OK, I did a search and came up with nothing.
I feel dumb for asking this, but can't figure it out on my tilt. I don't have the unlimited data plan because ATT rapes me $45 to have it, so how do I put a password so that whenever it tried to connect to the ATT data network, it will popup with a password screen and ask me to enter it, otherwise it won't connect.
Thanks in advance.
I don't know of anyway to lock the data connection. There are some kiosk programs that will let you lock tha applications that may call for data though.
Well when I had my 6700 on verizon I could edit the connection settings and put a password for the data. There has got to be a way to do this. Pretty disappointing if its unable to work that way. I can't be the only one who has ever wanted to do this.
If your just wanting to prevent it from connecting unless you allow it to prevent random charges then this is what you need.
NODATA
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocket-PC-Software/246171/New-FREE-Utility/
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I've heard of a few friends getting bluetooth PAN tethering with only the standard non-tethering data plan ($40/45). Has anyone succeeded in doing this? I would try to figure it out myself, but all the bay area stores are sold outof the Tilt.
You can tether with any data plan. You can tether via USB or BT. I have the MediaMax plan, and tether with my Kaiser (and I did with my 8525 and Blackjack before them).
Now whether it is allowed or not is a different story. But, technically, it works with no issues.
you can tether any device without tethering package
They don't want you to because of the large data downloads, I say go ahead just don't go bragging about it our the may try to audit your acct.
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You can tether with any data plan. You can tether via USB or BT. I have the MediaMax plan, and tether with my Kaiser (and I did with my 8525 and Blackjack before them).
Now whether it is allowed or not is a different story. But, technically, it works with no issues.
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I should note that at least one of the other people that got it to work without a proper tethering plan was in the same situation as you: they started out with a Blackberry, and then just didn't switch plans to another plan.
For new Tilt owners, AT&T offers a handful of plans, all under the "PDA" plan family. "PDA Personal Max" is $40, and doesn't include tethering, "PDA Personal Max - Tethering" does, but is a ridiculous $70.
Has anyone gotten tethering to work on a new AT&T non-tethering plan? What happens if you try to connect to the phone via PAN without the tethering plan? I wonder if a hacked ROM could fix this, if it's blocked by software on the phone.
I use a program called PDANet. It's like $30 but well worth it because it can save you a lot of money. http://www.junefabrics.com/pdanet/index.php
It more or less makes it appear as if your data is coming from your phone instead of your laptop.
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I should note that at least one of the other people that got it to work without a proper tethering plan was in the same situation as you: they started out with a Blackberry, and then just didn't switch plans to another plan.
For new Tilt owners, AT&T offers a handful of plans, all under the "PDA" plan family. "PDA Personal Max" is $40, and doesn't include tethering, "PDA Personal Max - Tethering" does, but is a ridiculous $70.
Has anyone gotten tethering to work on a new AT&T non-tethering plan? What happens if you try to connect to the phone via PAN without the tethering plan? I wonder if a hacked ROM could fix this, if it's blocked by software on the phone.
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I wonder why the rep I spoke to told me that of all the PDA plans, all included tethering? I was fighting tooth and nail to get the PDA unlimited + 1500 SMS / free M2M messaging but was unable to because "the IMEI for the Kaiser is being reported as an unknown device".
I ended up having to get the PDA Personal Unlimited + shared unlimited messaging for my family plan. Anyway, PDA Personal Unlimited is supposed to have tethering included.
Can't get PDAnet to work. Looks like it uses same style to connect as when I use the connection wizard anyway. I doubt this program subverts cingular's ability to tell what is using what data connection...
Anyway, I googled around and tried the different usernames and passwords and APN's I found but no luck with PDAnet...
any suggestions anyone?
What about USB Modem by Mobile Stream?
It worked well with my PPC-6700....
http://www.mobile-stream.com/usbmodem_wm.html
Data plans have NO bearing on whether your phone can tether or not. If data access is enabled on your account with any plan in place you have the "ability" to tether, but not necessarily "permission". It doesn't matter if it is a pay as you use it or a full laptop connect plan. For those that are tethering without the proper data plan it is like driving without a seat belt. You may have driving for hundreds of miles without anything happening, but one day......
For the Tilt, the program Internet Sharing works like a champ. Just launch it, click connect, and plug it up to your computer.
Download this cab to install it.
For the Tilt: There is no need to install it. The IntrShr.exe or something similar is right in the \Windows directory. Just make a shortcut to your start menu for it.
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For the Tilt: There is no need to install it. The IntrShr.exe or something similar is right in the \Windows directory. Just make a shortcut to your start menu for it.
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Correct, but the cab just makes it easier for a noob.
am i doing somehing wrong becaus it askes for a username and password. It is like I am trying to dial up or something..
I am an idiot. I enabled the dialup network... which ATT told me to do. JERKS!. in anyevent, you must enable the PAN network then it works AWESOME... My speeds are excellent too. about 800-1300 down and about 300-500up... PERFECT...
thanks XDA
Internet sharing on my Kaiser/TyTn II works like a champ and quite easy to set up...Your provider, in my case ATT, might and some say will notice large amounts of data use so beware of that. They will audit and go after your money in that case. I dont use it frequently even though I have unlimited data plan with Media Net for the overpriced amount of $39.99...geeee I'm really glad they don't charge me $40.00
I know I read somewhere u can use ur wifi and not ur at&t internet as a modum if u turn off the phone at&t will never know anyone else reaed this and if so know where it is? thanx
Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
can anyone help?
