I installed Garmin XT on my Kaiser to try it out, got it to work but did not like it, I removed it but now every time I soft reset or restart the phone it asks me if I want to install Garmin XT, I have removed everything I can think of from the phone memory and from the storage card, but it still asks me, there is nothing in the startup folder I can think of that is doing this, can anyone give me a clue to what I can do to stop this pop up ?
Thanks in Advance
Look for a folder called 2577 on your Storage Card. It probably has an autorun.inf in it. Either delete it or rename it.
Just a blip, I spoke with a Garmin PDA specialist at CES last week and they will be making a version of the program that will run on a Kaiser WITHOUT needing a memory card, like the other mapping progs, finally! He said fairly soon, next few weeks/months.
Related
Hallo,
I recently bought TomTom navigator 5. apart of the fact that v5 didn't install in WM5 and I had to wait for release 5.2, now I have this big problem: the program gets stuck trying to load the maps.
I tried copying the maps manually to the SD card. if I unplug the SD, tomtom complains that there are no maps and closes. if I plug again the SD, the program gets stuck and I can't do anything else (it freezes the whole device)
any clue?
thanks
you need 5.21 update (wm5 most compliant).
you can download it from tomtom.com
BR
I already have 5.21, it was a typo...
the problem is that it gets stuck when loading maps from the SD card...
it otherwise loads doesn't find the maps, and closes. but the program IS correctly installed...
thanks
m8...its happened to my sometimes on my exec that I had to uninstall via activ sync and reinstall again to correct...make sure you also have an empty folder named tomtom on the root of the sd and another on the root of the poquet pc and be sure that the map you have is correct for tomtom 5 .
BR
I tried, and it doesn't work (sigh sigh)
Also, I tried changing the SD card (you never know) but nothing changed.
all folders are present, though I had to create the one in the SD card.
still freezes *sigh*
also, tomtom help doesn't help at all, and I hate spending money for a non working software :evil:
m8...what version windows are you running....wm5 or 2003?
another thing ...I got stuck like that once after already having installed twice on two other xda2s's running the exact latest rom from 02... that time i shortcuted it by not installing any voices insted i put the voices folder on the card and put voices in there....that gave me this problem also.....installed a couple of voices from the disc on to the xda memory and voila its working like a charm.
BR
I'm running wm5, standard (no tuma-ivan-etc)
I'll try as you suggested this evening, I hope to solve it
thanks for your help!!
TomTom is one of the crappiest, buggiest piece of commercial software I've seen in a long time. Once you get it up and running it's usually OK for a month or two, but it generally soils its underwear after a short time and needs a reinstall.
I mean, 5.21, how long as 5 been out? 21 minor revs since then? Do they actually test their software, or just ship it and wait for the users to do it for them? I work in the industry and I am far from impressed with them. Especially given what it costs.
Any how, as I said, periodically you need to completely clean it out. Remove all folders. Delete your map directory on the SD card and copy over the original copy of the map you purchased. Delete all of the program directories it makes. I found as many as 6 or 7 directories on my storage card where it's scatterbrain configuration liked to hide data. Once I had to completely cull it from the registry to get it going, all keys with "navigator" and "tomtom" were suspect. Beware tho, "navigator" might be in there through other applications.
Oh, another thing to check...sometimes it gets sadomasicistic and decides to set a config file or two as read only. One day it's working, the next it fails to remember settings changes. You can fix that one without a reinstall if you can figure out which file it is (generally the map config file).
However, despite all this, sometimes you need to hard-reset to get it going again.
thanks to all, but I think I found a good solution.
I brought back the software to the vendor and changed it with navigator pn. it works perfectly
it's more of a workaround than a solution, but hey - at least I gave my money to a company that deserves it.
thanks destinator!
Ah well that was a waste of a day.
Just got a Universal so I tried to set up my Alpine as a GPS unit as an excuse to keep it instead of being made to get rid of it by the other half, a combination of Hard Reset and then Soft Reset when it said "Customising in 3 seconds" I managed to get it with only 0.56MB used of Storage.
As I am using version 562 of the Great-Britain-Map I managed to squeeze the map folder onto the root directory of the Alpine (all 102MB of it), I then installed TomTom into the /Storage folder
Thinking "Ah ha! here we go!" I tried launching TomTom - went through all the "Language", "Voice" etc screens - and then disaster! "No maps found!", try as I might I can't get it to go past that screen. If I put in my SD card with the map on it then it finds the map but I don't want to have to use an SD card!!!
I've wasted 12 hours on this so far today, so if anyone has any bright ideas I'd greatly appreciate them, otherwise I'll bite the bullet and buy an additional card so I can use one for TomTom in the Alpine and one for Storage in the Universal.
