Have tried several different Sim cards from Cingular. So i know it's not my Sim card.
So here's the Story. I bought the phone on ebay, knowing it had some kind of stupid SIM lock on it. I figured no worries, just flash the firmware, and it will go away. So I upgraded to mobile 6 using the Wiki (couldn't do the memory swap unlock thing, since pocket pc 2003 doesn't let you into the OS if it can't use SIM card). So I flashed to mobile 6, everything works great (well.. great, but the clock resets everytime i take the battery out) except it won't let me use the phone, it see's the SIM card (becuase if I take it out, it wines about no SIM), everytime I try to go in the settings for phone or SMS it just says phone is busy wait 15 seconds and try again.
Couple of things I have tried, upgrading Radio... upgrades won't work.
Downgrading back 2003, doesn't work.
Any thoughts?
try buying a new battery. since it is a "second-hand" unit.
i think it's not buffed enough to powerup the phone module.
SilverSamurai said:
try buying a new battery. since it is a "second-hand" unit.
i think it's not buffed enough to powerup the phone module.
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Thanks for the tip but that didn't help. Got a brand new battery and everything... It's just a little frustrating to have only the PDA functionality but no phone.
i had that kind of problem... i never solved it... but JP did.
it's worth a try...
Click Here and READ the thread... hope it helps...
NightWinggl,
I think you've answered your on question.
If your BA is sim locked to another operator and you didn't manage to unlock it, phone/sim services won't work.
JP
@JP
i thought if the phone is "locked" that would throw an "invalid sim status" not "phone is busy wait 15 seconds and try again"?
@NightWinggl
it wont hurt to try unlocking the phone module as JP said to make sure it's unlocked and accepting your carrier. search for unlock in this forum.
hope that works for you.
Silver,
I'm not sure, but if i remember correclty when i was learning to upgrade my BA and reading the wiki for the first time, i upgraded my BA with Helmi's ROM but didn't SIM unlock it, and i believe the behaviour when using a "locked SIM" was as described by NightWinggl.
No "invalid sim status" or "invalid sim status" or "please insert sim" ... i think.
JP
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Hi, I unlocked my phone and installed Summiter's 2.17.7.2 WWE ROM from a few a weeks ago and just recently I began getting a "Invalid or missing SIM card. You can still make emergency calls if your service provider supports it." message on my phone. My phone is almost unusable now, if I reboot, I may be able to get my signal back, but then it go back to being invalid again. I haven't messed with the phone at all since upgrading.
Is there something I missed here? I did the phone unlock and CID unlock as directed in the instructions. Only now it started doing this. Can someone help please?
Re: Invalid SIM card, weeks after loading Summiter's 2.17 RO
I Got Served said:
Hi, I unlocked my phone and installed Summiter's 2.17.7.2 WWE ROM from a few a weeks ago and just recently I began getting a "Invalid or missing SIM card. You can still make emergency calls if your service provider supports it." message on my phone. My phone is almost unusable now, if I reboot, I may be able to get my signal back, but then it go back to being invalid again. I haven't messed with the phone at all since upgrading.
Is there something I missed here? I did the phone unlock and CID unlock as directed in the instructions. Only now it started doing this. Can someone help please?
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Do you by chance have a 64K SIM made by GemPlus? I've seen many reports of those SIMs giving up the ghost.
Indeed, it is a 64K Gemplus SIM card,
Is this something that has to do with the ROM? If I go to Cingular do you know if they will they give me a replacement SIM or are they going to refuse me service because I messed with the phone?
I Got Served said:
Indeed, it is a 64K Gemplus SIM card,
Is this something that has to do with the ROM? If I go to Cingular do you know if they will they give me a replacement SIM or are they going to refuse me service because I messed with the phone?
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Well, I'd set the phone's theme and stuff to look as stock as possible. But in my experience, if you walk in and tell them you get a SIM error they'll just give you a new one without putting any effort into the matter.
I actually have another SIM card that came in the box (it says 3GC), I'm just using my original SIM card from my Moto V220. I guess I'll give them a call and see if I can switch them.
I just hope it isn't the ROM that's doing it, or else it'll ruin this one too.
Probably not the ROM -- I have a Qtek 9100 with the original ROM, and my Cingular SIM gave up the ghost 1 week after I got the Qtek. I've read a couple other reports of SIM failures with Wizards.
