I haven't checked all posts so it may have been addressed already. But, my pictures were comming out super fuzzy. And the business card ocr wasn't working. I took the back cover off and cleaned the internal lens. still no luck, then I took back cover off and tried taking a picture. And it was WOW! clean like it should be. OCR also works awesome
problem is the glass/plastic on the removable back cover, I think its plastic. I am a true cell phone user and keep the phone in my pocket, without change or keys. but the plastic rubs the cotton pocket and scratches up.
I bought the phone $600 cash from ATT store. I called att and those son of a ****** sent me to htc for the 1 yr warranty, and htc said I could buy a new cover. But the defect is theirs, if you reasonably assume that a person carries a phone in their pocket.
They should've used glass.
Can someone please take back cover off and tell me if they notice extreme difference?, like I did.
ATT has it out for me since I am a gsm charter account.
Thanks,
damthrill
With back cover ON:
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I tried like hell, took several shots to make sure the camera was steady, positioned the same place, etc....
Hope this helps.
that is a big improvement. they said you can buy another cover. would that even fix the problem if it was the cover in the first place that cause the poor quality? i dont see how putting another cover on will fix it, unless the new cover is some kind of high quality glass or something.
After playing with it......
I wonder if it is actually the plastic or if it is the amount of light that is let into the camera lens?
If you look at the back you will see that there is just a small hole... I mean just enough for the camera lens to shoot a picture. Once the back cover is OFF, it has the opportunity to take alot of light into the photo.
Maybe drilling out the plastic will allow more light to come into the picture????
But you might never know because you will drill out the plastic, which might solve the problem. But you might also be letting in more light, which might solve the problem. With a "fix" like drilling out the plastic, you can't undo what you did to test the "other" theory.... is it LIGHT or is it the PLASTIC??? Hummm.........
Look at his two pics carefully. See the distinct difference between black shade, one is really black. Also, take a look at the color of the can text, its redder. Do you think you can try taking some pics of some girls in bikinis with and w/o cover. I am just trying to say that I think the camera actually takes good pics if cover is off. I know that it makes a big difference if the optical business card reader program can all of sudden extract lots more data time and time again with cover off,
But, no one should take cover off to take pics. I just want to use what they advertised.
I can't drill cover because it would turn it into a dust collector inside.
Good work, lets try to get some more pics for referencing.
a back cover with sliding mechanism for the lens should be clearly better...
I also made a pic with and without cover. Wow, the differance!
I checked this too.
It's unbelievabla ! I was wonder my old TyTN II did better pictures.
I think we have to claim this to HTC like the video driver problem.
What's your opinion ?
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I also made a pic with and without cover. Wow, the differance!
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That's INCREDIBLE. HTC really dropped the ball on this one....ugh!!!!!
Wow. I just tried this and found that there was some dirt on the inside of the cover where the lens is. Cleaned that off and the difference is huge. I might even use my phone camera now.
That sucks. I guess we'll have to keep our covers clean.
I think the point is that clean covers or not, the cover sucks.. lol.
Someone should use this info in the htcwiki and those other petition sites.
I think next time I'll be a bit more carefull with who i buy an expensive device from, this video thing and now this camera thing (and the fact that my usb port is slightly bent, and my hard button face plate is slightly loose too) are things that should not be happening with such an expensive device.
no difference...
i've taken 2 photo's, with and without the cover, see no differences, i'd really look for another cover if i was you...
Here's an image I took with a cover. It looks pretty good to me.
Perhaps your covers are just really dirty/defective?
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i've got to say i did 3 images, 1 with cover on, straight out my pocket, 1 with cover off, 1 with cover back on, but cover removed cleaned outside and inside and also a good clean of the lense.
Once cleaned i could see no difference with the cover off or on, the one i did take with the cover on just out my pocket was very blurry, fuzzy, but when i opened the cover up, the cover and lense where full of dust etc...... i think you may have a defective cover....
i had also an issue with the bcr software. my settings were autofocus at half press of the button and then to take the pic full press.
at half press everything was sharp and when i pressed the button the af changed and the pic was not sharp.
i changed to take pic at half press, now everything works.
good luck
g-fall - i changed to take pic at half press, now everything works.
