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PIE Crashes on www.youtube.nl

Some help please my fellow kaiser users,
Every time I visit http://nl.youtube.com/?nomobile=1 pocket internet explorer hangs after downloading about 188kb of the site. It wont close, and wm6 stops responding to input..
I have used the site before, no problems, played streaming video content fine. Any idea's how to fix it? I tried restoring default regs/setting for PIE. Or is it just something with the website?
Could some just try to load this page on their kaiser and report if it works?
(Using PIE from T-Mobile NL original rom.)

SOLVED the PIE crashing on youtube
The activex control of the pocket IE flash plugin I was using, caused the system to become unstable when browsing to a site with a lot of flash.
By removing the flash active x control, I can once again watch youtube material.

Good for you dude, i still can't play streaming video through my TyTn2.
I use the KPN Mobile network, which network do you use?

I use T-Mobile PIT, 64kbps capped UMTS connection, but this is way to slow to watch youtube vids, so I'm talking about streaming youtube content over wireless lan connections only..

PIT is too slow indeed.
Still, my friend has Telfort and streams youtube without buffering once. Could it be that he's using HSDPA bandwith and therefor will receive a bill of one-kazillion-million Euros at the end of the month ?
Anyway, we'll just have to wait. In a year or so our Providers will surely get us some higher speeds.

mr4000, I am having the exact same issue. About 185kb it hangs. How do I remove the activeX control?

You tube videos of driver problem

Lets get a list of all the videos available that show the driver issue so we can send them to ATT. I emailed an ATT contact and he forwarded it to his boss and HTC. He said to keep the videos coming. So lets round up all the videos in this thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeb8-m5opDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHG377wkQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qbaDLzOU_Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeb8-m5opDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qbaDLzOU_Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhHG377wkQU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8uq4FtduY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjS9zz2bww

Damn this makes me depressed.

Thanks, keep em coming the more the better.
What software can you use to make a video straight from the phone?

If folk want to make a strong case, then you need to be sure you are making a clear and proven case or it will not carry any weight at all.
Some of the youtube videos above ar nothing to do with the video drivers. Just as an example, the slow scrolling in PIE (the cause of which is known and an easy fix available) is not a video driver issue.
I play videos in AVI and MPEG format without freezing and jumping (and without special encoding). So you need to specify exactly what videos cause problems. We are not given details of what setup the videos shown are using. I can easily make video stutter like that on my PC with certain settings.
I am not saying there is no room for improvement and so don't bother. What I am saying is that the case to HTC will be ruined if it is mixed in with other totally unrelated issues, nothing to do with video drivers and a poor data on the video setup. It is easy for the likes of AT&T to say yeah give us your videos and we'll pass them to HTC. That's just cloud cukoo land if you think HTC will be influenced by stuttery videos on youtube.
I am becoming disappointed by the quality of the case that is being made to HTC on this issue. We will get nowhere unless we show a professional approach here with precise, accurate detail on video formats/resolutions frame rates etc etc that are causing a problem. It certainly is not all formats and for most you can adjust the settings in a good player to work fine. We should also not confuse problems with Windows Mobile, Specific MS programmes and driver issues. PIE scrolling is a specific programme issue (in the latest version only). Videos of a game going slowly prove zilch because we have no background info. on the setup other running applications etc.
Our case should be narrowly and precisely focused to make any impact. A host of random issues with no supporting evidence is doomed to fail. To give an example - if I phone up Dell and say may game is going slow, my PC crashes a lot, my CD Player doesn't work and my printer only prints green stripes - do you think I well get anything other than pushed on to a customer service techy. BUT you say if thousands of folk were all sayin g the same thing it would be different. NO, in fact I saw a site once where these kinds of issue were reported by thousands of folk across all manufacturers. The vast majority were of course due to users not setting things up correvctly.
So if there is a case to be made then let's do it with good strong evidence, and good quality supporting evidence and data. Those youtube videos are not worth much, rather like complaining that the steering on Nissan Cars does not work and to prove it here are some videos of Nissan cars crashing into things (I;m sure youtube is full of them, but it does not prove my case)
Mike

While I do agree with you, I believe HTC already knows exactly what the problem is. Their design/dev team knows whats up, you don't need to spell it out for them. They wont do anything unless they deem it necessary, thats why we need to keep pressing with complains, emails, videos and websites like chainfire has setup.

Qik

Does anyone have this running on a tilt?
http://www.qik.com/
it's a live streaming web video that uses your phones camera.
Mine gets stuck on launch with "initializing camera". Other people on the qik site with a tilt have the same issue.
Wondering if anyone is running it here or knows how to fix that problem.

there is a cab to enable att video calling, i assume that since att doesnt support video calling that is the problem. search for the cab, youll find it, also try installing att disable hidden proxy cab. hope that helps

cab
can someone post the cab file for tilt here? sms method didn't work for me

bilbobrian said:
there is a cab to enable att video calling, i assume that since att doesnt support video calling that is the problem. search for the cab, youll find it, also try installing att disable hidden proxy cab. hope that helps
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no its not! it is for video streaming!