The Cingular support rep wouldn't let me activate my other SIM card yet, she thought that since my name was still registered to my old Moto V220 on their system, that was the reason why it was locking out my phone. Eh, it's working for now, I'll see what happens.
When mine fried a few weeks back I took my old Blue Angel to the local Cingular store just to avoid such questions. They made a new SIM on the spot, no questions asked.
I have read all the horror stories, and even though I bought the phone on ebay and have no warranty, I decided to do it anyway.
I plugged into the back usb ports
I disabled antivirus, firewall, network connection, and even stopped all the process I felt were ok to stop
I charged the phone to 100%
I did everything right. As the install was proceeding, it got to 80%, the progress bar changed from blue to red, and stayed like that for 5 minutes. I got nervous, so I went to a different computer to get on this website to do some more research.
I am not sure what happened next, because I heard the little melody that plays when the phone first starts up after a hard reset. So I went back over to the phone to see. I went through the little sequence and got to the today screen.
And everything was a-ok. The phone is even still sim-unlocked, which surprised me. I was told it would have to be re-sim-unlocked after a rom upgrade.
And when it was doing the screen alignment, the little cross hairs were slow and jumpy with the old rom. With this new one, it moved fast and smooth. I am anxious to see if there are other speed increases.
I figured I would share this for the benefit of those who are hesitating on doing the official rom upgrade from Cingular. All my reservations were for nothing.
Congrats! And as for the SIM unlocking ... if done correctly ( read : SIM unlocked) it's not going to "relock"
You followed the steps smartly, disabling un-needed services, AV and firewall, etc. Leaving the computer alone and not minimizing the update screen while continuing to surf the web, etc .. priceless.
Best wishes!
When upgrading ROMS, does it matter if the SIM card is installed into the 8125 or left out? I have SIM unlocked mine and like it very much, but am very tempted to downgrade and do the CID unlock with the older ROM. I have read the forums a ton, but cannot ever recall seeing anything specific to leaving or, removing the SIM card when doing ROM upgrades.
Thanks for any input!! I have learned TONS out here!
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When upgrading ROMS, does it matter if the SIM card is installed into the 8125 or left out? I have SIM unlocked mine and like it very much, but am very tempted to downgrade and do the CID unlock with the older ROM. I have read the forums a ton, but cannot ever recall seeing anything specific to leaving or, removing the SIM card when doing ROM upgrades.
Thanks for any input!! I have learned TONS out here!
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it doesn't really matter. the only problem i could see is...
if you use a sim card that does not belong to that locked unit (like a tmobile sim in a locked 8125 from cingular) and try to unlock it, when one of the unlocking programs tries to install itself and ask for permission, you may get problems with constant popups of messages (on your 8125) telling you that you have an incorrect sim.
i just leave my sim out, though i've unlocked it fine before with proper sim inside.
Do you mind sharing what rom did you upgrade too? i have a cingular 8125 phone with tmobile service. I am afraid i might fry my phone...
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Do you mind sharing what rom did you upgrade too? i have a cingular 8125 phone with tmobile service. I am afraid i might fry my phone...
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I dont think your carrier should matter. I have cingular, but my sim is the old ATT wireless sim card. (So my phone had to be sim-unlocked for me to use it.)
It does matter what rom you use (unless you unlock the cid which I did not) I downloaded it from www.cingular.com/microsoft It will direct you to the htc website to download the rom.
I installed the upgrade on mine with the sim card in, and it worked fine and stayed sim-unlocked.
Hi all,
I bought an Alpine, brand new (unwanted contract upgrade) from eBay, received it today and put in the PayG o2 sim that I bought from carphone warehouse. The phone is locked to o2, as I tried my old virgin sim and got the old "Enter unlock code", but with the PayG sim, it goes straight in, except there is an exclamation mark next to the signal indicator. I can't figure out what it is. Do I have to wait, say 24 hours for the sim to receive a signal? Or is it something more suspect? I can't make calls or do anything that requires payment from the sim.
Cheers,
Karl
EDIT: I have googled, and done a hard reset. I have come across that problem of not being able to select "Prepaid" for the simcard. I'm even using an o2 sim card! Is there something else I need to do? I've seen the settings for gprs and mms, but I just need to get it so I can use it as a phone! Please help!
Can nobody help me?!?!?
Have you tried calling O2? I had no signal for a few hours last night and had the ! mark next to the aeriel symbol, maybe there were network problems in your area as well?
