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Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
Wow. Am I the only one on here who's having this problem?? Lucky me, I guess... :S
Anyway, I just tried connecting to a public and open wifi network here in SF, but my Kaiser still wouldn't connect. Guess that confirms it: my WiFi adapter is defective.
Anyone know if I can get it replaced in a different store from where I purchased it, and what I need to take (hope it's just the phone)?
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Wow. Am I the only one on here who's having this problem?? Lucky me, I guess... :S
Anyway, I just tried connecting to a public and open wifi network here in SF, but my Kaiser still wouldn't connect. Guess that confirms it: my WiFi adapter is defective.
Anyone know if I can get it replaced in a different store from where I purchased it, and what I need to take (hope it's just the phone)?
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just tried my wifi on the tilt ... works fine out of the box (to my home secured wireless network)
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
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This is what I did. Start->settings->connections tab->WiFI. Now you should see your routers name there with the signal bar next to it. Tap AND Hold the name, then go to settings or edit(I forget), then click NEXT, uncheck the box that says "the key is automatically provided"(thats for open access routers/networks that dont require codes). Then type in your code & make sure you specify what key # it is. click next and youre done. You should be able to connect.
silly question here. is your router broadcasting 802.11b or g? the wifi won't connect to anything else.
You might also check your AP to see if it's not broadcasting its SSID to the world (a common security setting). I couldn't connect until I enabled broadcast on my AP, set the network up, and then went back and disabled SSID broadcast.
Why in the hell this is a problem in the first place is beyond me, but this is the third smartphone/PDA with wireless that I've had to do that for. And every time, once the device found the network once, it never had a problem finding it again.
Believe me. I tried everything in the WiFi settings page. I edited the settings, removed them and added them again, and like I said before I even went and changed my security settings on my router (which to answer your question, zeta, it broadcasts in: n, g, and b. Same router worked with my Apache/XV6700).
Anyway, I stopped by the store where I bought it today and they told me that as far as he can tell, that does qualify for a replacement. The problem is they don't have any in stock to replace it with, and he has no idea when they'll be getting more in. They only received 2 on launch day, and I bought one of those. He did mention that I can get it replaced at any store, however, but they all might be in the same boat.
Guess I'll try another store tomorrow, but if not I guess I'll have to go through AT&T's tech support (don't like the sound of that) and get it replaced through them. So I guess this means I might have a few days to mess around with the phone and even try some risky thangs.
So if any of you developers and hackers, er, I mean tweakers need some1 to test something, I can be that guinea pig (for a while at least)... Just give me a shout.
To troubleshoot your wireless connection always try ruling out as many other factors as possible. So put your router to NO security (temporarily ofcourse) and have it broadcast 802.11g. Also make sure you add the mac address of your device to the list in your router, if it uses mac address filtering. Try connecting to it with a laptop and see if that goes fine. Work systematically...
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You might also check your AP to see if it's not broadcasting its SSID to the world (a common security setting). I couldn't connect until I enabled broadcast on my AP, set the network up, and then went back and disabled SSID broadcast.
Why in the hell this is a problem in the first place is beyond me, but this is the third smartphone/PDA with wireless that I've had to do that for. And every time, once the device found the network once, it never had a problem finding it again.
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I have a similar Problem, your solution works partly for me:
As soon as I enable the AP to broadcast it's ID, Kaiser connects.
But as soon as the ID is hidden, it does not connect.
Weird.
Is it a security problem if the ID is broadcasted, provided I use WPA2-PSK/AES?
Thanks
V
No. Hiding the SSID really only protects you from folks that are wandering around without any tools. Open up a more fully featured scanner, and it'll pull the SSID out of the air. The encryption is much, much more important.
And I also wouldn't bother with MAC filtering. Changing the MAC address is usually a software setting, so it's not all that much additional security. WPA/WPA2 are much better solutions.
Yeah, the hidden SSID is not an issue with me, since I don't mind broadcasting it at home. Not too paranoid about it. If someone *really* wanted to sniff and break into my network, they could. Don't do much important and highly confidential stuff at home anyway.
