Hope this helps someone:
My Tilt has always taken crappy photos. Photos taken with the Kaiser/Tilt that I've seen are often washed out and overly bright. Earlier today I was taking a picture, and the back fell off. I was shocked to see the amazing (in comparison to the old) picture quality. Everything was so crisp. Like going from VGA to 3.0 megapixels. So I ripped off the plastic piece that said "3.0 Megapixels" to reveal the camera's face but left the silver bezel and speaker bezel on. Attached are before and after pics.
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Before:
After:
Note that the camera face nor that plastic piece were dirty.
Most people just take the back off so that the camera is actually protected when not in service.
ChumleyEX said:
Most people just take the back off so that the camera is actually protected when not in service.
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I was have trouble taking good pictures with my Nikon D90, then one day I decided to drill holes through the lens cap.
You have no idea how this improved the picture quality.
Well, your logic fails, because lens caps aren't fixed to the lens.
Tomorrow, I am planning on shaping a piece of Lucite (which is much more durable than the cheap plastic that was) to fit in that impression on the battery cover.
This was posted a long while back but great info for those that don't realize it.
A hot soldering iron is the most effective method, IMO. That's what I used. You don't need to remove ALL of the plastic, just enough so the camera can "see".
wakka092 said:
Well, your logic fails, because lens caps aren't fixed to the lens.
Tomorrow, I am planning on shaping a piece of Lucite (which is much more durable than the cheap plastic that was) to fit in that impression on the battery cover.
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My point exactly, neither is the back cover, you take the cover off to take a photo, you put it back on when you are done, that way you don't have to take a "soldering iron " to your $500 phone.
You don't have to drill a hole, just take off the battery cover when you want better qality pictures.
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This was posted a long while back but great info for those that don't realize it.
A hot soldering iron is the most effective method, IMO. That's what I used. You don't need to remove ALL of the plastic, just enough so the camera can "see".
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I tried using a very, very small drill bit (1/16") but the plastic was so thin and fragile. I didn't think of that. I will try that on a piece of plexiglass to replace the old piece of plastic.
denco7 said:
My point exactly, neither is the back cover, you take the cover off to take a photo, you put it back on when you are done, that way you don't have to take a "soldering iron " to your $500 phone.
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That's a nice idea, but my back cover doesn't stay on well as-is. I don't want to exasperate the problem by repeatedly removing the cover when taking a photo.
"OMG -- I have got to take a picture of that! That is the most amazing thing I ever saw!!!!"
/puts thumb under cover, pushes up, removes cover, places cover in pocket, lifts phone up to take picture...
Too late
Seriously -- I removed that garbage piece of plastic from my phone and the results are much better, and I don't have to take the time to pop the cover off whenever I want to take a pic.
Be slow and careful prying off the chrome part, then use some good adhesive _sparingly_ to put the chrome piece back on.
You DON'T have to keep the cover in pristine condition for service -- if you have to send your phone in they will tell you specifically to _not_ send in the back cover, SIM card, battery stylus and any microSD cards.
Besides, if you really screw up, you can get a replacement cover easy enough.
Here's the results of my minor surgery...
burtcom said:
"OMG -- I have got to take a picture of that! That is the most amazing thing I ever saw!!!!"
/puts thumb under cover, pushes up, removes cover, places cover in pocket, lifts phone up to take picture...
Too late
Seriously -- I removed that garbage piece of plastic from my phone and the results are much better, and I don't have to take the time to pop the cover off whenever I want to take a pic.
Be slow and careful prying off the chrome part, then use some good adhesive _sparingly_ to put the chrome piece back on.
You DON'T have to keep the cover in pristine condition for service -- if you have to send your phone in they will tell you specifically to _not_ send in the back cover, SIM card, battery stylus and any microSD cards.
Besides, if you really screw up, you can get a replacement cover easy enough.
Here's the results of my minor surgery...
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Wow I didn't realize that taking the cover off takes other people 10 minutes. Mine can come off during that small delay after hitting the camera button.
Perhaps because mine is newer -- it takes some effort to pop it off.
And I don't want to keep doing it and risk breaking the tabs on the cover.
Better to remove the clear plastic once and be done with it -- trust me
thanx,people for very useful thread.
