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Has anyone spent any time comparing these two apps?
I really like Moxier. Even though it doesn't give you direct view access to your contacts or calendar, it does sync them and allow you to access your contacts from within an email and it gives you calendar alerts in your notification bar.
Touchdown has great support. It allows direct view of contacts and calendar.
Both support activesync push.
Right now, I'm trying to determine which one I'll be paying for.
The battery life seems to be a little bit better with Touchdown, but I can't say for certain.
Anyone have any thoughts?
Been usin' TD for about 5 months now, since the early betas, and it never ceases to impress me.
Yeah, I've been using TD off and on for the last few weeks.
I decided to test Moxier the other day when they sent me an email about the limited release.
I like Moxier in a lot of ways but I'm convinced it's not as refined as TD and it tears my battery down where TD doesn't appear to affect it at all.
I think I will be sticking with TD.
I do wish that handled folders as well as Moxier but all in all, I think TD is a better product.
Thanks for the input.
Just got notified of TD 3.0 today. Seems cool so far. Not sure what's change exactly. Something about accelerated push.
Touchdown is way better than moxier. Te mere fact that you can select multiple emails for deletion is worth it.
I love the synching of everyhtign else as well.
Calender, contacs.
Yes, touchdown kicks ass on Moxier.
Moxier has the ability to do what you are asking. Multiple selects to move, archive, delete etc.
I am using Moxier Pre Release because TD won't handle my mailbox (not sure why).
It does do a number on the battery and I would not purchase it until that gets fixed. It also seems to be turning push on all the time. Service keeps reloading itself and that may be linked to the battery issue. Moxier team has some work to do, definitely. But don't count them out just yet, there's some things that they are definite doing right.
Now we have another option ROADSYNC from DATAVIZ. They released a beta version for now.
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Now we have another option ROADSYNC from DATAVIZ. They released a beta version for now.
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I tried it. It won't let me trust my self-signed cert so I can't use it yet.
I think TD is still the best bet. I just wish it would let me download the current content of select folders instead of only what is new. That's the one thing Moxier does that nothing else so far can do.
Have you guys tried Haykuro's H build, it has an Inbuid exchange client developed by HTS itself. it is by far the best one. almost as feature rich as any WinMo phone. You can even send and accept calender invitations. plus the contacts sync with phone contacts and it will show both GMail contacts and Exchange contacts. it is fast, feature rich, very low battery consumption. I am sure when the release build comes out All Moxier's and touchdown's will be out of business. cauz HTC one is free & some one will port it from Sapphire's build to released G1 cupcake build.
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Have you guys tried Haykuro's H build, it has an Inbuid exchange client developed by HTS itself. it is by far the best one. almost as feature rich as any WinMo phone. You can even send and accept calender invitations. plus the contacts sync with phone contacts and it will show both GMail contacts and Exchange contacts. it is fast, feature rich, very low battery consumption. I am sure when the release build comes out All Moxier's and touchdown's will be out of business. cauz HTC one is free & some one will port it from Sapphire's build to released G1 cupcake build.
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i prefer to have a fullty functional, stable working phone with myfaves.
I mostly agree with Henchman.
I don't mind being on the bleeding edge to some extent, but with certain apps still not working with the Haykuro builds and htc exchange apparently fubar'ing calander entries, I'm inclined to wait just a little bit longer.
I am tempted every day though. I may bite the bullet and do it anyway, I just haven't reached that point yet.
Backup your phone to NAND and test it out. Worst case, you re-flash with your previous build. I'm going to try it this weekend.
I'm horny for native exchange support, I really am.
Native exchange plus native USB or WiFi tethering makes me want to jizz my shorts. Not sure when or if the latter will arrive, but I will keep hope alive.
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Backup your phone to NAND and test it out. Worst case, you re-flash with your previous build. I'm going to try it this weekend.
I'm horny for native exchange support, I really am.
Native exchange plus native USB or WiFi tethering makes me want to jizz my shorts. Not sure when or if the latter will arrive, but I will keep hope alive.
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Well, I went ahead and flashed theDude's version even without exchange support. I just hope that it gets added soon. Right now, this is just a solid build and I'll live without exchange for a while longer if I have to.
i find myself unwilling to pay for an app that will become part of the OS soon, especially at the cost for touchdown and moxier.
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i find myself unwilling to pay for an app that will become part of the OS soon, especially at the cost for touchdown and moxier.
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Don't hold your breath.
I flashed the Haykuro update, and yes, it does exchange.
But the email client is still as lame as ever.
No multiple email selects to delete multiple emails.
Is there a way to extract that exchange program from Haykuros version so that we can use it on other 1.5 versions?
Been using MailShadow since the beginning.
