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How often do you use the qwerty keyboard?

I hear some people almost never use the qwerty keyboard and just use the numkeys with t9 instead.
So, how often do you use your qwerty? Do you use it at all?

I use the keyboard a lot. If I need enter more than one word, I use the qwerty. I write many lines of notes, IM... Now I dont wait until I come to computer and reply to mails imidiately. It's really useful for me.
(Maybe you could make a poll. )

lots
I use mine everyday. Got free sms's every time i load my sim so i type a lot and spam all my m8's hehehe

moneytoo said:
I use the keyboard a lot. If I need enter more than one word, I use the qwerty. I write many lines of notes, IM... Now I dont wait until I come to computer and reply to mails imidiately. It's really useful for me.
(Maybe you could make a poll. )
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I should make a poll. Is there a way to create a poll now or is it too late?

ventipi said:
I should make a poll. Is there a way to create a poll now or is it too late?
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moneytoo said:
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Thank you, a poll is added. Let the voting begin!

Me. I hate numeric keypad with T9 - vote for keyboard! 1+

I disabled the XT9 garbage (it was so annoying with the qwerty). The keyboard is why i bought the phone.

It's good though having the phone pad for quick input. I used to have a Wizard and hated having to slide the keyboard out every time I needed to input something (I know there's a soft keyboard on PPC but they're far too fiddly!).
One other thing I like about the Wings QWERTY keyboard is that you can access most of the secondary keys by a long press instead of having to press the Fn key first. I thought it only applied to the number section but discovered by accident that it works on all keys with an alphabetical base key.
All I need to do now is work out how to map different function keys - I use '&' a lot but having to press Fn+Sym, then navigate the symbol grid is a pain.

I have same problem. I am spanish and I use spanis characters that can only be found in Symbol screen... and it takes too much time!. Any way to make shortcuts?

****ing Never
I use the Resco Keyboard Pro.

Does Resco Kb Pro works for Smartphones? I have only found it for PPC... and idea where I cand find it? How does it solve the problem?
Thanks indeed!

tintinxp said:
Does Resco Kb Pro works for Smartphones? I have only found it for PPC... and idea where I cand find it? How does it solve the problem?
Thanks indeed!
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yeah there must be a version for smartphone. Surely. Check a search. for sure.

zcink said:
yeah there must be a version for smartphone. Surely. Check a search. for sure.
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and how it's work without touchscreen ?????

dacoon said:
and how it's work without touchscreen ?????
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yeah your'e right need a ****in stylus. sorry went brain dead there.

There should be a way to redefine little blue simbols in keyboard buttons so I cand obtain spanish accent or spanish N instead of, i.e, ; or whatever.
Any other idea?
Thanks for your try, anyway...

sometimes i type fast and then the keyboard cant catch up with me. its really annoying. why cant the stupid processor not keep up with the input?? i also noticed that while im typing fast, some letters are missing.
does this happen to you too??
is there any solution?

I really didn't notice that; I am not very fast typing... my problem is that I can not type with XT9 while I am looking to the screen to ensure that the word choosen is the word that I want to writte... well, I can, but it's a very slow procerss.
This is ehy I like to writte with ABC, but having the option to input spanish characters in a fast mode ...

zcink said:
yeah your'e right need a ****in stylus.
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Is that a special kind that you insert somewhere?

Speeding up Keystroke?!

Please do not throw rocks at me. I tried searching in the forum and in google. Not sure if I'm wording it correctly. But anyway, when I'm using the QWERTY keyboard I'm having trouble w/ typing. I usually have to go by to some words and seperate them. I don't know if it's the speed of the keystroke that I should be worrying about or using more force pressing each key.
I hope I make sense.

flybitty said:
Please do not throw rocks at me. I tried searching in the forum and in google. Not sure if I'm wording it correctly. But anyway, when I'm using the QWERTY keyboard I'm having trouble w/ typing. I usually have to go by to some words and seperate them. I don't know if it's the speed of the keystroke that I should be worrying about or using more force pressing each key.
I hope I make sense.
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Are you using a stock or cooked ROM? Try disabling the word suggest and XT9 (if your ROM supports it). I still have the occasional issue with misplaced spaces or double letters, but it's very minor.

