Hello. I am considering to buy an HTC p4350. So I was wondering if Herald can play full screen unconverted (as it was downloaded) divx movies?
TCPMP player shoould be able to play it. The performance depends on resolution and bitrate. OMAP CPUs (like herald has) have severe problems with any movies in higher resolution than native 320*240, so don§t even think of playing CD movies.
The conversion is with right software (I can reccomend Spb Mobile DVD) a mater of several mouseclicks. It easily turns any DVD, avi or mpeg your PC can read into PPC-friendly 320*240 xvid (or 640*480 if you have vga machine)
you can also use pocketdivx it is freeware and then tcpmp to watch
rolanddes said:
Hello. I am considering to buy an HTC p4350. So I was wondering if Herald can play full screen unconverted (as it was downloaded) divx movies?
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I used to have an Siemens SX1 so I always reencoded my divx movies (700 mb but I do not know the res.) in to small movies which SX1 could easily play. But I am tired of converting them. Since I am going to have a huge (2 or 4 gb) sd card then I thought I could forget about that converting trouble. I guess I was wrong?
On a 2gb card you can only put 1 and 1/2 movie (unless you download crappy quality movies) so converting is something you should do anyway.
Some movies are only 150 MB then
As I said, it is matter of 4 or 5 clicks to convert the movie. It used to be trouble back when the only tool we had was virtualDub, but nowadays there is a bunch of specialized softwarers, so it i really an easy task.
You are talking like it does not take any time to convert. Yes Just a few clicks but what about the waiting for the process to finish?
what are you doing at night????
if you are not programming al the time - just let it convert the night and you ahve the movie on your xda for daywork - hehe
jsut kidding
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You are talking like it does not take any time to convert. Yes Just a few clicks but what about the waiting for the process to finish?
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Thanks a lot. I guess I am going to be around next few years for every problem I will encounter with Herald.
Take Care..
It's not even necessary to convert during the night; depending on the size of the original file with pocketdivx you can convert a 700MB DivX movies within a few minutes (5) into a 320*240 ppcmovie
Hmm. That sounds good then..
What about transfering files to the pda? Do I have to use Activesync or cardreader/bt? Can Herald be connected as a usb mass storage device?
with wm5torage you can acces xda as masstorage - but usb1.1 only.
so with adapter and cardreader it is much faster...
rolanddes said:
Hmm. That sounds good then..
What about transfering files to the pda? Do I have to use Activesync or cardreader/bt? Can Herald be connected as a usb mass storage device?
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You may note that some movies may be able to run absolutely fine in their native format by just overclocking it to 247/260Mhz. I do this several times with some 700MB/1.2GB movies, which are of high bitrate
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You may note that some movies may be able to run absolutely fine in their native format by just overclocking it to 247/260Mhz. I do this several times with some 700MB/1.2GB movies, which are of high bitrate
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That was absolutely what I needed to hear since I started the thread. Is overclokcing one-click-easy or a complicated prosedure?
use batterystatus - and it is done in 1 sec....
rolanddes said:
That was absolutely what I needed to hear since I started the thread. Is overclokcing one-click-easy or a complicated prosedure?
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streaming DivX
I was wandering if there is any way someone might know how to play streaming DivX and/or macromedia files. Here is a link to a page that I am unable to play (have flash bundle and TCPMP Player installed).
http://webteleradio.com/movierec
Thanks for any info u can provide.
I find that a temporary overclock to 286 while watching high resolution video files does the trick, also if you are using tcpmp sometimes the video will not appear until you press fullscreen mode.
sorry if this has been mentioned already
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I find that a temporary overclock to 286 while watching high resolution video files does the trick, also if you are using tcpmp sometimes the video will not appear until you press fullscreen mode.
sorry if this has been mentioned already
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Thanks a lot. I will try all of these whenever I get my hands on my pda.
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On a 2gb card you can only put 1 and 1/2 movie (unless you download crappy quality movies) so converting is something you should do anyway.
