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HTC S710 'Vox' to TyTn II (Kaiser) - Migration, How do I get my data/sms/etc across

Hi all,
I need some help please. I received my TyTn II yesterday and now I need to shift all my data (contacts, tasks, sms, etc.) across to the TyTn II before selling my S710.
I know I can use Outlook syncing to get the contacts and tasks across, but can someone please confirm exactly what process I should use as I've previously had syncs wipe the data on my PC when connecting a fresh phone to try and get data onto it. I have already been using the S710 to sync with Outlook 2007 on this PC (ActiveSync 4.5).
Also, can someone please tell me how to get my texts (sms) onto the TyTn II from the S710? - I've got Sprite Backup 6 on the S710, but I don't know whether the "upgrade" backup file option will work between a WM6 Smartphone and a WM6 Professional device. I've actually tried to restore just the "personal databases" from an S710 backup onto my TyTn II but the SMS's don't show up, only call lists and contacts.
Any help and/or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
- Odie

Get PIMBackup. It's somewhere on the Forum here, and can backup your TXT messages fine!
Heck, I actually used it last week to copy 2600 SMS messages from my Nokia N80 (outputted to .csv) into my Kaiser...
It works great!

I don't actually think that DotFred's PPCPIMbackup - to give it its' real name - will work on a SmartPhone....as the name suggests, it's for "PPC" or Pocket PC devices.
You could ask the man himself - post in the thread in the Development & Hacking forum HERE, or visit his website DotFred.net.
Mark.

Thanks for the suggestions.
I think it might work if I can get my Vox SMS output as CSV, I think I've seen a program that does this. Then I can use PPCPIMbackup to import them into the Kaiser.

contacts, mail, agenda can be synch with outlook
for sms you can save them to SIM

Thanks for all of your replies.
As I had hoped, the contacts and tasks synced successfully from my laptop's Outlook 2007 (after getting the latest stuff synced from my S710)
Notes seem to have messed up in that my multi-line notes have been split into multiple single-line notes. I'm not too fussed about this as I didn't have that many notes anyway, but it's a little disappointing.
Now as for the SMS, I managed to get it done pretty painlessly using a fantastic program called Jeyo Mobile Companion (it runs on the PC rather than the device itself). It supports both WM Smartphone and WM Professional, and exports the SMS database as an XML file, which I then managed to import onto my Kaiser. Everything went smoothly, all items seem to be present and in the correct folders too. Fantastic!
- Odie

Hi to all
I have a problem related to import sms into TYTN II. I have all my old sms that I received on my Samsung D500 in a csv file, but I cant import into TYTN II because Jeyo doesn't read csv and also PIM backup restore only pib file..
Is there any solution??
Thanks

Redah said:
Get PIMBackup. It's somewhere on the Forum here, and can backup your TXT messages fine!
Heck, I actually used it last week to copy 2600 SMS messages from my Nokia N80 (outputted to .csv) into my Kaiser...
It works great!
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A bit out of topic: What is the format of the csv file?
I'm trying to import my sms's from my K800

alt236 said:
A bit out of topic: What is the format of the csv file?
I'm trying to import my sms's from my K800
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CSV stand for Comma separated value and means that the value [in contact are Name, Surname, Number, etc...] are separated by the comma "," or other punctuation... Wikipedia This format can be open with Excel and convert to xls format...
Do you have your sms in csv format?? How can you import in the TYTN??
Thanks
Bye

I know waht csv is
I was asking for the csv format (the column order, wether or not text should be double quote enclosed) that PIMBackup is using for importing the sms.
I got them into a csv file using Float's Mobile Agent it should work for almost all Sony Ericsson mobiles.

alt236 said:
I know waht csv is
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Sorry, misunderstood...
alt236 said:
I was asking for the csv format (the column order, wether or not text should be double quote enclosed) that PIMBackup is using for importing the sms.
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I made a backup with "Binary backup" disable and PIMBackup made a .pib file that I opened with 7zip and I found a .csm file. I opened it with Notepad and I found this code for the csv:
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Msg Id;Sender Name;Sender Address;Sender AddressType;Prefix;Subject;Body;BodyType;Folder;Account;Msg Class;Content Length;Msg Size;Msg Flags;Msg Status;Modify Time;Delivery Time;Recipient Nbr;Recipients;Attachment Nbr;Attachments
Now i will try to edit this csm with my csv info and try to restore... I hope thet it works...

Here is how to get rid of outlook e-mail from messages!

