You tube videos of driver problem - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Lets get a list of all the videos available that show the driver issue so we can send them to ATT. I emailed an ATT contact and he forwarded it to his boss and HTC. He said to keep the videos coming. So lets round up all the videos in this thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeb8-m5opDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHG377wkQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qbaDLzOU_Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeb8-m5opDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qbaDLzOU_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHG377wkQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8uq4FtduY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjS9zz2bww

Damn this makes me depressed.

Thanks, keep em coming the more the better.
What software can you use to make a video straight from the phone?

If folk want to make a strong case, then you need to be sure you are making a clear and proven case or it will not carry any weight at all.
Some of the youtube videos above ar nothing to do with the video drivers. Just as an example, the slow scrolling in PIE (the cause of which is known and an easy fix available) is not a video driver issue.
I play videos in AVI and MPEG format without freezing and jumping (and without special encoding). So you need to specify exactly what videos cause problems. We are not given details of what setup the videos shown are using. I can easily make video stutter like that on my PC with certain settings.
I am not saying there is no room for improvement and so don't bother. What I am saying is that the case to HTC will be ruined if it is mixed in with other totally unrelated issues, nothing to do with video drivers and a poor data on the video setup. It is easy for the likes of AT&T to say yeah give us your videos and we'll pass them to HTC. That's just cloud cukoo land if you think HTC will be influenced by stuttery videos on youtube.
I am becoming disappointed by the quality of the case that is being made to HTC on this issue. We will get nowhere unless we show a professional approach here with precise, accurate detail on video formats/resolutions frame rates etc etc that are causing a problem. It certainly is not all formats and for most you can adjust the settings in a good player to work fine. We should also not confuse problems with Windows Mobile, Specific MS programmes and driver issues. PIE scrolling is a specific programme issue (in the latest version only). Videos of a game going slowly prove zilch because we have no background info. on the setup other running applications etc.
Our case should be narrowly and precisely focused to make any impact. A host of random issues with no supporting evidence is doomed to fail. To give an example - if I phone up Dell and say may game is going slow, my PC crashes a lot, my CD Player doesn't work and my printer only prints green stripes - do you think I well get anything other than pushed on to a customer service techy. BUT you say if thousands of folk were all sayin g the same thing it would be different. NO, in fact I saw a site once where these kinds of issue were reported by thousands of folk across all manufacturers. The vast majority were of course due to users not setting things up correvctly.
So if there is a case to be made then let's do it with good strong evidence, and good quality supporting evidence and data. Those youtube videos are not worth much, rather like complaining that the steering on Nissan Cars does not work and to prove it here are some videos of Nissan cars crashing into things (I;m sure youtube is full of them, but it does not prove my case)
Mike

While I do agree with you, I believe HTC already knows exactly what the problem is. Their design/dev team knows whats up, you don't need to spell it out for them. They wont do anything unless they deem it necessary, thats why we need to keep pressing with complains, emails, videos and websites like chainfire has setup.

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Problems with Sling Player Mobile