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Hmmmm. All 700MB divx movies I've "acquired" only take up about 200 megs after reencoding with dr. divx. And the quality's flawless. In fact, right now I have the first seasons of the simpsons and family guy, as well as harold and kumar go to white castle all on a 2 gig card.
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I was watching Transformers yesterday and today i watched another movie on my tilt. I realized that the movie lags a bit and quality isn't that good. The movies are dvdrips, however when playing you can see a lot of blurry squares at times. Also the sound is horrible. The sound about half a second later after the character actually mouths what is being said. So i can i fix these two problems? I am using TCPMP so any help with the settings on how to solve the issues would be great. Thanks
Join the crowd here & sign the petition
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I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).
Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
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I know people here are saying they are having media problems with the Kaiser and the video hardware could be implemented better, but I must have a different WM device because I don't have half of these problems!
First of all check the file you have converted by watching it on your PC. Some freeware conversion packages are crap and audio lagging and 'blocking' are present in the converted files.
Secondly, make sure you have converted to a reasonable screen resolution and frame rate. Playing anything above a 640x480 res on any PDA causes it to convert 'on the fly' and slows down playback.
I have many films in avi (not DivX!) format on a WLHDD2.5 wireless HDD and can play them very well over WiFi (use Resco Explorer to access network drive).
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Amen, If you re encode movies correctly they play just fine on a tilt. I watch mine all the time even with BT headphones on which stress the cpu and the tilt even more. I change the audio sync to -0.500 for the headphones and -0.250 for regular viewing in coreplayer and the audio and video is perfectly in sync. I tryed the new version of coreplayer and the quality is superb. I quess thats why I have a dvd player also. I really dont need to watch a 4 gig dvd file on my tilt when a few minutes encoding it properly works just fine to throw it on my 6 gig sd card at a puny 250 meg file then. I have no skips, artifacts, or crappy picture. Most people are amazed when they see it playing on my tilts screen. Its a ppc phone. If I want a cinematic experince, I fire up my HD dlp projector and watch it on the 12 foot screen at home.
Me too . I'm watching live free or die hard now. Have seen about 3 movies on my Tilt and s9 headphones and it's great! PM me if you want the link for the movie(s).
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Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
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Wow, must have dug deep to find this old thread!!
lol, that's what i realized to. I saw transformers like a couple months back! Now watching other movies.
Re-encoding and audio syncing covered in this thread
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Hello Kareem I Just Read Your Post And I Have A Question , How Can You Download A Movie To Your Tilt I Have One And Im Having Trouble With That , And Do You Know A Good Website ? I Tried Vongo But They Told Me That The Tilt Does Not Work With Them. Thank You Very Much!!
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Although not addressed to me, you ought to convert a dvd that you already have, or rip if off a website first. In order to convert a dvd movie, you do need conversion software. There are literally numerous recommended software to enable you to do this.
Although this one is not perfect, I use a software called 'super' on my laptop. It is freeware by the way and probably is not as top notch as paid for products. I've also never converted a full movie length video as well, just clips. But I assume it would work.
Once its converted, copy the converted movie to your memory card (if you have one) or your device. (The former is more ideal however)
I think it has also been inferred that you don't have to have conversion software to play a dvd movie on your device, but it will consume alot of your memory if you put a 700MB movie on your device
Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.
Audio said:
Which is why you use software such as Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to shrink the file down to 320 x 240, turning an 800MB file to 200MB.
Also with Ashampoo, you can tell it what size you're aiming for, so if you want the file to shrink to 100MB, it will tell you what sort of quality it will be. but I usually shrink mine down to between 170MB - 300MB, depending on the length of the film.
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Audio..I have never tried Ashampoo, you have me intriged now as I usually two a two step process.
Cheers.
Audio,
How is the video playback when you shrink your movie down to 170MB - 300MB? Do you get lags and a lip sync effect?
Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen . I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread
Audio said:
Video playback is fine. No lag, it's just like watching a standard movie on a tiny screen . I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread
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Thanks for this Audio! I'm about to try it now
One more question, do you use Ashampoo Movie and Shrink or Kingdia Video Converter? On this thread you mentioned Ashampoo, and on the other thread you mentioned Kingdia Video Converter
I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!