As I have been sifting through the forum I have come across several threads about people wanting to know how to get rid of outlook e-mail from messages.
The e-mail I have set up on my kaiser is the same as my outlook on my pc, so when I sync I get duplicate e-mails and have to disable the option to sync mail with pc, but this still leaves the outlook account in messages.
Well here's how to get rid of it.
First you will need a registry editor, I recommend Resco Registry editor but others will work fine.
Then you will need to make a backup of the registry key we are going to delete. So open up your registry editor and go to: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc
Now in here you will find several folders(so to speak). These include Activesync, imap4, pop3, MMS1 and SMS.
Go into Activesync and their should be a key called "Friendly Name" this should say something like "Outlook" go back to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc then select the "Activesync" folder and use menu to export the folder as a .reg file (backup file) then select the "Activesync" folder again, but this time delete it.
Now close your reg editor and go into messages and the Outlook title should be replaced with the title Activesync. Just soft-reset your device and the Outlook mailbox including "Activesync" has now disappeared leaving just the e-mail accounts and other message accounts that you use whilst mobile.
Should you wish to restore this option just inport the .reg file you created into the registry and soft-reset and it'll be back.
Well I hope this helps. And quick thanks to all members of this forum for your continued support to the community and even helping the little guys.
diigibio (diigimatrix)

worked on my Tilt
Thanks! Great solution!
EDIT: Wiped out my outgoing MMS. Dropped registry backup back in and both MMS and Outlook Mail were back.

diigibio said:
The e-mail I have set up on my kaiser is the same as my outlook on my pc, so when I sync I get duplicate e-mails and have to disable the option to sync mail with pc, but this still leaves the outlook account in messages.
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Why do you have duplicate emails? With an exchange server, your emails on device and in your pc's outlook will replicate - and without exchange they sync anyway?

What's the settings for MMS1? I don't have that in my registry.

dis39tif said:
What's the settings for MMS1? I don't have that in my registry.
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Each of these folders represent an account within messages. So "Activesync" is "outlook" (used and updated when syncing with a pc version of outlook or using an exchange server), IMAP4 Corresponds to my (@btinternet.com/using imap), SMS is for SMS (go figure/lol), MMS1 (this can also just be MMS on some device/dependant on version of Arcsoft) POP is for my (@3mail) account and Hotmail is for hotmail (in juction with using Windows live).
So by deleting the "activesync" folder you are in effect deleting the information to display the account.
Also I deleted the imap4 folder (after making a backup of course of the reg entry) And soft-reset the device. It removed my @btinternet account with e-mails. But after i imported the .reg backup I made and soft-reset the device again the account returned with all e-mails intact and fully readable.
**Possibility for a freeware app to hide accounts that are private??? using a password to auto add/remore .reg to access accounts or maybe not. **
Thanks trying to bring something to those who have helped me... Thanks
diigibio (diigimatrix)

unwired4 said:
Why do you have duplicate emails? With an exchange server, your emails on device and in your pc's outlook will replicate - and without exchange they sync anyway?
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Hi unwired, The reason I get duplicates is because I don't actually use an exchange server. I have my @btinternet.com account set up on both my home Supreme Pc, My laptop and my Kaiser. But when I used to cradle my kaiser with my pc (mainly for appointments) to update it used to download my e-mails from outlook on my pc to my kaiser. So in the outlook account on my kaiser would be all the e-mails from my pc version of outlook, then in my @btinternet.com account were the same e-mails that I collected whilst I was mobile.
So I needed access to my @btinternet account whilst mobile but in the outlook folder that wqould not let me sync so then i had to set up the other.
So i stopped it syncing with outlook messages on the pc and then decided to try and get rid of the outlook account, which is what i then proceeded to do!
Ok i am going to stop now before i start going round in circles..
But thanks for the question..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

thanks diigibio!
I was looking for some time to solve this. now my kaiser is even more what I want it to be.
kudos to You mate!
br
bro

bronx said:
thanks diigibio!
I was looking for some time to solve this. now my kaiser is even more what I want it to be.
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Your welcome mate. To be honest I think it was your comment about it I came accross the other day on the forum, which is one of the reasons I decided to post it. I'll try and help more if I can. I've just setup talking dial tones. so when I dial a number it says the number rather than beep. Thanks to grumps for the tones!! I think he's compiling an app to do this easier. But i couldn't wait and so set it up via the registry...
Oh www.htcclassaction.org reports we could have proper display drivers by the end of march!! So fingers crossed our Kaiser will fullfil their legacy!!

diigibio said:
Hi unwired, The reason I get duplicates is because I don't actually use an exchange server. I have my @btinternet.com account set up on both my home Supreme Pc, My laptop and my Kaiser. But when I used to cradle my kaiser with my pc (mainly for appointments) to update it used to download my e-mails from outlook on my pc to my kaiser. So in the outlook account on my kaiser would be all the e-mails from my pc version of outlook, then in my @btinternet.com account were the same e-mails that I collected whilst I was mobile.
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Cool. Thanks for explaining.

Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.

dis39tif said:
Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.
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Yeah, sounds like it. If you post that .cab here. I'll take a look for you mate and see what I can come up with over the next week. Failing that I can take my .reg setting for the mms and possibly create a link to the default messaging app.
However my best mate has an o2 xda orbit and I installed WM6 on it but there is no 6.1 yet and he wanted threaded sms. So i installed Shogun's Palm sms. Now when he opens that app he does not have mms, however when I linked to the default messaging app that still contained his mms account and all the mms I sent him were waiting there for him.
So try this out and if you need my help just ask. You can PM me for my e-mail address if you want to send the .cab direct or ask for any other help. I am at work tomorrow(or should I say today) and am on a sleep over so i will check my pm but it'll be from my Kaiser.
Hope I could help..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

dis39tif said:
Thanks Diigibio.
I don't have that registry file (obviously). I have the Shogun's Palm SMS threading program installed and lost my MMS'. The fix to install the Arcsoft composer and run an enablemms.cab never worked for me. I wonder if this is what it's trying to fix.
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I have used a .cab analyser on the enablemms.cab and it contains no registry entries at all (none will be added or removed(except for unistall info and platform.reg which I believe is more to do with os at a guess))
and contains these files:
CeSetup.dll in the \Program Files\Tools Folder
checkfile.exe in the windows folder
Platformxxx.reg in the windows folder
CM_Entries.xml in the windows folder
And
Customize.lst in the \Program Files\Tools folder
Let me know how you get on..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

hi there again...
the trick works great, but I think, that I have a small problem in here.
after applying Your trick on my stock t-mob uk vario III everything went fine except loosing sound for new sms. even if I have ticked in my options to play sound and show message I can't hear or see any notification. only sign of new message is number of new messages in the middle of htc home plugin.
now.. I made a backup of that key before deletion, but...
I've deleted it.. '(-_-)
any chance for You to post that .reg file for me mate?? or if You have some other solution, then I would be more than happy to avoid hard reset.
br
bro

bronx said:
hi there again...
the trick works great, but I think, that I have a small problem in here.
after applying Your trick on my stock t-mob uk vario III everything went fine except loosing sound for new sms. even if I have ticked in my options to play sound and show message I can't hear or see any notification. only sign of new message is number of new messages in the middle of htc home plugin.
now.. I made a backup of that key before deletion, but...
I've deleted it.. '(-_-)
any chance for You to post that .reg file for me mate?? or if You have some other solution, then I would be more than happy to avoid hard reset.
br
bro
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No worries mate, I still have sound on my sms notifications although I did have to deselect play sound in sound and notifications and reset then re-select the play sound option. And it worked for me but I have a stock htc tytn II. I am at work on my kaiser at the moment and the browser won't let me add an attachment, so when I get my laptop out at 6 i'll post the .reg entry. Fancy deleting it !! lol.. Check back around 6.30. It'll def be on tonight pal..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

cheers
I know I sound like a dumbo saying that it's deleted.. but ... oh well
thank You again
br
bro

.reg files
Sneeked on!
Here you go mate...

thanks
I tried soft resets just as You did - no luck for me unfortunatelly.
never mind, fix was sweet anyway. I'll try to play with it bit mo.
br
bro

Thanks for the update diigibio. I appreciate any help. How did you link your friend's phone to the default MMS messaging app? Or would it help if I tried to reapply registry settings?

dis39tif said:
Thanks for the update diigibio. I appreciate any help. How did you link your friend's phone to the default MMS messaging app? Or would it help if I tried to reapply registry settings?
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The default messaging application remains untouched, especially when installing third party replacements such as SMS threading (IMSMS, Palm, Textr and so on). The default link goes to \Windows\tmail.exe.
The quickest way to do this is by using Resco File Manager. click on the tmail.exe and hold until (right-click) menu appears and click "send to" then choose "Start Menu as Shortcut".
Once this is done you can access it via the start menu or use the button app to map it to a button or use with a today screen plugin (spb etc) As when you install the third party app it either replaces the original shortcut with its own or alters the original link to point to the third party app.
Hope this is of some help...
diigibio (diigimatrix)

Thanks! worked great for me on WM 6.1 I didn't see the active sync option before the restart either.

How do I select my own file path for my Contacts?

