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I had BBC 4.0.0.67 working on my 8525, and a couple of days ago bought the HTC Tytn II (Kaiser). On initial startup, using the SIM from my 8525, the Tytn II set up my AT&T data connection. Phone calls and 3G internet surfing worked fine. The Tytn set my data connection to use isp.cingular and I added the wap.cingular connection. I use the wap.cingular connection.
I first tried Blackberry connect 4.0.0.90 which would not connect to the BB server even though I had a good 3G internet connection. I spent an hour on the phone with AT&T who finally said it was a Blackberry problem and they transferred me to Blackberry. I spent an hour on the phone with them, and they concluded it was AT&T. Blackberry support transferred me back to AT&T. The AT&T manager basically said: we don't support a non AT&T phone on Blackberry...and we don't support blackberry connect. I will point out everyone was very nice throughout this over 2 hour ordeal.
So I removed BBC .90, cleaned out all traces, and reloaded the 4(1).0.0.84 AT&T Tilt version from the HTC America site: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327695
and surprise, everything works perfectly on 3G and Edge. Blackberry BES for my work exchange email (synching email, calendar, contacts, and notes) and BIS for my personal email accounts. The Blackberry web browser also works fine.
At my firm I have the option to install BBC or Good. I have Good running but I'm wondering about BBC. Does it work like Good in that there is a separate application running that you need to open for mail/calendar/contacts, and it's not integrated into the native apps? Or is it like using a blackberry where everything is integrated. Thanks!
It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
do you have an AT&T blackberry data plan?
Yes. blackberry unlimited
Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
caleymac said:
It's fully integrated into the native apps. BBC creates WM6 mail accounts for my exchange email and personal email accounts, the contacts are in the WM6 standard contacts database, and the appointments are in the standard calendar. All of these (except personal email) are bi-directionally syncronized with my exchange server.
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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I read this in an article which is what prompted me to ask. What the article is describing sounds like Good, where it's a separate application.... "The new BlackBerry application suite will complement existing Windows Mobile 6 functionality and will appear as an icon on the screen, in the same manner as other third-party applications. Clicking the icon will prompt a suite of BlackBerry applications, including push e-mail functionality, calendar, address book and others, to load. "
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My guess is the author was not familiar with the WM6 environment. There is a BB icon in settings and on the bottom of the today screen, but it brings up the bbc configuraton utility. The apps are fully integrated in the native wm6 apps.
michalopoulosgk said:
Can one run both the Outlook and the Blackberry connect in the same device (Kaiser) at the same time?
Also, I attempted to install BB connect and I was prompted to first disable my password. I could not find a way to do that without first eliminating the Outlook connection to the Exchange server. Is there another way?
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If you use BBC to synch contacts, appointments, notes, and tasks, you cannot also synch them via activesynch/WMDC or exchange sync. It's one method or the other. I have not set up a POP account on my Tytn because I have all my personal POP email go through the Blackberry Internet Service (BIS).
I'm not sure if you can exchange sync email and use BBC for email too.
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Just one more question - for the corporate email, can you add an attachment to an email that is stored on the mobile unit?
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Yes, but it seems like you are limited to 32K or smaller.
So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
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So, here's the deal. I also got this to work on my second day of having my TyTN II. I called AT&T and tricked them into thinking I had purchased an unlocked BB from a dealer and they switched me over to the BB Unlimited plan so I could use BES to connect to my corp email. I installed the PC software, and the handheld SW. And got everything working. It started downloading all my emails, inbox and sent. I chose not to sync my calendar until I confirmed it worked.
BUT...
Something very strange happened. Basically, it went thru my calendar, saw all my meetings that were on my calendar for the last week and in the future and started to RESEND ALL THE MEETING INVITES AS IF THEY WERE FROM ME.
So, if I had a meeting that I was invited to next week, along with 3 others. It sent out a meeting invitation through my email to the other 3 participants (excluding the original meeting organizer) and sent it as if I was the meeting organizer. So I ended up with duplicate meetings on my calendar, and it duplicated everyone else's calendar. So people had 2 meeting ivntes, one from me, and one from the original organizer.
Needless to say, this was a big problem. Fortunately, i cuaght it before it went thru my entire calendar, but ti still managed to send out about 40 meetings invites, some to large groups of people!
I immediately removed the BBC software and switched my plan back.
I don't know why it happened. I can't explain it. Has anyone else who gets the new Kaiser-compatible BBC installed had this issue? Or did it work as expected?
I would prefer to get BBC working, but I can't risk having that happen again!
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That is very strange. BBC works great on mine and setup without issue.
GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
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GREAT news!!! since AT&T has not oficially released the "tilt" I'm assuming that you're using and HTC branded Kaiser, are you using the original ROM or did you Flash witht he AT&T ROM?
I'm eagerly awaiting for the delivery of my Kaiser
Thanks
Vinny
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I am using the original rom that came on the device. It took less than 5 minutes to set up.
Ditto. OEM ROM.
Has anyone used this on Tmobile? I know BB connect works on the Dash, but not on the Wing and I would hate to drop that much money to find out that it doesn't work with Tmobile.
Thanks for responding, I hope this holds true with other carrier than AT&T, I expect to have my kaiser within the next week or so, I'm in Mexico and my carrier is Telcel, I will report back as soon as I try this.
Cheers
Vinny
That's great that it was so easy to set up and use.
One question though....I have been using BbConnect on my 8525 for a while now, and always have difficulty accessing things such as Cellular Video or XM Radio or MobiTV through the Bb unlimited data plan. Usually aI have to disconnect the BB Connect service to access those.
Do you know if these services/apps work with the unlocked Tytn II and Blackberry Connect?
Thanks!
I have gotten BBC to work and I am generally pleased with it except the 32k limit sucks.
I have a couple questions that I'm wondering if anyone else has figured out.
First, my work email shows up in a folder called "Desktop" which is different that the general "Outlook Email" folder. Why is there a difference?
Also, when sending meeting invitations, I don't have the option to use the work (i.e., "Desktop") account, only the Outlook Email account which is not connected. Any ideas how to remedy this?
Thanks!
Has anyone spent any time comparing these two apps?
I really like Moxier. Even though it doesn't give you direct view access to your contacts or calendar, it does sync them and allow you to access your contacts from within an email and it gives you calendar alerts in your notification bar.
Touchdown has great support. It allows direct view of contacts and calendar.
Both support activesync push.
Right now, I'm trying to determine which one I'll be paying for.
The battery life seems to be a little bit better with Touchdown, but I can't say for certain.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Been usin' TD for about 5 months now, since the early betas, and it never ceases to impress me.
Yeah, I've been using TD off and on for the last few weeks.
I decided to test Moxier the other day when they sent me an email about the limited release.
I like Moxier in a lot of ways but I'm convinced it's not as refined as TD and it tears my battery down where TD doesn't appear to affect it at all.
I think I will be sticking with TD.
I do wish that handled folders as well as Moxier but all in all, I think TD is a better product.
Thanks for the input.
Just got notified of TD 3.0 today. Seems cool so far. Not sure what's change exactly. Something about accelerated push.
Touchdown is way better than moxier. Te mere fact that you can select multiple emails for deletion is worth it.
I love the synching of everyhtign else as well.
Calender, contacs.
Yes, touchdown kicks ass on Moxier.
Moxier has the ability to do what you are asking. Multiple selects to move, archive, delete etc.
I am using Moxier Pre Release because TD won't handle my mailbox (not sure why).
It does do a number on the battery and I would not purchase it until that gets fixed. It also seems to be turning push on all the time. Service keeps reloading itself and that may be linked to the battery issue. Moxier team has some work to do, definitely. But don't count them out just yet, there's some things that they are definite doing right.
Now we have another option ROADSYNC from DATAVIZ. They released a beta version for now.
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Now we have another option ROADSYNC from DATAVIZ. They released a beta version for now.
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I tried it. It won't let me trust my self-signed cert so I can't use it yet.
I think TD is still the best bet. I just wish it would let me download the current content of select folders instead of only what is new. That's the one thing Moxier does that nothing else so far can do.
Have you guys tried Haykuro's H build, it has an Inbuid exchange client developed by HTS itself. it is by far the best one. almost as feature rich as any WinMo phone. You can even send and accept calender invitations. plus the contacts sync with phone contacts and it will show both GMail contacts and Exchange contacts. it is fast, feature rich, very low battery consumption. I am sure when the release build comes out All Moxier's and touchdown's will be out of business. cauz HTC one is free & some one will port it from Sapphire's build to released G1 cupcake build.
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Have you guys tried Haykuro's H build, it has an Inbuid exchange client developed by HTS itself. it is by far the best one. almost as feature rich as any WinMo phone. You can even send and accept calender invitations. plus the contacts sync with phone contacts and it will show both GMail contacts and Exchange contacts. it is fast, feature rich, very low battery consumption. I am sure when the release build comes out All Moxier's and touchdown's will be out of business. cauz HTC one is free & some one will port it from Sapphire's build to released G1 cupcake build.
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i prefer to have a fullty functional, stable working phone with myfaves.