Plus, like Perf mentioned, there's software out there, even for PocketPCs, that will find so-called "hidden" SSIDs. Thanks for your suggestions, anyway.
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Yeah, the hidden SSID is not an issue with me, since I don't mind broadcasting it at home. Not too paranoid about it. If someone *really* wanted to sniff and break into my network, they could. Don't do much important and highly confidential stuff at home anyway.
Plus, like Perf mentioned, there's software out there, even for PocketPCs, that will find so-called "hidden" SSIDs. Thanks for your suggestions, anyway.
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i had no issue connecting to my wrt54g running DD-WRT v23 SP2 with my SSID hidden with WEP enabled. when setting up a new connection, i just entered the name of the connection and then the WEP hex, and it connected flawlessly. Have fun hacking your phone until you can swap?
Mine is not working either. I exchanged the phone and found out that I was the 3rd person with the same problem.
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Mine is not working either. I exchanged the phone and found out that I was the 3rd person with the same problem.
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Glad to hear, I'm not the only one.
I exchanged my phone this morning, and I just tried connecting to my wireless network and guess what??
I'm getting the SAME RESULTS.
Now, before anyone goes and tells me that my router is the problem or that it's user error, then tell me: why does my laptop, PS3 and my Wii connect just fine?? I even changed the SSID and WPA key last night and they all connected w/o a problem as well. All except my freaking Tilt.
Can be it a coincidence that I got 2 bad phones? I don't know if I should call the store and tell them to hold up on sending the other phone to HTC.
Which reminds me, I probably should try calling HTC today, but I doubt they'll be much help...
I don't think you're nuts, and I doubt you got two bad phones. But if you want to double-check, take the phone to your local Starbucks or other shop with WiFi and see if it can detect that AP.
But at this point, I'd be inclined to look for a firmware upgrade for your AP. I could be that it's not supporting long or short preambles right (a problem for some devices in the past), doesn't like seeing more than XXX different devices, or just doesn't like your phone much.
Either way, I'm smelling an issue with your AP. I had a US Robotics AP/Router that drove me nuts because it would spontaneously reboot after a random period any time an IPSec VPN was present.
try setting the power mode on best performance. when i do that i stay connected to wifi.
I took both my old I730 and my tilt to the coffee shop before I returned my first tilt. I was able to connect my I730 at the coffee shop and home, but couldn't connect the tilt at either place. I also tried some open AP's in my neighborhood that I have been able to connect to in the past with the same results. Picky phone or bad wifi radios maybe.
Jesus... like the bloke said:
1) Turn off wpa and see if it will connect (it will unless you have set your N router to only use "n") If it won't then send it back.
2) If it does... then turn on WEP 128bit on your router... and use that instead.
WM devices have always had problems with WPA...
Hi all.
I have tried my HTC TyTN II with one Wifi LinkSys WAG54GS Router using WPA and not hidding the SSID and works fine, no problem at all.
Test with one AP from DLink at the office, using hidden SSID and WEP 64 and 128 Bits and no problem at all, works as fine as my LinkSys.
I'm going to try hidde the SSID at home with WPA and WPA2 and post the results later to know if there is a common issue with Kaiser or some freaky coincidence.
Regards.
d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
Hello Everyone,
I'm looking for either a confirmation that my my WLAN is bad, or suggestions on other things I should try before taking it back in for replacement.
Searching and browsing through the forums I didn't see anyone mention any of the problems I'm having so I'm assuming I'm the only one (or one of very few) that bought a Kaiser with a defective Wifi radio.
Here's the symptoms:
I tried connecting to my wireless connection at home maybe a day or two after I bought my Tilt (last Friday). My home connection is draft 802.11n with WPA2-PSK security.
So I enable the WLAN and it detects my Wifi network and it asks for the key. I input it and then it tries to connect, but... it never does. I tried it a few times consecutively and it still didn't work (I get the animating arrows and the 'halo' around the beacon, but then it goes away, and it just keeps doing that). Now, I've seen this before with on my XV6700 with a beta ROM of WM6, but I know well HTC and AT&T wouldn't release something with broken WPA/2 support. At least HTC, I thought...