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I have to say; i just changed mine to half press and i gotta say this has improved the the focus and quality a lot, thanks for that g-fall!
If you look closely at the plastic window thats on my cover, I see micro scratches, but how did they get their? from normal use, I have never scratched glass lenses. A key chain in the pocket with phone just one time can mess up the glass lens if it keeps tapping on a glass lens. The scratches appear becuase htc used cheap plastic, so is this a defect? They don't think so, I also told the warranty lady if I could talk to an engineer, she said no. Now this auto focus at half way idea, I will try. It is unacceptable to have these problems on a $600 device, esp. when they already gutted out the inside camera, like the kaiser has 2 cameras I think?
damthrill
I still love this phone passionately
also people there is a coating on the plastic cover on the removable back. You see how looks like it has a purpleish tint to it? the camera lens cover also has this coating. I think they should have only used this coating on the camera lens cover since this coating is made to filter light I believe they are filtering to much light out hence the pictures being so much brighter when the cover is removed. HowEver you are righ that the plastic cover is cheap and scratchs way to easy I have always carried mine in the case that came with it from HTC and mine is looking pretty poor these days
Thanks for the half-press tip! That made a big difference in the quality of my pictures. I always had trouble pressing it all the way after it focused.
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yo
i dropped my kaiser this morning onto tarmac and buggered up the screen chassis and the sliding mechanism - anyone know where i can get these bits as replacement parts and how much they would cost?
cheers
fusi
slide mechanism
Go to www.cnn.cn. They have a good selection of spare parts. the entire slide mechanism is $39.95 USD. Whole new case is $79.99 USD. They are based in Hong Kong and ship all over the world. Parts show to be in stock on their website.
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
Use the link, it will take you to the Kaiser page on their website.
Cheers,
oh my god thankyou so much! now i just need to find some of the vario3 front buttons and ill be sorted!
cheers! you sir are made of win and legend!
yo had a look at that site - they dont look like htc oem casings to me :s the pictures show an extra button next to the power button and and back cover isnt the matt black you find on standard units - you sure theyre not cheap knock-offs?
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that pic gives you a bit of an idea - looks worse in real life, the metal front plate is buckled at the bottom of the screen and the buttons are all scraped - the side plastic housing has the silver paint ripped off it and the sliding mechanism is really loose now - i can push one side of it and itll move about 2-3mm up without the other side moving at all - i recall this being rather tight before i dropped it
im so kicking myself :'(
Yeah!! The TyTnII (and it is one you can tell by the front cam position) side thumbnail shows a COMM Manager button
It would mean the power button was in the wrong place?
It looks like pre-production parts? Kaiser's rear was glossy up to production release. Power button looks OK, but that's a different 2nd button for sure.
Not that this helps, but I had my big camera case on my shoulder and it somehow spun and unclipped my Kaiser in it's PDair flip case, off my hip and onto asphalt! I hear the mind-bending clatter of a $850 plastic toy bouncing.... magnet catch released..... front flap opened.... came to rest, face down..... Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
RemE said:
Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
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OH so good
Anyone know of a supplier of silicone cases for Kaisers? That would have limited damage and I am really nervous with mine as I have experienced a drop or two previously with my SP5 but come out unscathed due to a good silicone skin.
Cheers,
Joe
RemE said:
It looks like pre-production parts? Kaiser's rear was glossy up to production release. Power button looks OK, but that's a different 2nd button for sure.
Not that this helps, but I had my big camera case on my shoulder and it somehow spun and unclipped my Kaiser in it's PDair flip case, off my hip and onto asphalt! I hear the mind-bending clatter of a $850 plastic toy bouncing.... magnet catch released..... front flap opened.... came to rest, face down..... Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
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LOL wow
glad yours survived! you lucky bugger
tbh im quite amased the damage tomine literally is only the casing - i did properly step on it with all my weight and it did slide along the tarmac *CRINGE* under my full weight (bit like a skateboard - it was really rough oldy knobly tarmac too)- lord knows how i missed cracking or scratching the screen - i reckon there was some divine intervention going on somewhere - god works in mysterious ways etc - maybe this phone is blessed
mind-bneding really is appropriate - i think i nearly lost conciousness lol
joebongo said:
Anyone know of a supplier of silicone cases for Kaisers? That would have limited damage and I am really nervous with mine as I have experienced a drop or two previously with my SP5 but come out unscathed due to a good silicone skin.