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I use Kingdia to convert my files to .avi format, then Ashampoo to shrink them down to 320 x 240. Although thinking about it, i've never actually tried to shrink any other type of file format using ashampoo, perhaps you can shrink .mp4/.wmv/etc straight to .avi using ashampoo, give a try and let me know!
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I should have your read your first post in the other thread properly. Yes, I see why you use both Ashampoo and Kingdia. I'll try it. May take me a while though
I don't normally have my video clips at AVI format. I normally have it a 3GP or MPG. Why AVI?
"I have my audio synced at -200 in TCPMP which solves any delay. Everything can be found in this thread"
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I was wondering if to sync your audio at -200, do you have to go to 'Settings' and then 'buffering' and then change the figure in 'preload for audio' to '-200 kb'
Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears
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Well I use .avi as it's good compression, you could have a film in .wmv that is about 2GB, whereas in .avi it'd only be 700MB.
As for your seconf question, to sync your audio in TCPMP, go to Options > Select Page > Advanced, and you're looking for the "Manual A/V offset +/-" box. And I actually lied, mine's currently set to -270, not - 200. But it depends how much faster your eyes work compared to your ears
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I'll be putting those values in now. Thanks again. But I still would have thought converting a movie to '3GP' would save alot more space, but the quality of the video would probably be poorer. I've noticed this when using the programme 'Super' to convert video clips to 3GP in comparison to converting the very same video clips to MPG. I assume that AVI and MPG file sizes can't be too different...
And I just stumbled upon this in your other thread:
Hi plchan,
to be perfectly honest, I've no idea how other file types play, as all the films I "Source" are mostly .avi's anyway. However TCPMP has codec for loads of different file types, so I don't see a problem with Shrinking different file types straight to 320 x 240.
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I'll try keeping the video type to its original if TCPMP will play it anyway. Plus, the quality of the video always detoriate whenever you encode.
A random question- In your sig, I notice you are endorsing 'mini opera'. I was wondering which out of 'mini opera' or 'mobile opera' is the better for a kaiser
For web browser's, you're probably better off reading this thread. The reason I use Opera Mini, is because I enjoy the zoom ability that you get. I.E when you open a webpage, you see all the webpage, then you can just press on the bit you want to zoom into. But the minute Opera Mobile 9 comes out, I'll be getting it . That Skyfire that's made an appearance also seems to look VERY interesting, probably going to be a good competitor for Opera Mobile 9, as is Microsoft's Deepfish browser. It's all very exciting.... lol.
Hi,
How is the video performance of this HTC Diamond?
Do you still need to re-encode the video file?
Or you can throw in "regular" 700 MB Xvid video file and it will be played flawlessly?
Thanks.
So far I have not faced any problems in playing 700MB full movies I hve never re-encoded the video files I play it on TCPMP player.... hope it helps....
No problem playing 1,4 Gb film that is stored on your LAN harddrive and youre viewing it through WiFi. Hope that proves Diamond is a performance beast (but dont hold it in your palm or youll get yourself a nice burn mark.
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No problem playing 1,4 Gb film that is stored on your LAN harddrive and youre viewing it through WiFi. Hope that proves Diamond is a performance beast (but dont hold it in your palm or youll get yourself a nice burn mark.
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Well I wouldn't go that far. My hx4700 still outperforms the Diamond on hi-res videos. And I am using Raw Framebuffer, not the ATI switch on the hx4700. Using ATI is pretty much absolutely flawless except for the green tint bug.
Some videos fly on the Diamond, some are slow, some are real slow. Encoding methods really make the difference. Much more obvious on the Diamond.
I can't use TCPMP. I tried 3 different ROMs and everytime it crashes at the beginning.
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I can't use TCPMP. I tried 3 different ROMs and everytime it crashes at the beginning.
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Installed both
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab
they both crash upon loading and just say refer to crash.txt. done a search for it, but cannot find.