So I unlocked my Tilt and loaded the factory Kaiser ROM I downloaded from here, and well, WPA2 didn't work on it either. Weird, I thought, so I searched forums and no one mentioned any of this. So I changed my security settings on my network to WPA-PSK (from WPA2) and that made no difference at all... I don't want to bore y'all with everything else I tried, but to sum it up, I then tried a WPA fix I found on PPCGeeks, but that just ended up making my WLAN staying disabled, so I unintalled that and I decided I would try it with a WEP or Open wireless network.
Well, this morning I did just that and even when I try to connect to a wireless connection with WEP, I get the same behavior when I tried this at home with WPA. I've triple checked the WEP key, and I know it's right.
I haven't tried it on an Open network yet, but I'm assuming I'm going to get the same results. I'll have to find a wireless router no one's connected to so that I can try this out, but it might take me a while. Should I even waste anymore time on this? Anyone else here having (or had) the same problem?
I might start loading the AT&T ROM on this soon so I can take it back, but if any of you have any suggestions, I'm all ears.
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I found that I couldn't get my Kaiser to connect to my WPA encrypted LAN - open access and WEP (64 and 128 bit) work fine.
Not sure what the problem is - maybe some incompatibility between the Kaiser and my Netgear router. I've downgraded the security to 128bit WEP for the time being but I'm hoping that there's a fix soon.
Been working with WinMsoft to get thier Handy Sniffer product to work on my TytnII. If any of you like myself have tried other sniffers on your TytnII, you probably have been disappointed. New version 1.2 has support for our TNETW12511 wireless 802.11 adapters! Full promiscuous mode enabled! I have it working on my HTC TytnII with factory Kaiser ROM.
http://winm-soft.atspace.com/
1. Install the software
2. Turn your 802.11 adapter OFF via comm mangager
3. Start Handy Sniffer, click on Capture to select your IEEE 802.11b/g Compatible Wi-Fi Adapter
4. Select any filters you want to engage
5. Make sure Promiscuous Mode and Extended Mode is checked.
6. Place a check mark in the Capture box to start the capture or just click start.
7. Re-enable your wireless adapter in Comm Manager and watch the packets come streaming in!!
Seems cool but can you explain what exactly this program does?
Definition of a packet sniffer:
http://www.atis.org/tg2k/_packet_sniffer.html
I can only see the PPC<->Router packets.. not really promiscuous for me atm.. Cant see the traffic from my laptop
unksr00t said:
I can only see the PPC<->Router packets.. not really promiscuous for me atm.. Cant see the traffic from my laptop
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Are you connected through a switch?
ADSL Wireless Router
unksr00t said:
I can only see the PPC<->Router packets.. not really promiscuous for me atm.. Cant see the traffic from my laptop
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Should be able to see traffic to/from any other PC connected to the wireless access point.
I learned that through my CCNP/and Msc in Telecoms
The LAN side of your router probably functions as a switch. As a result you wouldn't see all traffic from the computers on the LAN side. You would only see all traffic if it were a hub or if you did something like poisoned your ARP cache.
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The LAN side of your router probably functions as a switch. As a result you wouldn't see all traffic from the computers on the LAN side. You would only see all traffic if it were a hub or if you did something like poisoned your ARP cache.
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Yes I have seen that as well. The wired connections somtimes cannot be seen due to it acting as a switch, however wireless traffic is out in the open.
I'm DYING for a passive mode sniffer for the kaiser, but I couldn't get this one working. When I check "extended mode", fire up the WLAN and start capturing I get an error: "Anomalies: 0x7". And I see no packets (not even from my router).
I'm using a custom ROM though - maybe I'll flash back to the stock rom to see if it makes a difference. I really want to get a sniffer working.
Ah, I spoke too soon. It does work - kind of.
It does, in fact, capture packets in promiscuous mode, but only after I've connected andauthenticated to the access point.
I was hoping this tool was going to let me see client's and access points without requiring me to connect to the network.
cryptyk said:
Ah, I spoke too soon. It does work - kind of.
