Whenever i change the phones battery if i take more than 30s or so the ramdisk loses all its data? is this supposed to happen? if so is there a way to simply reduce the ramdisk to 2-5 mb so that i can install everything on the device itself?
with wm5 ram stoped being used as storage because it loose it's data when the batt was pulled
with wm5 6 only flash is used for storage and because himalaya dont have that much flash people use ramdisk to get more storage
if you dec the ramdisk size you get more app running memory but not more storage
but there is pagepool for apprunning, ram disk which is supposed to be the RAM area for new devices i think, n storage which is supposed to be ROM... the 30 mb of storage i have can have programs installed on it... n so does the 30 mb ov ramdisk...
no pagepool is more kinda like cache
RAMdisk is RAM. By its nature RAM is volatile. WM5 and WM6 make it a lot less volatile by telling the OS that this area of RAM should be treated as a storage device. Although I've not yet lost a single bit from RAMdisk since I flashed my first WM5 ROM, I regularly copy my RAMdisk to SD and from SD to desktop HD, just to be on the safe side. If you loose data from WM5/6 RAMdisk, it's probably either because you short battery contacts while changing batteries or because there's something wrong with your backup battery.
WM5/6 Storage (also known as "Device" in installation procedures) is ROM, it is physically a totally different kind of chip.
All you can do by cooking ROMs is shift the sizes of RAMdisk/pagepool(indeed cache)/Program memory, but both pagepool and program memory are 100% volatile, 0% soft reset or empty battery resistant.
Maggy said:
RAMdisk is RAM. By its nature RAM is volatile. WM5 and WM6 make it a lot less volatile by telling the OS that this area of RAM should be treated as a storage device. Although I've not yet lost a single bit from RAMdisk since I flashed my first WM5 ROM, I regularly copy my RAMdisk to SD and from SD to desktop HD, just to be on the safe side. If you loose data from WM5/6 RAMdisk, it's probably either because you short battery contacts while changing batteries or because there's something wrong with your backup battery.
WM5/6 Storage (also known as "Device" in installation procedures) is ROM, it is physically a totally different kind of chip.
All you can do by cooking ROMs is shift the sizes of RAMdisk/pagepool(indeed cache)/Program memory, but both pagepool and program memory are 100% volatile, 0% soft reset or empty battery resistant.
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yeah maggy is right
and welcome back maggy
the reason people loose ramdisk at crash hardreset batt removal (it happens from time to time too ) have to do with some issues many himalayas seem to have with their backup battery
i guess youre right my backup battery seems to run out of juice very very quickly.
How do u replace the Backup battery...my pda also looses its data after a a little while....some times it also doesent starts..please also describe the kind of battery..because i tried my self and the battery is more thin than the PC Bios battery
the batt it selft should have a part nr which batt sellers worth their salt should know so write it down and ask them
but could be that the batt itself is not the only problem could also be the connector or simply the backup batt measuring system in the pda
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Hi everyone!
Have anybody ever tried to increase RAM memory by decreasing ROM?
I used to have Qtek 2020i and it was possible to distribute free memory among RAM and ROM on that device...
What about HTC Trinity?
no that changed when wm5 came and devices started using
flash as storage rather then ram like on wm2003 devices
since when does RAM store files? RAM gets erased after a device turns off and on again!!!
not in old wm2003 devices but hardreset or batt death cleared all ram
== all storage too
because flash was not used back then
I guess that's why they had backup lithium batteries onboard.
The onboard battery is used for keeping the alive the RAM, which holds your precious data, in pre-WM5 devices, in case of changing batteries and/or SIM, or when the main battery runs out.
But the battery isn't just go away with WM5. Many devices, including Trinity still have a battery. But it is probably solely used for time keeping.
that why soft Memmaid can't function well...
i mean the bar to decrease ROM and increase RAM.....
poor...i play a game on P3600 not very fast as some kind of PDA ...
first of all, excuse me for my bad english...
OK, to the problem !
when i have no programs running my diamond use up around 80-90% of ram..
what can i do about that? i've closed all the programs...
Which ROM are you running? We can't help if we don't know that.
i got 1.93 wwe rom, running tf3d and have 70%. If not running tf3d - 60%.
fredrikth said:
first of all, excuse me for my bad english...
OK, to the problem !
when i have no programs running my diamond use up around 80-90% of ram..
what can i do about that? i've closed all the programs...
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try to reset your device and ceck the used ram at startup...