Is anyone successing using the Kaiser with a Slingbox? I have the latest version of the SB Mobile software that is supposed to run on WM6 but it's very unstable and crashes constantly. I did determine that running Wisbar Advanced would make it crash every time it tried to connect, but shutting that down before starting the program only slightly improved it's stability. I generally can connect and watch video, but any menu options will crash it, as will trying to disconnect and connect again. The Slingbox folks are no help at all, they say the Tilt is not a supported phone (what the heck is WM6 support supposed to mean then??) I'm using the stock HTC ROM, nothing custom or fancy that should be causing problems.
I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
jomo25 said:
I have a Kaiser/unlocked TyTN II. Works fine for me. There have been some with browser proxy issues. Do a search on this forum for details.
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I did search the forum for any comments on sling player, but didn't find much more than a couple mentions of it, only person mentioning a problem was on a thread about the WIMP GPS tracking program. Not sure what you are referring to about a browser proxy issue, what browser?
URPREY said:
Works great on my Tilt and has from day 1. Try a hard reset and only install SP mobile to isolate your issue. It's likely another piece of software causing the problem.
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Aggh, I have been through so many stinking hard resets with this device so far, I just can't stand wasting yet another day trying to reinstall everything *again*. It just seems like every program I attempt to put on it causes something else to break. And I've tried very hard to only install stuff that is stated to work for WM6. But no matter, I have these constant issues all the time. If it's not crashes, it's email failing to check or alarms not going off, or the time not updating properly or whatever. It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
Wow, sorry it's been so agro. I can say that I have one of the first out Kaisers, running Sling Mobile and a slew of other progs, Wimp, iGuidance, Google Maps, MS Live, ContactsCM, PocketInformant, JournalBar, and my SlingBox has never hung. I've not hard reset yet and seldom soft reset. So I know that it can work, you need to start out with a fresh install and add 1 thing a time till you find the problem progs. One of them is messing with you, and unfortunately you've got to find it, one fricking app at a time.
Well, hard-resetting did make the SlingPlayer run flawlessly. I've been slowing adding stuff back on over the last day but have yet to run into whatever it was that was causing the problem. I was hoping it would be something obvious, so I could just restore from backup and not have to spend a lot of time on this, but of course, I couldn't be that lucky and have to put hours of work into it....
I tend to back up a lot as I add apps and test (I prefer SBP Backup), kinda like setting restore points in windows, just in case that last straw app trashes things. Seems the shell progs cause the most issues.
I generally do as well...in this case though the last app I installed *was* the Slingbox Player, so going back to earlier backups wouldn't necessarily save me any time.
I see, I always load Sling 1st then Core player and go from there.
My slingbox wasn't currently connected and running, so I hadn't bothered to download and load the mobile player yet. I don't even have it registered yet, as on my old phone, I never got a good enough connection to get much use out of it. It definitely flies on this phone though!
I'm beginning to wonder if it was simply the order of install that made the difference, as I have all but a couple things reinstalled and it still is working fine. Had one lock-up yesterday from trying to go to fullscreen and back again, but it's definitely far more stable than I was getting before.
I must say as well, this player really blows any other internet TV options out the window! The playback quality really is awesome and being able to watch my own favorite shows at any time is so cool. I never got a ton of use from the Slingbox in the past because a lot of times when I travel I just didn't have access to a good high-speed connection, I'm glad I will finally really be getting some good use out of it. Only problem is that I have the classic model that has these crappy mini-jack inputs with input only (no video pass-through) and I don't have enough outputs on my Tivo as a result to connect everything that I use at once. So I'm trying to decide if it's worth paying to upgrade to a new Slingbox or not. I would guess that the Slingbox Solo would also do a better job with all the HD stuff and correct the aspect a bit better (with the classic, the image is always a bit squished).
Well, haven't quite solved my Sling Player Mobile issues. It seems to work fine over 3G, but crashes every time if I try to connect over my home Wifi connection. Anyone else seeing this? I'd prefer to use the Wifi when available to not overuse the phone service too much (not sure if AT&T really is monitoring this, but no point in testing it if I don't have to!)
maryjos said:
It's really getting frustrating, why is it so freaking hard for Microsoft to write an OS that *works*?! Between Window Mobile and Vista, it's a wonder that more people haven't jumped ship at this point.
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It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts.
You may recall a few years ago when Microsoft went to a signed driver model. Lots of people complained about it, especially companies that produce hardware. But what did we get for it? Fewer crashes and resource conflicts caused by driver incompatabilities. If the mobile world would develop some standards in development and testing the problems you are seeing would become less frequent and easier to resolve.
Is Microsoft perfect? HA! Far from it. But make sure you are pointing the finger at the real culprit.
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It is easy to point the finger at Microsoft but the fact is that your problems are almost certainly caused by one or more applications you installed which were not well written and are causing resource conflicts
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Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
Can I ask a question to you guys about what sort of frames per second you are getting. I am sitting here with my TYTN 2 getting about 8 FPS on Hsdpa full signal. Any thoughts on why the FPS might be so low?.
Many thanks.
Matt.
I have had a look about on the net and the seetings that seem to be the best are 65 bitrate ,full FPS, 30 iframe. I am now getting a good 24 FPS. I hope this helps someone.