It does, in fact, capture packets in promiscuous mode, but only after I've connected andauthenticated to the access point.
I was hoping this tool was going to let me see client's and access points without requiring me to connect to the network.
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Me too :-(
cryptyk said:
Ah, I spoke too soon. It does work - kind of.
It does, in fact, capture packets in promiscuous mode, but only after I've connected andauthenticated to the access point.
I was hoping this tool was going to let me see client's and access points without requiring me to connect to the network.
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No sniffer I have ever used will allow traffic monitoring without first joining the network. The only thing I've seen that even comes close is a linux distro called Backtrack2, but that is primarily designed to discover WEP/WAP encryption keys by essentially sending out false failed connect packets and reading the access points replies. But that is way beyond the scope of this forum.
Almost all of the discovery applications capture packets without being authenticated to the network. NetStumbler(Win)/MiniStumbler(PPC), WiFiFoFum(PPC), Kismet(*nix), AirSnort(*nix), etc.
That's how they find Access Points without authenticating. All of the ones for the ppc, however, run the card in an active mode which will only locate access points and ad-hoc clients. The benefit of promiscuous mode is that it lets you see traffic from all devices in range. This software does that for authenticated networks, but apparently ignores or doesn't display the packets the card is receiving for non-auth'd networks.
Closer though. These guys are the first I've heard of that put the card into passive mode on the Kaiser. Hopefully they'll update the software to show at least MAC IDs and SSIDs from non-auth'd clients and APs.
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Almost all of the discovery applications capture packets without being authenticated to the network. NetStumbler(Win)/MiniStumbler(PPC), WiFiFoFum(PPC), Kismet(*nix), AirSnort(*nix), etc.
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Never seen any of those able to capture traffic without authenticating on the wireless network. Perhaps I am missing somthing. Yes they can detect the access points, they will give you the mac address and other vital info, but they will not allow you to monitor network packets without joining the network. Am I wrong?
If I am mistaken please provide how netstumbler (or any others that you list, Iv'e used them all) can capture traffic without joining the network in question. Even Kismet and Airsnort require you to join the network before client detection can take place. Or am I just wrong?
Well here's written allot of bullsh*
No "Sniffer" can just Sniff packages from an encrypted wlan without autentificate on the Wlan or what ever... the clue is, that WEP/WPA is an encryption of the traffic, so you can't sniff it directly. Yes you can see cryptic packages, but not the real content.
Kismet and Aircrack try to crack/break the encryption... and THEN when you have the Key to the network you can sniff what ever you want, because you can now read the stuff flying around in the air.
Netstrumbler doens't see the real content of the packages @all. But through the MAC address of the Access-Point (Wlan router) and some header information of the encrypted packages, it can find out the RSSID, the Channel it is running on and the encryption type of the Wlan.
So the usage of the Tools would be...
1. Use Netstrumbler to find the network and get some basic informations.
2. Use Kismet/Aircrack to crack/break/find the WEP/WPA key to encrypt the pakages.
3. Use the sniffer to capture the decrypted stuff flying around....
slowatsch said:
Well here's written allot of bullsh*
No "Sniffer" can just Sniff packages from an encrypted wlan without autentificate on the Wlan or what ever... the clue is, that WEP/WPA is an encryption of the traffic, so you can't sniff it directly. Yes you can see cryptic packages, but not the real content.
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Wrong!...but a little right. Network General, like most legit (paid for sniffers), do not need to be associated to the network in order to capture packets. Yes they are encrypted packets but if you are using the sniffer for legit reasons then you have the key/auth already and are analyzing your own network for issues and see all the packet data you need.
slowatsch said:
No "Sniffer" can just Sniff packages from an encrypted wlan without autentificate on the Wlan or what ever... the clue is, that WEP/WPA is an encryption of the traffic, so you can't sniff it directly. Yes you can see cryptic packages, but not the real content.
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This isn't accurate. I can capture your traffic over the air and:
If it's WEP, figure out the key from the traffic I've captured, and decrypt it all after the fact.
