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Tuma 1.5 any luck?

Any news about Tuma 1.5? we are all waiting in hope here.
Hey Tuatra, please take your time but make it quick :lol:
And Thanks a zillion for all the hard work.

khalilio said:
Hey Tuatra, please take your time but make it quick :lol:
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does that even make sense?
please lock this topic -.-

khalilio said:
Any news about Tuma 1.5? we are all waiting in hope here.
Hey Tuatra, please take your time but make it quick :lol:
And Thanks a zillion for all the hard work.
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Why not you pay his say USD1000 then maybe he might use full 8 hours a day working on the ROM.

that would equate his salary with holidays of course to roughly 300k a year?? wow i want that job... plus i would just buy a new phone and wait it out.. maybe even 2 new phones.. or something...

Actually I can understand the comments that have been showing up in the forum. I too can hardly wait for the 1.5 rom. I know Tuatara has been doing what can be done with limited resources.
The updates that Tuatara posts are good to hear. They seem to really get the people even more excited ( I am among them) to see what this next rom will really be able to do. I wish everyone could just relax, offer what assistance that can be offered, and just give Tuatara some space.
I am sure Tuatara has heard this many times.... but we all appreciate the time and thought you have put into the roms you have produced.

Or if you really can't wait buy one of these babys - http://europe.htc.com/products/tytn.php it's like sex turned into a phone. Although they don't come out till next month mind.

wschom said:
Actually I can understand the comments that have been showing up in the forum. I too can hardly wait for the 1.5 rom. I know Tuatara has been doing what can be done with limited resources.
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Yeah ... I want this next ROM myself! It sounds so good! ;-)
I've got AKU 1.1 working, and have a number of AKU 2.x elements in there (specifically the BT stack and other OS level updates), but I'm unable to merge in the AKU 2.x Push Email. This is because of the authentication system elements required, and these are unfortunately part of the boot XIP section, which (at present) I am still unable to update.
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The updates that Tuatara posts are good to hear. They seem to really get the people even more excited ( I am among them) to see what this next rom will really be able to do. I wish everyone could just relax, offer what assistance that can be offered, and just give Tuatara some space.
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It's more "time" which I need. Finding the issues, debugging the fixes, making the patches, re-flashing the device, testing the whole device again and/or running it for some time on test (battery drain, WiFi dropouts, ActiveSync, etc.) all take time. Especially when you have to "wet, lather, rinse, and repeat" ... ad nauseum.
As soon as I get to an "Alpha" stage, this ROM is on the forums ... maybe tonight or tomorrow night will be a "late night ROM session" ... and I'll see how many bugs I can fix & then get the XDA community to give it a test. That'll be the best assistance I can ask for.
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I am sure Tuatara has heard this many times.... but we all appreciate the time and thought you have put into the roms you have produced.
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Thanks ... this time I hope to make a robust "core" with TuMa v1.5, onto which any applications can then readily be installed. There will be no "extra" features automatically started - everything will be optional to enable - so that should make everyone happy.
Man ... I gotta get this ROM done. :?

and ladies and gentleman, we are now nearing the final lap...
guess i'm not the only one getting so excited by the minute... really do appreciate your passion in this one Tuatara too bad all i can do at this moment is hoist a bottle, but here's to you and to all the people working so hard, a toast with all my respect *clink*

i cant wait to try this new version of tuma 1.5
imatrix

I just can't stand without the new TuMa 1.5!!!
Hope it will be released soon... :roll:

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Any news / update on Tuma 1.5?

It's done when it's done ..
Let the guy do what has do be done..
Must think of .. how can we be alive without Tuma 1.5
When it's ready it will be released, and then u will notice it in a Thread here ..
Take your time ...

MasterMerlin said:
It's done when it's done ..
Let the guy do what has do be done..
Must think of .. how can we be alive without Tuma 1.5
When it's ready it will be released, and then u will notice it in a Thread here ..
Take your time ...
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... and also, if there are any news or updates, Tuatara will also post something here or in the other threads... guys, how about giving him the space he needs, 1.5 will be released when its finished. look at his past posts, he wants it to be perfect, well that's passion talking let's just wait for him and not bug him about it. Peace, salaam...

i'm waiting patiently. if Tuatara wants it to be perfect before releasing it, then i'm willing to wait.
cheers!

Will Tuma 1.5 have the ramdisk that some of the other roms use? This ram disk seems to be a great idea as it's faster than the storage area and ideal for non-persistant data.