G
Isn't it strange! You give up, go get a cup of tea and an idea pops into your head!
I created a folder called "storagecard" in the root directory of the Alpine (it won't let you create one called "storage card".
I moved the map from "/" to "/storagecard" started TomTom and voilla it works!!!
Alpine with no SD card running TomTom 5.21 - will see how it performs, but I now have an excuse for the missus!
G
gquipster said:
Isn't it strange! You give up, go get a cup of tea and an idea pops into your head!
I created a folder called "storagecard" in the root directory of the Alpine (it won't let you create one called "storage card".
I moved the map from "/" to "/storagecard" started TomTom and voilla it works!!!
Alpine with no SD card running TomTom 5.21 - will see how it performs, but I now have an excuse for the missus!
G
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Tea is great stuff, its what made this country great!
Just awaiting my delivery of TomTom and teh GPS so reading these thread with interest.
Tom
Interesting approach but I can't help asking why?
You are leaving very little memory for other applications and SD card prices are hardly extortionate these days. Can you get the Speed camera database in 'base' memory also?
Phil
Well I don't want to run any other applications so not too worried about there being a lack of memory and I wanted to find a use for the Alpine so that my wife wouldn't make me throw it out / sell it having just bought the Universal.
If I couldn't make it work then I'd have bought an SD card but it worked so I'm chuffed
Definition of annoying....
The GPS unit arrives - not the software!!!!!
What am I supposed to do this evening, sit and look at it?
Tom
Get VisualGPSCE (free, visualgps.net) and go for a walkabout, have a tinker just to see how the GPS receiver works
This is the second time this has happened and I cant figure it out. I was running the 2.17 rom the first time. Then I now have Shoguns new beta rom and same thing has happened. I cant text or anything including mms, but that has never worked since I got this phone. When you try to open it nothing happens at all, like it ignores you or something. Other than that and the bluetooth not working anymore its all good.
Any ideas before doing another hard reset?
Dave
Assmanof said:
This is the second time this has happened and I cant figure it out. I was running the 2.17 rom the first time. Then I now have Shoguns new beta rom and same thing has happened. I cant text or anything including mms, but that has never worked since I got this phone. When you try to open it nothing happens at all, like it ignores you or something. Other than that and the bluetooth not working anymore its all good.
Any ideas before doing another hard reset?
Dave
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what all apps have you installed since installing the roms?
I installed all the apps on the ext rom installer but this happened before those were installed. The only programs I can think of that are the same is Opera, Total Commander, and tcpmp. If it helps any I was messing around with Omap trying to see if I could squeeze out a few more mhz and I froze it up. Come to think of it I cant soft reset unless the storage card is removed or else it will freeze on the omap program. Anyways I dont see how the entire messenging program stopped working. Any way this could be related?
DAVE
Just in case anybody cares about this thread I found out some strange info. With the storage card out everything works again. Put it back in and its all messed up. Also I cannot boot it up with the card in the phone anymore it hangs on the omap screen. Any way to make that screen not come up everytime? I couldve sworn it didnt used to pop up everytime I rebooted before. Card is not bad it works fine. I wonder if the program that turns the phone into a card reader has something to do with it?
Dave
Happen to me few time. Just start messanger from startup menu and it will work again.
I have had a similar problem with Messaging. Usually it works fine, but sometimes nothing will open Messaging will not open with any method, from the Today Screen item (it highlights, but never opens), the Mail buttonhas no effect, and the Start menu item has no effect. I found that deleting the Inbox.mstxxxxxx folder from the storage card would allow it to open again. Also, the phone would not see the MiniSD card, and create a "Storage Card" folder then the real storage card would be called "Storage Card 2" and that would also cause Messanger problems. This has happened in the past on this phone as well, without any custom ROMs and with multiple MiniSD cards. I took out a reg hack to show the ext ROM in the file system and it seemed to help the problem.
Just FYI this is on an 8125 with a SanDisk 1gb MiniSD card and Shoguns current public ROM and the 2.47.11 radio.
I ended up doing the hard reset anyways, but its good to know there may be a fix for this. I did see the files but they would not open and said the program was missiing or something like that. Its all good now thouugh, but thanks for the info. Im sure itll happen again.
dave
I installed Garmin XT on my Kaiser to try it out, got it to work but did not like it, I removed it but now every time I soft reset or restart the phone it asks me if I want to install Garmin XT, I have removed everything I can think of from the phone memory and from the storage card, but it still asks me, there is nothing in the startup folder I can think of that is doing this, can anyone give me a clue to what I can do to stop this pop up ?
Thanks in Advance
sorry about the double post please remove this (Firefox Crashed or so I thought)
Wow, that's a pretty ****ty thing for garmin to implement. That would annoy the **** out of me, I think I would give them a call and let them know how I feel about that. Anyways, try searching the registry for garmin keys, see if you can find anything.