NotATreoFan said:
Are you using a stock or cooked ROM? Try disabling the word suggest and XT9 (if your ROM supports it). I still have the occasional issue with misplaced spaces or double letters, but it's very minor.
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I'm using a cooked ROM. It is a minor problem, but sometimes I don't like going back and fixing things. =/

I have a similar problem on my keyboard. The only complaint I have is that I use a clip on my Kaiser. They should have put the space bar a little bit higher because when I type I don't space so I end up writing like this..
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
My major problem is, and i'll try to explain as best as I could.
On your PC keyboard, if you press the INSERT key and you press space it'll delete any words after. When I'm typing on my TILT i go to backspace and it won't let me. It could be in IE, WORD, text messaging etc. I have to highlight what I want to delete and then press the delete button. Sometimes if i'm typing and lets say I type "Educated" but I missed the "C". If I tap in the middle with stylus and try to type in the "C" it'll delete my "A","T", depending on how many times I press a button on my keyboard. Very annoying. Any fix.

gqstatus0685 said:
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
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Same thing with mine, cooked also.

gqstatus0685 said:
I have a similar problem on my keyboard. The only complaint I have is that I use a clip on my Kaiser. They should have put the space bar a little bit higher because when I type I don't space so I end up writing like this..
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
My major problem is, and i'll try to explain as best as I could.
On your PC keyboard, if you press the INSERT key and you press space it'll delete any words after. When I'm typing on my TILT i go to backspace and it won't let me. It could be in IE, WORD, text messaging etc. I have to highlight what I want to delete and then press the delete button. Sometimes if i'm typing and lets say I type "Educated" but I missed the "C". If I tap in the middle with stylus and try to type in the "C" it'll delete my "A","T", depending on how many times I press a button on my keyboard. Very annoying. Any fix.
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Same EXACT issue. Thought I was retarded. Glad to hear that others are having the same issue.
Anyone have a a fix for this? It is EXTREMELY annoying. I'm using Dutty's April 29th 6.1 ROM.
Marc

gqstatus0685 said:
I have a similar problem on my keyboard. The only complaint I have is that I use a clip on my Kaiser. They should have put the space bar a little bit higher because when I type I don't space so I end up writing like this..
Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete.
My major problem is, and i'll try to explain as best as I could.
On your PC keyboard, if you press the INSERT key and you press space it'll delete any words after. When I'm typing on my TILT i go to backspace and it won't let me. It could be in IE, WORD, text messaging etc. I have to highlight what I want to delete and then press the delete button. Sometimes if i'm typing and lets say I type "Educated" but I missed the "C". If I tap in the middle with stylus and try to type in the "C" it'll delete my "A","T", depending on how many times I press a button on my keyboard. Very annoying. Any fix.
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OH WOW! i dont feel alone in this world! and i'm not the only one that think typing this: "Howw as yourd ay . Gets annoying because I have to go back and space and delete." Is an annoyance!!
Ok. How do we get this fixed? LOL.

It's dutty's rom. has a little issue with it, i've noticed it also.

quiksilv3r said:
It's dutty's rom. has a little issue with it, i've noticed it also.
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Its not just dutty's rom, most of the latest builds have this issue. I however, am not experiencing this any longer.

quiksilv3r said:
It's dutty's rom. has a little issue with it, i've noticed it also.
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Are you sure? Have you tried other ROM's and not experieced this "phenomenom"? If so, what other ROM's have you tried?

mviana said:
Are you sure? Have you tried other ROM's and not experieced this "phenomenom"? If so, what other ROM's have you tried?
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I started having that issue sometime after mid-april. However, over the past few days I've been trying new roms out and I noticed that Laurentius26 May 19th rom and shogunmark May 23 deathv2 beta release hasn't had this issue. Therefore, I am making the assumption that it was either caused by a program i was installing, which I am not installing anymore (However, since others have this issue I cannot base my assumption on an application I was installing), or the problem is arising because of the builds that are/were being used.
I have tried countless roms.

I just noticed that the two roms I mentioned above both use At&t 19213 build

Btw LOL @ notatreofan being all nice and everything. Lol. Put a picture of a female as your avatar if you are going to create a "redundant thread". Lol not that this is redundant. JK about that avatar thing also.
Anyway, I've had Schaps 4.31 for a while first ROM i flashed been happy with it. I have to search for those two roms and see what they include. It bugs me because I have to type slow ass hell just to make sure it's accurate. I master typing while not looking and driving at the same time. It's a buzzkill. Help anyone!

I have been having the same issue in my Tilt. Using the Apr 29th dutty rom, and upgrading to the latest may 22nd rom seemed to have helped it a great bit. although still not gone completely. And all programs that were installed on the 29th rom and the 22nd rom are the same set. So it does seem to be a rom / radio issue.