Cheers,
Joe
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yea thats a good idea - i really need to invest in a decent case - im only using this utterly _CRAP_ belt pouch that came with my vario3 at the moment (which is significantly crappier than the htc beltpouch)
my mini usb connection is in shambles I found ppc techs online and the part is only 25 can anyone point me to a guide or step by step (im hoping its not too hard)
Is a bit of play in the keyboard slider normal?
I recently dropped my MDA Vario III from a height of the seat of a chair onto a wooden floor. Everything works fine and there are no scratches or anything but I'm not sure if the keyboard is now a bit looser than it was. If I press on the top or bottom right hand corners of the screen it slides in a little. Is this normal or is it fairly tight unless you push both top and bottom at once? There's about a 1mm gap on the left hand side between screen and base and if I press the X button on the screen to close an app, the screen moves down under the pressure a bit. Can anyone with a pristine Tytn II tell me if that's normal or not? I have an accidental damage policy on the phone.
Cheers,
Ashley Emery
ashmont said:
I recently dropped my MDA Vario III from a height of the seat of a chair onto a wooden floor. Everything works fine and there are no scratches or anything but I'm not sure if the keyboard is now a bit looser than it was. If I press on the top or bottom right hand corners of the screen it slides in a little. Is this normal or is it fairly tight unless you push both top and bottom at once?
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Nothing to worry about, this is normal. If you try to slide it by pushing at the very top or bottom (one corner only) it slides in a little. You can slide it out that way, but it feels less smooth than normal. To slide it properly you'll need to push a bit closer to the centre, like you'd normally do with your thumb. This way you get a nice smooth sliding action.
ashmont said:
There's about a 1mm gap on the left hand side between screen and base and if I press the X button on the screen to close an app, the screen moves down under the pressure a bit. Can anyone with a pristine Tytn II tell me if that's normal or not? I have an accidental damage policy on the phone.
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I think 1mm is a bit too much. Your screen may have been dislocated because of the drop... If you look closely at the surface of the touch screen you'll notice that every time you push on it with the stylus the screen surface "bends" slightly. This is normal. But if the entire screen assembly/frame moves and goes in as you push it, then it may have been damaged and become loose. Perhaps you can try another Kaiser in a local shop and compare.
Hope this helps someone:
My Tilt has always taken crappy photos. Photos taken with the Kaiser/Tilt that I've seen are often washed out and overly bright. Earlier today I was taking a picture, and the back fell off. I was shocked to see the amazing (in comparison to the old) picture quality. Everything was so crisp. Like going from VGA to 3.0 megapixels. So I ripped off the plastic piece that said "3.0 Megapixels" to reveal the camera's face but left the silver bezel and speaker bezel on. Attached are before and after pics.
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Note that the camera face nor that plastic piece were dirty.
Most people just take the back off so that the camera is actually protected when not in service.
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Most people just take the back off so that the camera is actually protected when not in service.
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I was have trouble taking good pictures with my Nikon D90, then one day I decided to drill holes through the lens cap.
You have no idea how this improved the picture quality.
Well, your logic fails, because lens caps aren't fixed to the lens.
Tomorrow, I am planning on shaping a piece of Lucite (which is much more durable than the cheap plastic that was) to fit in that impression on the battery cover.
This was posted a long while back but great info for those that don't realize it.
A hot soldering iron is the most effective method, IMO. That's what I used. You don't need to remove ALL of the plastic, just enough so the camera can "see".
wakka092 said:
Well, your logic fails, because lens caps aren't fixed to the lens.
Tomorrow, I am planning on shaping a piece of Lucite (which is much more durable than the cheap plastic that was) to fit in that impression on the battery cover.
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My point exactly, neither is the back cover, you take the cover off to take a photo, you put it back on when you are done, that way you don't have to take a "soldering iron " to your $500 phone.