How exactly would it be "free" internet? You are still going to need a data connection to access the proxy server.
it would be free because I would not be paying internet charges through my cellular provider using their wap server to access the internet, rather I would bundle the cost into my already home internet charges if I set up a home proxy and pointed my phone there.
It still would register as me making a call, but it would not register as me using the internet, hence 'free' internet.
Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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if you redirect your proxy outside of AT&Ts MediaNET you will not get charged
OK, apparently you didn't read anything I typed. Let's look at it another way.
I have a Tilt. I can enable or disable AT&T's proxy server. Does it really matter? NO. Why? Because in both cases data is being transmitted over EDGE or HSDPA. It's bits and bytes traveling over the airwaves. Whether you are directly connected to the internet, using AT&T's proxy or your own proxy, it's all 1's and 0's to them. If they see those 1's and 0's being transmitted from your phone to the internet, you are getting charged for it.
If it was that easy to bypass AT&T's data plan, wouldn't you think everyone would be doing it? I know I would.
Prove me wrong.
In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
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In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
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Good explanation
You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges. There used to be a great program over at MoDaCo called NoData which when you ran it showed you the connections you had and let you disable the ones you wanted to have off. Then you could use Wifi without starting a GPRS connection. The program still exists, do a search for it hear or google it at MoDaCo. Only thing, I seem to recall that the creator of the program said it was only for WM5. I've seen people say that it works in WM6 but haven't tried it myself.
Short of that you could just go into DataComm and tap on the Data connection icon, to turn if off as you tap WLan to turn it on. Of course that will disable your data connection and push e-mail and you'll have to remember to start it up again afterwards if you want to get your push e-mail.
jspetrino said:
Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
I had a similar question, which got no replies....
T-mobile puts you through it's proxies, so that pictures etc are compressed, which is a bit pants. That's one reason why you might want to do as described in the OP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345029
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You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges.
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This simply isn't true. If you enable WiFi and you're passing traffic through GPRS, then you don't have your WiFi network configured correctly.
Go to Settings-Connections-WiFi and change the pull down for your adapter from "Work" to "The Internet. Associate with AP. Surf to your heart's content without using the cellular network.
You can shut off the phone connection if you like, but there's no need to do so.
Edit: Just for giggles, I fired up my WiFi configured as above and grabbed a 3MB file directly on the phone. GPRS Monitor recorded zero traffic increase.
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
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yes I used to be Verizon never go back to them again! I used to use a quick fix on one of my LG phones redirecting to a proxy and i got free internet that way.
When ever I use wifi then leave the location or hot spot, I sometimes forget and start using my phones internet and get charged because I don't have a wireless data plan. Is there any way I can stop my phone from accessing the internet? I called to have it deactivated but was told I cant because I have the Family text plan.
I'd suggest KaiserTweak. It's easy to find here. I have ATT's MEdiaNET disabled, as that's what I have & don't want to use [yet].
Jeremie
or you can just goto connection settings and delete the APN
or there's a program call "MoDaCo_NoData" that can toggle the APN off so phone won't be able to access it
just turn it back on when you need to use it
hi everyone. im new to the forums. i just recently traded out my l7 for a tilt. And i love it. the only problem is im not on a great plan. No unlimited internet or text.
So i do most of my browsing using the wifi on the phone online. but ive been wondering if there was a way to disable the phone from actually using the cell phone service to connect to the internet. Id rather just stick to my wifi that i use at home or in other locations. cuz im afraid im going to rack up the phone bill.
if anyone can explain how to do this it would help out alot.
thanks in advance.
disabled internet
what you normally do before asking for help is search the forums. The search string "disable internet" we do the trick.
try it
Might work...
If you don't mess with your settings often, you could simply delete the internet settings. Search as was suggested, but I think settings>connections>connections and deleting those settings should prevent your tilt from connecting. If you never text, ask your carrier to block data access.
NoData
i had the same problem and found that Modaco.com had created some software called Nodata
ths enables you too enable and disable all data connections.
find it here:
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility/
hope this helps
i just delete the last letter of the APN so that the device errors out when it tries to use data. will take a look at the modaco.com link thanks for sharing @madgerald
Maybe I didn't search enough or someone already answered this question, but is there a way to connect to WiFi without a data plan? I want to know so that I can download apps to my phone. I already tried going straight to settings>wireless controls>wifi settings and try finding my wireless network, but my phone can't find it.
Hitsuke said:
Maybe I didn't search enough or someone already answered this question, but is there a way to connect to WiFi without a data plan? I want to know so that I can download apps to my phone. I already tried going straight to settings>wireless controls>wifi settings and try finding my wireless network, but my phone can't find it.
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It should work ,that is what i'm doing with my second G1,
OF COURSE!!!
What's the point of WiFi if it needs a data plan?
If it can't find your router, then either the router isn't configured to be detectable, or you aren't within range. The phone's WiFi range is quite limited due to power and size constraints.
I don't understand then. My wifi should be detectable since I can connect and find it with my computers and I'm certainly within range since I'm standing right next to my router. Are there any particular settings needed for the router? Also as a side note (maybe this is the problem) but my phone isn't registered with google on the obvious account that I don't have a data plan.
for my wifi to work, i had to add the epc.tmobile.com apn