I had forgotten about Qik.
I signed up a while ago, only to discover that our phone wasn't supported!
I've just resurrected my account and downloaded the program and tested it.
It seems to work really well.

tried that cab. it wanted to upgrade to newer version. and still had "camera initializing.."
Maybe because I'm running a cooked rom?

AthenaLod said:
no its not! it is for video streaming![/QUOTe
when you use exclamation points you are yelling, i dont appreciate it at all.
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i thought i saw that video calling is supported by new 6.1..
i dont use so i didnt make note and dont care.

bilbobrian said:
if its streaming from your camera same as video calling is it not?
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actually no
it's just using a camera source. nothing to do with the HTC front camera and tilt missing it. lots of people have qik running on the tilt. I do not yet.

just trying to help

bilbobrian said:
if its streaming from your camera same as video calling is it not?
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No it is not. Video calling as a native feature of 3G networks, and it's thus handled by the 3G protocol stack. The Tilt having no front cam and not being meant to use video calling, that function was disabled. It can be enabled and the back cam used instead though.
But that has no effect on any other program wanting to open a video device (either back or front one) and do whatever it wants with it like encoding and streaming its feed over the internet.
Try researching a bit before shouting at innocent people...
Re the program, looks good, I might have a try

whos yelling

I use Livecast w/o any problems.

well, i just put it on my tilt and it works fine just that i get a long delay on the live video.

Works "fine" on my tilt... 10-15 second delay though :-(

MineralGray02K said:
I use Livecast w/o any problems.
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I've used Livecast as well but Qik seems to be much better.
I used Livecast at a football (soccer) game that I went to one time.
On my club's forum, people who can't make the game 'cos they're working or they're ex-pats log in and follow/discuss the game online, creating a "match thread".
I posted a link to my Livecast page and gave them snippets of the game.
At one point, my team got a penalty kick, so I was able to quickly start Livecast and let them see the goal (almost) live.
Watching it later the picture was absolutely lamentable though, Qik definitely seems to be a step up from that.

Qik support
hey Guys, thanks for trying the Qik and for the feedback. Actually I'm from Qik team and I want you getting involved in the process of development. I know there are some problems with Kaiser devices. I really want you to provide some debug builds with extended logging to figure out the problem.
If you have any ideas about Qik, things to improve, feature requests please left posts on this thread or contact me directly vovk <[at]> qik.com

Just something that may or may not be relevant to the people who are getting "initializing camera".
I hadn't had this problem but recently I tried to stream some video, realising too late that I was in a bit of a dead spot where I could only get GPRS, not 3G or HSDPA.
I immediately got the "initializing camera" message and it stayed like that until I did a soft reset.
It might (note 'might') be worth checking that you've got a decent 3G signal before opening qik.

Sparrowhawk said:
Just something that may or may not be relevant to the people who are getting "initializing camera".
I hadn't had this problem but recently I tried to stream some video, realising too late that I was in a bit of a dead spot where I could only get GPRS, not 3G or HSDPA.
I immediately got the "initializing camera" message and it stayed like that until I did a soft reset.
It might (note 'might') be worth checking that you've got a decent 3G signal before opening qik.
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Alright, ignore the above.
I'm just sitting here, I had a big ol' HSDPA signal and I thought that I'd try qik...............................
"Initializing camera".
Looks as if signal strength isn't necessarily the deciding factor then.
I'll soft reset, I bet it works then.
Edited to say: Yeah, worked fine again after the soft reset.
Hey, this is my 100th post!

I really wish that the quality of the video could be better. I realize that this is probably a problem more with the Tilt and its crappy video/camera drivers than it is with Qik.
This is something I'm really interested in though, I would like to see what some other phones look like but the qik website doesn't seem to tell you which phone recorded what.

Youtube app "cannot play video"

So I just noticed this today when I tried looking up a youtube video:
I went to the Youtube app and found a video to watch and not even a second after I clicked the video I received the following error:
"Cannot play video" "Sorry, this video cannot be played."
I hit OK and tried another. Same result. I tried about a dozen more... same.
I thought that MAYBE the Youtube Downloader app from the Market messed something up. So I uninstalled it. Same result. Rebooted my phone. Same.
Anyone have any ideas?
EDIT:
I originally had this issue over a year ago and the problem literally cleared itself back up. So for anyone still having this issue I removed the ***FIXED*** that I had on the title so you can all post your issues.
A little tip.
Please post details such as cache to sd, rom version, phone version, carrier, wifi/3G/Edge and a logcat would be helpful too.
Also list everything that you have done to try to fix the problem (wipe, cache clearing, etc.) so that you can be helped.
Thanks.