You don't have to drill a hole, just take off the battery cover when you want better qality pictures.
Is there an echo in here?
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Sorry
-haze- said:
This was posted a long while back but great info for those that don't realize it.
A hot soldering iron is the most effective method, IMO. That's what I used. You don't need to remove ALL of the plastic, just enough so the camera can "see".
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I tried using a very, very small drill bit (1/16") but the plastic was so thin and fragile. I didn't think of that. I will try that on a piece of plexiglass to replace the old piece of plastic.
denco7 said:
My point exactly, neither is the back cover, you take the cover off to take a photo, you put it back on when you are done, that way you don't have to take a "soldering iron " to your $500 phone.
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That's a nice idea, but my back cover doesn't stay on well as-is. I don't want to exasperate the problem by repeatedly removing the cover when taking a photo.
"OMG -- I have got to take a picture of that! That is the most amazing thing I ever saw!!!!"
/puts thumb under cover, pushes up, removes cover, places cover in pocket, lifts phone up to take picture...
Too late
Seriously -- I removed that garbage piece of plastic from my phone and the results are much better, and I don't have to take the time to pop the cover off whenever I want to take a pic.
Be slow and careful prying off the chrome part, then use some good adhesive _sparingly_ to put the chrome piece back on.
You DON'T have to keep the cover in pristine condition for service -- if you have to send your phone in they will tell you specifically to _not_ send in the back cover, SIM card, battery stylus and any microSD cards.
Besides, if you really screw up, you can get a replacement cover easy enough.
Here's the results of my minor surgery...
burtcom said:
"OMG -- I have got to take a picture of that! That is the most amazing thing I ever saw!!!!"
/puts thumb under cover, pushes up, removes cover, places cover in pocket, lifts phone up to take picture...
Too late
Seriously -- I removed that garbage piece of plastic from my phone and the results are much better, and I don't have to take the time to pop the cover off whenever I want to take a pic.
Be slow and careful prying off the chrome part, then use some good adhesive _sparingly_ to put the chrome piece back on.
You DON'T have to keep the cover in pristine condition for service -- if you have to send your phone in they will tell you specifically to _not_ send in the back cover, SIM card, battery stylus and any microSD cards.
Besides, if you really screw up, you can get a replacement cover easy enough.
Here's the results of my minor surgery...
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Wow I didn't realize that taking the cover off takes other people 10 minutes. Mine can come off during that small delay after hitting the camera button.
Perhaps because mine is newer -- it takes some effort to pop it off.
And I don't want to keep doing it and risk breaking the tabs on the cover.
Better to remove the clear plastic once and be done with it -- trust me
thanx,people for very useful thread.
Having just attempted the open surgery option (i.e. taking the chrome bit off carefully) and making a pigs ear of it, I can now recommend the laparoscopic approach instead (i.e. the soldering iron). Or alternatively heating a very small phillips head screwdriver with a lighter. I ended up putting the 'glass' bit back in and doing this because mine was white underneath and looked crap. The small hole in the 'glass' is much less noticeable.
Can't believe the difference in quality of the pics. Although I am slightly concerned that I'm much more likely to get dust and moisture into my PDA now. Time will tell I guess....
wakka092 said:
I tried using a very, very small drill bit (1/16") but the plastic was so thin and fragile. I didn't think of that. I will try that on a piece of plexiglass to replace the old piece of plastic.
That's a nice idea, but my back cover doesn't stay on well as-is. I don't want to exasperate the problem by repeatedly removing the cover when taking a photo.
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When you buy an extended life battery on ebay it comes with a new back for your phone that has just a hole with no plexiglass. This fixes 2 problems.
I used some plastic polish and cleaned up the that piece of transparent plastic. Over time it gets banged up. Polishing it helped a bunch. Still not as good as removing the cover.
Having the lens exposed to dust and other crap doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Once the lens gets messed up there isn't much you can do. So drilling a hole or removing the plastic isn't a good alternative to removing the cover.
Replacing the transparent plastic with a lens cover of some sort would be a good mod. Something that can be removed or opened.
Hey Everyone!