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I installed Garmin XT on my Kaiser to try it out, got it to work but did not like it, I removed it but now every time I soft reset or restart the phone it asks me if I want to install Garmin XT, I have removed everything I can think of from the phone memory and from the storage card, but it still asks me, there is nothing in the startup folder I can think of that is doing this, can anyone give me a clue to what I can do to stop this pop up ?
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After you install/uninstall Garmin Mobile XT, make sure you delete the 2577 folder. this folder contain the autorun.exe that will prompt you each time after soft reset or when you reinsert your SD card.
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After you install/uninstall Garmin Mobile XT, make sure you delete the 2577 folder. this folder contain the autorun.exe that will prompt you each time after soft reset or when you reinsert your SD card.
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Problem solved thank you my friend
Just a blip, I spoke with a Garmin PDA specialist at CES last week and they will be making a version of the program that will run on a Kaiser WITHOUT needing a memory card, like the other mapping progs, finally! He said fairly soon, next few weeks/months.
Not sure if I'm doing something wrong here but after the 6.1 ROM upgrade I installed Co-Pilot again, running the lot from the desktop Central programme (makiing a point of deleting anything 2577 or Co-Pilot related on the storage card). Only thing I changed this time is that I installed the programme on the device and the map on the card. I got messages saying installs were successful.
Now though, when I launch Co-Pilot I get now map, just a white screen where map detail should be. I'm wondering if it's something to do with configuration or whether the split install is something it can't handle. Must say I'm not too impressed with this software overall and I find the Central desktop application abysmal. I'll have another couple of attempts but if I cannot install it the way I WANT IT to install I think I'll consign it to the scrap heap and get a dedicated sat nav for nav purposes. Wasn't the main reason I got the TyTn, given the problems I'm glad!!!!! I would have thought it quite reasonable that someone installing maps would wish to do so on their card rather than the device (given the size) and also reasonable that for speed of access to the system they'd put the programme on the device.
None of this is helped by the user documentation which is also pretty dire, esp when it comes to trouble shooting!!!!
Well after wasting hours messing around with this I have finally got it working but I can only get it to work with the map loaded to the device along with the programme. Must say that if this is supoosed to lead the way in terms of PDA sat nav I dread to think what the rest are like!!!! Apart from the fact that it refuses to recognise the map if not loaded to the device (regardless of how complete the uninstall, deletion of folders and re-booting etc) I have also tried to upload the other voices etc and regardless of what I try the device will not recognise they are there.
For me a truly awful application and the desktop application is worse!! I constantly get the message saying "alk.copilot.updater has stopped working", even after upgrading Central to the lastest version (and even that was an exercise in scouring the internet and rummaging for information). I'm really glad that sat nav/GPS was not a primary motivator for buying the TyTn. Maybe others work better on it??
Once I return to the UK I shall buy a dedicated sat nav and rip this Co-Pilot garbage out of my PDA and consign it to where it belongs. There are sat navs and sat navs and for me Co-Pilot is one that I would not give the time of day to.
CoPilot
Hi
You seem a bit stressed over copilot.
I have this working very well with wm6.1 on the kaiser.
I do not know how you have installed it and how you got any maps on to device most maps are over 100meg.
Can I suggest you remove copilot and reinstall to card only using a card reader and not using device connected to pc.
Over all I have found copilot to better in most areas over tomtom except poi handling, certainly the on screen information is better and gps lock is faster.
The above comment apply to CoPilot 7 live.
Mike
I certainly bleedin have ;-)
Ended up with both installed to device (using Abu Dhabi map only, maybe it's smaller). I may try stripping out and putting both the app and the map on the card. Works OK now with both on device but once I get any other maps to put on (but not likely at mo) I will struggle with storage on the device. I would have thought the programme would/could go on device and map(s) on the card. Seems not.
Co-Pilot Central seems a SHED load more of a problem than it's worth.
Well, having tried and tried I'm about to give up the ghost with CoPilot.
Only thing I have NOT yet tried as has been suggested is installing CoPilot to my card using a reader. I assume that once you have Co-Pilot Central installed on a PC there is some option to select that allows you to do this??
Essentially I have stripped Co-Pilot out of the TyTn. Hard Reset and deleted anything Co-Pilot from the SD card. I even uninstalled the awful desktop Central, deleted all folders and cleared the PC Registry. Having re-installed Central I then hooked up the device and chose option to install Co-Pilot Live. I chose the Storage card as location. After a successful install message I downloaded the map via the website having started Co-Pilot on the device and follwed the instructions. I installed THAT to the card to. Net result, open Co-Pilot, get 'Enjoy your map' message and, hep presto blank map!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really is the most outstandingly crap software I have EVER come across. Not as if I'm trying some convoluted set-up or anything. Simply following the instructions and prompts. Time to scrap it I think!!!!!
