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no gps on wm6 google maps mobile

according to gmm the gps isn't set on the gps in the settings area of the wm. i recall seeing this option on wm5 but isn't present on wm6. it's probably a simple registry lookup if anyone can find a work around let me know.
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rhuie said:
according to gmm the gps isn't set on the gps in the settings area of the wm. i recall seeing this option on wm5 but isn't present on wm6. it's probably a simple registry lookup if anyone can find a work around let me know.
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GPS didn't work for me in Google Maps even though it was set up and working correctly with TomTom Navigator. Though I am using WM5. If it is a reg hack to make those options show up in settings they might be in the wiki.

i saw it on another sub forum. i think universal. it is somewhere in the registry.

HKLM\Controlpanel\GPS Settings
Add value "Group" (dWord)
Value "2" (show) Delete "redirect" and "hide" completely (if its there)
to rehide enter value "1" (hide)

is that to enable GPS on WM6? can i use it on my 8125?

CLS_500 said:
is that to enable GPS on WM6? can i use it on my 8125?
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it puts the gps icon in the connection settings

Dammit! finally a question on this forum I actually had the answer to and several beat me to it! ;-)
Hopefully my musings will help someone or two setting this up anyway...
GMM seems to rely on the PPC "telling" it that it has a GPS, and where it is, instead of GMM "looking" for it, like most GPS software does.
The reg hack posted above will restore the GPS icon in Settings > Connections. Then you tell the utility what port your GPS is really on, and then setup what virtual port you want software to think it's on. (You can select "COM0-COM9" or "GD0-GD9- I assume the "GD" stands for GPS Device" and not what the hell is a G** D*** GD port?") Once you do this, Google Maps finds the GPS no problem.
I tried it GMM after "fixing" the GPS problem yesterday, and almost had my 8-year old son convinced the sat picture he was viewing was "live" until he noticed there was no snow in the on-screen "live camera" view of the Denver suburbs! ;-)
As a bonus, the GPS manager in WM allows you to use multiple GPS programs at once- (usually when a program connects to a COM port it gets exclusive access, but this virtual port is available to all programs.) It was a hoot switching between Mapopolis, GMM and MS Virtual Earth and comparing. (V Earth is slower downloading data over GPRS/EDGE compared to GMM, but I like having the street names superimposed over the aerial image.)
Weird heads-up in case you run into this- my usual GPS Nav software (Mapopolis) wouldn't see the GPS on the "fake" COM port unless I used one of the "GDx" ones. Any other "COMx" (other than the real one) wouldn't work. I suspect this is because Mapopolis probably checks the hardware directly for COMx ports rather than going through the OS, but is forced to go through WM for the virtual GDx ports that don't really exist in hardware, so sticking to a GDx port is probably best (it will also avoid accidentally selecting a virtual COM that conflicts with a real COM port like your IR port, etc.) I suspect the other major PPC Nav programs probably do the same as Mapopolis and go to the hardware directly since this virtual GPS port stuff is fairly new...
Hope I helped someone! ;-)

elecconnec said:
Dammit! finally a question on this forum I actually had the answer to and several beat me to it! ;-)
Hopefully my musings will help someone or two setting this up anyway...
GMM seems to rely on the PPC "telling" it that it has a GPS, and where it is, instead of GMM "looking" for it, like most GPS software does.
The reg hack posted above will restore the GPS icon in Settings > Connections. Then you tell the utility what port your GPS is really on, and then setup what virtual port you want software to think it's on. (You can select "COM0-COM9" or "GD0-GD9- I assume the "GD" stands for GPS Device" and not what the hell is a G** D*** GD port?") Once you do this, Google Maps finds the GPS no problem.
I tried it GMM after "fixing" the GPS problem yesterday, and almost had my 8-year old son convinced the sat picture he was viewing was "live" until he noticed there was no snow in the on-screen "live camera" view of the Denver suburbs! ;-)
As a bonus, the GPS manager in WM allows you to use multiple GPS programs at once- (usually when a program connects to a COM port it gets exclusive access, but this virtual port is available to all programs.) It was a hoot switching between Mapopolis, GMM and MS Virtual Earth and comparing. (V Earth is slower downloading data over GPRS/EDGE compared to GMM, but I like having the street names superimposed over the aerial image.)
Weird heads-up in case you run into this- my usual GPS Nav software (Mapopolis) wouldn't see the GPS on the "fake" COM port unless I used one of the "GDx" ones. Any other "COMx" (other than the real one) wouldn't work. I suspect this is because Mapopolis probably checks the hardware directly for COMx ports rather than going through the OS, but is forced to go through WM for the virtual GDx ports that don't really exist in hardware, so sticking to a GDx port is probably best (it will also avoid accidentally selecting a virtual COM that conflicts with a real COM port like your IR port, etc.) I suspect the other major PPC Nav programs probably do the same as Mapopolis and go to the hardware directly since this virtual GPS port stuff is fairly new...
Hope I helped someone! ;-)
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Thanks for this. I thought I did do this but only set up one of the tabs it's working perfectly now.