Having just attempted the open surgery option (i.e. taking the chrome bit off carefully) and making a pigs ear of it, I can now recommend the laparoscopic approach instead (i.e. the soldering iron). Or alternatively heating a very small phillips head screwdriver with a lighter. I ended up putting the 'glass' bit back in and doing this because mine was white underneath and looked crap. The small hole in the 'glass' is much less noticeable.
Can't believe the difference in quality of the pics. Although I am slightly concerned that I'm much more likely to get dust and moisture into my PDA now. Time will tell I guess....
wakka092 said:
I tried using a very, very small drill bit (1/16") but the plastic was so thin and fragile. I didn't think of that. I will try that on a piece of plexiglass to replace the old piece of plastic.
That's a nice idea, but my back cover doesn't stay on well as-is. I don't want to exasperate the problem by repeatedly removing the cover when taking a photo.
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When you buy an extended life battery on ebay it comes with a new back for your phone that has just a hole with no plexiglass. This fixes 2 problems.
I used some plastic polish and cleaned up the that piece of transparent plastic. Over time it gets banged up. Polishing it helped a bunch. Still not as good as removing the cover.
Having the lens exposed to dust and other crap doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Once the lens gets messed up there isn't much you can do. So drilling a hole or removing the plastic isn't a good alternative to removing the cover.
Replacing the transparent plastic with a lens cover of some sort would be a good mod. Something that can be removed or opened.
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yo
i dropped my kaiser this morning onto tarmac and buggered up the screen chassis and the sliding mechanism - anyone know where i can get these bits as replacement parts and how much they would cost?
cheers
fusi
slide mechanism
Go to www.cnn.cn. They have a good selection of spare parts. the entire slide mechanism is $39.95 USD. Whole new case is $79.99 USD. They are based in Hong Kong and ship all over the world. Parts show to be in stock on their website.
http://cnn.cn/shop/8925-tilt-kaiser-c-277_448.html
Use the link, it will take you to the Kaiser page on their website.
Cheers,
oh my god thankyou so much! now i just need to find some of the vario3 front buttons and ill be sorted!
cheers! you sir are made of win and legend!
yo had a look at that site - they dont look like htc oem casings to me :s the pictures show an extra button next to the power button and and back cover isnt the matt black you find on standard units - you sure theyre not cheap knock-offs?
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that pic gives you a bit of an idea - looks worse in real life, the metal front plate is buckled at the bottom of the screen and the buttons are all scraped - the side plastic housing has the silver paint ripped off it and the sliding mechanism is really loose now - i can push one side of it and itll move about 2-3mm up without the other side moving at all - i recall this being rather tight before i dropped it
im so kicking myself :'(
Yeah!! The TyTnII (and it is one you can tell by the front cam position) side thumbnail shows a COMM Manager button
It would mean the power button was in the wrong place?
It looks like pre-production parts? Kaiser's rear was glossy up to production release. Power button looks OK, but that's a different 2nd button for sure.
Not that this helps, but I had my big camera case on my shoulder and it somehow spun and unclipped my Kaiser in it's PDair flip case, off my hip and onto asphalt! I hear the mind-bending clatter of a $850 plastic toy bouncing.... magnet catch released..... front flap opened.... came to rest, face down..... Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
RemE said:
Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
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OH so good
Anyone know of a supplier of silicone cases for Kaisers? That would have limited damage and I am really nervous with mine as I have experienced a drop or two previously with my SP5 but come out unscathed due to a good silicone skin.
Cheers,
Joe
RemE said:
It looks like pre-production parts? Kaiser's rear was glossy up to production release. Power button looks OK, but that's a different 2nd button for sure.
Not that this helps, but I had my big camera case on my shoulder and it somehow spun and unclipped my Kaiser in it's PDair flip case, off my hip and onto asphalt! I hear the mind-bending clatter of a $850 plastic toy bouncing.... magnet catch released..... front flap opened.... came to rest, face down..... Not a freaking mark!!!
I went to church.