Anyway I posted this at another forum, and I decided that I should post it here to. This community has done so much for me, I have been lurking around here a bit and decided to give back. Here you go :
Note 1 : Click on images for full size
Installation Tips
Installation on this skin, like all skins, is fairly hard. Here are some great tips that really helped me move the proccess along.
1) Using an exacto-knife (or even better a model knife), cut the top piece near the earphone and the bezel piece into two. I guarantee you this will help GREATLY!
2) Do the same on the face buttons, and the bottom bezel. Here is an illustration :
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3) Palm technique: This is a well-know technique among people who use skins often. On skins, corners often don't stick down. So what do you is wait a couple of minutes, usually 5, then using the palm of your hand press down on the corner and hold it for 30 seconds. The corner usually goes down, if not wait a bit more for the solution to dry then try it again. It is extremely useful for area's that just won't stick down.
4)Another thing that helped me, was get a deck of cards and tape them together. Put your phone on the top and apply the skin then. This helps to make sure your skin doesn't skin to the table.
5) The last thing is never, ever apply your skin over a paper towel, since the dust from it can stick to your skin. And make sure no dust gets under the protector because it is a huge pain to perfectionists like me.
Install
The back and sides are the easiest to do. The back went on in under 15 minutes, the only thing you need to do is make sure you do the palm technique (Tip 4) and the corners easily go down. What I did is I applied the back and waited for 5 minutes for the solution to dry up a bit, then put the corners down.
For the front, do the screen first. It will help you determine the lines where the top and bottom piece should go. Make sure the screen is on centre, because mine floated off and made an area where dust builds up, and it really ticks me off.
Make sure that everything is 100% on its right place. This skin is cut exactly for the phone, and a shift in a couple of mm can result in major problems (I learned the hard way).
Here is a picture of some lint and dust that gathered in the gap between the screen shield and chin shield pieces (Because I mis-aligned the screen protector):
Feel
Overall, the skins feel amazing. The screen part, has a slight orange field affect, but after some use it feels amazing to the touch. Your fingers slide around well. Many people complain about the orange people, the BSE has it ever so slightly. The truth is, at first it feels kind of sticky. After a bit of time and use, it smooths out. And also, the skin feels amazing, makes the screen much more tactile and feel great. It also prevents fingerprints a lot. I have been using it for a week and didn't have to wipe the phone, not once. And it doesn't distort the screen or anything.
I have a feeling they used a slightly less orange peel screen shield, because the back is more grippy. This is great, since I found the original plastic phone back very slippery, especially in hot weather and sweaty hands.
Here is the front :
Here Is the Back:
Coverage/Pieces
Many people want to know the coverage and how it compares to competitors. Well basically, the phone covers the entire front, excluding small spaces around the buttons.
The sides are fully covered except a small area around the volume controls.
They reach all the way around and meet at the top, and at the bottom where they leave an opening for the ExtUSB connector, and also a very exact cutout for the microphone :
The back is where the most exposed. The camera hole opening is quite a bit bigger than the camera itself, but its not an issue at all.
Also, the back has about a 3 mm gap between the side cover and back cover. I think while this is actually a good idea, because now there is no scare of accidentally overlapping the two pieces, and not being able to take off the back cover.
Overall I highly recommend the BestSkinsEver. They are high quality, and have an incredibly low price. I just recommend taking advantage of the deal and get 3 skins at once and get free shipping, because it is very likely you will mess up the first time. And if you don't, then you will have back ups in case the skin gets damaged.
Note 2 : To make the solution, I used a quarter of a spoon of orange Dawn dish soap, mixed with 300ml of water.
BestSkinsEver.com
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
I wish i had seen this prior to buying the shieldzone shield. The coverage is way better on best skins. Thier are many areas of my mytouch/magic that are not covered as well as with the best skins ever. Great review!!!
where can i buy this skin?
www.bestskinsever.com - this is a great skin and covers almost the whole phone - i didnt cut the top piece and it came out great...
another tip----- PATIENCE...
korndub said:
www.bestskinsever.com - this is a great skin and covers almost the whole phone - i didnt cut the top piece and it came out great...
another tip----- PATIENCE...