Alternatively have you tried the SIM in another phone to check it's been activated correctly?
You could also try SIM-Unlocking your phone using the tool somewhere on this forum (Search should find it) and try it with your Virgin SIM to see if it's actually the phone which isn't working.
Apart from that can't help.
Sorry!!!!
G
I have emailed them about the problem, and may well back it up with a call; I just don't want to be on hold for an hour listening to someone playing the trumpet with their arse.
My sister has an o2 phone, but is out at the moment. I will check with her when I next see her.
I have been looking at the all in one unlock tool in the General section, but am wary of it as I don't want to brick this phone. Will it wipe the WM2k3 OS do you know? Or is it just like an application that searches the system?
Thanks!
UPDATE: Have just decided to bite the bullet and try the all in one unlock. It worked and my XDA is now on my old Virgin Sim. I will try my o2 Sim in my sister's phone at some point. Could it be that I have bought a dodgy o2 sim?
UPDATE: I tested the Sim in my Sister's phone, and it came up with "Unregistered Sim". I then put in an unused Sim that she got as part of a promotional freebie type thing and it registered in under a minute! I'm going to take back the Sim that will not register, but before I do, is there anything else I can try?
SOLVED
Simcard refunded, am using spare that my sister had as it worked straight away.
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Glad to hear that - I had just dug out this morning the SIM unlock program and was going to PM it to you then I saw your post.
Enjoy your phone!
G
Thanks for your help buddy! Much appreciated
Hi
I just got on at&T 8925, I put in sim card and it did not ask for unlock code, so I guess it is unlocked, I put in my sim card (Fido Canada,works in other phone) and it show "no service" can not find phone network signal.
I tried
ATT ROM 1.57.502.2 and
RUU_Kaiser_ROGERS_WWE_1.83.631.4_radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R_Test.exe
radio 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.15.32
all same problem.
Can anyone help me, are these rom combinations not good? or something wrong with the device?
or anything I need to do?
thank you for your help !
Try another known-good SIM card. If you still cannot get service, then you probably have a hardware issue with the phone.
Sounds stupid, but did you make sure you put the SIM in the right way around.
You wouldn't believe how many people have not done this right.
Sounds like it's not unlocked... when I got mine it wasn't unlocked but it only asked for a code once.... just run the unlocker to be sure...
maybe to hard reset?
Hi thanks for everyone's help.
I think I put the sim card the right way , otherwise it will show 'no sim card'
I am keep trying other rom/radio; still no luck, it either keep searching or say 'no service'
I really hope it is not hardware problem.
hope if anyone has the experience and could help me
it really confuse me.
Thanks
alanalan11 said:
Hi thanks for everyone's help.
I think I put the sim card the right way , otherwise it will show 'no sim card'
I am keep trying other rom/radio; still no luck, it either keep searching or say 'no service'
I really hope it is not hardware problem.
hope if anyone has the experience and could help me
it really confuse me.
Thanks
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welll this might be a little solution i read in another thread...sum times the phone will not read the sim becuz its not making enough contact to the phone...so maybe a little piece of paper on top of the sim then put it in the phone MIGHT help..if it doesnt then ur phone is jacked up =P
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when i put my tmobile sim in my unlocked 8925 it worked and then a couple our couldnt get n e service... and i checked my brothers phone and dad and they didnt have service too... so maybe sumtimes the network will nto work for a while. or sumthing
If you go in the phone options and do a manual network search, does it find anything?
Thanks brian_v3ntura:
but I tried paper, same thing, maybe not be contact problem.
Thanks kilrah:
I tried that, it shows " cannot read setting from network, try viewing setting later or disconnect data connection and try again."
I did saw something online that maybe because the Fido sim card maybe old (about 3 years), but it did work with sth. like Samsung blackjack II. maybe Kaiser is more complicated.
just wonding if anyone have experience that old sim card may have problem with new phones.
I will keeping trying...
My SIM card is about 4 years old.
I'd bet your Kaiser has a hardware problem.
Hi, guys
I tried a friend's Fido sim card, it works, I don't what's the difference, but it is just like that, maybe I should go get a new card.
Thanks everyone.
good
as one of the boys ur sim might be damaged/old (power failure issues most likely)
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Hi, guys
I tried a friend's Fido sim card, it works, I don't what's the difference, but it is just like that, maybe I should go get a new card.
Thanks everyone.