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LOL wow
glad yours survived! you lucky bugger
tbh im quite amased the damage tomine literally is only the casing - i did properly step on it with all my weight and it did slide along the tarmac *CRINGE* under my full weight (bit like a skateboard - it was really rough oldy knobly tarmac too)- lord knows how i missed cracking or scratching the screen - i reckon there was some divine intervention going on somewhere - god works in mysterious ways etc - maybe this phone is blessed
mind-bneding really is appropriate - i think i nearly lost conciousness lol
joebongo said:
Anyone know of a supplier of silicone cases for Kaisers? That would have limited damage and I am really nervous with mine as I have experienced a drop or two previously with my SP5 but come out unscathed due to a good silicone skin.
Cheers,
Joe
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yea thats a good idea - i really need to invest in a decent case - im only using this utterly _CRAP_ belt pouch that came with my vario3 at the moment (which is significantly crappier than the htc beltpouch)
my mini usb connection is in shambles I found ppc techs online and the part is only 25 can anyone point me to a guide or step by step (im hoping its not too hard)
Is a bit of play in the keyboard slider normal?
I recently dropped my MDA Vario III from a height of the seat of a chair onto a wooden floor. Everything works fine and there are no scratches or anything but I'm not sure if the keyboard is now a bit looser than it was. If I press on the top or bottom right hand corners of the screen it slides in a little. Is this normal or is it fairly tight unless you push both top and bottom at once? There's about a 1mm gap on the left hand side between screen and base and if I press the X button on the screen to close an app, the screen moves down under the pressure a bit. Can anyone with a pristine Tytn II tell me if that's normal or not? I have an accidental damage policy on the phone.
Cheers,
Ashley Emery
ashmont said:
I recently dropped my MDA Vario III from a height of the seat of a chair onto a wooden floor. Everything works fine and there are no scratches or anything but I'm not sure if the keyboard is now a bit looser than it was. If I press on the top or bottom right hand corners of the screen it slides in a little. Is this normal or is it fairly tight unless you push both top and bottom at once?
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Nothing to worry about, this is normal. If you try to slide it by pushing at the very top or bottom (one corner only) it slides in a little. You can slide it out that way, but it feels less smooth than normal. To slide it properly you'll need to push a bit closer to the centre, like you'd normally do with your thumb. This way you get a nice smooth sliding action.
ashmont said:
There's about a 1mm gap on the left hand side between screen and base and if I press the X button on the screen to close an app, the screen moves down under the pressure a bit. Can anyone with a pristine Tytn II tell me if that's normal or not? I have an accidental damage policy on the phone.
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I think 1mm is a bit too much. Your screen may have been dislocated because of the drop... If you look closely at the surface of the touch screen you'll notice that every time you push on it with the stylus the screen surface "bends" slightly. This is normal. But if the entire screen assembly/frame moves and goes in as you push it, then it may have been damaged and become loose. Perhaps you can try another Kaiser in a local shop and compare.
I haven't checked all posts so it may have been addressed already. But, my pictures were comming out super fuzzy. And the business card ocr wasn't working. I took the back cover off and cleaned the internal lens. still no luck, then I took back cover off and tried taking a picture. And it was WOW! clean like it should be. OCR also works awesome
problem is the glass/plastic on the removable back cover, I think its plastic. I am a true cell phone user and keep the phone in my pocket, without change or keys. but the plastic rubs the cotton pocket and scratches up.
I bought the phone $600 cash from ATT store. I called att and those son of a ****** sent me to htc for the 1 yr warranty, and htc said I could buy a new cover. But the defect is theirs, if you reasonably assume that a person carries a phone in their pocket.
They should've used glass.
Can someone please take back cover off and tell me if they notice extreme difference?, like I did.
ATT has it out for me since I am a gsm charter account.
Thanks,
damthrill
With back cover ON:
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With back cover OFF:
I tried like hell, took several shots to make sure the camera was steady, positioned the same place, etc....
Hope this helps.
that is a big improvement. they said you can buy another cover. would that even fix the problem if it was the cover in the first place that cause the poor quality? i dont see how putting another cover on will fix it, unless the new cover is some kind of high quality glass or something.
After playing with it......
I wonder if it is actually the plastic or if it is the amount of light that is let into the camera lens?
If you look at the back you will see that there is just a small hole... I mean just enough for the camera lens to shoot a picture. Once the back cover is OFF, it has the opportunity to take alot of light into the photo.