Ramdisk
I hope that any support for a ram disk is optional.
I sometimes run my phone all the way down, and what I like about WM5 is that all I have to do is set the clock and everything else is fine.
If there is anything that depends on a Ramdisk (and I like Ramdisks, my computer temp file all go to a ramdisk, etc) I would rather it not be anything of substance.

That's the point siemens. Only temporary files are placed on the ram disk, they get lost when you soft-reset as well. A big benefit of this is that they auto-cleanup due to this but the major benefit IIRC is that this memory space is much faster than storing the same files in ROM. This speeds up the device. From what I understand the ROM on the BA is quite slow compared to newer devices.

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Will Tuma 1.5 have the ramdisk that some of the other roms use? This ram disk seems to be a great idea as it's faster than the storage area and ideal for non-persistant data.
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Yes ... 1.5 will have the RAMDisk present as well. I'm debating whether or not to reduce the size of the RamDisk - i.e. down to 16Mb instead of 32Mb - but I can't really see any reason to, since no applications I've tried have managed to use more than 64Mb of RAM anyways.
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I hope that any support for a ram disk is optional.
I sometimes run my phone all the way down, and what I like about WM5 is that all I have to do is set the clock and everything else is fine.
If there is anything that depends on a Ramdisk (and I like Ramdisks, my computer temp file all go to a ramdisk, etc) I would rather it not be anything of substance.
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The RamDisk won't be 'optional', since to achieve the speed improvements the OS makes extensive use of the RamDisk for all VOLATILE and TEMPORARY files it needs. While you CAN install applications onto the RamDisk, this in general is not the "best" idea, since if you run down your device you will lose those installed programs.
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That's the point siemens. Only temporary files are placed on the ram disk, they get lost when you soft-reset as well. A big benefit of this is that they auto-cleanup due to this but the major benefit IIRC is that this memory space is much faster than storing the same files in ROM. This speeds up the device. From what I understand the ROM on the BA is quite slow compared to newer devices.
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It makes a big difference in speed for sure. ROM is still slow on all devices ... especially when writing data. RAM is very fast in comparison, so it makes sense to put everything in there which isn't necessary to keep.
Anyways ... another update on TuMa v1.5 ...
It will be delayed again ... this is because my wife is now in the hospital and we're expecting our third child any moment now. While I will be at home following the birth, I'll be more often than not exhausted and tired from taking care of my other two kids 24/7 ... but who knows, I may find some time to get an Alpha together and release that.
Sorry guys ... no ROM yet ... family comes first.

hey congratulations Tuatara! do hope and pray that the delivery will be smooth.

Tuatara said:
Anyways ... another update on TuMa v1.5 ...
It will be delayed again ... this is because my wife is now in the hospital and we're expecting our third child any moment now. While I will be at home following the birth, I'll be more often than not exhausted and tired from taking care of my other two kids 24/7 ... but who knows, I may find some time to get an Alpha together and release that.
Sorry guys ... no ROM yet ... family comes first.
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Hi Tuatara,
It is a very good news.
Will you name your baby "Tuma"?
Just kidding.
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OK guys need a couple suggestions...

I'm new to the PPC world, my 8125 gets here today or tomorrow and I've been looking into programs and all that I can do to optimize my experience with it. But given I don't have the phone yet and am a total newb regarding this, I was wondering, what are the first things I need to do to improve my PPC and get software/freeware onto it? Like can I just download the apps onto the device or storage card and install them or is there something I overlooked? Just tryna figure out what to do and what NOT to do... an overall list of must-have apps (freeware or not) would be nice to have too if someone's kind enough.
Anyways, thanks a lot and I'm pretty hyped about getting the phone and playing around with it

This could be a starting point, pretty comprehensive and well organised:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/applications/128278-best-pocket-pc-freeware-starting-point.html
Rest you will figure out once you start using it. All the best.

cool, thanks for the help but i dont just want an app list, i want to know like what are the first things you should do to get ready for smooth operation, like (i still havent got this) wt is a/the ROM? is it something that doesnt come with the ppc and i gotta get it to be able to use something else? or does a stock one come with the ppc and im supposed to get a better one? stuff like that, cuz im like TOTALLY new to ppc, like i'll probably figure out most the stuff but I want to be safe first