Prefer it over TouchDown as it syncs all your exchange data with Gmail (contacts/calendar/email) so you get to use the built in Google apps. It's also better since it makes your ENTIRE exchange mailbox available via the gmail app.... all your folders (labels), etc. I do have TouchDown as a backup though just in case.
Only downside is that it needs to run on a desktop computer at all times to sync- doesn't matter to me though as my computer is always on.
Haykuro new ADP1.5Hr4
Upcoming features in ADP1.5Hr4:
+ Newer SuperUser app
+ HTC E-Mail client. (Exchange support should work.. more info on this feature as i progress)
+ Based on newer firmware.
Had both.
Moxier has too many bugs. Contacts with "work"-numbers not getting synced. Force closes if you click on the header of a mail.
No notification if a new mail is in a folder (have set up some rules on the server to see important mails directly).
Notification itself is crap. If you open Moxier directly, not through the statusbar, the icon will never disappear.
TD is working way better..
Support of Moxier is worst. Takes weeks to get any information..
TouchDown gave me a free license since I am a T-Mo employee so I use TouchDown....and I really like it.
Hi,
I am thinking of creating an Android Exchange client as I am yet to find a 100% suitable one for my G1.
I currently use TouchDown which works acceptably, but I dont think the interface is particularly in keeping with the standard Android theme. It also seems to duplicate many aspects of the G1 features (calander etc) - why not integrate?
So I was wondering if anyone had some experience of programming (I do, before someone asks) in particular with Exchange history if possible, as I could do with some help and I am all for helping the Android community.
I haven't decided yet if the app will be FOSS or closed source, but if I were to charge it would be around the 1GBP mark - I'm not trying to pay the mortgage off, but something to reimburse the time spent is always nice. Maybe a lite version for free etc.
PM me if you are interested in helping out, I will probably setup a Google Code project or something.
Rich
I am not a programmer (sorry), but I just want to say there is definitely a market for good Exchange apps. The company I work for switched to G1s recently and we bought a few Touchdown licenses just for ActiveSync. I personally hate the TouchDown interface (sorry devs, you're nice and all but I am a fan of design as well as function!). If something was created that could do TouchDown's job (or better) and fit in with Android better, you'd have some people interested for sure.
rich,
I may be interested in working on this. I just got my ADP1, and have barely started playing with it. I'm still running touchdown under the free trial period.
Exchange sync is built into Android 2.0. I haven't played with a droid, so I don't know if it's implemented more like you're talking about or not, but that's certainly worth looking into before developing from scratch.
I know that the 2.0 build should support it, however most Exchange interfaces dont work on our setup
We use a different port for the SSL connection and this seems to break most Exchange implementations (excluding TouchDown). Is the Exchange support in the AOSP Email app?? Or is it like the HTC version?
I would find this very useful. As already said we have many G1 and Magic out there using Work Email and Touchdown....
My problem with a couple of the exchange syncs is they don't include Calendars and Contacts. What good is That? When they say Work Email they mean just that, email.
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Hi,
I am thinking of creating an Android Exchange client as I am yet to find a 100% suitable one for my G1.
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Hope you have the cash to buy an Activesync Exchange license. That is unless you're planning on using OWA , in which case I doubt folks would pay for an Exchange client without push.
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I know that the 2.0 build should support it, however most Exchange interfaces dont work on our setup
We use a different port for the SSL connection and this seems to break most Exchange implementations (excluding TouchDown). Is the Exchange support in the AOSP Email app?? Or is it like the HTC version?
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I have tried the xROM based on the 2.0 AOSP and the mail client supports MS Exchange contacts and calender included.
I would certainly be very interested, especially if you managed to support exchange categories. Touchdown on my HTC Hero (v1.5) certainly doesnt, and neither does the built in HTC activesync program.
Ideally I want to have a month view calendar with the different calendar events shown on a daily timeline with a colour I can choose for each calendar category.
As far as I can find, I dont think that any of the current android/exchange syncing options even support or mention exchange categories!!!
The 2.0 email app is fully configurable to support exchange, you can change ports and ssl settings. Works perfectly.
There are a few issues that I have with the exchange solutions for Android.
1. Touchdown works, but I hate that it does not integrate into the existing framework. I know it can be done, look at SenseUI from HTC. Almost perfect! Just runs like crap on MyTouch.
2. Lack of integration (touched on point 1, but needed to be said).
3. Lack of full features. Seriously, WHY is there NO WAY to tell it what times to sync and what times not too. I don't need to get EVERY email that is sent between 10pm and 5am and then have my phone sqwaking all night. This bugs me about GMail data sync, I have to MANUALLY shut it off... ugh... Touchdown does this, SenseUI does not...
Anyway, a working, full featured integrated application would be worth paying for. Talk about enterprise licensing... People would be all over that... trust me...