Maybe drilling out the plastic will allow more light to come into the picture????
But you might never know because you will drill out the plastic, which might solve the problem. But you might also be letting in more light, which might solve the problem. With a "fix" like drilling out the plastic, you can't undo what you did to test the "other" theory.... is it LIGHT or is it the PLASTIC??? Hummm.........
Look at his two pics carefully. See the distinct difference between black shade, one is really black. Also, take a look at the color of the can text, its redder. Do you think you can try taking some pics of some girls in bikinis with and w/o cover. I am just trying to say that I think the camera actually takes good pics if cover is off. I know that it makes a big difference if the optical business card reader program can all of sudden extract lots more data time and time again with cover off,
But, no one should take cover off to take pics. I just want to use what they advertised.
I can't drill cover because it would turn it into a dust collector inside.
Good work, lets try to get some more pics for referencing.
a back cover with sliding mechanism for the lens should be clearly better...
I also made a pic with and without cover. Wow, the differance!
I checked this too.
It's unbelievabla ! I was wonder my old TyTN II did better pictures.
I think we have to claim this to HTC like the video driver problem.
What's your opinion ?
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I also made a pic with and without cover. Wow, the differance!
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That's INCREDIBLE. HTC really dropped the ball on this one....ugh!!!!!
Wow. I just tried this and found that there was some dirt on the inside of the cover where the lens is. Cleaned that off and the difference is huge. I might even use my phone camera now.
That sucks. I guess we'll have to keep our covers clean.
I think the point is that clean covers or not, the cover sucks.. lol.
Someone should use this info in the htcwiki and those other petition sites.
I think next time I'll be a bit more carefull with who i buy an expensive device from, this video thing and now this camera thing (and the fact that my usb port is slightly bent, and my hard button face plate is slightly loose too) are things that should not be happening with such an expensive device.
no difference...
i've taken 2 photo's, with and without the cover, see no differences, i'd really look for another cover if i was you...
Here's an image I took with a cover. It looks pretty good to me.
Perhaps your covers are just really dirty/defective?
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i've got to say i did 3 images, 1 with cover on, straight out my pocket, 1 with cover off, 1 with cover back on, but cover removed cleaned outside and inside and also a good clean of the lense.
Once cleaned i could see no difference with the cover off or on, the one i did take with the cover on just out my pocket was very blurry, fuzzy, but when i opened the cover up, the cover and lense where full of dust etc...... i think you may have a defective cover....
i had also an issue with the bcr software. my settings were autofocus at half press of the button and then to take the pic full press.
at half press everything was sharp and when i pressed the button the af changed and the pic was not sharp.
i changed to take pic at half press, now everything works.
good luck
g-fall - i changed to take pic at half press, now everything works.
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I have to say; i just changed mine to half press and i gotta say this has improved the the focus and quality a lot, thanks for that g-fall!
If you look closely at the plastic window thats on my cover, I see micro scratches, but how did they get their? from normal use, I have never scratched glass lenses. A key chain in the pocket with phone just one time can mess up the glass lens if it keeps tapping on a glass lens. The scratches appear becuase htc used cheap plastic, so is this a defect? They don't think so, I also told the warranty lady if I could talk to an engineer, she said no. Now this auto focus at half way idea, I will try. It is unacceptable to have these problems on a $600 device, esp. when they already gutted out the inside camera, like the kaiser has 2 cameras I think?
damthrill
I still love this phone passionately
also people there is a coating on the plastic cover on the removable back. You see how looks like it has a purpleish tint to it? the camera lens cover also has this coating. I think they should have only used this coating on the camera lens cover since this coating is made to filter light I believe they are filtering to much light out hence the pictures being so much brighter when the cover is removed. HowEver you are righ that the plastic cover is cheap and scratchs way to easy I have always carried mine in the case that came with it from HTC and mine is looking pretty poor these days
Thanks for the half-press tip! That made a big difference in the quality of my pictures. I always had trouble pressing it all the way after it focused.
Hey Everyone!
