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Scroll wheel adjustment

Is there a way for the scroll wheel to "scroll" within rows. For instance, I have SPB Mobile Shell and Phone Alarm installed. Both apps have multiple icons in a row. I can scroll to a row, but I can't scroll along a row.
Is there a fix for this?
Thanks in advance.

i'll take the silence as a no

diar said:
i'll take the silence as a no
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You might be right but it's generally considered reasonable to give it at least one if not a couple of days before bumping a thread.
So ironically, here's a free one on me!
Mike

i noticed that when i click programs or settings and use the scroll wheel it scrolls through every item in those areas. it just won't do it on the today screen.
i'll be a guinea pig. does anyone know the registry keys that govern the scroll wheel?

I am also interested in figuring this Horizontal Today Screen Wheel Scrolling...

It's a Scroll WHEEL, not a Track Ball!
unksr00t said:
I am also interested in figuring this Horizontal Today Screen Wheel Scrolling...
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Isn't this why we have a D-Pad?
How can you expect a 1-dimensional control to work in 2 dimensions?

In Schap's ROM, the scroll wheel does scroll across the HTC Home.

2-dimensions
Geez chill cushcalc. I don't think he wants the wheel to be able to scroll up/down and left/right at will. Instead I think he wants it to scroll through each item in each today plug-in, instead of just scrolling from one today plug-in to the next. I.E.- scrolling down goes from the 1st item in htc home for example, to the second, to the third, etc... and then from the last htc home item to the first item in the next today plug-in. I know, I know, there are tons of retards posting tons of uber-retarded questions on this forum, but diar is posing a valid question.

sWuRv said:
Geez chill cushcalc. I don't think he wants the wheel to be able to scroll up/down and left/right at will. Instead I think he wants it to scroll through each item in each today plug-in, instead of just scrolling from one today plug-in to the next. I.E.- scrolling down goes from the 1st item in htc home for example, to the second, to the third, etc... and then from the last htc home item to the first item in the next today plug-in. I know, I know, there are tons of retards posting tons of uber-retarded questions on this forum, but diar is posing a valid question.[/QUOTE
Mines does that. I thought that was normal. No? Never mind. On the Ver4 beta, it doesn't .. Sorry bout that
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diar said:
Is there a way for the scroll wheel to "scroll" within rows. For instance, I have SPB Mobile Shell and Phone Alarm installed. Both apps have multiple icons in a row. I can scroll to a row, but I can't scroll along a row.
Is there a fix for this?
Thanks in advance.
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Here's a free bump. Would love to have this feature as well, cuz I'd really to have one-handed use on the PDA. Using the D-pad requires thumb gymnastics which may result in dropping the phone
Even better, if there'd be a way to switch the scroll mode from line-by-line to page-by-page in certain cases, i.e. while browsing a document, or a web page.

Any way to REALLY scroll with thumbwheel ?

Hi !
I'm looking for a way to scroll with the thumbwheel (right now it's just as pressing up/down which does different things depending on the app). I know it could be done, since we have the finger scrolling which works as a REAL scroll, so if moving the thumb down would act the same as finger scrolling for 1cm, for example, than it would be a real scroll.
BTW: as i'm typing this, i'm starting to program an app to do it, so if i don't find a solution, i'l make one myself... muahahaha(evil laugh)... of course i'll share it... free.
Please tell me if you know a solution, so i don't waste my nights programming (again).
Thanks,
RPG

i haven't been able to find a solution and I looked high to low. I think the wheel should be more like a page down than arrow down.

I have never understood why you can't get it to go vertically. It does it on the program and settings but not on the today screen.
I think you are onto something here.

I saw one of the button mapping programs that allowed you to assign screen actions to buttons, but I am not sure how well it would work. If it did, I would imagine it could be pretty quirky and not the most efficient way to do in things, since you be basically reinterpreting another event. Sounds like it might be useful, but I would suggest maybe providing the ability to to toggle between the normal behavior and the true scrolling by double clicking the jog wheel button.

[REF]Capacitive touchpad apps

Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.

Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.

Koush said:
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
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Maybe you have already seen it .. but check out the 'NavDbgTool.exe' here...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Testing_Tool

Riel said:
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
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Good idea ! I was thinking about starting such topic..
What about a unlocker ? If you slide your finger from Home key to the Answer key and at the same time you slide your other finger from the Back key to the Don't Answer key ? Could be nice.. just an idea!

What I have seen, that is quite hard, since above and below the nav-pad is no touch-pad. It sees it as 'nav-pad action' then.
I thought of navigating in another way.
What multitouch-applications do there exist, and are any of them usable for the limited space we have besides the nav-wheel?
It DOES give 4 extra 'hardware' keys. Even key-combinations can be made
Maybe some genious will find a slick way of text-inputting via the 2 pads !

Just give it a small kick upwards

Dont let this topic die?