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Installed both
tcpmp.pocketpc.0.72RC1.cab
tcpmp.smartphone.0.72RC1.cab
they both crash upon loading and just say refer to crash.txt. done a search for it, but cannot find.
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yep, exactly this message With core player i have only a purple image, no movie, tried with several file types. In Media Player i can play .mp4 files, but its really hard to convert everything before playing -.-
Coreplayer watching XVID's seems fine to me
also looks ace on a screen like this
The HTC default player as well as the WMP player in Diamond can both play MP4 videos encoded with H.264, the same codec that is supported by flash player 9 or later. The performance seems good so far. Haven't done any bench mark testing though.
I've been trying to watch a .wmv video file on my TD2, but using WM Player its jerky.
I was wondering if it makes any difference if the file is on the actual device or a storage (SD) card from a performance point of view, i.e. does the phone read from its own memory quicker than the storage card?
Also, which is better out of TCPMP or Core Media Player?
Coreplayer
Can anyone answer my 1st question?
I have 8GB microSD card and when i am using it, it dosent make any difrence.
BUT! make sure you dont use all your memmory on the card, because the movies lags when you have full memmory.
Store All Your Video & Watch them from Storage Card !
It's makes "No" difference if the file is on the actual device or a storage (SD) card !! But, it will be better to convert the WMV to 3GPP format because WM Player have nothing special compare to other Multi-Media Player.
Also, it's real stupid that WMPlayer need to go to menu to stop the Video...
You just can't simply press the End Phone button to stop the Player or swift to other features... the Player is still running in the background!
Look Out for my thread regarding HTC ALBUM for Pocket PC Version 2.51 (Build 18676) in this forum under xda-developers > Topaz > Topaz general > Can Zoom-In & Zoom-Out while playing Video... Video Screen can rotate 360 degree. This Album_Multi-Media Player created by HTC for O2 xdaII Mini Pocket PC.
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But, it will be better to convert the WMV to 3GPP format because WM Player have nothing special compare to other Multi-Media Player.
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A clear, quality picture is required without any jerkiness, so I don't want to "downgrade" to 3GPP.
The .wmv file has a pretty high bitrate and if I reduce the size to 320x240 it plays fine without any jerkiness, but I'd like it to play the same at 640x480 !
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A clear, quality picture is required without any jerkiness, so I don't want to "downgrade" to 3GPP.
The .wmv file has a pretty high bitrate and if I reduce the size to 320x240 it plays fine without any jerkiness, but I'd like it to play the same at 640x480 !
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Welcome to HTC.
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Welcome to HTC.
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i have the same problem too, it "lag" when i play video in full screen, can someone help? any idea how to fix this?
thanks
Have a look in this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517550
It was easy to find...
Anyway, i convert all my video using the VideoEncoder i linked to in the other tread, and play them in the HTCAlbum player(The same player thats used for video you recorded yourself).
The result is almost perfect playback, so I'm very happy with it.
Guys i recently installed coreplayer for xperia. The issue i faced is the video playback is not upto the mark. Its kinda jerky and stops skips videos in between and not smooth.
Has anyone faced this issue with X1 by the way my friend has omnia and the same verison of coreplayer installed on his cell but the video playback is perfect without any skips.
same here...bought x1 5 days ago tried everything and that piece of crap doesnt work same as coreplayer :/ i downloaded the Video...Encoding...GUI_Full.HD stuff which converts video...converted one but the movie on X1 doesnt look like a movie !! it looks like a slideshow but guess what windows media player plays this video Perfectly...written by the big P so im asking wtf ??
the X1 does have some performance issues. this has been discussed several times in the past
the omnia performs a lot better because it has a much faster CPU and because the resolution is 1/4th of that of the xperia so it does not need to work as hard to get smooth playback
core player doesnt support x1 hardware acceleration... thats the main problem there
ok ok but what to do ? im playing aroung with it from the day i bought it and nothing that i tried helped and im a bit frustrated :/ i dont wanna use wmp
Maybe you should get an IPhooon its click and play no hussle and stuff no need to tweak and every thing works (well every thing that comes with it)
install custom rom... gfx booster... convert videos with tool posted here on forums and play them in media panel... no lag at all...