If it's an earlier version of WPA, I can do the same.
If it's a later version of WPA/WPA2, it's gonna be hard, but not necessarily impossible. If I know the key, it will be considerably easier.
There is no such thing as "unbreakable" encryption. Just encryption that takes a long, long time to crack. But once I've got the key, I can decrypt things that I've already captured.
When i go to select my adapter i keep getting "Cannot get adapters list!" Are there other options that i am not aware of? Ive been looking for a promisc sniffer for this ever since i picked it up!
I just purchased the Tilt and love the features and possibilities, however I may be forced to return it if I cannot solve this problem.
I can connect the Tilt to my home WiFi network (Open/WEP) without any problems, and I can connect to several other APs (Open/Encrypted and No-Encrypt) without any problems.
In my office (where it'll be used the most) we use Cisco's lightweight access points with the WCS controller system. This system is configured with Open authentication and no encryption, and has a captive portal that you must login to in order to gain access to the network.
When I connect to this network, I stay connected for about 30-45 seconds (I can ping the Tilt from my wireless laptop for about that long), and then the Tilt stops responding on the network. The WiFi status says that it is reassociating with the network, but it never does. I can manually tell it to connect to the network, but that fails, too. While this is occurring, I can see all of the SSIDs (including ones not on the Cisco controller) that are available in our office, but cannot connect to any of those, either.
After a soft reset, I can connect to any of the other SSIDs with no problem until I try to connect to any of the SSIDs that are on the Cisco controller. After trying that, it repeats the same pattern and I must reset the Tilt before it will connect to any other access point.
I've actually done some wireless captures and cannot see any problems with the communication between the Cisco APs and the Tilt. It's just that after this "malfunction", the Tilt will successfully perform the normal 802.11 open-mode authentication, but will never proceed to the association phase.
I've talked to AT&T and HTC, and they told me my phone may be defective and to try a new phone. I've done that now, but it is still doing the same thing.
Has anyone had any similar experience?
Thanks!
This was a similar issue with my phone[Similar by reassociating with network, and soft reset], except it was on a campus[uses cisco] and not office! Basically i just had to register my kaiser's mac address with the school, and everything worked perfectly. Hopefully this helps!
That's an interesting observation. A campus network would be similar to my (large) office network.
Before you registered your MAC with the school, were you able to browse to anything?
I ask because our network doesn't require MAC addr's to be registered. It allows anyone onto the network as a "guest" and then you have to browse to a web page that lets you login to get Internet access.
But, the fact that you had to do a soft reset to get it working again is quite interesting, and points to a bug with WM6 or the device.
The Cisco WCS has some protection against DoS/etc. Maybe the tilt is doing something that's causing the WCS controller to think your device is a bad-guy and it places you on a blacklist. I think by default the WCS has a blacklist timer of about 5 mins... can't remember now. Could be what's happening though if after a reset you can't see the WCS SSID anymore.
That's a great point, too. We don't have any of the IDS/IPS functions that you're referring to turned on, but there's always those hidden features
We ran a quick test and watched the debug output of the WCS and didn't see any messages to indicate foul play.
It turns out that this problem was specific to Cisco's WLAN implementation. Cisco has a set of wireless extensions called CCX that are implemented on wireless devices (clients) to aid the infrastructure in managing the radio environment, location management, roaming, etc.
Apparently the WiFi chipset and/or drivers on the Tilt do not implement CCX (as 90% of other radios and drivers do), so when the WLAN sent a broadcast out asking for radio management reports, the Tilt's WiFi stack would just freak out.
We were able to work around this by disabling the CCX Location Measurement function in our Cisco 4400 series WLAN controller.
It would be nice to see an update from AT&T and HTC to fix this problem.
same thing happened to me.. same cisco wlse and same pda.. i also have to disable CCX. but it is quite useful feature of WLSE. i hope htc can fix it.
knoll said:
It turns out that this problem was specific to Cisco's WLAN implementation. Cisco has a set of wireless extensions called CCX that are implemented on wireless devices (clients) to aid the infrastructure in managing the radio environment, location management, roaming, etc.