How do you enable internal GPS?

Google maps says there should be a "Settings -> System -> GPS"
but I only see External GPS.
Is my GPS not enabled?

This has been discussed a ton already, use any other GPS application 1st, like TomTom or search for GPS Viewer, a simple GPS app. Configure the app for GPS at Com 4, 4800baud. Also be sure and enable the Quick GPS app that came with the TyTN and download the current data. Once you get a fix from any other application, Google Maps will work normally.

My apologies. First day with the Kaiser and just trying to get a handle on it. I did search but didn't seem to get that answer, a lot of other information.

if you purchase software like tomtom navigator 6 you dont even need to use a "jumpstart" app. It will just work.

Lavachild said:
if you purchase software like tomtom navigator 6 you dont even need to use a "jumpstart" app. It will just work.
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yeah im not sure what the purpose of the quickgps program is. I use tomtom by itself and it always locks on in just a few seconds.

Quick GPS performs a function callled Assisted GPS (A-GPS) and it is a way to save time to acquire a fix by predownloading satellite data into the phone so that the GPS doesn't have to download the same data from the sats while initializing. A "cold" gps startup can take several minutes, A-GPS brings it down to a few seconds.
This is seperate from the Google problem where it appears that Google doesn't wait long enough to get the initial fix and fails. After the Phone gets a fix using another program (not Quick GPS), then Google maps works normally. Mapping progs like TomTom and iGuidance just work right from install providing you set the com to 4 and Baud between 4800 and 38400.

Setting up a bluetooth profile

Guys
I am having real problems getting my GPS to talk to my XDA11i . the two devices appear to talk to each other ( flash furiously) but tom tom doesnt recognise it.
Bluetooth manager confirms there is an active connection.
I believe that the BT profile is not set up correctly.
I can go to BT settings and make a new profile , selecting serial transfer etc and then give the profile a name , BUT , each time I select the profile whilst the access permissions are still as set , when I open the services tab no services are selected ! despite selecting it when the profile was set up ?
Any thoughts here ?
Astro1

Go to BT parameter -> services -> serial port -> options
Write down IN/OUT port number, report the OUT port number to you GPS software.
If pb still exists, try to use "Franson GpsGate" or NMEA as connection within gps software.

Tried that !
Hi NewbiePDA
Been there and tried that , the outgoing port is port 6 and in tom tom 's configuration choices the choice of port 6 is the only oje that seems to get any where ( activity from the LED on the GPS unit ) all other port choices given turn off the GPS.
Ive got a copy of franson gpsgate but got nowhere with it ,
It has to be a simple configuration problem !
I have set up a spp profile in BT settings ( and called it tom tom ) I have ticked the serial connection and then Enable service box then closed down ( hit ok). Upon re opening the profile serial port choice is no longer chosen ? any ideas ?
Best Regards
Astro1

Hi Astro1,
I think that creating spp profile is unnecessary, my procedure is as below:
1) Pair you devices
BT -> BT manager -> tools -> pair device -> add
browse you BT devices then you should see you gps icon appear, click on it, then type you password to pair, usually is 0000
2) back to BT manager, choose "new", choose discover a BT device, again, you should see you gps device, click on it, normally you get spp service, just follow the step by clicking "next"...
If you can't see any services available then turn off you BT gps device, turn off you Xda2i BT, soft reset, then turn on gps, back to step 2)
3) If pb remains, probably it's due to tomtom's bt stack, try rename BtCoreIf.dll BtSdkCE30.dll (in \windows folder) to others name, or delete them.
Hope that helps.

re name or delete
Hi Newbe
I am trying to delete or rename the two files you note , I have seen this on other sites as well .
Like you XDA11i says that the files are in use and read only / archive /hidden or in use etc.
It will not let me touch them !
Any ideas of a file manager or software that will let me work on them ??
Astro1

