Using IM (aim) with WiFi? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I have T-Mobile, with no data plan and can't use AIM through them. I tried IM+ but it doesn't seem to work. Any thing else I can try?
Thanks, Ed

not sure of the program but
anything internet related works just fine for me
when i in
settings>connections>connections>advanced>pick network
pick my network setting or what ever the name the non my isp setting
have on your device

I tried setting it up, but the T-Mobile rep told me that I can't get onto T-zones or IM without having a data plan.

Oh your trying to use wifi hotspots that requires you to pay! If you use free wifi, than im+ would connect right away.

I'm using my Wifi at home right now. I think I have a problem with IM+ thats why I'm asking if theres another way to get AIM.

Try Agile...
http://anonym.to/?http://rapidshare.com/files/57054171/agile_messenger_ppc.CAB.html

get Slick Instant messenger

I tried agile, but it told me my username/password is incorrect:/
Same thing as with IM+, weird

get Slick.

I use Palringo.

redsrule2500 said:
get Slick.
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Do you have any links for this program?

ive tried a lot of AIM programs and all of them are trials or doesnt work well. (Aglile, slick, IM+)
Use Octrotalk.. Its Free and Works with WIFI and it's EASY to use.
http://www.octro.com/
**I only want to use AOL. Why do I need Google account?
Ans: Now you can do without a Google account. In the Login Information screen of OctroTalk, select Register new octro.net account. Enter your username and password and select Ok. Now you are all set to use AOL account. Go to Menu -> Legacy Accounts and configure your AOL account.

plchan said:
Do you have any links for this program?
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http://www.lonelycatgames.com/?app=slick

No IM via WiFi !?!
Yea, what's up with that! My 8525 did MSN just fine with no data plan. WiFi worked great. Now i get into this 8925, and none if the IMs work unless I get a data plan. AT&T conspiracy? It's all about the money, right?

use the aim 2.0 its the best..

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OZ IM aim tilt issues

Is it me or does the OZ IM client that comes with the AT&T Tilt not work right when you talk to other people?
My friend has the real AIM client on his Mogul and I tried to chat with him via OZ IM and all he sees is blank messages.
I tried Agile and it works great. I have to buy it though, so...I tried the AIM client (from the UK site) and it works too, but it's crap because the notifications are bad and it seems like an old program.
Any ideas?
its bc Oz IM uses text messaging instead of data and the mobile version of aim doesnt support text messaging.
Which IM service you using? MSN, AIM? I don't use AIM or Yahoo, but I do use MSN form time to time. Windows Live works just fine for that, and uses data, not SMS.
I wanted to use AIM. I have an unlimited data plan and that's the reason I wanted to use data instead of SMS. Any way to make this client work? Don't want to buy Agile.
MakaveliReturns said:
I wanted to use AIM. I have an unlimited data plan and that's the reason I wanted to use data instead of SMS. Any way to make this client work? Don't want to buy Agile.
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Yup, dont use the OZ client. Download Palringo or Octrotalk.. Both free. both will work with AIM and all the other clients and use data.
drellmsu said:
Yup, dont use the OZ client. Download Palringo or Octrotalk.. Both free. both will work with AIM and all the other clients and use data.
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Thanks. I gave the Palgrino app a try, which one do you recommend?
Works!!
Palgrino is working for me. its quick and stays connected even when minimized.
I use Slick. It works really well and uses data.
Hi:
Do any of these have smilies?
I just installed Palringo, and it looks very nice, but no smilies.
Thanks!
PS: I don't mind paying for it, if it has a nice enough interface, and smilies. Palringo looks amazing, it's exactly what I am looking for except for the smilies.
Beejive had it on my blackberry untill i got the tilt. works like a charm for me and it shows notifications and smilies and supports all clients
http://www.beejive.com/wm6/index.php
The problem in my eyes with the applications that use DATA connections instead of SMS, is that while logged in, now my Tilt has to maintain a live data connection with the network.
What I like about an SMS version is that no matter where I am, 3G, Edge, it just works over SMS. True it's not as "responsive" as a data connection, but it's mobile IM. What do you expect?
On that note, since I'm running aftermarket cooked ROM, does anyone have the OZ IM client that the tilt shipped with available?