I think you have been reading a lot about ROMS on this forum! Well ROM is nothing but the basic operating system on which the PPC runs most of the times these are customised by the operator you buy the phone from. So basic settings are there like GPRS, MMS, Homepage etc. You really don't need to worry about ROMs right now, first get the phone, play around, install 3rd party softwares and slowly you will figure out what is what. Keep reading the threads here, you will find a lot of knowledge from Gurus, but you gotta to be patient and read as much as you can. Because anything you try with ROM can be dangerous for the phone. You could even 'brick' it. You could even lose your warranty. So right now after you get the phone just toy around and have fun, forget ROM right now. And don't worry your phone is ready to run smoothly as it is.

kull said:
I think you have been reading a lot about ROMS on this forum! Well ROM is nothing but the basic operating system on which the PPC runs most of the times these are customised by the operator you buy the phone from. So basic settings are there like GPRS, MMS, Homepage etc. You really don't need to worry about ROMs right now, first get the phone, play around, install 3rd party softwares and slowly you will figure out what is what. Keep reading the threads here, you will find a lot of knowledge from Gurus, but you gotta to be patient and read as much as you can. Because anything you try with ROM can be dangerous for the phone. You could even 'brick' it. You could even lose your warranty. So right now after you get the phone just toy around and have fun, forget ROM right now. And don't worry your phone is ready to run smoothly as it is.
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cool thats wt i wanted to know and yh i was reading about ROM and about unlocking and stuff and i dunno if that is necessary or recommended, but if u say its ready to run as it is thats fine cuz i just wanna have it do wt it can do, and have a few good customizations/apps that make life easier .. well i'll continue to read though after i get the phone

kull said:
I think you have been reading a lot about ROMS on this forum! Well ROM is nothing but the basic operating system on which the PPC runs most of the times these are customised by the operator you buy the phone from. So basic settings are there like GPRS, MMS, Homepage etc. You really don't need to worry about ROMs right now, first get the phone, play around, install 3rd party softwares and slowly you will figure out what is what. Keep reading the threads here, you will find a lot of knowledge from Gurus, but you gotta to be patient and read as much as you can. Because anything you try with ROM can be dangerous for the phone. You could even 'brick' it. You could even lose your warranty. So right now after you get the phone just toy around and have fun, forget ROM right now. And don't worry your phone is ready to run smoothly as it is.
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YUP !!!
Very wise advise by Kull,the phone already comes with pre-installed OS (Rom) by the operator,you don't have to install it separately,it may be installed with the latest OS wm6,but even if it comes with a wm5 OS version Rom ,just use and enjoy it,get a grip of all the functions,it's hell of a device.
The Roms discussed here are mainly upgrades to wm6,which was launched later by Microsoft and the phones earlier came with wm5 Roms,therefore,people like to upgrade to wm6.It requires some procedures to unlock and upgrade with a risk of getting it Bricked,so it;s not advisable for you to consider it,as yet.ok
And ,of course, CONGRATS !!!

yh id rather stick with the OS it comes with for now but i was just wondering if i needed to upgrade anything to get some nice apps on it but nvm thnx a lot i think i might be gettin it today hopefully

Should I buy this phone?

I nearly bought this phone tonight before T-Mobile decided to charge me full price. I decided ebay might be a better place to buy one instead of paying 500 dollars for an iphone wannabe. It looks like a nice phone. I really like the wifi feature. I intend to use the wifi in my home as I already have wifi though out the house in use with my wifes computer and my PS3. It seemed like it would fit nice. I want to be able to surf the internet and maybe use google maps and google talk via the phone and wifi. I assume that can be done. After reading a few reviews though I put a screeching halt on my ebay bids. The phone seems to suffer from serious memory issues. Every negative review dealt with the memory or lock ups which I assume were also memory related. It appears the phone ships with a slow processor and not enough memory. I have no problems with buys a microSD card in the 2 to 4 gig range if that will solve the memory issues. I intended on buying one anyway for the application storage. Will the additional memory solve the issues with the phone? Are there updates to the phone that will correct these issues possible since many of the reviews were written? Are there currently SAFE work arounds that would correct the memory issues? I am no stranger to fooling around with this type of thing but at 300 dollars and considering that I am buying on ebay, I'm affraid i wont be in a position to gamble with the phone. If made the purchase through T-mobile I could possibly return the phone but ebay is another matter. Many of the sales are final. I dont want this phone if it requires flashing Rom's or extensive worj arounds to get the phone working.
So I will rely on your opinions on whether or not to make this purchase. If not this phone..what phone? I use t-mobile and dont want an unlocked phone so it would need to be one of their available products. I hear the MDA isnt bad. I really like the idea of a windows mobile OS as it would allow me to put darn near any app on the phone I want to. I want WIFI. I want to be able to use google talk and google maps on the phone and I really like the idea of surfing the web for free on my couch useing full functioning browsers not those mobile editions. Any recomendations if not the Hearld/Wing? Can I get the Wing to work properly and not freeze, hang up, lock up, or require constant reboots?