I've had the same happen to me. Seems to happen more often when I click a link from another site. When I browse in the Youtube app it seems to work more often.

carlitozway57 said:
I've had the same happen to me. Seems to happen more often when I click a link from another site. When I browse in the Youtube app it seems to work more often.
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It doesn't work at all on the Youtube app.
It doesn't work from a site either. The site just prompts me to view in the browser, steel or youtube app. Of course I don't have flash so I can't view it in the browser so my only REAL option is the app (which doesn't work).

Are you sure there wasn't a problem with Youtube's mobile site at the time you tried? I had a problem like this one night, and it was gone the next day.

I just tried it again. Still having the same problem.
Besides, if it was a problem with the site then I'm certain that more people would be experiencing this problem.

i also noticed this problem last night when trying to show this chick an airsoft video of an event i played in.... sure most have heard of it. "Operation Irene III"
it wouldnt play any videos. however, using the youtube downloader app it downloaded the video just fine. and i was able to view the video.
Just putting that out there for you guys

UPDATE:
I just tried it again to see if it would work. Most do now, although I clicked a couple that didn't. It must be a problem with Youtube and not my phone.
Phew! That's a relief.
Thanks guys.

the same thing was happening 2 me last night while i was trying 2 watch a couple of videos on youtube...

Binary100100 said:
UPDATE:
I just tried it again to see if it would work. Most do now, although I clicked a couple that didn't. It must be a problem with Youtube and not my phone.
Phew! That's a relief.
Thanks guys.
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I've seen this issue when I had network problems - for example, I had a low wifi signal and the phone was apparently switching between edge and wifi back and forth while in the middle of downloading and playing a youtube video. The error showed up in the middle of the video.
So, it may not necessarily be the youtube website or your phone, but it may have to do with the state/quality of network connection too - e.g. how many packets are dropped, and how the youtube client is able to handle it.

Just checked it out on mine. I'm not having any real problems. I will, of course, post any problems that occur when I see them.

i seemed to have this problem when i had too many apps running, a quick jump to task manager and kill unused tasks seemed to clear it up. also a reboot would clear it up, im thinking it's a memory issue.

faaque2 said:
i seemed to have this problem when i had too many apps running, a quick jump to task manager and kill unused tasks seemed to clear it up. also a reboot would clear it up, im thinking it's a memory issue.
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Nah. Tried all of that. Taskmanager, reboot, cache clear, you name it. I think it was a problem with Youtube.

spy_owl2 said:
I've seen this issue when I had network problems - for example, I had a low wifi signal and the phone was apparently switching between edge and wifi back and forth while in the middle of downloading and playing a youtube video. The error showed up in the middle of the video.
So, it may not necessarily be the youtube website or your phone, but it may have to do with the state/quality of network connection too - e.g. how many packets are dropped, and how the youtube client is able to handle it.
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Tried it on 3 (THAT'S RIGHT... THREE) different wifi networks, my 3G network and an Edge network. It wasn't a bandwidth problem.
My 3G I was averaging around 500kb/s
1st wifi was over 2000kb/s (@work)
2nd wifi was around 300kb/s (@work)
3rd wifi was about 4000kb/s (@home)
None were able to play any of the random youtube clips that I tried (which were over a dozen).
If you were wondering if I'm persistant... I am!

i have this problem too,there's a way:setting--application--manage applications,then find the youtube app and push the button"clear data".
try it~

Jimalon said:
i have this problem too,there's a way:setting--application--manage applications,then find the youtube app and push the button"clear data".
try it~
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Tried it. Didn't work. But it doesn't matter now anyway because whatever the problem was, corrected itself.
Must have been Youtube last night and this morning (2am to 7am PST)

hi
i have an asus p320 and it's sayies "cannot open video" something like that how can i fix this prob.???? can anyone give me a link to the youtube + fix plss??

Ive also had this happen, but always had thought that it was because every youtube fla encoded video might not be available on their mobile site. It seems to happen more often to me if I am trying to play a video that has been uploaded fairly recently...but I gave up on it a while back so havent checked in a while.

youtube This video cannot be played
This Problem because network firewall, I tested at home it work but my office not work, how to open firewall port for youtube app
Binary100100 said:
So I just noticed this today when I tried looking up a youtube video:
I went to the Youtube app and found a video to watch and not even a second after I clicked the video I received the following error:
"Cannot play video" "Sorry, this video cannot be played."
I hit OK and tried another. Same result. I tried about a dozen more... same.
I thought that MAYBE the Youtube Downloader app from the Market messed something up. So I uninstalled it. Same result. Rebooted my phone. Same.
Anyone have any ideas?
I searched the forum and didn't find anything so if it's posted elsewhere I didn't see it.
Last edited by Binary100100; 24th February 2009 at 06:31 AM.. Reason: Problem cleared itself up.
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well I feel rather stupid now
So I had this problem, and thought the issue was cyanogen. Turns out I was blocking some obscure process with droidwall that is critical for youtube or media player or whatever. I'm afraid I can't say which process it was, because I just went through and enabled everything that remotely looked related to the system.

update
this happens to my g1 with cyanogenmod 4.2.3 all the time. i've cleared caches, rebooted, wiped, etc
repeatable always. random, but repeatable.
any ideas xda ?