aim cab

can someone post the aol instant messanger cab from the att tilt ext rom or from anywhere else for that matter. thanks
Lol... I am trying to figure out how to get the Tilt AIM back too after cutting out the AT&T installed apps.
try this one http://rapidshare.com/files/73072488/aim_2.0_for_PPC_by_aagung.rar.html
Original AIM. MSN, Yahoo Cab from ATT?
Anyone have the cab that can install the original chat features from the ATT version of the tilt?
jesseasi said:
Anyone have the cab that can install the original chat features from the ATT version of the tilt?
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look here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XDA-LiveTiltAddonFiles
Do you mean the OZ app? You can download that off medianet.
How can I connect to these built-in messengers using wifi instead of data connection?
its in the Kaiser Cab collection fount here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438
its the OZ_Instant_messenger plugin on this page: http://www.cinetsystems.com/xda/index.php?path=Kaiser+Cab+Collections/
and to save time i attached the cab
EDIT:
raca in the CommManager turn on the wifi if you already havent, then go into settings > connections > wifi and add your stuff in there
does anybody know if this app uses txt messages or data?
I can't say for certain, but the TMobile MDA has a similar app by the same name, and that one uses sms.....
The AT&T app uses SMS messages.
If you're looking for one that uses 3G or WiFi, you will need to shell out some $$ for Agile Messenger or another similar program.
about tmobile aim oz working with tilt as txt msging
just incase if anyone was wondering about tmobile & this (i tried this forever) It doesn't work. I tried all of the cabs. I spoke to someone who worked at a store and they said as soon as my phone was unlocked, oz messenger aim will not work anymore... (used to have a tmo dash and my aim really did stop working after unlocking it) it would be awesome if someone could figure this one out..
I use agilemobile for AIM, ICQ, Google-chat and more.
Pretty impressive BTW
I was thinking that perhaps the problem is that I have the cingular hidden proxy disable. Can anyone comment on this? You can just put a proxy into the settings of AIM alone, but I'm not sure what to enter. If someone can let me know, I'd appreciate it, and will test it.
OZ messenger sucks I think. I use Palringo and it's free.
OZ uses SMS so for everyone "HI how you doing buddy" you send you use one text message.
To my knowledge and looking at my bill Palringo uses data and not sms.
use aim 2.0
gqstatus0685 said:
OZ messenger sucks I think. I use Palringo and it's free.
OZ uses SMS so for everyone "HI how you doing buddy" you send you use one text message.
To my knowledge and looking at my bill Palringo uses data and not sms.
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Your right, palringo uses data. But it still has major flaws. If you log in more than 5 or 6 times in a row it doesn't allow you to log back in again. Which is really stupid, because why would I be AIM/Yahoo/whatever if no one is online? So I sign off.
Idk, I still use it but it sucks.
I use OctroTalk works fine for me
free all in one IM client has AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, Jabber, and Google talk
rico002 said:
try this one http://rapidshare.com/files/73072488/aim_2.0_for_PPC_by_aagung.rar.html
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i tried this cab a while back and it didnt work
i still can not IM

How do I make tzone work on my tilt?

I have a unlocked tilt flashed with HTC rom. I configured it to tmobile setting. I added the $5.99 tzones feature. However, I can only able to use IE to browse http://wap.tzones.com not other websites? But i saw someone on this forum are able to browse website like yahoo and google using IE. How can i do that?
thanks
Hi, I do have the 5 dollars plan before... i think it can only can access t-zone..... than i upgrade it to the 20 dollars plan. the IE work so great.... and all the function on the kaiser work perfect... like the weather stuff.
stick in the t-zones proxy. google "216.155.165.50" and you'll be able to browse most any site after you set it up properly. not all things will work, but basic browsing is good to go
I enter the settings for tmobile and the internet works fine. I have the tilt with the htc home plugin installed. My question is that when im hooked up to activesync the weather program works and programs such as yahoo and aim messenger. But when i unhook the data cable it doestn connect to those services. Is there nyway to get this working? thanks
Get the CAB file
The file was created by another forum member.
This will setup the 5.99 plan on your system. Make sure you also run the hidden proxy OFF cab file on your Tilt.
With that you should be able to get email, brows web pages, and utilize Google's and Microsoft's maps.
liquidsilver said:
Get the CAB file
The file was created by another forum member.
This will setup the 5.99 plan on your system. Make sure you also run the hidden proxy OFF cab file on your Tilt.
With that you should be able to get email, brows web pages, and utilize Google's and Microsoft's maps.
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I already PMed you about this but maybe someone else knows the answer. I run the hidden proxy off cab install this and it says that "your are not authorized to view this page" for any program?
Just out of curiosity, can you confirm that Tmobile has activated the 5.99 plan on your number?