Anyway I posted this at another forum, and I decided that I should post it here to. This community has done so much for me, I have been lurking around here a bit and decided to give back. Here you go :
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Installation Tips
Installation on this skin, like all skins, is fairly hard. Here are some great tips that really helped me move the proccess along.
1) Using an exacto-knife (or even better a model knife), cut the top piece near the earphone and the bezel piece into two. I guarantee you this will help GREATLY!
2) Do the same on the face buttons, and the bottom bezel. Here is an illustration :
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3) Palm technique: This is a well-know technique among people who use skins often. On skins, corners often don't stick down. So what do you is wait a couple of minutes, usually 5, then using the palm of your hand press down on the corner and hold it for 30 seconds. The corner usually goes down, if not wait a bit more for the solution to dry then try it again. It is extremely useful for area's that just won't stick down.
4)Another thing that helped me, was get a deck of cards and tape them together. Put your phone on the top and apply the skin then. This helps to make sure your skin doesn't skin to the table.
5) The last thing is never, ever apply your skin over a paper towel, since the dust from it can stick to your skin. And make sure no dust gets under the protector because it is a huge pain to perfectionists like me.
Install
The back and sides are the easiest to do. The back went on in under 15 minutes, the only thing you need to do is make sure you do the palm technique (Tip 4) and the corners easily go down. What I did is I applied the back and waited for 5 minutes for the solution to dry up a bit, then put the corners down.
For the front, do the screen first. It will help you determine the lines where the top and bottom piece should go. Make sure the screen is on centre, because mine floated off and made an area where dust builds up, and it really ticks me off.
Make sure that everything is 100% on its right place. This skin is cut exactly for the phone, and a shift in a couple of mm can result in major problems (I learned the hard way).
Here is a picture of some lint and dust that gathered in the gap between the screen shield and chin shield pieces (Because I mis-aligned the screen protector):
Feel
Overall, the skins feel amazing. The screen part, has a slight orange field affect, but after some use it feels amazing to the touch. Your fingers slide around well. Many people complain about the orange people, the BSE has it ever so slightly. The truth is, at first it feels kind of sticky. After a bit of time and use, it smooths out. And also, the skin feels amazing, makes the screen much more tactile and feel great. It also prevents fingerprints a lot. I have been using it for a week and didn't have to wipe the phone, not once. And it doesn't distort the screen or anything.
I have a feeling they used a slightly less orange peel screen shield, because the back is more grippy. This is great, since I found the original plastic phone back very slippery, especially in hot weather and sweaty hands.
Here is the front :
Here Is the Back:
Coverage/Pieces
Many people want to know the coverage and how it compares to competitors. Well basically, the phone covers the entire front, excluding small spaces around the buttons.
The sides are fully covered except a small area around the volume controls.
They reach all the way around and meet at the top, and at the bottom where they leave an opening for the ExtUSB connector, and also a very exact cutout for the microphone :
The back is where the most exposed. The camera hole opening is quite a bit bigger than the camera itself, but its not an issue at all.
Also, the back has about a 3 mm gap between the side cover and back cover. I think while this is actually a good idea, because now there is no scare of accidentally overlapping the two pieces, and not being able to take off the back cover.
Overall I highly recommend the BestSkinsEver. They are high quality, and have an incredibly low price. I just recommend taking advantage of the deal and get 3 skins at once and get free shipping, because it is very likely you will mess up the first time. And if you don't, then you will have back ups in case the skin gets damaged.
Note 2 : To make the solution, I used a quarter of a spoon of orange Dawn dish soap, mixed with 300ml of water.
BestSkinsEver.com
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
I wish i had seen this prior to buying the shieldzone shield. The coverage is way better on best skins. Thier are many areas of my mytouch/magic that are not covered as well as with the best skins ever. Great review!!!
where can i buy this skin?
www.bestskinsever.com - this is a great skin and covers almost the whole phone - i didnt cut the top piece and it came out great...
another tip----- PATIENCE...
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www.bestskinsever.com - this is a great skin and covers almost the whole phone - i didnt cut the top piece and it came out great...
another tip----- PATIENCE...
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You don't HAVE to cut the top, I am just saying it helped me greatly in application, and because of the quick application I got no dust under the skin as well.
what would you say about the durability of these skins?