Matt.
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Sorry, but this I feel is just a convenient excuse. Yes, you can occasionally run into a really badly written app that causes problems, but I'm talking about constant issues, and I am using all programs that are very mainstream and heavily used by many other PPC users. I used Palm devices for many years and never had the kinds of problems I've had with Windows Mobile devices. And these are problems it's had for YEARS. My very first Pocket PC device (HP Jornada) many years ago had issues with waking up and sounding alarms. Here I am years later, and this *still* is a problem. Look at all the people complaining about the device not waking up to check email. You really want to try and say it's due to something else they have installed that's causing the problem? Come on.
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I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email. Vanilla JUST about everything works as advertised. Does the Tilt have bugs ? Sure everything has bugs.
Using a password and coming out of suspend the back-light is DIM. Completely unreadable in sunlight. Not an OS issue as other WM6 devices didn't have this problem.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust. I think they have come along way since 2003, WM5, moving toward WM6. As for Palm there have been multiple version of their OS mostly geared toward PDA's.
Every OS has issues thats why we get new versions.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ? All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy. I am guessing here but I don't believe Microsoft will show up and fix it, nor will HTC. YOU get to fix it
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
I use it, and like it, so much so that if an app breaks Slingplayer I remove that app not Slingplayer. Others may feel the same way about a Wishbar or an SPB product. If an application is considered CORE that should go in first warts and all.
I installed Microsoft Live search with beta voice support. Cool app like Google maps. It locked up my device hard, twice, and I had to stylus reset to recover. Was it this beta or something else that didnt play nice? I removed the 'not ready for prime time' search application and all is well.
Any application that hooks API's and interrupts in an attempt to supplement and extend functionality is suspect.
That Tilt is a very complex little product. If you are striving to improve its functionality beyond what came in the box, it will be up to you to strike a balance as to what works for you.
Frustrating, at times....
Fun, it can be. I didn't spend hundreds of dollars to be eternally pissed off.
And when it stops being fun and or productive maybe a different OS or closed venue like the iPhone might be a better way to go.
These forums are here to help. We are trying to look for solutions to make these products as cool as they can be.
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I am Sorry, that YOU loaded something that didn't come with your product and it broke.
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Wow, you must be some kind of magician to just come to that conclusion. I have had PPC devices that did NOT work as advertised out of the box. My last one never was able to properly connect with Wifi. I did a hard reset all the way back to nothing but the core apps and it still had problems. The manufacturer blamed it on my router (even though my laptop and Palm device previously had no issues) but I still went out and got another router...and still had problems.
Out of the Box my Tilt checks email.
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Gee, aren't you lucky then. The fact that it works for you does not therefore mean it works for everyone else, particularly since there are many different types of email servers that it needs to connect properly to. With the HTC home app running and nothing else whatsoever installed on my Tilt, I had issues with it checking email.
Microsoft has a responsibility to make this OS robust.
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Exactly...and from where I stand, they've not made as much progress in this area as they need to.
If I load something that isn't from Microsoft and it breaks, how is that a WM6 fault ?
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As you JUST said above, they have a responsibility to make the OS robust. If it was a matter of a single app causing a problem, that's one thing. But it's not, it's a problem with the Windows Mobile platform. How many times do you see on this forum people told they will need to hard-reset their device because of a problem? That's just absurd. If I had to reformat my desktop every time it started misbehaving because of something new I installed, I'd be up in arms!
All blame aside do you really expect Microsoft (or anyone else) to regression test every possible version and combination of application out there so YOU will be happy.
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This is just an absurd statement. I don't expect them to regression test every combination of apps on Windows XP, but I also expect if I install something it's not going to bring my entire system to a crashing halt. But even if it does, on those very rare occasions if you are using legitimate software, at least I have a system restore point to get my device back to a working state, or can boot into safe mode to remove the offending program, etc. Where is the similar type of functionality for Windows Mobile?? Oh, I have to get a 3rd party app like Sprite Backup for that kind of thing. Of course, I had issues with that crashing on me as well (only some of the backup options work).
Slingplayer isn't perfect. There have been multiple versions since the beta all aimed at refining their product.
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Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
maryjos said:
Well, I've gone as far as hard-resetting the device and installing ONLY SlingPlayer and it still crashed on me when trying to connect over Wifi. So who do I blame for that one? If I have nothing else on my device other than the core apps and SlingPlayer and it still doesn't work for me and it works for other people, what then??
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So you've had issues with WM devices connecting via Wifi before? Does it work on someone else's Wifi network?
Which version of Slingplayer are you using? When you say it crashes, does it actually crash or just closes itself?
Also, the HTC Home plugin should have zero effect on checking email.
You can blame the software/hardware, but I don't think there are any other users having so many unique issues. Maybe WM isn't for you?