getting email with tzones

i searched the forums but i still dont understand how is that you get to use your pop email like hotmail with the 5.99 tzones plan.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
frozinwater said:
i searched the forums but i still dont understand how is that you get to use your pop email like hotmail with the 5.99 tzones plan.. any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Hotmail is not a pop server.
Setting up a pop server is not completed, you just set it up through the settings of your SMS/MMS/Email manager... Whether you're using tzones or a regular internet thing, it doesn't matter.
oh so i dont have to set up any kind of specific settings.. just do like i would with the total internet for 19.99..? (and im assuming hotmail wont work with this then..?)
frozinwater said:
oh so i dont have to set up any kind of specific settings.. just do like i would with the total internet for 19.99..? (and im assuming hotmail wont work with this then..?)
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Exactly. Same as the 19.99 package.
I use mail2web. Being that its an exchange server, you get the emails exactly when they come in and you can synchronize your contacts, calendar and stuff.
aad4321 said:
not that this has to do with anything, but a friend of mine who has verizon, they have the plan where its 15.99 for unlimited tv, data, and gps. i think thats a great deal
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Paid for GPS?
ivanmmj said:
Exactly. Same as the 19.99 package.
I use mail2web. Being that its an exchange server, you get the emails exactly when they come in and you can synchronize your contacts, calendar and stuff.
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But you need to setup the proxy, don't you?
Yes, for an exchange server you do.

Windows Live for Windows Mobile....How I'm being billed....