I was just looking at this for a bit, think I get some clues about how to get the data. I have a time-problem, though Will probably be a while before I pick it up again.
However, I think I saw Schaps mention he is using it in his new touchxperience UI, that'd mean he knows how to do it. Why not just ask him?

I can see one use already. Capacitive sensors are more responsive than resistive screens, so it would be cool to use this in place of touching the screen to scroll through touchflo3d tabs.
Surur

Does any one know if this is implemented in the touch pro? and if so, in what way? Maybe we will inherit whatever the pro has to offer in this regard.

YESSSS!
This is awsome!
Did you guyzz see the vid vid?
Unlocking the Diamond with no Hard button touch at alll?.
Cheers fellasss

Nice, looking forward to a nice task manager and launcher mouse pad thing in the future!

A mouse like on the Samsung Omnia would be a good idea.
Surur

Not really multitouch
OK, I've download the NavDBG tool and played with it... strictly speaking this isn't multitouch, or not multitouch in the way that the apple looks at it. It's single touch but split into 3 areas. Basically imagine the button area at the bottom of the diamond is split into 3 columns.
You have 3 single touch areas:
1) On the left with the home and dial buttons
2) In the middle tracking outside the circle or also detecting a touch (not a button press) inside the circle. If you finger touches both outside and inside the circle, outside the circle takes precedence
3) On the right with the back and hangup buttons.
The multitouch impression comes from the fact that all 3 of these single touch areas can be used simultaneously.
This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple, but it does mean that a device fairly limited in terms of buttons could get a lot of good enhancements to useability.
My biggest annoyance with the device is when you are trying to gesture in TF3D or in an app (eg scrolling in opera) and it decides you've tapped mid gesture and follows a link etc, using the louch sensitive lower areas for gestures would eliminate this problem and make for a much better user experience (in my opinion).
Also, for games, the potential to use the touch sensitive lower area for a range of game controls would be great.
So all good stuff, but not strictly speaking multitouch.
edit: Additionally it seems to only see a narrow horizontal band in the middle (wheel) section. Interestingly it seems to register about 1cm on each side of the wheel and inside the button, it seems to infer rotation around the wheel based on the finger movements as it crosses these areas.

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This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple
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Seeing how small the pad area it, this would still work, just with fingers on different sensitive areas. If fact, this sounds like a perfect first implementation - zooming in Opera Mobile (although a bit senseless since the scroll wheel works with one hand while pinching will need two).
Surur

i think the biggest advantage of this revelation will the benefit of some new added buttons. I can think of a few uses for them too.
left/right touch to
move fwd/back through tabs in opera
skip fwd/back tracks in music player
pounding the hell out of when playing daily thompsons decathalon (if anyone remembers that great 80's game)

I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?

aydc said:
I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I would love to see this!
My full on support.

I was thinking of using the touchpanels for a mousepointer control!
I know, when browsing opera, my fingers are too fat to click small links.
Must keep zooming.
I wonder if it was possible to pop up a mouse cursor, and move it with one small touch-panel. The other panel for left and rightclicks.
I have held my diamond with that idea, and I think it is very useful and finger-friendly!

CapacitiveFingerLock
I did make a Proof of Concept of CapacativeFingerLock. This one gives another possibility of locking/unlocking the Touch Diamond or Touch Pro.

Left Handed People Rom

I'm one of the 10% of left handed people in the world and was wondering if anybody had managed to make a rom for kaiser for us lefties if not then whats the best solution as the scroll bar on the right hand right means my hand is over the screen so i cant see while i have to scroll hope someone can shed some light on this

Try looking around here, although I don't remember seeing any left-handed ROMs there. As for the scroll bar, there was a thread about that in the Off-Topic forum a while ago, and although many agreed that it would be nice to do, nobody had the slightest idea how one would do so.
You might want to try a WM6.5 ROM, as they have excellent finger scrolling (so long as you disable Touchflo scrolling in Kaisertweak).
Dave

we should make a seperate lefties forum lol
I agree, for me, WM6.5 overall works great. Contact, home screen, app launcher scrolling were all seamless. and the old control panel type stuff is gone so you get to use the honeycomb to browse through the settings options.
for me it's way better than trying to use a tiny scroll bar no matter what side it's on.

Map Cycle

Uhm...i dont have the arrows at the bottom of my map to easily cycle through the multiple search results. Was it taken out? Do i need to enable it (can see options/layers/labs)?

I am missing this as well. As a slightly less useful alternative, you can swipe left or right on the "detail" screen after clicking into one of search results to rotate through the results.

I was just looking for this too. Did they take it out? It's not there anymore when you do a search. How else are you supposed to scroll thru results? Seems like a very stupid thing to remove.

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I am missing this as well. As a slightly less useful alternative, you can swipe left or right on the "detail" screen after clicking into one of search results to rotate through the results.
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Cool. Thanks for the tip. Sucks that they took our the arrows...would rather have had them remove the zoom buttons!