Apparently the WiFi chipset and/or drivers on the Tilt do not implement CCX (as 90% of other radios and drivers do), so when the WLAN sent a broadcast out asking for radio management reports, the Tilt's WiFi stack would just freak out.
We were able to work around this by disabling the CCX Location Measurement function in our Cisco 4400 series WLAN controller.
It would be nice to see an update from AT&T and HTC to fix this problem.
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Anyone know if a new driver is part of WM 6.1? I am holding out for the official AT&T version but was just wondering since I have this problem with the wifi at school.
Hello This guide is made up from the knowledge i have build up from advice given on XDA and information on other sites.
I have found this very useful in my home and hope you do to.
First off, this guide explains everything you need to do to use your diamond as the access point to the internet at home for all devices. (PC's, PS3, XBOX360, Wii)
It is highly recommended that you have a unlimited data allowance!!!!! Otherwise you could have a hefty bill at the end of the month.
Right what you will need :
A Diamond with an unlimited data allowance tariff,
A WiFi router (i have used an old router that was installed with Tiscali BB)
WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (please find this your self i will not provide it)
and some basic knowledge of networking on PC's and your devices.
Thats it. Please don't be put off by the networking side of things its really easy to do.
Right first off we need to get your diamond taking to your router.
switch on your router and let it do its thing for 2-4 mins
Connect your diamond to the wifi router by switching on your wifi in settings, communications on touchflow, when prompted, connect to your router and enter your network key.
THIS IS THE SAME PROCESS AS CONNECTING TO A WIFI HOTSPOT.
Its that simple.
Next switch off your wifi in settings, communications.
Install WMWifiRouter version 0.80 (Simple and stable)
once installed open WMWifiRouter and press connect.
This should then setup your phone to be used as a access point and connect to your wireless network all at once.
Once it says connected you can turn off your phones main screen by pressing the off switch at the top and put your phone where there is best signal! HSDPA is needed to get up 7.2mbps (little H in signal area)
Right now you need to setup your laptop or device to talk to the phone via your router!
So here are the settings you need to setup in either TCP/IP (manual connection) or a manual connection on your device (PS3, Wii, XBOX360).
I will use a laptops connection as a example because all you need to do is to copy the settings to another device using a different IP address.
If you use wifi or a hardwired connection, right click the telly with the wifi connection in the bottom right of the screen and click open network connections (XP only dont know for vista), Or if the telly is not displayed in the bottom righthand cornner of the task bar then click start, control panel, network connections.
Click on the connection you wish to use i.e local area connection or wireless network connection (you can setup both connections by repeating these steps on each connection)
this should bring up a general tab of this connection, click properties.
This will bring up another box with the network properties, all you need to do is manually enter your IP settings and DNS settings so double click on "internet protocol [TCP/IP]"
Another box appears.
Click "use the following IP address"
In IP address type "192.168.0.xxx" xxx being the unique 3 digit code of your choice, write this down for your firewall settings on other devices if you run a networked drive etc. Each new device will need its own unique 3 digit code ie PC = 192.168.0.100, XBOX360 = 192.168.0.200, Wii = 192.168.0.123 etc.
In Subnet mask type "255.255.255.0"
In Default gate way type "192.168.0.1
Now click "Use the following DNS server address"
In preferred DNS server type "192.168.0.1"
Thats it, press ok and ok on any other boxes still left open.
Your network device will rest your IP and DNS settings to the ones you have just entered, thus allowing you computer to access the mobiles phones internet connection via your router
On all your devices Manually setup all your connections using these settings and they will all use your mobile phone to connect to the internet.
Using DHCP to configure your network is not advised as its unreliable at finding your phones connection.
Now if you want to start using your phone as a phone again, open up WMWifiRouter again if its not already and click options Quit.
To get internet access on other devices via your phone again all you need to do is to start WMWifiRouter and press connect. Start using the internet!!!
If you wish to use your laptop on another hotspot, you will need to reset the TCP/IP settings back to automatic, otherwise it will not work.