Media panel and converted movies is best solution. And no, you don't need custom rom.
Crystal player is just useless. Yeah, it's sad.
well thats wierd, i play 700mb highres avi files on coreplayer without any problem, maybe its the videos you try to play..? i only face lagging with flv files.
btw i have stock uk r3aa010
I found that some people find 80% speed 'perfect'. I can spot single dropped frame.
Run benchmark a post the results, subjective value is meaningless.
And yes, of course, it does depend on the movie. I play most of the 700mb movies under 90%.
i have not had any problems with coreplayer either....
The movie i am playing is in mkv format and around 500megs in size
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The movie i am playing is in mkv format and around 500megs in size
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1-Use HTC Touch HD video converter
2-Play your converted video with windows player or the media panel
3-Have fun
I have CorePlayer 1.3.2 and i played recently a movie DVD-Rip of 1.45 Gb straight copy and paste from my computer on Xperia. Had no problems, i watched the whole movi without lags, frameskips or sound not synchronized with video...
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I have CorePlayer 1.3.2 and i played recently a movie DVD-Rip of 1.45 Gb straight copy and paste from my computer on Xperia. Had no problems, i watched the whole movi without lags, frameskips or sound not synchronized with video...
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That I simply cannot believe. Post benchmark results, and movie info (resolution, bitrate).
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That I simply cannot believe. Post benchmark results, and movie info (resolution, bitrate).
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Me neither. 80% is what I usually get as speed with 1.3.2. Btw this DVD-Rip may be some small resolution, like 640x272.
I just don't get it, such a good phone with such a lousy movie playing capabilities.
OK... here's the facts.
It's all about perception. Some individuals can watch a movie that displays at 24fps (frames per second, which is the standard) and see a perfectly smooth movie. The brains fills in the gaps between each image and creates the illusion of full motion.
Some lucky individuals can look at a movie playing at 20fps and still see a smooth movie while most of us will perceive it as jerky.
Some unlucky individuals (myself included) find anything less than 30 fps to be jerky.
And finally. Coreplayer + xvid files do not use the acceleration feature of the chipset hence the standard *cough* downloaded tv show will usually be and 624 x 352 with a 912Kbps bit rate (These are average stats)
Will run at about 80%-85% framerate on your X1 giving you a fps of about 20fps.
If you reenconde using the sticky programme GUI you can play the same file at 100% USING ONLY WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER/MEDIAL PANEL!!! (coreplayer will still run it at 85% ish)
Yes .. I just want those people who can watch movies at 80% to realize how lucky they are
Well, there has been so many threads on this subject...
I don't see where the problem is to use Windows Media Player to watch a movie, it's just perfect. Files that cannot be opened by WMP (like flv for example) can be opened with CorePlayer, that's nice.
I don't want to hurt anybody, but maybe people whose mind totally deny this very simple concept should may be go to see a psy We have the right tools, they work perfectly, so why do you want to re-invent the wheel ?
Well most people want to watch AVI movies .. and those are not watchable in WMP and jerky in CorePlayer. If you don't want to watch them, good for you.
Hi,
When i try and watch my divx films through tcpmp or via divx player thye are always very jumpy. Anyone got any ideas?
Welcome to the kaiser, you're bringing up pretty much the first ever complaint about the phone.
There are many things people do to try and solve the problem. Search them out and see if any work for you.
Have tried differant roms, different players and also differant video drivers
Those are the sort of things you put in the original post.
what size are the movie files, format, etc.
600mb avi files
convert the files to the resolution of the kaiser screen 320x240 or something.
RIGHT, geez mine are about 200mb MAX, and it runs pretty good.
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RIGHT, geez mine are about 200mb MAX, and it runs pretty good.
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Same here use AONE FLV to AVI MPEG WMV 3GP MP4 iPod Converter don't be fooled by name will convert anything to anything & get about 200mb max files keeping audio bit down, rez right for output, one thing has to be correct is framerate as hate 2/1 effects.