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is there a way to Sync Outlook (Contacts, events, calender) but without the need of Sync first to Google ?
thanks
at the moment no!
maybe on rooted phones with a app..
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is there a way to Sync Outlook (Contacts, events, calender) but without the need of Sync first to Google ?
thanks
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That depends on if you have use exchange server or if your outlook is used stand alone.
Stand alone, you sync to Gmail from the PC, and your phone should automatically sync to Gmail. Not everything syncs, that way either.
If you can connect to an exchange server, then check out Touchdown. It's a mini suite that has a nice mail program, calendar, contacts & tasts than all work with activesync, and the mail program is a huge step forward from the one supplied by default. It's $20.00 to register after a 30 day trial, but that's beats monthly blackberry charges for BES services all day long. If this is for an activesync capable setup, check it out.
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at the moment no!
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You don't need a rooted phone to use activesync and install Touchdown.
Based on what I read on the touchdown site it will not sync with desktop outlook? I couldnt see where they came out and said it but since its not mentioned Im guessing its out. Kind of a weird deal but I need to snyc tethered directly to outlook (no exchange) sans cloud as a work requirement. I saw an application called mylink that purportes to do this but there is little feedback and what there is is contradictory.
What options I know of...
I am also searching for something to link with the stand alone version of Outlook.
Here are the two best options I have found, and neither are great:
www_markspace_com/products/android/missing-sync-android.html
www_companionlink_com/androidusb/ol-android-usb.html
Right now it is sort of a deal breaker that I can't sync fully with Outlook.
P.S. I had to alter the URL's because it won't let me post them as I am a new user.
Thanks for the answers...
looks like missing-sync-android.html and Outlook to Android USB sync will do the job, anybody tried it?
40 bucks? Sheesh, thats a lotta ching for a sync applications. I may try that waveguide mylink. It was 9.99 lbs, about a third of the price.
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40 bucks? Sheesh, thats a lotta ching for a sync applications. I may try that waveguide mylink. It was 9.99 lbs, about a third of the price.
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waveguide mylink?
MyLink http://www.wavestore.co.uk/index.php/products/mylink-desktop.html
None of these apps have great ratings and this one seems to have little activity so far but such as it is here is a cut and paste....
MyLink Desktop enables the following features:
Wireless OTA Push Mail Synchronization
Emails:
• Sending, receiving, replying and forwarding of emails
• Organization of emails in folders
• Sorting emails by date, size and sender
• Receiving attachments
• Creating email signature
Calendar:
• Adding, editing and deleting of calendar entries
• Sending, accepting and declining meeting invitations
• Sorting by date
Contacts:
• Calling contacts directly
• Adding, editing and deleting of contacts
• Copying contacts to address book on the phone
• Sorting by name or category
Tasks:
• Adding, editing and deleting of tasks
• Sorting by date
Notes:
• Reading and writing of notes
• Sorting by date
Synchronization without the need of a server
POP3 Email supported
No ActiveSync needed
Point-to-Point synchronization without going through Google
MyLink Desktop supports
Mail Clients: Outlook 2003/2007, Lotus Notes 6.xx, 7.xx, 8.xx
Servers: Exchange 2003/2007/2010, Lotus Domino 6.xx, 7.xx, 8.xx and Lotus Live
Operating Systems: Windows XP, XP Professional, Vista, Windows 7, 32 bit and 64 bit
Android phones running on firmware 1.1, 1.5, 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1
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MyLink http://www.wavestore.co.uk/index.php/products/mylink-desktop.html
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it's looking good, with less price, thanks!
I use an app called syncmycal been using it for a couple of years. Been very reliable.
There is a basic free one to make sure you are happy and then it is time to hand over cash.
I use it for:
Personal outlook to personal google calendar SYNC
Work outlook calendar (exchange) to work google calendar SYNC
Work outlook contacts to google contacts EXPORT ONLY
Personal outlook contacts to google contacts SYNC
The export only for work contacts stops my personal stuff ending up on work servers (paranoid about that).
I guess being on Google servers is ok
Zuber
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Sorry, in bed and half asleep. Missed the without Google bit...
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Same here, I have just cancelled my order with Amazon for the Nexus One when I found out today that it does not have the inccluded software to sync my standalone version of outlook with the phone. Not everyone who buys Android will want to use gmail. I , for one don't. Just give me a great phone and allow it to sync with my current set up please
I really liked the form factor, the 3.7" screen (IMHO just the right size) and AMOLEd as well with 1GHz processor. Hope HTC brings out Win Phone 7 with the exact same hardware!!
It's true that there isn't a built-in app to sync Outlook that comes with the Nexus One. However, I've been using DejaOffice to sync my contacts and calendar to Outlook without using the Google "cloud". I am also using Splash ID to sync sensitive encrypted data between my Nexus and my laptop. There is a standalone app for the laptop which makes data entry much easier.