Point Blank you will have to change the rom on the wing in order to get some performance out of it, I switched from the MDA and the first day I got the wing I wanted my MDA back, but after changing the rom I forgot all about my big fat MDA even though The MDA has a 1250mAh battery and the wing just has a 1130mAh Batt.
If you do not want to do a rom upgraded you can take a shot at the Shadow, which has twice has much built in Memory and Storage, but its just a smartphone not a full PPC ................
also the MDA has been Dis-continued so if you buy one it will be a re-furb.

on second thought, You might just have to change the paging pool size and that should free up some Memory. and its too easy to do, and you can also delete and uninstall some files and programs you have no need for

I saw a few articles about both the rom and the page file. In your opinion, is changing the rom a wise thing to do with little to no support? I know that rom updates are risky, but on computers for example, its such a slick and easy process that there is little to no risk. Would a rom update on the wing be a wise thing to do? Is the available rom from a reputable sourse or is this something "Cody the 12 year old" made? I really want to make this wing my next phone but I dont want a 400 dollar PDA/cell phone that does neither correctly.

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I saw a few articles about both the rom and the page file. In your opinion, is changing the rom a wise thing to do with little to no support? I know that rom updates are risky, but on computers for example, its such a slick and easy process that there is little to no risk. Would a rom update on the wing be a wise thing to do? Is the available rom from a reputable sourse or is this something "Cody the 12 year old" made? I really want to make this wing my next phone but I dont want a 400 dollar PDA/cell phone that does neither correctly.
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Hi,
I have not created my own rom, but have recooked a few version of the Touch-IT v2.3 wing by itje. Recooking a rom is a long process, creating a rom would take even longer.
I've flashed my wing over 80 times now during testing new roms and recooking.
I've bricked the phone a lot of times in the process but with the orignal ruu, its no big deal.
I'm pretty sure itje and other fine rom cookers in this forum are not 12 year olds.
If you want to buy the wing then buy it and tjem read the forum and learn how to flash new roms and change page pool size.
If you want a faster and more powerful phone then buy the Kaiser.
Thanks for reading.

funny you should mention the Kaiser. I just finished reading up on that one. Thats a serious phone. It's way more phone and money then I am prepared to pony up. Is this the next best option for me?
I didnt mean any offense on the 12 year old statement. I certainly wasnt refering to anyone in particular or members of this board. I was mearly trying to imply unproven rom techniques. It sounds like there is well tested processess probably on this board for flashing the rom. It will likely be a safe process for me.
Would there be another recomendation for T-mobile if not the Kaiser or the Wing?

T-mo currently has 3 windows based devices listed which are the Wing, The Dash and The shadow, both the Dash and the shadow are smartphones and not PPC .................. since you dont want to have to unlock another device to be able to use it, I would recomend that you get the wing and while its being shipped to you read this thread about changing the Paging Pool
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324955
When you get the phone try give the 4mb Paging pool a test (thats what I use)
and if you still do not like it or just want to see how much better it is try a Rom upgraded I recomend Touch-IT wing 2.3 cooked by itje and he is not the 12 yr old that beat you in online gaming ................ you can get it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340403
The installation is VERY VERY easy, but make sure to read the instruction in the folder and if you skip a line you will brick your phone ......................... but if you do brick your phone its pretty simple to unbrick, just re-flash the official rom .................... I can't seem to find that link (or too tired to look) but if someone can post it please do, If i come home tomorrow and no one has posted a link I will upload it for you

great info. phone purchased and ill be sure to give those tips a go. thanks

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great info. phone purchased and ill be sure to give those tips a go. thanks
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Just a note. Make sure you read and then RE-READ the instructions provided with every rom. And its also a good thing to get the T-Mobile official RUU as once the phone is bricked, this is the only rom that will unbrick it. I don't want to scare you because it's actually a very easy process. I have flashed itje's rom to several of my co-workers (were all T-Mobile employees) with no unrecoverable issues.

Should I get an HTC Touch Diamond?