I mostly agree with Henchman.
I don't mind being on the bleeding edge to some extent, but with certain apps still not working with the Haykuro builds and htc exchange apparently fubar'ing calander entries, I'm inclined to wait just a little bit longer.
I am tempted every day though. I may bite the bullet and do it anyway, I just haven't reached that point yet.
Backup your phone to NAND and test it out. Worst case, you re-flash with your previous build. I'm going to try it this weekend.
I'm horny for native exchange support, I really am.
Native exchange plus native USB or WiFi tethering makes me want to jizz my shorts. Not sure when or if the latter will arrive, but I will keep hope alive.
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Backup your phone to NAND and test it out. Worst case, you re-flash with your previous build. I'm going to try it this weekend.
I'm horny for native exchange support, I really am.
Native exchange plus native USB or WiFi tethering makes me want to jizz my shorts. Not sure when or if the latter will arrive, but I will keep hope alive.
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Well, I went ahead and flashed theDude's version even without exchange support. I just hope that it gets added soon. Right now, this is just a solid build and I'll live without exchange for a while longer if I have to.
i find myself unwilling to pay for an app that will become part of the OS soon, especially at the cost for touchdown and moxier.
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i find myself unwilling to pay for an app that will become part of the OS soon, especially at the cost for touchdown and moxier.
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Don't hold your breath.
I flashed the Haykuro update, and yes, it does exchange.
But the email client is still as lame as ever.
No multiple email selects to delete multiple emails.
Is there a way to extract that exchange program from Haykuros version so that we can use it on other 1.5 versions?
Been using MailShadow since the beginning.
Prefer it over TouchDown as it syncs all your exchange data with Gmail (contacts/calendar/email) so you get to use the built in Google apps. It's also better since it makes your ENTIRE exchange mailbox available via the gmail app.... all your folders (labels), etc. I do have TouchDown as a backup though just in case.
Only downside is that it needs to run on a desktop computer at all times to sync- doesn't matter to me though as my computer is always on.
Haykuro new ADP1.5Hr4
Upcoming features in ADP1.5Hr4:
+ Newer SuperUser app
+ HTC E-Mail client. (Exchange support should work.. more info on this feature as i progress)
+ Based on newer firmware.
Had both.
Moxier has too many bugs. Contacts with "work"-numbers not getting synced. Force closes if you click on the header of a mail.
No notification if a new mail is in a folder (have set up some rules on the server to see important mails directly).
Notification itself is crap. If you open Moxier directly, not through the statusbar, the icon will never disappear.
TD is working way better..
Support of Moxier is worst. Takes weeks to get any information..
TouchDown gave me a free license since I am a T-Mo employee so I use TouchDown....and I really like it.
Is anyone else running this configuration?
Having come from a Nokia/Symbian background, I was disappointed to say the least with the standard Android/Google calendar inteface. Navigating around it from day to month to week is not intuitive, and the month view is next to useless unless all you want to know is "have I got something happening that day - oh yes, but I can't see what it is unless I actually click on the date".
I used to use Handy Calendar on Symbian, which I loved but they don't make an Android version for my Dream.
Anyway, I've recently downloaded Touchdown 30 day trial, and I'm using Nuevasync to act as an Exchange proxy between Touchdown and my GMail.
The free Nuevasync account allows syncing of calendar and contacts, but email & tasks are disabled unless I upgrade to the premium account for $25.
I just want to know if email and tasks will also work flawlessly with this setup?
It may be a moot point, since the Touchdown full app will also cost $19.99. so the whole set-up is a bit costly. Also I'm moving to a different device (HTC Desire) soon, so perhaps the HTC calendar will satisfy me - I hope so.
But in the meantime I'm really beginning to like Touchdown's calendar, and may stump up the $19.99 if I can't find anything as good.
I have a few questions about syncing involving a laptop running Windows 7 w/ Outlook 2010, and a Lumia 810 running Windows Phone 8.
I sincerely apologize for the wall of text, but he's running out of patience, and I'm running out of options, and I desperately need some help here.
My grandfather has been chomping at the bit to upgrade to a Windows Phone, even though I told him repeatedly that it will be difficult and I can't guarantee that he will be satisfied. Here's why:
He has over 1000 contacts, and Hotmail maxes out at 1000.
He has more than 1024 characters total in some contacts, Hotmail supports only 1024 characters total throughout the entire contact card.
He will not be able to sync via USB, so it requires a cloud based service of some sort to sync, none that support the amount of data he has.