The problems with slow keystrokes is usually in ROMS that have a XT9 keypad installed, such as one of dutty's hybrid ROMs or any with the new Diamond keyboard package. If you download and install the "disable xt9" cab that is around here on some ftps and such, it will solve the problem.

Thanks mZimm. Here's the link for anyone else who is having this problem.
http://www.4shared.com/file/36879118/89dc721f/duttythroy_Disable_xt9.html?dirPwdVerified=36a07e05
Marc

mviana said:
Thanks mZimm. Here's the link for anyone else who is having this problem.
http://www.4shared.com/file/36879118/89dc721f/duttythroy_Disable_xt9.html?dirPwdVerified=36a07e05
Marc
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I've always had XT9 disabled and still confronted this problem when using particular roms. Does that cab do the trick mviana?

redbandana said:
I've always had XT9 disabled and still confronted this problem when using particular roms. Does that cab do the trick mviana?
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rebandana,
That cab worked well for me. I just typed a little in Word Mobile and sent a text message. I'll report back a little later if you'd like.
Off topic, how is that Shogunmark ROM working out for you?

thanks everyone for you help & advice! trying out the cab now. * crossing fingers * hope this works!

Is there a way to do this so i can use T9 on the Diamond Keypad but disable T9 on hardware keyboard so i don't get the space lag?
Cheers
Drew

Different sort of keyboard issue...

Hey guys. I just recently updated my Tilt to Dutty's latest wm 6.1 WWE (4/28/08) & radio 65.14.06. The problem I'm having isn't the standard tilt keyboard fix or a cleartype issue (I've seen someone post this type of question before only to have the Cleartype solve it). My problem is when i type in a document or even a sms (anything that involves the keyboard) it seems like my thumbs are moving faster than what I'm trying to type. Its rather frustrating. Here's an example since I'm typing this on my Tilt anyways:
Red foxes jumpedt he river bed only to finda wolf hiding int he bushes. He atet hem oneb y one.
Besides my lame story skills, you can see what my problem is. The really weird part is that when i do force myself to type slowly, the text will even "AutoCorrect" itself (i.e. Ate them = atet hem) to look misspelled/fractured. Also, my backspace button likes to choose not to work, turning itself into Delete when it wants to (but no other buttons are affected). Any ideas or cabs I haven't come across yet?
Also, the auto correct hardly works as it is. It won't provide apostrophes where needed.
Thanks for everything guys!

I'm not trying to yell at you, I just have a Reputation to uphold regarding this.
DISABLE XT9!!
So Search for that CAB in the File Repositories and it will fix your issue.

JimmyMcGee said:
I'm not trying to yell at you, I just have a Reputation to uphold regarding this.
DISABLE XT9!!
So Search for that CAB in the File Repositories and it will fix your issue.
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Nice color Jimmy. When someone will ask this question next time, can u use blue one please?
PS:And a bigger font size.

JimmyMcGee said:
I'm not trying to yell at you, I just have a Reputation to uphold regarding this.
DISABLE XT9!!
So Search for that CAB in the File Repositories and it will fix your issue.
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Doesn't work. No, really, I had this issue before it was installed and still have it now.

Option 1:go to setting---input---Word Completion---Clear stored entries. This will delete all the incorrect words which have been remembered by the phone. After that, try to type slowly.
Option 2: Disable the Auto Correct function
See if that helps.

Which version of HardSPL do you have installed?
Try installing one of the latest ones or see in the ROM thread which one the chef recommends.

Problems with symbol keys

Hey everyone,
I have a relatively new Tilt and some of my symbol keys do not produce the correct character... For example the "!" is @ and the "@" is !... Is there any way I can reset the keyboard or something to that effect so that my symbol keys produce the correct characters?

As far as I remember this happens when you have a normal english keyboard and flash the device with an ATT rom or vice versa. There is a keyboard fix cab that will fix that problem. Do a search on "keyboard fix".
If you're using non english languages to type, that fix will remove the ability to create special characters with the space + fn key (like ç, á, etc) so be warned.
Tony

Thank you so much, this has been driving me crazy for some time now. The fix works great.

can some one post the link to the fix, i'm having trouble to find these 200+ posts.

wenlez said:
can some one post the link to the fix, i'm having trouble to find these 200+ posts.
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Check my signature for the Kaiser FAQ its in there

oh, nvm. i got it. it works great!

How to disable capital letters after punctuation mark in SMS/E-mails?