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yeah, just what confused me is that the sim card still work with my other phones.
Hey guys,
Long time lurker here... and I'm having the same problem.
I have a foreign (Cyprus CytaMobile Vodaphone) SIM in my Kaiser. A couple times over the last few days I was getting the "no service" but if I reset (turn on/off) the device it was fine. Today I cannot get service on it at all. I tried it in an unlocked 1G iPhone and it didn't seem to work either.
I thought maybe the SIM is dead, however when the device it's in starts up, it asks me for the PIN set on the SIM card. I enter the PIN, and it unlocks the SIM. How could the SIM be dead if the PIN authenticates? However, when I put my regular Canadian Rogers SIM in, it works fine.
Where it usually says "Searching.." on the home screen, I once got "Denied, searching.." but I haven't been able to reproduce it.
Any ideas? The provider doesn't have a local roaming agreement, however for the past year it has always registered on the network and allowed me to check balance and send text messages.
Is it most likely a dead SIM or blocked by Rogers? I'm doubting the blocked part, but the successful PIN entry is what has me baffled...
Thanks!
Chris
Ok different SIM card also from Cyprus Cytamobile in a SE w810 does the same thing. Is Rogers seriously all of a sudden blocking these? There is no local roaming agreement, however I would always get the Rogers welcome text's and even be able to check balances. I've been doing this off and on for 4 years...
Anyone ever heard of something like this?
Thanks,
Chris
P.S. Sorry, getting a bit off topic but I thought the initial problem was related!
EDIT: Ok, I can also see all the SIM contacts and SMS messages stored on the SIM.
alanalan11 said:
Hi
I just got on at&T 8925, I put in sim card and it did not ask for unlock code, so I guess it is unlocked, I put in my sim card (Fido Canada,works in other phone) and it show "no service" can not find phone network signal.
I tried
ATT ROM 1.57.502.2 and
RUU_Kaiser_ROGERS_WWE_1.83.631.4_radio_sign_22.51.88.13_1.27.15.32R_Test.exe
radio 1.27.12.11 and 1.27.15.32
all same problem.
Can anyone help me, are these rom combinations not good? or something wrong with the device?
or anything I need to do?
thank you for your help !
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I also have the same problem with my tytn, I have a bad feeling it is hardware If you manage to find the problem please let me know. I have tried the paper thing and also all new firmware and OS nothing helps
Try setting it to GSM only (disable 3G) and see what happens.
To do that go to Settings->Personal->Phone->Band->Network Type=GSM.
If it works then, you might want to read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=419803
I bought new TyTN II, and when I insert my sim card, he doesn't recognize it, in the top of the screen is text NO SERVICE. In the start/settings/connesctions/connection setup, there is no my country to select, or my operater. Does the new cooked ROM may solve my problem? Please help...
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I bought new TyTN II, and when I insert my sim card, he doesn't recognize it, in the top of the screen is text NO SERVICE. In the start/settings/connesctions/connection setup, there is no my country to select, or my operater. Does the new cooked ROM may solve my problem? Please help...
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Sounds like its sim locked to me read the WIKI PAGE you will get everthing off there as to what to do
I was trying to find something about sim lock, but there is no free solution, just paying... But, are You sure that my problem is locked sim?
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I was trying to find something about sim lock, but there is no free solution, just paying... But, are You sure that my problem is locked sim?
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Does it say no sim card, or just no service. If it doesn't recognize the sim card. then it is probably sim locked. If it recognizes the sim card, but just offers no service, it could just be your connection settings.
buware said:
I was trying to find something about sim lock, but there is no free solution, just paying... But, are You sure that my problem is locked sim?
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Do as this thread goes it will do all you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433835
Hello,
I didn't want to start a new thread, because this one is somehow connected with my problem
So here it is:
I've been using my phone for about a month, it used to show full network ect. My friend gave me an anthenna for gsm mobiles (well, sometimes it didnt work properly when I was in the basement i.e.) so i tried it. Worked perfectly, except it was sticking out. So i thought that I don't want to use it and disconected it. Since then it shows no service, sometimes "1 dot" in network display. Tried hard reset - didn't work. When i put the anthenna back, it shows full network again.
Please, tell me, what should I try.
Thank you in advance
I seem to recall reading somewhere here that once you put in an external antenna, something gets tripped and the phone will only work with an external antenna from that point on.
Sorry -- don't recall any details. Try searching.