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Hi Newbe
I am trying to delete or rename the two files you note , I have seen this on other sites as well .
Like you XDA11i says that the files are in use and read only / archive /hidden or in use etc.
It will not let me touch them !
Any ideas of a file manager or software that will let me work on them ??
Astro1
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download and install gpsdash2 and in the connection settings click on auto config, it will find you gps receaver ad set itself up, this will also give you the correct bt settings, it will show you if everything is working okay. and some cool features.
i had to do this with my jentro bt unit

Hi Skeevee
Ive tried that one too .
GPS gate checks trhe ports and the blue led on the Bluetooth GPS unit flashes furiously ( as if they are talking ) , but GPS gate reports unable to find GPS ???
This is loosing me , it seems to me that the two devices are talking but that there is a comms / set up problem .
TT6 tries to talk to the GPS as well but gets no where ?
Astro1

Internal GPS in Google MAPS

Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's

try to jumpstart your GPS with GPSview then start googlemaps. this might work.

Sorry but...
what is GPSview? It's an external application?

madness974 said:
Hi all,
I'm trying to use google maps with the internal GPS but the program say me that not founds any gps. How I must set the device?
Thank's
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works fine for me when setting the port to 4 and and baudrate to 4800 in Google maps

In START>Setting>EXTERNAL GPS
I have this setting:
programs (TAB) - DATA PORT GPS: COM4
hardware (TAB) - hardware GPS port: none
- baud 4800
Access (TAB) - Automatic GPS control (DEFAULT)
I set in google map COM4 and baud 4800, but don't work
Sorry, but I've the TYTN II fron 2 days

Use any GPS Application like TomTom to start the GPS and then switch to google maps without closing TomTom. This should work.
Goole Maps doesn't wait always long enough for a gps signal.
Special2k3

Ok, thank to all for reply, now I'll try...

Keep retrying till the gps gets the fix. If you get the fix with another application and then try with google maps, it will be very fast.

SOLVED
Tnx all
All solved!
All default and google maps work perfectly, without open other GPS application!!!

How, exactly, did you solve it?

that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!

I noticed that gps doesn't work when you're sitting at home. I've never had it failed on me when I was in the car, specially when the car was moving.
I used google map's and the gps feature to take me through an hour of traffic coming home from work.

GPS
I start up my GPS with GPS Photo to initialize(takes time to load) then open Google Map.
Hope this helps

Will givethe gps foto thing a go - good thinking!

Its amazing after 2 days wifi gps sniffing how many wireless AP there are
http://www.blackfire.be/maps/
GPS Photo works well also

little_rock said:
that's bloody annoying he didnt share the love - i have the same problem!
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Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.

you rock dude

SOLVED
Sorry to all for my tardive reply
I've solved the problem simply without change nothing.
All default, and launcing google maps the gps start automatically (if not, initialize it with any gps software, like tomtom, gps photo, etc).
BUT - IMPORTANT
Google maps function well in open spaces, I tried it in closed, so, don't worked.
In open space, all ok, it's work fine.
N.B. I've an italian version of O.S. :
CE 5.2.1620 (build 18125.0.4.2)
Rom 1.56.408.5
Data Rom 08/28/07
Vers. Radio 1.27.12.11
Vers. prot. 22.45.88.07H
I feel it can help someone.
Thank's to all for your help and interesting

wizzzard said:
Here is what worked for me.
Goto Settings>System>External GPS, use the Kaiser defaults of GPS program port=COM4, Hardware=None, Baud rate=4800, Enable "Manage GPS automatically."
Run quickgps and download the current ephermis ?spelling data. This speeds up the time to first satellite lock.
Go outside, preferably open location with clear view of the sky.
Run gpsPhoto from the Camera app.
Allow a few minutes to obtain first satellite lock.
Once you have a satellite lock you can close the Camera app and open Google Maps and change Menu>Options>Track Location Settings to "Set by Windows". Press the OK left softkey.
Press the Right Menu softkey and select Track Location.
Bingo you should have a Satellite Lock and Google Maps should center on your location.
I only had to do this procedure once as Google Maps now aquires a lock in seconds. The Kaiser gps works better indoors than my 2 previous Blutooth GPS units, I can see which room of my house I am in. As with all GPS devices it works better in an open environment free from reflections from buildings and free from Tree cover. I am really impressed with the Kaiser GPS.
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You said something very interesting here...you said you can see which room you're in. How is that? more of a curiosity thing than a useful thing but I guess it could be handy in large buildings (assuming you can get a fix).