Flash Video Bundle

On wifi plays youtube flawlessly but the video stutters whilst on HSDPA...
Has anyone else got this problem ?
I'm sure I had it working pretty good before.
recent tcpmp problem too
I do not know if your having the same issue as I am. I had flashvideo bundle and tcpmp installed and working fairly well.
Now I notice that I can barely playback any youtube vids.
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On wifi plays youtube flawlessly but the video stutters whilst on HSDPA...
Has anyone else got this problem ?
I'm sure I had it working pretty good before.
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Youtube + Other sites work fine for me, check the signal strength of your HSDPA connection as that could be the problem, or maybe your provider has put a cap on how much can be downloaded to the phone?
meeek said:
Youtube + Other sites work fine for me, check the signal strength of your HSDPA connection as that could be the problem, or maybe your provider has put a cap on how much can be downloaded to the phone?
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Not sure if that is it as the network monitor shows 800-900 kbps whilst streaming youtube.
Could it be the way that the packets are hitting the TCPMP whilst over HSDPA ?
PPCs and PCs are affected by youtube changes!!
It could also be the fact that youtube are constantly changing the way their videos are accessed.
What worked flawlessly on my PC last week, no longer works this week (due to country limitations now). So if this is how youtube is going regarding PCs, expect problems on PPCs.
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I do not know if your having the same issue as I am. I had flashvideo bundle and tcpmp installed and working fairly well.
Now I notice that I can barely playback any youtube vids.
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I've noticed the same problem viewing any videos. I'd give an answer, but I dont care enough about watching videos to search for an aswer.
I have been using the flash video bundle with tcpmp to watch video on youtube without any problems.
I'm new to this and I came across Flash 7 for Windows mobile and was wondering if this is similar, the same, better or worse than what I have now. I didn't want to install it until I have more info...
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I have been using the flash video bundle with tcpmp to watch video on youtube without any problems.
I'm new to this and I came across Flash 7 for Windows mobile and was wondering if this is similar, the same, better or worse than what I have now. I didn't want to install it until I have more info...
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thats totally unrelated to the flash video bundle
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ok not totally unrelated but they are two different things. installing flash 7 is not gonna make your flashvideobundle any better, its not like an upgrade to it
Sorry. I posted this question in a new thread and the moderator specifically said to post this in a Flash Bundle thread and shut the new thread down. Obviously I don't understand the relationship between these two things and would like some info. The moderator thought this might be a good forum for that.
There are other web sites I visit similar to YouTube that have videos. When I try to access them I get the message to download the latest flash player. I'm not sure why they aren't handled similarly to the YouTube videos, but if there is a connection between the flash bundle and flash player 7 as it pertains to this issue, I would like to know. Thats all. If not, then I stand corrected...
the flashvideobundle only works with the sites defined in the video sites.....you know what, why am i even bothering to explain this to you (i mean this in a nice way) i did write a wiki article just to answer these questions
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=FlashVideoBundle
"2.15 When I go to www.youtube.com, PIE hangs or my device hangs.
Some users have reported that the "Macromedia Flash 7 Active-X" plugin causes this hang and is incompatible with the FlashVideoBundle. You can try removing Flash 7 to see if it fixes this."
Thanks. This pretty much answers the question of compatibility. I have not seen the flash 7 plugin. Does it have similar/overlapping functionality? Obviously you have provided this bundle to play flash video so there must be some inadequacies to it (flash7).
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It could also be the fact that youtube are constantly changing the way their videos are accessed.
What worked flawlessly on my PC last week, no longer works this week (due to country limitations now). So if this is how youtube is going regarding PCs, expect problems on PPCs.
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I dont know what kind of problems you're experiencing but the new flash player is faulty (and yet, adobe does not remove the update from their site/update systems).
If you have it installed; there's a high chance that at a sudden point, videos will only play for 3 secs (without sound) and then stop.
Skyfire FTW
I now use Skyfire. It plays all video sites. even HULU, Monk....
hsdpa youtube glitch answer
the reason your phone plays youtube videos choppy when you are using hsdpa and not wifi is because the hsdpa signal is a highly compressed data packet that your phone has to uncompress which takes up a bit of your phones processor speed not leaving enough to play all of the frames of the video.if it really bothers you when using the hsdpa try downloading the video first then playing it first i guarantee it will play as smooth as silk.(before playing you also might want to close all other running programs as phones have limited resources ie. memory,processor speed.
Flash has become my biggest headache. I can play youtube just fine. The Youtube player in M2D update 20 plays smooth as buddah. What I can't get past is that half the internet gives me a message about needing Flash 8 or higher. Countless hours searching dead-end threads, useless links, and useless installs have left me without success. I can view most of these sites with Spyfire, but for obvious reasons, I prefer to avoid that browser. Opera is my default browser, and I dig it, but the Flash issue has me frustrated. PIE is no better. I can't even run a speedtest. I've run them with Skyfire, but because it's rendered through their server, it's inaccurate. I don't believe I'm getting 7.5MB/s with Edge, even tho my speedtests say so. If there's a way to get flash 8 content to run in Opera, it would be nice to see that info on the Kaiser Wiki, and eliminate all these threads.
As far as Youtube, like I said, it plays fine in the M2D update 20 package. I'm running the SPB 3.0 build 6411 interface with the M2D disabled in Today, and the youtube player still works fine.

