i’d Recommend any router by GLi.net (cheapest “mango” router is about $20) as they support iOS and android and both WiFi and usb tethering.
Also, i’ve Tried using a WiFi hotspot on the phone, and it’s the same issue - no connection to the chromecast regardless of how. However... iPhones will allow you to create a hotspot using *only* cables usb tethering, so if you set the router up to *only* accept internet via cables tether (turn off WiFi/repeater tethering), then you can have both the chromecast and iPhone connect to the routers WiFi, whilst providing net access to the router (and WiFi network) from the same iphone’s mobile data via usb. Simple howoto:
Important: Turn OFF WiFi on the phone, and turn off hotspot.
Connect phone to router via usb, accept trust settings.
Turn on personal hotspot, you’ll get a message asking whether to use WiFi or just usb (andbluetooth if it’s also turned on). Select just usb/Bluetooth.
Wait until blue connection bar shows on phone (if not, make sure routers setup properly to gain net via usb tethering).
Now, turn on WiFi on the phone, and connect to routers WiFi.
Setup chromecast as normal, selecting to connect to routers WiFi too.
Note turning hotspot off and on again whilst WiFi is running will start a hotspot on WiFi and disconnect you from router WiFi, so you’ll always have to go through process of turning WiFi off, turn hotspot on, turn WiFi on.
So you can do this with the right router and a usb connection to phone. Or maybe android and working guest mode. Otheriwse, ...fire tv anyone?