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You don't HAVE to cut the top, I am just saying it helped me greatly in application, and because of the quick application I got no dust under the skin as well.
what would you say about the durability of these skins?
Also, does it attract fingerprints just as badly as the original finish, or does it have some fingerprint resistant finish?
Best Skins Ever Rock!
The name says it all! I have been using these little beauties for about a year now and nothing has ever worked better. I was using a rubber cover before and I couldn't ever get the darn thing out of my pocket, or in the charging cradle. Best Skins Ever allow me to use the phone as intended without compromising the new look. Luv It!
I looked on the site and can't find one for the Magic. Did a search for all HTC and there are 7 models listed but not the one I need.
its here http://www.bestskinsever.com/servlet/the-151/T-dsh-Mobile-myTouch-3G-Skin/Detail
By any chance do you have an issue with dirt getting on the edges? I have a Bodyguardz skin on mine and for some reason it gets dirty around the edges of the whole skin.
***EDIT: I meant dirt around the edges of the screen.
I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously?
Got a piece of tape on in it here in the picture, wanted to hold in the glass shards. I'd love to get it repaired, but I contacted Nexus and LG support and it sounds like their warranty process is a hole I don't want to dig myself into, probably would end up with a too large bill due to "physical damage" and a phone no more intact than it is now. Not to mention being out a phone for weeks, how can anyone tolerate that? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to take off my nice bumper case and cover up that now uglified back with a more full coverage TPU case.
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Update: Well I'm sure many would say I'm wrong and an impact caused it, but I'm reasonably certain I know when it happened. I work on robotic equipment and was doing a calibration procedure tonight when I heard an odd crack. At first I thought it was the machine, but the sound signature was wrong and repeating the procedure didn't cause it to reoccur. I was standing straight up not leaning on anything or having any pressure against that pocket when I heard the sound. It was only later when I was heading home I noticed the odd feel of the back of the phone and discovered the crack. I figure that crack sound must have been it. Shocked me, I've never had a phone crack before, I'm very careful how I handle them. Oh, and I don't wear skinny jeans - I'm build like a defensive lineman, so relaxed fit all the way.
Some people have suggested sending the phone to LG, but they don't have any advance replacement program, and I can't afford to go without my phone for 2 weeks just to get a repair estimate. Got my Diztronic TPU case on order, frankly this is the first phone in years I haven't used one of their cases on, my mistake for thinking the phone would be well built enough that the official case would do the job. I will have to look and see if my credit card has any extended warranty program thing though.
Update 2- So it looks like the damage might be covered under my credit card purchase assurance plan, I have to get an itemized repair estimate to complete the claim though. Hopefully a local place can give me that, like heck if I'm going to send the phone to LG for 2 weeks just for that. Frankly the cost of being without a good phone for that period is worth more to me than the cost of the repair, I'd rather just wait till the part becomes available and pay for it myself. It sounds like they also do replacements if repair isn't feasible due to parts not available, etc. Although the phone isn't currently available either, so we'll see how that goes.
On another note I spoke to one of my friends last night who works for a cell carrier that has many Nexus 4s on their network. She said that 3 employees at the location she works also had cracks on their Nexus 4's in almost the exact same spot. She didn't say they were spontaneous, but clearly it is a weak area on the back of the phone. At least one of them was using a full coverage case when it broke, apparently a TPU case. Alas as regretful the thought of covering such a nice looking back panel is, those who don't have broken backs yet may want to invest in high-impact cases, simple TPU or the bumper doesn't look to be cutting it. Since mine is already broken, TPU should be good enough I suppose, mainly just want to cover up the damage.
wot that really sucks. and yah.. the speaker and the camera are the soft spots. the really bad thing is the back has a lot to it. i dont see them as being cheap. some guy managed to get a couple from lg.
wow, amazing, that looks JUST like what I would expect from impact...
CrazyPeter said:
wow, amazing, that looks JUST like what I would expect from impact...
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This happened to a guy who went to the movie theater a few weeks back. Same exact place on the phone.
Wow ...