[Q] Weird issue. youtube app keeps playing wrong video!

Whenever I click to watch certain videos for example a comic video from raywilliamjohnson, the app will load the right title, description and comment section but the video being play will turn out to be something else like a cooking video or a game show.
I noticed the problem first happened one night when I marathon-watched subscription videos from raywillamjohnson on youtube app (2.0 version) After an hour, the app started to play wrong random videos. And the problem has been permanent ever since.
It seems like a cache issue and I have been trying to fix and the following is what I have done but nothing solves the problem permanently.
- I factory reset, deleted cache partition, deleted catch and data of the youtube app, formatted phone memory. Still the same.
- The problem only happens with wifi connection, 3G connection will load correct videos.
- Youtube on browser plays the videos perfectly. Problems only with app.
- The problem happened first time with the 2.0 youtube app that I updated. I tried the 2.1 app but still the same problem. Downgrading to the stock 1.6 youtube app solved the problem. Videos loaded correctly. Perfect.
- I had been happy with youtube 1.6 however, the latest firmware update from Samsung includes 2.0 youtube as stock. And the problem comes back again. I found youtube 1.6 apk from the internet and replaced the stock 2.0 with 1.6 but once I reboot the tab, it will install and replace with 2.0 youtube app. So this doesn't solve problem permanently...
- I believe this is a cache issue hidden somewhere (maybe I'm wrong?). I didn't root the tab so I tried to clear the cache and data of every running app and somehow the youtube app played videos correctly again. But I lost all other settings and this messed up the settings of the whole phone and I finally had to factory reset again... and guess what.. the problem came back :S
I'm really at loss what's going on behind the system that causes the problem.
I googled and searched the forum and seems like I'm the only one in the world with this weird issue. Please help (T.T)
Any insight is much appreciated. Thanks.

Same problem, running on an Evo 2.2. Happens for me on 3G & 4G.
My temporary fix that should work for you, is once the video starts, click the HQ button. The video will pause a moment and reload and it should be the correct video. You can then click the button again, and go back to whichever viewing mode you were at before.

I had this happen last night. Was watching a news broadcast on Youtube and all of a sudden the video switched to a hunting show, but the audio stayed the same...
Was very odd, but I didn't find a solution..

Same goes here, I have been facing this annoying problem with my "HTC Desire HD" and other devices!
I believe the latest youtube app is missed up. Also I like the previous Youtube app which I had been using on my previous device "HTC Hero" I think it was 1.6 version.
Moreover, I agree.... clicking HQ tap immediately just before the video plays will prevent it from playing different thing and taping back on HQ will plays it back as HQ I'm assuming.
Now how can I make the old version permanent even after rebooting.
I am facing this problem with three devices.
Desire HD
Acer Iconia a500
& HTC Flyer
All of them are linked to the same youtube account.
It might be a subscription issue. I think I have read it somewere.
Thank you

OMG, so this issue has been there since 28th December 2010
since it still happen to many people until now (24th Oct 2011) at lease 2 people I know just asked me about it and how to solve it.
I found a link under google's Help forum: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=06b3f1a933950603&hl=en
the only solution now is to click on the HD icon when the video starts playing, or to use the browser.
Not sure why it is taking google that long to solve it, or they are not yet aware of this issue!!!

YouTube for Android plays the SAME VIDEO no matter what I choose
Instead I see another video, I've rebooted, uninstalled, reinstalled, cleared the app's cache, data, whatever even factory data reset .. Can anyone help! Advice! Thanks

droids got hacked on youtube
yep i am also seeing this and did all things that people have done , also when you goto click on any vid you can hear a double click as it is being redirected to a different video.
Someone has hacked youtube lol
o well and it is not doing this on apply crap .

Problem still exists!
Its 2013 now, and I face this problem not just on the app but also on the browser!

dorggy said:
Its 2013 now, and I face this problem not just on the app but also on the browser!
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Try changing your default search engine to something else (android device) and or allow 3rd party cookies (windows 7). The problem is actually with your internet service provider. You can change this as well for a more perminant fix, but first test it at a friend or family's house.