ROM: 1,97,413,3 SVE
I have reseted, and it's still 80-90% :S
fredrikth said:
ROM: 1,97,413,3 SVE
I have reseted, and it's still 80-90% :S
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Install a task manager like dotfred's and check for running processes to see what is causing this behaviour.
and i thought my 44% was bad
Guys, what modifications do you suggest to lower the % of RAM? My Diamond has 1.37.401.3 WWE Rom version, apart of upgrading the Rom, is there any other solution? Thanks in advance...
i have samo rom how much ram usage you have?
i have 70%
Just so you know, you can save 10mb of memory by turning off the phone skin, i personally prefer it turned off and its by far worth the memory savings.
I used advance config to turn it off but im sure most of the tweak programs will have the option built within them.
thx i will try but i need to update rom. i need to backup this rom but how??
and when i update rom will i lose my igo8??
Currently 64% (after soft reset), but sometimes close to 80%, even if all apps are closed...some hints on managing or lowering the % of Ram would be very useful...with Fdcsoft task manager one can see, that the largest process running is cprog.exe (9464kb), device.exe (3832kb) and gwes.exe (3589kb), others are particulary smaller...guys, is there any other way to shrink the %?
Edit: will try that phone skin option...thanks
Im using the SWIFTBL 5.0 rom, my memory as we speak is 48%
Ive applied quite a few reg tweaks though
Guess i will have to do the rom upgrade in the near future...
With disposable config apps, and phone skin off, i managed to lower the RAM to approx 55%...starting to like it now
I use Memmaid and SKtools to free up Ram if needed.....try it
Keeping things well under 60% now...thanks guys
Since the timebomb thing in Dutty's 1.8 XTREME ROM, and I have to copy the CONTACT file from it, is it possible to do that by disabling the system time memory of it? I took off the battery several hours ago but it dosen't work...
Thanks in advance!
Upgrade to 1.9b
Unfortunately, things like clock memory and such are stored by a small battery in the phone. Not the battery you charge each time, but a battery that you can't remove without opening your phone up and physically removing it. That little battery keeps a small charge running through your phone so that your phone doesn't forget important little things (like time, settings, bios stuff).
I would recommend you just upgrade your ROM to 1.9b, and try to sync first to save your contacts. Good luck.
Caid.
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Unfortunately, things like clock memory and such are stored by a small battery in the phone. Not the battery you charge each time, but a battery that you can't remove without opening your phone up and physically removing it. That little battery keeps a small charge running through your phone so that your phone doesn't forget important little things (like time, settings, bios stuff).
I would recommend you just upgrade your ROM to 1.9b, and try to sync first to save your contacts. Good luck.
Caid.
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Thank you very much, Caid!
If I upgrade my ROM to 1.9b, the contacts in 1.8 will be lost, how could it be saved?
Try PIMbackup!
Hi guys,
I got a simple, dumb question (sorry about that).
But If there's more memory (RAM) is used on a handheld device, will it used more battery?
Will my device work longer when the memory is 50% loaded than 80% loaded?
(both not running applications).
I hope someone can give me a good answer
****head
Of course, the more memory you use, the more power you need, etc. So yes, more used memory will cost you more battery.
Really?
AFAIK RAM IC is powered as a whole and draws constant power regardless of how much memory is actually in use from OS perspective. nevermind, can you prove your statement in any way?
^ was correct, memory requires the same amount of power whether you use 128MB/256MB or 200MB/256MB because it requires the same amount of energy to store a '0' or a '1'.
The more data you have in memory tthe more memory accesses you would use to access what is in memory because it's there for a reason.
ok Thanks for the explanation :-D
Hi folks,
I have been trying to isolate a memory leak, or even get convinced I have a memory leak for several months on my Tilt. The Tilt is stock ROM with just the bloatware removed. The "leak" ONLY happens when, or should I say most significantly happens when "CHARGING" no matter if I'm syncing, or just plugged into a power supply. I have seen some mild references to this, but not clear solution in my searching.
With the program manager showing NO PROGRAMS running, It looses only about .01 MB every few minutes when it's NOT on the charger. However, on the charger, even without ActiveSync (just charging) you can watch the memory counter drop.. .2 or .5 MB every few moments. In a few hours on the charger, it runs the memory down to nothing.
I am in the process of installing CleanRAM and I have TaskManager, and while I can see the processes... I can't see any one that seems to be eating memory.
Does someone have a tip or trick, or idea how to fix this. I love this phone, and other than having to re-boot anytime I take it off the charger, or at least once a day... it's perfect.
The Program memory starts at about 64MB Free of the 101.38.
thanks in advance
A little update... I just got done doing some benchmarking which paints a more accurate picture... (ahh perceptions of time)...
Anway... when NOT charging my Tilt looses about .07 MB per minute. When charging it looses about .11 MB per minute memory.
Not a complicated test.. I did a reboot, brought up the memory screen and just logged the readings over time.