Hi all,
I don't like the feature that a word at the beginning of a sentence will be capitalized automatically when writing an E-Mail or text message. Does anybody know how to switch that off? I know that there are some related settings in the input section, but these settings have no effect on my upper case problem.
I guess (hope) there is some registry setting. Does anybody know a solution?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: The reason why I hate this feature is that it works wrong for me. When I write an E-mail I start like:
Hello blabla,
how are you today? ...
actually the "h" will be capitalized automatically which is wrong.

haven't found one yet (although haven't looked hard). If you undo straight after the capitalization the word returns to normal (although undo is pretty hard without a Ctrl key on the hardware keyboard).

foo said:
Hi all,
I don't like the feature that a word at the beginning of a sentence will be capitalized automatically when writing an E-Mail or text message. Does anybody know how to switch that off? I know that there are some related settings in the input section, but these settings have no effect on my upper case problem.
I guess (hope) there is some registry setting. Does anybody know a solution?
Cheers,
foo
P.S.: The reason why I hate this feature is that it works wrong for me. When I write an E-mail I start like:
Hello blabla,
how are you today? ...
actually the "h" will be capitalized automatically which is wrong.
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The setting is in the soft keyboard options. Tap the little arrow next to your keyboard icon and see the options tab at the bottom.
Uncheck the box "Capitalize first letter of sentence"
This may not work on some extra keyboards/sips you install and may need immediate soft reset to make changes.

apprentice said:
Uncheck the box "Capitalize first letter of sentence"
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This setting is already unchecked but has no effect.

Did any of you guys ever manage to fix the Capitalisation issue?
I've just bought an HTC Touch Pro 2 and am having the same issue.
Checking or unchecking the box, warm reset, cold reset, nothing makes a difference.
I'm someone who IS very much bothered buy auto-capitalisation, and so would appreciate any help anyone can offer.
Cheers.

Yup, have the same problem since I got this phone last year! I searched back and forth, up and down and NOBODY knew a solution so far. And I guess, not so many are bothered by this crap either...!
Some say its windows fault... BUT even in word (windows) we can DISABLE this crap... and why is it there to UNcheck if it does not work??? So this is definately a fault... from SE or MS, I don't care... just fix it...make it work as it is suppose to (unchecking means DISABLED!!!!)!!!!!!!!!!
If you find a solution, please share here. But frankly, I don't think there is a registry solution for this. So until SE or MS are really acknowledging this and fix it, there won't be a 'real unchecking' of this crapppppp!

Unbelievable, eh?
Reading other forums on the same topic I see that people all miss the point. Some people love auto capitalisation, which is fine and fair and good for them, while others - like us - hate it. It should up to the USER to decide whether or not they want it, not the manufacturer, and not other forum users either!
I too am at a total loss to find any solution. let's keep this thread alive, and anyone who finds anything at all that might help please do post.
Thanks.

i don't have any resolution to offer. sorry.
but i am another confused end user, highly bothered by this automatic capitalization setting. i share the ineffectual setting problem.
however i do have some good news. i'm running the newest NFSFAN ROM 6.5, and the setting actually does take effect in the ROMs custom text message input field. in all other text input fields, it doesn't.
if anyone can help us, it has to be NFSFAN, NFSFAN ROM's developer.

foo said:
P.S.: The reason why I hate this feature is that it works wrong for me. When I write an E-mail I start like:
Hello blabla,
how are you today? ...
actually the "h" will be capitalized automatically which is wrong.
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Not in English and formatted like that it's not
I'm one of the ones that doesn't mind it. 99% of the time it's right for me. I always E-mail and SMS with full words no shortcuts and it saves me an extra tap when starting a new sentence, whether the new sentence follows a full stop on the same line of comes after a full stop and then I move to a new line.
It definitely wont turn off on mine either though.

Steve_TLS said:
Not in English and formatted like that it's not
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Capital letter after a comma?

orelsi said:
Capital letter after a comma?
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I did say in that format...
Right
Hello Steve,
How are....
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Hello Steve,
how are blah blah..
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It's not an English lesson, but it's right more times than it is wrong. (When typing correctly).

Got it!
Well right or wrong... I found the solution.
There are two files located in the windows directory, that are responsible for auto-capitalization:compose_sms.htm (used when composing text/sms)
compose_note.htm (used when composing email)​As the extension already indicates, these files are really html files.
You have to edit these files and remove every occurrence of the word "autocap" within. I used total commander for the job (it comes with an integrated notepad).
After I saved the files I had no more auto-capitalization. (It's not even necessary to do a reset)
P.S.: You should do a backup of the two files before editing them, just in case you mess something up.