I been reading other threads and i cannot find an answer. I even called att and they were no help.
I installed the windows live for windows mobile version 10.6.0034.0800 fixed.
When i'm using this messenger, how i'm being billed. Data? or Text message?
I have a unlimited data plan, so i'm hoping i'm not being charged per message. Can anyone help me with this question.
Thanks
The Tilt has Oz Messenger on it which has WLM, AOL, and Yahoo which connects via their phone network and it counts as SMS for every message you send/receive. With the Windows Live Messenger cab, it depends actually, if you are connecting through the ATT network then it's considered SMS but if you connect to the net Wi-Fi, no charges except whatever you pay for Wi-Fi (like pay hotspots)
Alemaker
I'm not using the oz messenger with the provided windows live. I'm using another version of the messenger that i found in another thread.
10.6.0034.0800 fixed. version
best way to go then. The Oz Messenger only connects through the ATT network whereas the Windows Live Messenger cab you installed can use either the ATT network or Wi-Fi.That's what I'm using also. Here's another little catch. If you connect using the ATT network(which is then an SMS for each message) if you start a conversation with someone internationally, you are charged international text rates.
Found that out the hard way when a friend in Germany started a convo with me!!
Alemaker said:
With the Windows Live Messenger cab, it depends actually, if you are connecting through the ATT network then it's considered SMS but if you connect to the net Wi-Fi, no charges except whatever you pay for Wi-Fi (like pay hotspots)
Alemaker
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Seriously? I assumed the live messenger cab would use the data connection, not SMS. Does it really send via SMS when on network and wifi when off?
Alemaker said:
best way to go then. The Oz Messenger only connects through the ATT network whereas the Windows Live Messenger cab you installed can use either the ATT network or Wi-Fi.That's what I'm using also. Here's another little catch. If you connect using the ATT network(which is then an SMS for each message) if you start a conversation with someone internationally, you are charged international text rates.
Found that out the hard way when a friend in Germany started a convo with me!!
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Well....
I'm screwed, thanks for your help.
anyone else ?
Unless they changed it really recently, I tested it-on ATT=SMS, I barely text anyone and when my friend I.M.'ed me from Germany, all those showed on my bill as international SMS-on Wi-Fi=no charges
That's why I dumped Oz Messenger
are you still using the windows messenger cab?
Yup I'm using the exact one you listed. I just try not to use it while I'm on the ATT network cuz I only have the 200 message plan but it doesn't matter to me as alot of times I'm in a area with Wi-Fi so I just disconnect the ATT data connection and connect via Wi-Fi
gai-jin said:
Seriously? I assumed the live messenger cab would use the data connection, not SMS. Does it really send via SMS when on network and wifi when off?
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It's easy to check,
Just start a conversation with someone using Windows Live Messenger on your phone and write down the exact time and date then check your next bill. All data and texts are time stamped on the bill.
Alemaker said:
It's easy to check,
Just start a conversation with someone using Windows Live Messenger on your phone and write down the exact time and date then check your next bill. All data and texts are time stamped on the bill.
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So as long as i use wifi i dont have to pay right?
and how do u disconnect the att connection?
correct; and just click on the 3G or Edge icon and a small menu will show up with a disconnect option button, if you are using a cooked ROM, then open Comm Manager directly and disconnect the data connection.
Alemaker said:
correct; and just click on the 3G or Edge icon and a small menu will show up with a disconnect option button, if you are using a cooked ROM, then open Comm Manager directly and disconnect the data connection.
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K....
Thanks
Windows Live using SMS?!? I don't use MSN messinger very often, but I don't remember it using SMS, it uses data.
the version of the messenger that i have i believe is the one the one that comes with the new windows mobile 6.1. I know that the messenger that came with my tilt uses sms messages instead of data. I guess i will be using OCTRO TALK.
Any other messenger suggestions?
GWelker62 said:
Windows Live using SMS?!? I don't use MSN messinger very often, but I don't remember it using SMS, it uses data.
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As this seems to need clarification, I spoke with ATT data tech support and per ATT, when you use an I.M. client directly ( not going to the net and using a web based I.M.) it is billed as I.M. which is text.
If you connect to the net with MediaNet and then go to WL Mobile website or Yahoo website etc. and use I.M. web-based, it is data, but directly connecting with the WLM cab or the proprietary Oz I.M., it is billed as text even though it uses the MediaNet connection.
ATT Tilt here and using the latest WL (10.6.0034.0800 fixed) and .0600 before it. On an unlimited data connection (PDA Personal Max I believe).
I use it regularly and never see any text message usage - I have read numerous postings that back that up? I'm not saying I don't believe what Alemaker is saying, I just find it hard to believe. I've just never had it use my text messages and neither have any of the other folks in my office (7 of us here with Tilt's and all using with IM).
NOTE - If you use the built in OZ IM, yes it will use sms text messages. This is not Windows Live though. It is an app that allows you to connect to the major IM networks. WL is designed to use an internet connection (IE Data, Wifi, etc.).
That's fine-I have seen billed as text them from international I.M.'s and to be honest, the CSR's at ATT gave me conflicting answers themselves, one said data, one said text and one even said billed same as e-mail(data). So that's why I contacted data tech support. And if it truly does turn out to use data-all the better. Just stating what I have seen. I don't I.M. mobile alot to begin with but just I.M.'ed someone using the WLM cab app and will look at my next bill
TCreed said:
I use it regularly and never see any text message usage - I have read numerous postings that back that up? I'm not saying I don't believe what Alemaker is saying, I just find it hard to believe. I've just never had it use my text messages and neither have any of the other folks in my office (7 of us here with Tilt's and all using with IM).
NOTE - If you use the built in OZ IM, yes it will use sms text messages. This is not Windows Live though. It is an app that allows you to connect to the major IM networks. WL is designed to use an internet connection (IE Data, Wifi, etc.).
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I agree... What the others are saying about Windows Live Mobile (replaced Mobile MSN) I can't agree with. Windows Live syncs my Hotmail and has a mobile MSN messinger client. And so far I haven't seen it use SMS for IMs.
knight2424 said:
I been reading other threads and i cannot find an answer. I even called att and they were no help.
I installed the windows live for windows mobile version 10.6.0034.0800 fixed.
When i'm using this messenger, how i'm being billed. Data? or Text message?
I have a unlimited data plan, so i'm hoping i'm not being charged per message. Can anyone help me with this question.
Thanks
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if you are using that version of WLM then i can garuntee you that you are using data and not text. There are several clients that support WLM including oz messenger that use texts, but the windows mobile version you described definitely uses data.

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