Thanks for that . I did have a look but I still feel Google should have supplied their own software to allow for the syncing of data between outlook and their phone. I prefer not to use a third party on the phone to give me contacts and calendar info; looks like the contacts magagement that comes in the phone is not used. I guess this is because it is so tightly linked to gmail. I will continue with my trusty Blackstone for now with latest NRG updates and wait for Windows Phone 7 which will hopefully come out with a 3.7/8" AMOLED screen and other goodies. Pity though I'm sure google could sell a lot more phones had they made this easier for consumers.
I made the move from my loved but aging HTC Fuze to the Samsung Captivate...I was waiting on Windows Phone 7 but the wait was killing me.
Anyway, I wanted to see what was generally considered the best way to sync Outlook's contacts, calendars, tasks and notes.
I downloaded DejaOffice along with the Compainion. The Companion piece expires after 14 days, so was wondering if there was anything else out there.
So far, I like this set up...it isn't bad...
Thanks,
Brian
I like Touchdown by Nitrodesk. It isn't perfect, but it's dependable. It has a 30 free trial with all functions available.
HTH
Edit: Should mention this syncs with an Exchange server. I don't know if it syncs with Outlook directly.
https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gappssync
After my fair share of searching and trying this and that I settled on gSyncit. Works good so far. Yes, it goes through Google. It gets the tasks right and handles contact pictures.
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https://tools.google.com/dlpage/gappssync
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Does the Google Apps Synch for MS Outlook only work if your business switches totally to Google Apps? I need to keep my info on my company's Exchange server and sync it up with the phone, not move or transition to another server or anything like that.
Can this do simple sync contacts, calendar, and notes?
I set up the outlook web mail here at work (RPC over HTTP) and used the e-mail client to just hook up through that. Works fine for me but I may be missing some functionality you are looking for.
Running fresh install 2.2 on captivate - I've spent the last several hours trying to find a way to sync the captivate with outlook... and nothing is coming up as a reliable & cheap way. I would have never thought that a modern(ish) phone would have issues syncing with outlook. Never had a problem from the old 8125 up to iphone 3gs... but thought I would check with y'all to see if anything less than $50 has come up that would do the trick. I've tried Kies/MyPhoneExplorer(didn't see outlook calendar data except holidays and recurring events). I don't want to mess with google calendars and I live by the calendars for scheduling business! Any recent developments I should look in to?
Android and Outlook have generally never been close friends. There are a few paid apps you can find that do a very good job of keeping your information in sync.
If your business uses exchange you can set up your exchange account in the e-mail app on your phone and it will allow you to sync you mail, calendar and contacts.
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Android and Outlook have generally never been close friends. There are a few paid apps you can find that do a very good job of keeping your information in sync.
If your business uses exchange you can set up your exchange account in the e-mail app on your phone and it will allow you to sync you mail, calendar and contacts.
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Unfortunately my work is my business of me, myself, and I - so I haven't popped for an exchange server, but the frustration is almost close enough to just look into getting one done - and I've had a hard time finding an ap that syncs outlook and respective contact fields properly with the phone. I understand it's a google vs. MS deal and so they don't want to make it an easy one.... but it's a stupid idea since it will just push people to use iPhone, IMO. For now, I've relented to having to clumsily use google sync and the google calendar program to sync between to two. I just hate having middlemen to have to do it.
I use Kies 1.5.3.10093_80. I hear the newer versions are blocked from working with the captivate, but the older version works find for syncing w/outlook on my home system.
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Running fresh install 2.2 on captivate - I've spent the last several hours trying to find a way to sync the captivate with outlook... and nothing is coming up as a reliable & cheap way. I would have never thought that a modern(ish) phone would have issues syncing with outlook. Never had a problem from the old 8125 up to iphone 3gs... but thought I would check with y'all to see if anything less than $50 has come up that would do the trick. I've tried Kies/MyPhoneExplorer(didn't see outlook calendar data except holidays and recurring events). I don't want to mess with google calendars and I live by the calendars for scheduling business! Any recent developments I should look in to?
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I use Google Calendar Sync and GO Contact Sync Mod. My ISP uses Google Apps for email etc... They were both free and work well.
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I use Kies 1.5.3.10093_80. I hear the newer versions are blocked from working with the captivate, but the older version works find for syncing w/outlook on my home system.
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Any leads on where to find the old version? I can't find it on Dr. Google...
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I use Google Calendar Sync and GO Contact Sync Mod. My ISP uses Google Apps for email etc... They were both free and work well.
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I use the same apps, to keep contacts and calendar sync. For the E-Mail I just configure in Outlook the Gmail account as IMAP. The only drawback is with the custome field in google that Outlook can't handle.