Also, FYI, the new Google Maps is much better at waiting for the GPS to fire up. The timeout value is much more forgiving. I've noticed in the new Gmaps, It just works now.

Another GPS Help Me Topic

This is just my last resort I suppose. I recently flashed to NATF's v4.4 and 1.11.25.01 radio plus installed Google Maps on my att Fuze.
But when I go to locate myself Google Maps tells me "Your current location is temporarily unavailable". Sweet.
So what have I done thus far?
I've looked around and I've done the Advance config tweaks.
I've updated my Quick GPS.
I've ran the HTC GPS Tool (I honestly have no clue what I am looking at here lol but I do get a Mode 2: Not Fix thingy) for about 2 hours hoping for *something* to pop up.
Finally, I've done the GPS Test version 1.04 but it maintains itself at "Looking for GPS unit.
I've soft reset, hard reset and cried.
Is there anything else I'm missing? Any help would be mucho appreciated, thanks!

Hi Coola,
I am using the standard HTC-ROM.
0) First of all, I am not sure whether your GPS unit is working in your phone.
But assuming that the hardware is still OK do the following:
1) Go to settings > System > external GPS.
Check if all options are still normal.
Program port is COM4.
Hardware port : none.
Baudrate : 4800.
Access: Check automated GPS control.
NOTE that an external connected GPS (e.g. Bluetooth device) unit will have a baudrate of 4800. The internal which resides at Com4 has a standard baudrate of 57600. These settings need to be checked to make sure they are still this way and it will also give Windows automated control of the GPS system.
2) You need to install Advanced Config 3.3.
http://www.touchxperience.com/fr/out…ol-32-cab.html
With Advanced config 3.3 under GPS:
1. disable A-GPS
2. disable GPS logging
3. logfile name must be empty
4. old logfile name must be empty
5. maximum size of logfile must be 0
6 delete the files : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
After these settings the tool will soft-reset your mobile.
3) Then edit registry with TotalCommander
http://ghisler.fileburst.com/ce/tcmdpocketarm.cab
Don't make any errors here, check your steps carefully.
These values seem to work fine and give you a much quicker fix.
Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\
- Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 512 (by default not present, you have to create it, make a Dword value)
After these settings are in place, restart / soft reset your device.
4) Run the program QuickGPSfix and download the new data.
This step needs to be repeated anytime it is outdated.
5) Download and install the HTC GPS Tool.
http://rapidshare.com/files/84815853...C_GPS_TOOL.cab
Upon starting it should show COM4 and a Baudrate of 57600.
Go outside the house, preferably with good wheather.
Hit the "Open"
Hit the "Nav. Int."
Leave all as is, no need to change the options.
You should now start to see the GPS data flow over your screen in the grey area. Wait patiently, the first fix can take up to 10 minutes (afterwards it wil go faster). If it fails it sometimes seems to help to move around a little bit and to reboot your device if it takes way to long.
See if you have any red bars below the satellite numbers (signal strength per satellite) When you get a fix, the bars and satellites to which it is connected will show up green. If there are no red bars here, no data flow etc then there is something wrong with the ROM / radio combination and your phone.
Close this program if you have a fix.
6) Start-up Google maps. Wait for it to download the basic map information, so you don't have any interference from the "now downloading data" message. Then start the GPS use. Fix should now go fast. Once it has a fix you can start moving towards your destiny.
From now on use HTC GPS tool to get a fix.
Close this program, start the program with which you want to use GPS.
Good luck, Jouke.

Coola said:
This is just my last resort I suppose. I recently flashed to NATF's v4.4 and 1.11.25.01 radio plus installed Google Maps on my att Fuze.
But when I go to locate myself Google Maps tells me "Your current location is temporarily unavailable". Sweet.
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the location Google Maps is trying to get is from the "cell towers", make sure your selecting com4 or MS controled Gps. In other words , google trys to locate with towers first. Then if you select to use GPS, it will try using your Gps setting under options. If you already know all this, then disregard my post, if not, then I hope it helps!

Ah I see what I did wrong. Thank you guys for the clairification!
I had previously made all of these tweaks and I did see some green bars but it never said fixed, which I assumed it would.
I did the HTC GPS Tool and booted up Google maps and voila! It found me
Thank you thank you thank you!