I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon

please read before you bother to post
this is asked all the time....
you need to take the time to read and make up your own mind
i am more than happy with my diamond
welcome to the forum

Same here happy as a dog with my Jewel.
I believe all my fellow Forum members are 100% happy of the powerful Jewel they own.
Trust us you wont be disappointed specially after a visit to the kitchen

Im happy with mine coming from a nokia n95, ok the diamond could do with a flash and a better battery.
Other than that its all good....

There are loads of posts about this dotted over the forum, granted they are a bit of a trek to find.
It all depends on what you want to use the phone for. For my needs its great. Plays music, cameras ok, the VGA screen is really really nice and I do actually like TouchFlo 3D.
Good luck with the searching, and hope you find the answers to help you decide.
And I have to say the Diamond is the best phone ive owned, and ive had a lot of mobiles and pdas in the past. Its mainly thanks to this forum for that. So many dedicated people. Thanks xda!

Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.

Jon12345 said:
Part of the reason for me leaning towards the Diamond is the existence of this forum. When I found it, I thought to myself, "Wow! Loads of help at hand, regular ROM updates, tweaks, the lot!"
Currently I have an old Sony Ericsson K750i and the joystick barely works now, so it would be a big step up.
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Well im sure it would better than the current SE phone. Heres some of the reasons why i love my diamond.
1. So many app / utils / tweaks available and very cheap to buy extra programs for it. (donations to developers are all good to!)
2. Activesyncing my phone to my pc, always been an easy task with Windows Mobile.
3. Being able to control my phone using my PC (MyMobiler - excellent little program)
4. The Small size of the phone, it really is very small! Easy to use one handed
5. Screen Quality - VGA, you wonder how you coped before!
6. Easy to transfer info to and from the phone - Activesync or Removable Drive (USB Flash drive)
7. GPS - Tomtom on your mobile, excellent! Works very well
8. 4GB Storage - Plenty of space for what i need.
There are tons more! Post would be the longest on here if i kept on talking! hehe!

Here's my 2 cents. Got my Diamond yesterday, loved it, it look so wonderful. Just bear in mind that I am coming from a Trinity with a fast ROM.
I started to play around with the phone for awhile and took me back to when Winduhs released that beta testing Vista. It looked nice and pretty but it was a pain to use after you've been using XP for a while.
Regardless of what i just said, i love the Diamond and I might keep it. It makes my Trinity looks like a monster but it lags too much as it is.

If support and constant updates/improvements is what you're looking for, you've found the right phone. This forum is above and beyond any community I've ever seen when it comes to tweaks, ROMs, and any sort of improvement you could possibly make to your device. Just make sure to read all directions and pay attention closely, a lot of these things can turn your beautiful Diamond into a $700 brick.

Mainly because it's a tool which simplifies my work/life...not a mere toy to be shown on saturday evening (any reference is casual )
But in any case those are all personal opinions, I think you should make your own considerations and evalutions of a product before to buy that or another.
Be a subject talking about an object, not viceversa

Got mine last Thursday on Vodafone... it was nice, but a little laggy, then I updated it with a cooked ROM (swiftBL I think it was) and its a little beast now! Best phone ever!
Trying to get TomTom 7 on it at the mo.
For my first WinMo (coming from a Motorola KRZR) its just superb! And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
Get one and never look back!
Please don't be a fanboy!

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And with a little READING the instructions, its pretty easy to update the ROM, add apps etc...
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Someone who reads the directions and finds it easy to do, without asking 500 times how to flash a ROM?
Edited to maintain my reputation of not being gay. Hah.

Jon12345 said:
I have read lots about the Diamond in the last couple of days with many conflicting views. But it seems like this site is full of tweaks that might actually improve the phone.
Can the users here tell me if they think I should get one and give just one reason why?
Thanks,
Jon
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If you have no problem to spend some extra money in missed calls, in general is a good toy.
THERE IS A UNSOLVED BUG WITH THE PHONE ON SCEEN BUTTONS. Every time when you receive a call and put it out of the pouch you answer or loose the call automatically. This is a bull****.

Just use the Diamond tweak tool thingy and I can see vast improvements already, you guys don't mess around huh? I want my diamond to perform, i have a bad habit of using my phone while driving, which is a bit hard to do on a touchscreen. I think my Diamond is almost there.
I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.

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I really don't want to flash this puppy, kinda scared of ruin my warranty.
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Just be cautious in whatever you do, and make sure you don't brick it... Whatever you do, as long as it's done correctly, can be reversed later on. Original SPL, original ROM, 100% warranty okay. But hey, if you're happy with the performance now, leave well enough alone. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Thanks for the heads up, I figured that if everyone is trying to get a diamond ROM why should I do anything, except for tweaking it of course.
I was surprised to see that the ROM I have on my Trinity isn't the same as the real thing. It works, and works well and that is all that matters.