If you search the forums there was one guy with the exact some thing... claimed he treated the phone very well and then for no reason all the glass smashed around the speaker like that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1999345&highlight=cracked+glass
OgremustCrush said:
I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously?
Got a piece of tape on in it here in the picture, wanted to hold in the glass shards. I'd love to get it repaired, but I contacted Nexus and LG support and it sounds like their warranty process is a hole I don't want to dig myself into, probably would end up with a too large bill due to "physical damage" and a phone no more intact than it is now. Not to mention being out a phone for weeks, how can anyone tolerate that? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to take off my nice bumper case and cover up that now uglified back with a more full coverage TPU case.
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Obviously impact. Nice try though. Next.
I voided my warranty.
Looks like the crack propagated from the picture's top right "corner" of the speaker opening. Assuming that it is not the result of an impact as you say, the radius of the cut out could be too tight to account for flexing of the phone.
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I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously.
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Uh, pretty sure official bumpers aren't meant to protect that. it's meant to make the phone land on its bumper edges. Not protect the phone's back or front. Only protection for that would be having your device to never touch the surface.
Not sure people should be so quick to assume it's always the result of mistreatment. The phone has problems with the glue, the glass is thin, if it separates even marginally from the back of the phone, that's enough to open the door up for cracking your glass with ease.
happened to a friend of mine as well..not as bad as this but it is happening to a lot of people
Well I'm sure many would say I'm wrong and an impact caused it, but I'm reasonably certain I know when it happened. I work on robotic equipment and was doing a calibration procedure tonight when I heard an odd crack. At first I thought it was the machine, but the sound signature was wrong and repeating the procedure didn't cause it to reoccur. I was standing straight up not leaning on anything or having any pressure against that pocket when I heard the sound. It was only later when I was heading home I noticed the odd feel of the back of the phone and discovered the crack. I figure that crack sound must have been it. Shocked me, I've never had a phone crack before, I'm very careful how I handle them.
Man that sucks. Also recall another user that had the same shattering. Assume you ate going to give Google a call? Did the other guy get a replacement for his phone?
OgremustCrush said:
I didn't drop it, didn't bang it against anything, nope-- it was just in my front pant pocket not being pressed on at all, covered by the official bumper case meant to protect it. Funny how it shattered perfectly around that speaker grill though, if there was a weak point in the glass that could cause a shatter, that would sure be the spot. Makes me wonder if anyone else has had a crack start in the same area, especially spontaneously?
Got a piece of tape on in it here in the picture, wanted to hold in the glass shards. I'd love to get it repaired, but I contacted Nexus and LG support and it sounds like their warranty process is a hole I don't want to dig myself into, probably would end up with a too large bill due to "physical damage" and a phone no more intact than it is now. Not to mention being out a phone for weeks, how can anyone tolerate that? Oh well, I guess I'll just have to take off my nice bumper case and cover up that now uglified back with a more full coverage TPU case.
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This guy has an OEM back covers, you can replace it if you want, shouldn't be too expensive.
zephiK said:
Uh, pretty sure official bumpers aren't meant to protect that. it's meant to make the phone land on its bumper edges. Not protect the phone's back or front. Only protection for that would be having your device to never touch the surface.
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Well somewhat, a bumper still protects the back by distributing an impact along the edges of the phone as long as it is from a source wide enough it does not point through that perimeter. Drop a phone with a bumper 4 feet onto a flat surface vs one without, odds are the bumper will save the first phone. As I was not whacking my pocket against sharp edges, I don't see how having a bumper vs a full case would make a difference here.
This is reminding me of a time when the back window on a what was a virtually brand new Fiat Cinquecento shattered whilst parked in my drive. Fiat replaced it under warranty as these things happen from time to time. It was a hot day, and the glass ran out of room to expand (and the seal was not fitted properly), and it just shattered, I'm wondering if the glass expands at a different rate to the rest of the phone back, when it gets warm. If this is the case, then this problem will become very common.
Point of impact.
Case closed.
Too bad it happened buddy.
Maybe a jean snap put pressure on it in a specific spot? Really unfortunate :crying:
richteralan said:
Point of impact.
Case closed.
Too bad it happened buddy.