My wife has the Iphone and I have the Tilt. We both use the same computer. So the problem I am having is that some of her contacts keep ending up on my phone and sometimes mine get's on hers or some of hers get's erased. How can I tell my phone where to save and sync my contacts? Hers is right in outlook, but I don't know where activesync is storing my contacts on my computer. When I open outlook on my computer and go to contacts, all my wifes contacts are there and none of mine are.

I had the same problems trying to sync two different devices on the same computer. Anybody have a solution?

I had the same issue with my wife, what I did was get her set up with microsoft address book and when her phone syncs set it up to only sync those contacts, I use outlook. Once I did that I haven't had any problems. Hope that helps

bilbobrian said:
I had the same issue with my wife, what I did was get her set up with microsoft address book and when her phone syncs set it up to only sync those contacts, I use outlook. Once I did that I haven't had any problems. Hope that helps
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Where can I get that program?

DJ Hellfire said:
Where can I get that program?
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It is included in Windows XP in accessories.

bilbobrian said:
It is included in Windows XP in accessories.
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Thanks! I'll check it out!

DJ Hellfire said:
Thanks! I'll check it out!
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there are a lot of cool people here that will help out if asked, just pass it on

I want my contacts to be first name then last name. Possible?

As the title states, I cant figure out how to stop having my contact list put the last name first. I want it organized by first name.
Is this possible?

It is possible, and can be done by using the 'file as' drop down when editing contacts in Outlook on your PC, then re-syncing with your diamond.
Don't know of a way to do it stand alone though.

studz said:
It is possible, and can be done by using the 'file as' drop down when editing contacts in Outlook on your PC, then re-syncing with your diamond.
Don't know of a way to do it stand alone though.
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Im using entourage and its already set that way (first name, last name). Dont know why its not saving it that way on the phone.

HyperM3 said:
"I'm using entourage"
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That's probably why I would think; I use Outlook, and it works fine... can't speak for your app, sorry.

There's actually a tiny freeware program that does just that, bulk on all your contacts: Contact Utilities v1.0b.
I've used it exactly for this and it worked perfectly

I just save them without a space between first and second names, that guarantees it will be the same on any phone ( e.g. if you go skiing and temporary transfer sim card to another phone or change phone to completely different model)

When you people talk about Outlook, do you mean the old crapy Outlook or brand new kick a*s Windows Live Mail?

NoWorthWhile said:
When you people talk about Outlook, do you mean the old crapy Outlook or brand new kick a*s Windows Live Mail?
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they are two different lines of product, Outlook is not old, the latest version is 2007 .. I suppose this one

Actually, I'm willing to buy a Htc Touch diamond, but I've always hated outlook, and I'm kind of more fund on WL Mail... I've been using it quite a lot (About 20 mails a day) and I'm not willing to change my habits... So I wanted to know if
1) The mail tab on TouchFlo shows WL acounts
2) Will contacts on WL Mail be synchronised with the TD?
Thanks for replies.

try contact changer at www.shubaroo.com

[Q] Moving contacts to Nokia????

Hey guys, I have nokia E72 and i want to move my contacts from TyTN II to my Nokia E72. I don't have any idea how to do it. Please help me out

Usually I use email client (Outlook express,Microsoft outlook etc) to do it.
Firstly I synchronize contact detail from Tytn to Outlook Express or Microsoft outlook and then re-synchronize contact to E72 using Nokia PC Suite from Outlook express or microsoft outlook. CMIIW.
I hope you can understand what I mean due to my bad english grammar....

I got it thanks a lot

iTTi said:
I got it thanks a lot
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You're welcome....!
Nice to help you....

Sry for my question.
I dont have Nokia PCSuite installed and I wouldnt install it. Can I without installing PCSuite syncronizes my Nokia Contacs with my TyTN II?

In case no one knows of a freeware app to mass send all contacts (via bluetooth or something that bypasses the need for Nokia software), you could always just turn on bluetooth on phones, probably best to pair them. Then open up your contacts on the TyTn II, and send each contact individually by bluetooth (it may be listed as "beam", think it depends on ROM version(?)) to your nokia. Do make sure that extra fields are received and mapped correctly - eg work fax number goes to the correct category, addresses, birthdays, e-mails etc., BEFORE you stop taking your TyTn II around with you.

TheFstX said:
Sry for my question.
I dont have Nokia PCSuite installed and I wouldnt install it. Can I without installing PCSuite syncronizes my Nokia Contacs with my TyTN II?
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Previously i use vCard manager to backup all contact from Nokia and it will result single file (vCard) ready to backup/copying to another symbian phone. But unfortunately that i didn't know winmo application to read vCard file perfectly in HTC.
I think it will be difficult without pc suite to backup/copying contact to another phone OS.
CMIIW