I have set him up with a program called Akruto Sync, which emulates an exchange server hosting his data, so that he can connect over Wi-Fi with the phone and sync. This is a fully working program. However, whenever the computer's IP rotates (i.e. he moves from work to home) he has to reconfigure the program to run off the new IP. He understands this concept, but the phone is unable to locate the computer at home (using 192.168.2.3), while at work (192.168.1.112), everything works wonderfully.
Another issue is that the Gmail account we use for his incoming email gives strange errors at times. It's like if he's not connected to Wi-Fi, but 4G is working, Gmail is not connecting.
He was previously using a Blackberry Bold 9780, then a Storm2, and one of his main complaints was that he couldn't zoom in on attachments reliably without becoming unreadable. He also wanted the ability to edit items on his device.
So the question is this:
Does anyone know of a (mostly) hassle-free sync solution, that will cover his contacts (with all data), calendar, tasks, and notes, and be less of a PITA than Akruto?
I understand that USB is not an option to sync, as Microsoft (stupidly) denied that functionality in order to force usage of their Cloud services.
My situation is not the same but has similarities. I need to sync Outlook 2010 and One Notes 2010 to my Samsung ATIV S but cannot find anything working except the cloud, which I cannot use. What is the best way, USB, Wifi or just copy and past? Please help me our..
Get an exchange mailbox and do it properly? I rent one for about 6 ukp a month.
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Get an exchange mailbox and do it properly? I rent one for about 6 ukp a month.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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Just get an Office 365 subscription-- it's $4/month/user.
On my old nexus S I am able to setup up multiple exchange accounts native.
I do an internship in 2 company 2 days in a week and also work in another company 3days in a week and I'm also planning to get office 365 for business for my private company (might sound complicated but it's workable). Doing the maths I need to be able to setup 3 exchange accounts wich works perfectly on my old nexus. (in fact need to set up 4 but I can live without the 4th one).
The important part is mail for 3 of them and callendar for 2 accounts (and if possible see google callendar + exchange callendars in 1 view based on colors) all my contact are on gmail since they overlap and gmail makes it easy.
I was setting up my phone on the htc website "https://start.htcsense.com" but at the end when I reached setting up accounts I'm only able to setup 1 exchange account is this on the device the same or not. Already preordered my htc one so would love to know if I have to cancel my order or not before it arives
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On my old nexus S I am able to setup up multiple exchange accounts native.
I do an internship in 2 company 2 days in a week and also work in another company 3days in a week and I'm also planning to get office 365 for business for my private company (might sound complicated but it's workable). Doing the maths I need to be able to setup 3 exchange accounts wich works perfectly on my old nexus. (in fact need to set up 4 but I can live without the 4th one).
The important part is mail for 3 of them and callendar for 2 accounts (and if possible see google callendar + exchange callendars in 1 view based on colors) all my contact are on gmail since they overlap and gmail makes it easy.
I was setting up my phone on the htc website "https://start.htcsense.com" but at the end when I reached setting up accounts I'm only able to setup 1 exchange account is this on the device the same or not. Already preordered my htc one so would love to know if I have to cancel my order or not before it arives
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It is possible to set up multiple exchange accounts using the HTC email application on the HTC one.
The application in itself is graphically beautiful and a pleasure to use.....however it is functionally lacklustre. Managing folders is a nightmare, the colour of each account cannot be edited etc etc
Do yourself a favour, buy Enhnanced Email from the market and use that.
I also use a pay application for calendar (Business calendar).
Alternatively...wait until an AOSP rom is released...and you will have the same identical software experience you had with the nexus device.
thx for answer if I atleast can set up multiple accounts then thats good
I will look into those aps once I have my one
suboxide said:
thx for answer if I atleast can set up multiple accounts then thats good
I will look into those aps once I have my one
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It is a shame that HTC did not refine their email app. Because it looks fantastic and is really smooth.
BUT
You cannot hide/unhide folders. Visualising emails is a pain as it defaults back to the "all messages" option...and thus if you have multiple accounts....and receive over 100 emails a day...it looks like a mess.
Enhanced email does not look pretty and the Dev has not been too active as of late...but it is functionally faultless in handling multiple accounts and calendars.
Touchdown from nirodesk would be perfect...except...they do not support syncing multiple account simultaneously.
K9 no native exchange support (WebDav does not work on Exchange 2010 servers)
Moxier Email has native exchange support but, imho, is just an inferior version of Enhanced email.
I will certainly look into enhanched email
I liked my old setup with native exchange mail client on my nexus since it looked like the gmail client (with much less features but still worked) and it worked perfectly with google calendar
but I'm willing to give sense a try even if I have to buy some new apps