Well. I give up. Unless I install BOTH on the device I CANNOT get the map/roads to show up in CoPilot.
Having mailed ALK customer support twice on this and got no reply (despite the 'We'll get back to you by end of next working day') I can only conclude the customer support is as poor as the website and the software. Time to put disc in bin!!!!
I have a log open at ALK support now in relation to this, having contacted them by another route. If I get a response that gets this to work I will post it here. Below is a fuller update of the processes I am going through to TRY and get this to work with BOTH installed on the Storage Card, just in case others come across this having searched re the same problem. I did LOADS of searches in all manner of engines and all manner of terms related to the problem but got no direct matches anywhere:
Systems information:
HTC branded TyTn II, Windows Mobile 6.1
SanDisk 8GB Micro SD card (not used in any other device)
CoPilot CD (free with TyTn II) - loads version 0.5.59.2 of CoPilot Central. After upgrade on device is complete version 7.0.2.258 of Live is installed
Windows Vista Business (SP1)
Procedure Followed (nothing else having worked!!!!):
1. Installed CoPilot Central to PC. Once loaded, open CoPilot Central (selecting upgrade later) under 'Plan Route' select Middle East map region (currently in UAE with work).
2. Engaged 'Flight' mode on phone to turn off potential interruption. Connect device to PC by USB. Installed CoPilot live when prompted to SD card.
3. Could not download maps at this time - kept getting device not recognised message.
4. Left device connected to PC. PC eventually indicated 'An update for CoPilot Live is available - do you want to update'. Selected "Yes".
5. Downloaded the update, it was updated to the device and it created a 2577 (auto run) folder on SD card.
6. Uninstalled current (OLD) Co-Pilot Live from device and delete ALL Co-Pilot related folders on card and device (root directory and Programs - if any).
7. Soft reset device.
8. Turn device back on. Took out and re-inserted SD card, prompted install of CoPilot Live.
9. Install CoPilot Live again to SD Card. This was a personal choice as I did not want the app or its maps on the device (too much space), esp as some maps are large.
10. Soft reset device.
11. Connect device to PC by USB to get internet connection. Followed on screen instructions (got several messages - "Invalid Device - Please refer to provider" at this stage but EVENTUALLY go site to allow me to download!!!). Saved download to 'My Documents' on device and checked 'Open file once downloaded'.
12. Followed install instructions and install map to SD Card also.
13. Soft reset device.
14 Open CoPilot Live on device. Hey Presto - NO MAP!!!! All I get is a blank screen with a couple of POIs indicating Mosques in god knows where!!!!!!!
Despite this massively convoluted process I STILL cannot get CoPilot to work and show its maps on a storage card installation from the computer based CD which came with the TyTn II. Later I uninstalled both from the SD card and re-installed both to the device and the map shows up????????????
Perhaps understandably I am about to give up and buy a dedicated Sat Nav!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HI, dear Empgamer,
Me too have same problems with the HTC TyTn II, windows 6.0 still because 6.1 has too many complaints. Therefore I did not instal. I got co-pilot DVD instanlled on PC. Got one Free city map as my choice but unfortunatley did not work. I have tried many times the same way as mentioned above on this forum wihtout any success. No map . Blank Screen although copilot seems working and displaying stupid options like I am going to fly to Mars.
Surprisingly no words from HTC nor from Copilot.
CoPilot
Hi
What version of Copilot are you trying to install,
If you have the dvd install using a card reader its faster and will not be interupted.
I have it working flawlessly om my kaiser with Duttys rom
Hi both
I am using the HTC stock 6.1 ROM as I am quite happy with that, it works fine on my device and I have the new video driver cab installed too.
Strangely I CAN get CoPilot to work fine if BOTH programme and map are installed on the device. Trying the below does NOT work:
1) Programme on device, map on SD card
2) Programme and map on SD card
I have an open question on ALK tech support site regarding this and will wait a response. I have to say I have neither the time or inclination to mess about with this any more having wasted HOURS installing, re-installing, soft and hard re-setting, installing and updating etc. All to no avail. Either I will find eventually how to get both working from an SD card or I will eventually uninstall CoPilot, bin it, and buy a stand-alone sat nav system.
I didn't really buy the device as a sat nav anyway so it's no big deal but it would be nice to be able to get it to work. I cannot see what is so complex or unorthodox about what I am trying to do. I do have a card reader but my CoPilot came on a CD and when CoPilot Central (abysmal software) installs I can see no option anywhere to get it to interface with a storage card reader either directly or by way of a wizard. See above re version numbers.