OTA iTunes syncing?

Anyone got this working yet? i cant seem to find where to do it.
I've been using TuneSync from the market.
It's a little slow, but it works.
Unless FroYo was supposed to bring something else to the table...?
to OP, i don't think it was ever stated that froyo would contain the ability to sync with iTunes, it was only mentioned that Google bought some company that worked on software to do this.
At the IO, they showed an itunes library, that had been OTA synced with the nexus one, you could then stream the music straight through the phone.
That was shown as a demo of "beyond Froyo" I am pretty certain.
Not 100% sure whether this is it, or something that does the same thing.
http://www.intomobile.com/2010/05/2...oid-streams-your-own-library-back-to-you.html
Out in June, and first 2 gigs is free.
"To allow mSpot to work in all wireless coverage scenarios, the songs are transcoded into a really low bitrate upon uploading to the cloud – which translates into about 30% of the audio information available in a typical 128-196kbps MP3."
I'm no audiophile, but a 70% reduction in bitrate is unacceptable, especially for a service you'll be paying for.

Lumia r android?

Hey guys i Have a Samsung galaxy s2 (Which I love dearlyand am planning to go for some other phone(upgrade)! :cyclops: my friends suggested me to go for a LUMIA and i got convinced(Almost)...'Man Why Leave Android?'was the question That Pop-ed Up! in My head!!!.....
Should i Go for a Lumia Guys???Is It Worth The Money?
PLZZ sUggesT
ALL i want my Smart-Phone to do is :
Check Mail(Tons of 'em)
Stay connected to 3g/Wi-Fi Throughout The day
Hear Hours of Music!
And The Battery Should Last Me atleast 12 Hours of Heavy Usage!
So what do u Suggest!!!
Only you can answer that. In my opinion wp is the best phone / social hub out there. What it does out of the box is second to none, If you want to mod the crap out of a it and have what is essentially a pocket computer then it isn't perhaps what you want.
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Depending on your definition of "heavy usage" then it's quite possible that there is no smartphone which, out of the box, will meet it... but there's a huge difference between, say, playing an online game (CPU at full speed, GPU at full speed, screen on continuously, data on continuously, audio on continuously) and streaming music (data and audio, but not much else). My ATIV S can do the latter for 12 hours no problem (all day, if it's playing local music rather than streaming) and that's without turning off the automatic synch of six email accounts and a few other background tasks. Generally speaking, WP8 will be better about battery use than Android, although an Android phone that emphasized long battery life could still last longer than a Windows phone that does, all other things being equal.
Checking multiple mail accounts works very nicely. I keep them separate on my phone, but you can combine them if you want to.
Staying connected is no problem. WP8 does default to turning off WiFi while the phone is unplugged and the screen off, but you can override this behavior if you want to; otherwise, the switch between WiFi and cellular data is seamless anyhow.
Music is one of the main things I use my phone for; it works great. I mostly stream from Xbox Music (I have what used to be called a Zune Pass, which gives me all-you-can-eat music streaming and even downloading, valid for as long as you maintain the subscription) and the phone should come with a free trial of that service; Nokia also has their own music streaming service, plus there's apps for using third-party services (Pandora, etc.). Please do note that due to licensing BS, these services may or may not be available in your region; if you expect to use them, check first! In any case, just playing music off the internal storage or SD card works fine.
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Depending on your definition of "heavy usage" then it's quite possible that there is no smartphone which, out of the box, will meet it... but there's a huge difference between, say, playing an online game (CPU at full speed, GPU at full speed, screen on continuously, data on continuously, audio on continuously) and streaming music (data and audio, but not much else). My ATIV S can do the latter for 12 hours no problem (all day, if it's playing local music rather than streaming) and that's without turning off the automatic synch of six email accounts and a few other background tasks. Generally speaking, WP8 will be better about battery use than Android, although an Android phone that emphasized long battery life could still last longer than a Windows phone that does, all other things being equal.
Checking multiple mail accounts works very nicely. I keep them separate on my phone, but you can combine them if you want to.
Staying connected is no problem. WP8 does default to turning off WiFi while the phone is unplugged and the screen off, but you can override this behavior if you want to; otherwise, the switch between WiFi and cellular data is seamless anyhow.
Music is one of the main things I use my phone for; it works great. I mostly stream from Xbox Music (I have what used to be called a Zune Pass, which gives me all-you-can-eat music streaming and even downloading, valid for as long as you maintain the subscription) and the phone should come with a free trial of that service; Nokia also has their own music streaming service, plus there's apps for using third-party services (Pandora, etc.). Please do note that due to licensing BS, these services may or may not be available in your region; if you expect to use them, check first! In any case, just playing music off the internal storage or SD card works fine.
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Gee thanks guys.... But i dont do gamin in ma phone juz some lite gaming like temple run....and
i love photography
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Only you can answer that. In my opinion wp is the best phone / social hub out there. What it does out of the box is second to none, If you want to mod the crap out of a it and have what is essentially a pocket computer then it isn't perhaps what you want.
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shazzy1 said:
Gee thanks guys.... But i dont do gamin in ma phone juz some lite gaming like temple run....and
i love photography
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If you love photography, you will go madly in love with a 920,925 or the beefier 1020(41mpx camera)
Yeah, if you want the best photos from your phone, then hands-down the 1020 is the device for you. It has a good battery life too. The performance should blow away your S2 as well.