Good job!
Pity the tick just doesn't work properly.

It's not because of the comma that you get the capital letter. It's because of the line break.
By the way.
Hello xxxxxx,
I was wondering what...
Is correct as far as I am aware. Every letter I get from anywhere has a capital letter in the first paragraph.

Matt1408 said:
It's not because of the comma that you get the capital letter. It's because of the line break.
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Yes, that's right, but there are other situations like using abbreviations (followed by a punctuation mark) in sentences where autocap fails.
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By the way.
Hello xxxxxx,
I was wondering what...
Is correct as far as I am aware. Every letter I get from anywhere has a capital letter in the first paragraph.
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The orthography varies of course in different languages. In German language it is a rule to start the first sentence lower case after a salutation followed by a comma. If I used an exclamation point, which is also valid after the salutation, I have to start the next sentence upper case.
In other words:
Hallo Herr Bla,
danke für Ihre Bla Bla...
is correct in German language but might be wrong in English language.

Thanks... YOU are THE MAN !!!
foo said:
Well right or wrong... I found the solution.
There are two files located in the windows directory, that are responsible for auto-capitalization:compose_sms.htm (used when composing text/sms)
compose_note.htm (used when composing email)​As the extension already indicates, these files are really html files.
You have to edit these files and remove every occurrence of the word "autocap" within. I used total commander for the job (it comes with an integrated notepad).
After I saved the files I had no more auto-capitalization. (It's not even necessary to do a reset)
P.S.: You should do a backup of the two files before editing them, just in case you mess something up.
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This is brilliant work! Thanks a lot and it WORKS! Just changed it and now this stupid auto cap is gone!!! Since this is a Read Only File, it should stay like that too!
Actually I don't know any language where one writes a Capital letter (except in english the 'I')! So this is just crap and an oversight from MS that this cannot be changed even though its UNchecked in settings!
This autocap was also capitalizing when just pressing the ENTER key and a new line was started, no matter if there was a Period or a Comma!!!!!
Thanks again from all of us who suffered from this...until now!

First up, as the guy who started this thread 100 years ago, my apologies for not being a part of it lately. I've been away.
Secondly, a thousand thanks to Foo for the HTML solution, which I'll try immediately.
Does this solution also stop auto full-stop (auto period in the US!) as well? No one in the thread has yet mentioned the REALLY infuriating feature: type two spaces and you automatically get a full stop and then auto captialisation as well. At least you do on my TP2!
There's certainly no harm in a healthy discussion about what is or is not correct punctuation (although this isn't really the right forum for that), but the truth is we're all free to spell and punctuate however we want, and it's not the place of any software or hardware designer to tell us how we should do that. If I choose to spell the word "Individual" with three Zs, a silent Q and a fullstop in the midle, that's my choice and the software should allow me to do so!

An hour later, and an update on my progress with Foo's HTLM fix:
The fix has eliminated Autocapitalisation after voluntary fullstops, for which a HUGE THAK YOU
However, it hasn't cured the "double-space = auto fullstop and auto capitalisation" issue. Does anyone have ideas on removing that one?
Cheers.

compse_*.htm in ROM and immutable?
I've just upgraded to an official WM6.5 release on my Touch Diamond 2, and have encountered the same annoying problem with first letter capitalization staying on despite the user visible configuration setting.
I've found the \Windows directory compose_*.htm files, with the 'autocap' flags in them .. but on my device these compose_*.htm files appear to be in ROM and immutable. I can't change their permissions to make them non-hidden and/or non-readonly, and I can't delete, edit or overwrite them.
Any ideas, or am I "Stuck" Capitalizing The First Letter Wherever Microsoft Though It Was A Good Idea? Heh.
Thanks!
Jay

foo said:
Well right or wrong... I found the solution.
There are two files located in the windows directory, that are responsible for auto-capitalization:compose_sms.htm (used when composing text/sms)
compose_note.htm (used when composing email)​As the extension already indicates, these files are really html files.
You have to edit these files and remove every occurrence of the word "autocap" within. I used total commander for the job (it comes with an integrated notepad).
After I saved the files I had no more auto-capitalization. (It's not even necessary to do a reset)
P.S.: You should do a backup of the two files before editing them, just in case you mess something up.
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This doesn't work for me. There is no data in these files that says "autocap", it's just a general template for SMS and Email messages.