Using this process sometimes causes the phone to disable its own internet connection, so a soft reset after exiting WMWifiRouter is recommended.
Have fun, im sorry if its all a little messy but i have never been very good at writing these guides.
If any modd wants to add or edit this post then please feel free. any persons wanting to add to this guide please do so.
Yes i know you can connect your phone to your laptop by USB, Bluetooth, but this method allows multiple devices to use the same phone to access the internet at the same time and via a access point at the highest possible speed, so games consoles can use it!!! Brilliant if you get a good HSDPA signal and live in the country.
Oh one last thing! if you are a youngster and wish to try this, please do so on other equipment, don't use your family's main router and laptop or PC unless its no longer in use!!!
Thank You
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
Cheers
Thanks for reading
Its does work, In my home i no longer have a land line or cable broadband i just have one bill a month which is my phone bill of £41 including insurance on my device and i get every thing, i have saved my self a fortune per year doing this, that was my reason anyway hehe L8rs
mgs333 said:
i haven't tried it myself but thanks for posting the guide.
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I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Thank you good luck with the move
kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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kaos_king said:
I also havent tired it because i have broadband at home, but i am moving out soon and so will have a period of time where i have no internet so will use this guide.
Cheers for writing it up. My networking knowledge is above basic and all your steps made sense - good work
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Because the data going through the phone will really heat up the phone, as a side benefit you'll be able to use it as both a heater, and a stove until your appliances are hooked up.
Just how many torrents does it take to boil 1 cup of water?
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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your are correct, if you use WMWfiRouter directly with with your computer it does seem slow and you also get a lot of drop outs as well for that reason i stopped using months ago and was using bluetooth edr. But using this method respose times are much much quicker (to be honest i dont know why) and it is just as fast as using with USB, i know i have tested it. Im on orange UK, i get constant 1.6mbps down and 360kbps up with two bars connected the HSDPA network.
Im using it right now to reply to this thread, i got rid of my land lane and broadband connection because this is that stable and fast!
As for heating issues (poster above) once its connected and you turn off the screen, i have never had a issue. i even keep it in its HTC pouch in case it falls of the shelf its on lol.
The only problem i have come across which is more of a annoyance than anything is that when someone phones you it can slow your connection not always though, a soft reset fixes the issue.
Any more questions feel free.
chribruu said:
I tried out wmwifirouter with my laptop and I must say it's quite slow compared to connecting the phone with USB and using internet sharing, any clue why? Nice guide btw, will be used when needed
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Hey guys, I'm a long time lurker, first time thread-starter, and I hope there is a simple solution to this.
This is more of a proof-of-concept question, and since the PS3 is capable of connecting to a tethering application I figured an XB could as well.
Recently, I updated my Captivate's ROM to the SREv1.3.1c (it was the ROM before he renamed it to Cognition). One of the added benefits was the addition of the Mobile Access POint, which is way better than PDANet in my opinion, but I digress.
Anyway, I've managed to turn the AP on and get it to connect to a PS3 with no issues and very little lag, which was awesome. However, the XBox is being a pain in the ***. i can go to my network connections on the XB, and my wireless attachment "sees" the connection just fine. It also connects and pulls both a IP and DNS server address. I even get 5 bars of great signal.
But when I run a XBL test, when it tries to connect to the internet it craps the bed and does nothing. Now, I've seen people get XBL to connect over similar tethering apps, even PDANet with its shaky connection issues, but I can't seem to figure this one out. As far as I can tell, maybe 3G has too high of a latency to be compatable, but I figured I'd ask the experts of XDA. Can anyone help?
Did I forget to say please or something? Any pointers?
Hey just wondering what is your configuration. like are you connecting with wi-fi from the phone, do you have a laptop to use? that is one of the easiest ways. or are you just usb direct into the console?
Well presently I'm using MobileAP which broadcasts a wifi signal that my laptop can pick up (it's how I'm typing this at the moment as well). It can be seen, like I said, but the XB won't get past the internet part of the diagnostic test.
I also had PDAnet installed a while ago so I know how to usb tether but couldnt get that to work on XBL either.