Need some help with Note 5 lack of features is it fixable??

Hi I am coming form a heavily used Note 2. As a business owner the Note 2 was my most important piece of equipment!!! Plus being always on the go it's flash video capabilities made being away from home easy. I never missed a basketball game or big fight. Watched them right on my phone. I remember being at a restaurant one Saturday night away from home and having the whole bar area crowd around my phone to watch a big fight. Pretty cool and useful. Unfortunately my Note 2 bit the dust and cant be fixed for reasonable money. Sprint store talked me into a Note 5 for my upgrade and contract renewal with a cheaper plan.
I was wondering if there are any ways to get similar apps or mods on my Note 5 Without rooting it. I am very dissapointed and feel like taking it back. Not impressed at all. Especially since I am out of pocket $200 and had to sign a 2 year plan. Maybe somebody can help or suggest some things. Or at least this can be a WARNING to potential buyers of the phones REAL LIFE CAPABILITIES AND LIMITS. Not some generic commercial hype or store sales pitch of since its a #5 it is better and does more things than the earlier numbered phones.
1. No live sports or new movie streams though web browsers
Lack of flash support ... I used flash websites to stream live sports or newer movies on my Note 2. I have downloaded the proper Adobe Flash version on the Note 5. I have also downloaded and enabled browsers like Firefox, Flash Fox, and Dolphin.
I have verified that flash is working. However, the sites for the live sports and movies DO NOT work. These sites all worked fine with the Note 2 stock browser.... Any other flash browser suggestions???? Anyway to download or install the Note 2 stock browser on Note 5?????
2. Mirroring. Watching EXACTLY what you see on your phone to a big TV.
All share Samsung data caster. I bought an expensive Samsung data caster that worked well to mirror my phone on to my living room TV.....Anyway to use this with my Note 5????? I don't see the option to on the phone.
Will a MHL cord to hdmi still mirror for a note 5??????
3. Using your internet and making a phone call at the same time.
Since I travel I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and computers....Tether... On my Note 2 with the PDA.net app it worked great. Was faster than any home internet I ever had. I could be on the phone and be browsing the web on my computer at the same time. It worked so well I cancelled my home ISP. It also came in handy even to just look things up on the phones internet while you were talking to clients.... I was VERY UPSET to find out that I can not do any of this on the Note 5. This is a major deal. I don't get this one at all. Any way to fix???????
4. Sound for music is not anything better.
5. Notifications and display are far less attention grabbing than on the Note 2. Easily miss texts or overlook them. The notification L.E.D.S are super WEAK.
6. My battery drains way faster! It does charge faster though. But I don't think this will be a good device to have where charging is not an option for a while.
7. You cant delete photos from the gallery... You have to open up the camera app to delete them... This seems so strange and pointless. Am I missing something here??????
Would appreciate any help or feedback on these issues. Thanks...
1. Not sure
2. Chromecast/Fire Stick, both work as I have personally tested this and both are available for under 50 dollars. (The screen mirroring option is in the quick toggles on your Note 5, mirrors everything on the screen not just compatible apps.)
3.Have not tested this
4. I think you need better headphones if you think it does not sound better.
5. Have not noticed this either
6. Disable unneeded apps, I am getting great battery life from mine.
7.QuickPic
whoamanwtf said:
1. Not sure
2. Chromecast/Fire Stick, both work as I have personally tested this and both are available for under 50 dollars. (The screen mirroring option is in the quick toggles on your Note 5, mirrors everything on the screen not just compatible apps.)
3.Have not tested this
4. I think you need better headphones if you think it does not sound better.
5. Have not noticed this either
6. Disable unneeded apps, I am getting great battery life from mine.
7.QuickPic
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Thanks for the info and response!!!!
2. I tried the the "quick connect" feature in the toggle down menu. IT WORKED with my DATA CASTER. I just don't like how it cuts the WI FI on too. i can live with that though. I now have mirroring without having to buy something else. Thanks!!!!
3. Yeah I have tested and confirmed with Sprint. Supposedly its a big deal and a lot of people are sending their phones back because of this. Literally just had a real life scenario where i needed to be on the phone and browse the web but couldn't..
4. I have $60 earbuds from Sienheiser. Maybe your ears work better or you have better head phones. I'm not willing to pay any more than $60 or buy another pair. They are less than a year old. But the sound is great. Just hard for my ears to pick up the difference. Both Note 2 and note 5 sound excellent though.
5. I also noticed that if you stay on a text message conversation screen and leave the screen on. . . . It will not ring or notify you if an additional text from that sender comes through. I don't like that at all. I want it to ring and vibrate for every text no matter what!
6. Can you clarify what you mean by disable????? Like delete???? Which ones did you get rid of????
7. I will look into QuickPic.....I'm guessing its an app in the play store?
Was your note 2 on lollipop? I have a feeling son of the things like notifications might be a lollipop thing not a note 5 thing
Go to your setting and adjust everything till it feels like your ideal phone.
If you're near wifi you can talk and be online at the same time l
GreeleyXda said:
Was your note 2 on lollipop? I have a feeling son of the things like notifications might be a lollipop thing not a note 5 thing
Go to your setting and adjust everything till it feels like your ideal phone.
If you're near wifi you can talk and be online at the same time l
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No i didnt have lollipop. I tried and played with the notification settings. Those are more limited too. Using wifi isnt an option for me often because i cancelled my home isp because tethering was faster and more dependable.
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No i didnt have lollipop. I tried and played with the notification settings. Those are more limited too. Using wifi isnt an option for me often because i cancelled my home isp because tethering was faster and more dependable.
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just tried first row sports using the dolphin browser and dolphin jetpack, after a little tinkering and changing to desktop mode, auto enabling flash play it works on streaming sports with flash. Give that a go and let me know
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just tried first row sports using the dolphin browser and dolphin jetpack, after a little tinkering and changing to desktop mode, auto enabling flash play it works on streaming sports with flash. Give that a go and let me know
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I have tried first row sports. With no luck. Freezes after a second at best.
Are you able to go full screen?
What link is working for you?
What is Dolphin jetpack?
Thanks for the help!
Just an extension of dolphin browser in the marketplace. Give it a go
gn4life84 said:
Hi I am coming form a heavily used Note 2. As a business owner the Note 2 was my most important piece of equipment!!! Plus being always on the go it's flash video capabilities made being away from home easy. I never missed a basketball game or big fight. Watched them right on my phone. I remember being at a restaurant one Saturday night away from home and having the whole bar area crowd around my phone to watch a big fight. Pretty cool and useful. Unfortunately my Note 2 bit the dust and cant be fixed for reasonable money. Sprint store talked me into a Note 5 for my upgrade and contract renewal with a cheaper plan.