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It that's a point of impact, it's exceedingly small, like tip of pen small.
Glass back meeeeeeeeh :silly:
Another guy wearing skinny jeans messing up his phone? j/k
I would be fairly pissed off if this happened to me, that and I'm sure 99% would just think I'm full of it.
So I bought display glass protectors that included protectors for the camera aswell.
Before applying the screen protector I noticed the factory installed screen protector. It was just barely visible and I had to google if this was a protector and that I do not break anything by removing it
So back to the camera protector. I can't really tell if there is a camera protector installed already. I couldn't find anything regarding this.
Does anybody know? I don't wanna break anything by trying to remove something that isn't there.
Thanks in advance
No, buddy, there's no camera protector. Apply it soon. I can't purchase it locally due to crappy market and already dinted. It's so tiny but i know its there. Drives me nuts.
There is indeed a factory installed cam protector just like the Note 10+
Just use a case with a raised guard around it and it will do fine.
After over 1 year there's zero damage to my 10+'s.
You may need to remove the back panel if you need to replace it but so what?
The add on cam protector isn't needed but a good case is for these Notes. They are corner hit happy and one unprotected drop is all it takes.
I too bought a 4 pack of screen protectors that came with 3 camera protectors as well figured why not right? WRONG once installed they make the flash useless as the flash hits the glass and glares out the photo horribly. No matter how perfect you get the cutout for the flash this issues still happens. I had mine on perfectly even used a lighted magnifying inspection glass to verify when I was installing it.
Same issue here. It causes too much glare when using flash
guys, really put something protective on there! loads of people reported that their camera glass broke without any big impact, including me. Samsung only offers a lenghty repair service instead of admitting their mistake. it's annoying and makes my telezoom lense almost unausable in certain light situations.
Frau Son said:
guys, really put something protective on there! loads of people reported that their camera glass broke without any big impact, including me. Samsung only offers a lenghty repair service instead of admitting their mistake. it's annoying and makes my telezoom lense almost unausable in certain light situations.
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Get a good case with a raised cam assembly guard. Jeeeesze.
blackhawk said:
Get a good case with a raised cam assembly guard. Jeeeesze.
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I had one on the day I got the phone. Didn't make a difference. Camera cracked in two places, people on Samsung Members are complaining about the same thing. Not one drop, not one time set on the table roughly. Broken just 3 days after it arrived.
Frau Son said:
I had one on the day I got the phone. Didn't make a difference. Camera cracked in two places, people on Samsung Members are complaining about the same thing. Not one drop, not one time set on the table roughly. Broken just 3 days after it arrived.
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That's not a good case! Finding a good one tough. You absolutely need a raised guard for the cam and screen.
I use the Zizo Bolt on my 10+, while I don't intentionally test it, it's survive around half a dozen drops onto concrete from 2-3 feet with zero damage.
Nillkin makes a case for the S20FE which has a sliding panel to protect the lens.
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I've purchased this on Ali express on HM lucky store.it was not easy to find with the cut out model so you won't get any blurred pictures.
blackhawk said:
Get a good case with a raised cam assembly guard.
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+1, why you would want to use a £500 phone with no case?
archipelago said:
Nillkin makes a case for the S20FE which has a sliding panel to protect the lens.
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This looks quite cool, but looks bulky -
Don1003 said:
I've purchased this on Ali express on HM lucky store.it was not easy to find with the cut out model so you won't get any blurred pictures.
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However I like the idea of adding this even with a case, Do you have a direct link to the product page..?
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b1k3rdude said:
+1, why you would want to use a £500 phone with no case?
This looks quite cool, but looks bulky -
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However I like the idea of adding this even with a case, Do you have a direct link to the product page..?
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https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKxjXJj
You still have to open and a drop while you take pictures with that case won't prevent you could drop it on a small rock with that big size glass. That's why I still prefer a protector strait on the camera. Tomorrow I have to pick up from post office and post picture afterwards with a case.
Ah so I see its just tempered glass with a film to outline the camera lens and flash, clever.
Received today. It's a aluminum Matt Finnish protector. The black is a spigen case and it's still inside the cover.
Nice, doesn't look half bad