Running ROM in Emulator

I have installed the SDK and Eclipse. I have created an AVD and run through the little tutorial. I can start the emulator using the (windows) command line. How do I run a "cooked" ROM in the emulator? If there is a better place to post this question, please let me know. I am particularly interested in the Hero (CDMA, Sprint).

The sdk emulator emulates an older ARMv5. I for one don't think it's very practical for developing custom roms on but it has been done before. I remember hearing a couple people saying they had Sense UI running on it. Cool but kind of pointless if you ask me. Anyways:
http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/emulator.html
has just about all the info you'll need to do it.
Speaking of emulators. I merged zen and emulator to get my name zenulator back when I messed around with console emulators for the ps1 and dreamcast. Before android took over

Zenulator,
Thanks for responding. That's exactly the page I was using. Can I simply replace userdata.img with the boot.img from the ROM? I'm just curious to see what the various ROM's will look and act like. (I do not yet have a smartphone; I've got a stupid one. My wife promised my a new phone when she upgrades hers, and the Hero looks really good to me.)

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Zenulator,
Thanks for responding. That's exactly the page I was using. Can I simply replace userdata.img with the boot.img from the ROM? I'm just curious to see what the various ROM's will look and act like. (I do not yet have a smartphone; I've got a stupid one. My wife promised my a new phone when she upgrades hers, and the Hero looks really good to me.)
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Ah I see. I'd get the evo if your planning on buying a new smart phone.
Also no you cant just swap out parts from the roms postrd in the forums since the emulator runs off a yaffs system image and also it doesn't run a boot.img. It uses a separate kernel and ramdisk.

Zenulator,
Thanks again, particularly for preventing me from wasting my time over an impossible task. One cannot help lusting over the EVO. However, I carry my phone in my pocket, and the EVO might be a bit too big for that. Furthermore, I don't really use a phone all that much, so it's hard to justify the extra expense. I have suggested to my wife that she get one.
Are there any other emulators or virtualization techniques I might use to display a ROM's function on a computer monitor? Do those guys who create the ROMs simply try them out on their own phones, or do they have software which will allow them to first test their creations on the computer? I fiddle with Linux, and have used VMWare under Windows and Linux. Took a stab at Zen once, but didn't have the right hardware.

just an idea.. It wouldnt be hands on but you could youtube the different roms and see what they look like

Furthermore, I don't really use a phone all that much, so it's hard to justify the extra expense.
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Aw man, you would sooo use your phone 300x more if you had a smart phone of any kind, though I'm partial to Android ; ) . I can't remember what i did before my first BB.... Ahhhhh the memories.
Easily justifiable expense. LOL
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I used my phone like 20 minutes total throughout the day when I had a dumbphone.
My Hero gets used and abused hours each day.

You all are preaching to the choir! I want a new phone so bad that I can taste it. I've been scouring the forums, learning as much as I can, and I can hardly wait. The Hero looks just right for me, and I'm really looking forward to using an open file system. It looks like Sprint will be dropping the Hero soon (price is going down) and replacing it with a "Hero 2," apparently essentially the same thing as the htc Legend. We'll see. Anyone heard any other news?

I probably play more on my phone than I text or talk, but don't regret paying $25 more a month than I was with MetroPCS. I can't see myself paying nearly $100 a month just for the Evo as I am on a plan by myself.
This is not completly on topic, but there is the Android OS for computers. You think I could take the kernal and ramdisk, etc from the Hero and swap it out with the ones from the Android OS
http://gadgets.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Run-Google-039-s-Android-OS-On-Your-Windows-PC-3897-01.html

&RoidRage,
Thanks for the link. I followed it out and downloaded the complete iso. I will look inside it and play with it, maybe live, maybe virtualized. It might be fun to see if some components can be swapped out, though I doubt it will work.
Dual processors running at 1.5 GHz seems overkill for a cell phone, but then, that's why we're here.

Hi all
I'm trying to load a ROM into the emulator, how can I do that ?

Kcarpenter said:
Aw man, you would sooo use your phone 300x more if you had a smart phone of any kind, though I'm partial to Android ; ) . I can't remember what i did before my first BB.... Ahhhhh the memories.
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seriously, my dumbphone was on like 20 minutes a day
and my hero is overused easily (especially in class)

how i run roms that dont have the system.img ?