I was wondering if there are any ways to get similar apps or mods on my Note 5 Without rooting it. I am very dissapointed and feel like taking it back. Not impressed at all. Especially since I am out of pocket $200 and had to sign a 2 year plan. Maybe somebody can help or suggest some things. Or at least this can be a WARNING to potential buyers of the phones REAL LIFE CAPABILITIES AND LIMITS. Not some generic commercial hype or store sales pitch of since its a #5 it is better and does more things than the earlier numbered phones.
1. No live sports or new movie streams though web browsers
Lack of flash support ... I used flash websites to stream live sports or newer movies on my Note 2. I have downloaded the proper Adobe Flash version on the Note 5. I have also downloaded and enabled browsers like Firefox, Flash Fox, and Dolphin.
I have verified that flash is working. However, the sites for the live sports and movies DO NOT work. These sites all worked fine with the Note 2 stock browser.... Any other flash browser suggestions???? Anyway to download or install the Note 2 stock browser on Note 5?????
2. Mirroring. Watching EXACTLY what you see on your phone to a big TV.
All share Samsung data caster. I bought an expensive Samsung data caster that worked well to mirror my phone on to my living room TV.....Anyway to use this with my Note 5????? I don't see the option to on the phone.
Will a MHL cord to hdmi still mirror for a note 5??????
3. Using your internet and making a phone call at the same time.
Since I travel I use my phone as a modem for my laptop and computers....Tether... On my Note 2 with the PDA.net app it worked great. Was faster than any home internet I ever had. I could be on the phone and be browsing the web on my computer at the same time. It worked so well I cancelled my home ISP. It also came in handy even to just look things up on the phones internet while you were talking to clients.... I was VERY UPSET to find out that I can not do any of this on the Note 5. This is a major deal. I don't get this one at all. Any way to fix???????
4. Sound for music is not anything better.
5. Notifications and display are far less attention grabbing than on the Note 2. Easily miss texts or overlook them. The notification L.E.D.S are super WEAK.
6. My battery drains way faster! It does charge faster though. But I don't think this will be a good device to have where charging is not an option for a while.
7. You cant delete photos from the gallery... You have to open up the camera app to delete them... This seems so strange and pointless. Am I missing something here??????
Would appreciate any help or feedback on these issues. Thanks...
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1) You had an Android device from 2012. The internet and Google have since moved on to HTML5. Flash is dead. Very few OSs support flash anymore. This isn't a phone issue. The unfortunate issue is your websites still utilize flash which is dangerous and a battery hog. A lot of security flaws and too much memory usage.
2)DL AllCast from the Google Play store, it hacks into any casting device. I have an AppleTV (back when I used to be pro Apple) and I use it constantly. All your casting needs whether it's a movie, phone screen, music, gallery etc all at your fingertips.
3)This is a Sprint issue not a phone issue. Sprint uses CMDA technology which requires dual cellular radios in order to surf and talk. Every other carrier supports simultaneous voice and data. I have Verizon (also CDMA, but I have dual radios in my phone) and can do it with my phone. When the phones hit a particular carrier, they decide to upgrade the radios to do surf/talk. If they decide not to which Sprint did not. You can't. Some claim this is a way to keep they're network bandwidth higher. Its 2015, regardless the phone should be able to do it.
4) The Note 5 came with a lot of new audio support modes. One feature I would recommend is using adaptic. It recognizes your ears ability to sense particular frequencies and changes the sound to your ears which makes a lot of difference.
5) You change change your notification settings in the individual apps your speaking off. The LED notification can be adjusted to your liking within settings. If this doesn't work. You can always DL an app that uses your phones flash to flash when your getting a notification (I know, I know.... Like an iPhone but it works great).
6). Lollipop has not been kind to device batteries. A lot of unnecessary system processes and apps. There are other posts within the Note 5 category that will guide you on debloating and disabling those packages and apps to gain better performance. Again not a phone issue but a software issue. Android M (which these phones will be first in-line to get) will change a lot of the problems they created in Lollipop. The Note 5 is not the only phone that suffers from this problem. A lot of them do.
7) Yes you can, but its hidden behind a sub menu. Long press on the photo you want to delete and it will pop open the delete function in the top menu bar (see image attached)
Hope this all helps. I suggest dumping Sprint and coming to Verizon. While it's not cheaper. It certainly is much better. Speeds, tethering, and service pretty much everywhere.
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Just an extension of dolphin browser in the marketplace. Give it a go
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ok installed.
Same thing... Will play for a second then freezes with Link 2... Also will not go full screen. Tried mobile and desktop modes.
Are you able to watch for more than a few secs and @ full screen without freezing????
niftyguy239 said:
1) You had an Android device from 2012. The internet and Google have since moved on to HTML5. Flash is dead. Very few OSs support flash anymore. This isn't a phone issue. The unfortunate issue is your websites still utilize flash which is dangerous and a battery hog. A lot of security flaws and too much memory usage.
2)DL AllCast from the Google Play store, it hacks into any casting device. I have an AppleTV (back when I used to be pro Apple) and I use it constantly. All your casting needs whether it's a movie, phone screen, music, gallery etc all at your fingertips.
3)This is a Sprint issue not a phone issue. Sprint uses CMDA technology which requires dual cellular radios in order to surf and talk. Every other carrier supports simultaneous voice and data. I have Verizon (also CDMA, but I have dual radios in my phone) and can do it with my phone. When the phones hit a particular carrier, they decide to upgrade the radios to do surf/talk. If they decide not to which Sprint did not. You can't. Some claim this is a way to keep they're network bandwidth higher. Its 2015, regardless the phone should be able to do it.
4) The Note 5 came with a lot of new audio support modes. One feature I would recommend is using adaptic. It recognizes your ears ability to sense particular frequencies and changes the sound to your ears which makes a lot of difference.
5) You change change your notification settings in the individual apps your speaking off. The LED notification can be adjusted to your liking within settings. If this doesn't work. You can always DL an app that uses your phones flash to flash when your getting a notification (I know, I know.... Like an iPhone but it works great).
6). Lollipop has not been kind to device batteries. A lot of unnecessary system processes and apps. There are other posts within the Note 5 category that will guide you on debloating and disabling those packages and apps to gain better performance. Again not a phone issue but a software issue. Android M (which these phones will be first in-line to get) will change a lot of the problems they created in Lollipop. The Note 5 is not the only phone that suffers from this problem. A lot of them do.
7) Yes you can, but its hidden behind a sub menu. Long press on the photo you want to delete and it will pop open the delete function in the top menu bar (see image attached)
Hope this all helps. I suggest dumping Sprint and coming to Verizon. While it's not cheaper. It certainly is much better. Speeds, tethering, and service pretty much everywhere.
Sent from my SM-N920V using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks for all the info I really appreciate that!!!!!!:good:
1. Is 3 years really that long.... When you spend that much money for something i would expect to have that option. You don't have to use a or go on a flash site if you don't want to....Flash is alive and well. Like I had mentioned earlier, people who stream Live sports and recent movie releases are all still Flash sites. I do not know of one html5 site that live streams sports.... Would love to find one if its out there though
2. I got the stock app to work with my Samsung All share Data caster. It is really choppy though. Thanks I will give that one a try and see if its any better
3. Wow that makes me even angrier with Sprint. i have tried to go to Verizon and t-mobile. They both have said stick with Sprint. My bills would be over twice as much with them because they don't do true unlimited Data like sprint does. Even when they do offer it, they bottleneck and slow your speed down once you reach a certain amount of data... My data usage makes Sprint my only choice and the fastest for me.
4. Will try thanks!!!!!
5. Note 5 has that from factory. I have it turned on. but in the day light the white flash is not to visible. Also, not visible when the phone is screen up. I have played with the settings. The notification LED just isn't that bright, big, flashes frequent enough to work as well as the older one. The Flash notification though is super helpful at night or in the dark.
6. If I keep the phone I will look into that. However, I find all the battery life claims with factory settings....auto screen brightness, keeping all apps closed, with just normal daily use to be terrible. I find it hard to believe that getting rid of the bloat-ware will take it form terrible to acceptable, but i'll take your word for it ... I hope so.
7. No attached image is showing for me????? I tried tapping and holding the pic and nothing is happening.......still only gives the option to share.
I think dolphin browser still works with flash. you will have to find the flash apk download though.
gn4life84 said:
ok installed.
Same thing... Will play for a second then freezes with Link 2... Also will not go full screen. Tried mobile and desktop modes.
Are you able to watch for more than a few secs and @ full screen without freezing????
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trying to get the soccer streams to work isn't working for myself, but I was always able to get UFC to stream and NFL/CFL when I would try. I'll let you know later on if it works for me, might just be the streams are crap too.
gn4life84 said:
Thanks for all the info I really appreciate that!!!!!!:good:
1. Is 3 years really that long.... When you spend that much money for something i would expect to have that option. You don't have to use a or go on a flash site if you don't want to....Flash is alive and well. Like I had mentioned earlier, people who stream Live sports and recent movie releases are all still Flash sites. I do not know of one html5 site that live streams sports.... Would love to find one if its out there though
2. I got the stock app to work with my Samsung All share Data caster. It is really choppy though. Thanks I will give that one a try and see if its any better
3. Wow that makes me even angrier with Sprint. i have tried to go to Verizon and t-mobile. They both have said stick with Sprint. My bills would be over twice as much with them because they don't do true unlimited Data like sprint does. Even when they do offer it, they bottleneck and slow your speed down once you reach a certain amount of data... My data usage makes Sprint my only choice and the fastest for me.
4. Will try thanks!!!!!
5. Note 5 has that from factory. I have it turned on. but in the day light the white flash is not to visible. Also, not visible when the phone is screen up. I have played with the settings. The notification LED just isn't that bright, big, flashes frequent enough to work as well as the older one. The Flash notification though is super helpful at night or in the dark.
6. If I keep the phone I will look into that. However, I find all the battery life claims with factory settings....auto screen brightness, keeping all apps closed, with just normal daily use to be terrible. I find it hard to believe that getting rid of the bloat-ware will take it form terrible to acceptable, but i'll take your word for it ... I hope so.
7. No attached image is showing for me????? I tried tapping and holding the pic and nothing is happening.......still only gives the option to share.
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Flash is dead:
http://www.businessinsider.com/google-chrome-wont-autoplay-flash-ads-2015-8
In device terms with technology coming out. Yes 3 years is old enough.
With phone service you get what you pay for. I've never had a dropped call, network failure, or internet outtage. And from previous experiences living in the sticks of Kentucky. I still got 4G Verizon. Now I'm in Florida and never lower then 3 bars of coverage. I pay $234 a month for two phones and a tablet. I pay for 10gb and I get additional 5gb of data added to my plan per month for free as I am a loyal Verizon Customer. So it works out great.
Idk why it didn't post so my apologies.
Here are photos of the deleting procedure and my battery life on my phone after stream lining it. I average 18-22 hrs on a single charge. Depending on usage.
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I think dolphin browser still works with flash. you will have to find the flash apk download though.
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Stated that i have the correct flash apk and Dolphin+ tried 4 other "flash friendly browsers" too. Some flash works but not all. none of the live sports stuff works....
phil.W said:
trying to get the soccer streams to work isn't working for myself, but I was always able to get UFC to stream and NFL/CFL when I would try. I'll let you know later on if it works for me, might just be the streams are crap too.
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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I hadn't tried as of yet, but it raises the question. It worked for my note 2 and 3 when I had them
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COOL you get exactly what i'm talking about!!!! :good: Yes please keep me updated... Was able to do this on my Note 2 all the time. Have not been able to get any stream to work full screen or at all past a second or 2 on my Note 5.
So you are saying you have gotten the ufc or nfl streams to work on your note 5????
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totally dependant on the stream, just tried a rugby stream and it was perfectly fine on first row, using dolphin with flash
phil.W said:
totally dependant on the stream, just tried a rugby stream and it was perfectly fine on first row, using dolphin with flash
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Still cant get flash, dolphin, and front row to work....
Some more updates
- Still cant get flash for front row to work with Dolphin.
More updates:
-LED notifications are super weak and almost not visible on bright sunny days
- Have missed several text because if I leave a text conversation open if a text from that sender comes through It wont notify you.
-Also all free messaging apps wont work while you are on the phone. Like KIK and others. You can not receive any of those messages until you get off the phone . Makes me wonder if Email is like this too???? How counter productive and backwards...
They literally have taken out more features and all multi tasking... So what do I care if the hardware is better????? IT DOES WAY LESS!!!!!
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I use hangouts dialer and a google voice line to place calls and keep my data line open....
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-Also all free messaging apps wont work while you are on the phone. Like KIK and others. You can not receive any of those messages until you get off the phone . Makes me wonder if Email is like this too???? How counter productive and backwards...
They literally have taken out more features and all multi tasking... So what do I care if the hardware is better????? IT DOES WAY LESS!!!!!
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Yeah that part is true and no mapping and no nothing about data when your on a call. But you can hear a cricket fart at 200 paces! But again that is a sprint thing. Sprint blames it onSamsung but Samsung builds to sprints specs.

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