Also, does it attract fingerprints just as badly as the original finish, or does it have some fingerprint resistant finish?
Best Skins Ever Rock!
The name says it all! I have been using these little beauties for about a year now and nothing has ever worked better. I was using a rubber cover before and I couldn't ever get the darn thing out of my pocket, or in the charging cradle. Best Skins Ever allow me to use the phone as intended without compromising the new look. Luv It!
I looked on the site and can't find one for the Magic. Did a search for all HTC and there are 7 models listed but not the one I need.
its here http://www.bestskinsever.com/servlet/the-151/T-dsh-Mobile-myTouch-3G-Skin/Detail
By any chance do you have an issue with dirt getting on the edges? I have a Bodyguardz skin on mine and for some reason it gets dirty around the edges of the whole skin.
***EDIT: I meant dirt around the edges of the screen.
originally made this in the original screen fix thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29363298&postcount=638
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... I'll probably just forget about it. I'm glad that this fix is working for everyone though and I definitely think it deserves it's own thread for those that don't feel like digging through 75 pages of potential fixes
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Making this, detailed step-by-step, for those who don't want to dig thru that thread (Hopefully I'm not violating any rules. If so, Mods please replace my original post with this one)
ok I think I've discover the cause of the lift.
Got a replacement due to screen lift and guess what the new one had a slight lift on the lower left.
I figure must be a loose screw, it's not as bad as the old one where the whole left side bulged out.
So I open it and found all the screws to be snug. So I unscrewed the lower left, thinking it's too tight and that's where I discover the cause.
It's not that the screws are too loose, it's that there isn't enough space between the frame & the glass. So the tighter you screw it in, the further you're pushing the screen out, causing the lift.
Here's the simple solution I came up with.
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You'll need the following:
Nexus 7 with back cover removed
Pill Blister Pack (Allergy pills from walmart shown)
Small screwdrivers
Scissors and/or knife
Sewing Needle (not pictured)
needle nose pliers OPTIONAL (for those with thick fingers)
First you need to make a hole in the blister for the screw to go thru.
Here I'm using a sewing machine like a drill press to create my hole.
Next, cut out a rectangle and use your small screwdriver (Bigger than the needle, but smaller than the screw)
This will make the hole bigger for the screw to fit. While blister is still on screwdriver, use your knife and run it around the excess plastic created by the screwdriver.
Remove the blister and trim the corners so that it'll fit in the round frame
Remove the screw from the frame and slide the blister in between the frame
Screw the screw back snug, DON'T OVER TORQUE IT!
Right away the screen lift is gone where the blister is installed. Repeat for each screw where the screen is lifting up.
Cut away the excess so you can put the cover back on
Don't cut it flush to the frame, leave a little so you can grab it and remove it if you need to.
OPTIONAL - use a flathead to push that little bit down to eliminate any chance of obstructing the back cover.
Snap the back cover back on and enjoy your flush screen.
depending on how much lift you have, you might have to use 2 or more to fill the gap. But beware, the more you add the thicker the frame will be and you might run into issues with the back cover not fitting snug.
Looks interesting, might give this a whirl later.
ya!
After receiving my replacement today only to find out it had the same problem I tried this and so far so good! I hope it stays! Thank you for this!
Awesome job :good:
Update: Failed. Spent Hour trying this. Keeps coming back just putting the case back on. Ill try again on Monday. Used same thickness plastic, then tried thinner, then tried IDE Floppy Cable (ASUS brand haha).
I am sending this back anyways. Here is my before: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jDIgiWFPgc
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Tried it with 1 on top. 2 on top. 2 on bottom (Pictured below). All 4.
I'll confirm this is still working 24 hours later and feels more solid than it did when I first took It out of the box. Thank you so much! I started the RMA process and received the links to order my replacement when I read they hold another $225 from your account until they receive the original back and determine I caused no damage. You saved me a lot of time/hassle/and money being held from me for at least 1-2 weeks.
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Yes thank you man, I tried it when you first posted it yesterday, I can vouch for the fix in this thread as i did the previous one, so happy that it is working for me and several others, it is well worth the 10-20 minutes to perform the fix.
I wish this would work on mine, but my problem is clearly related to a bad adhesive job. I'm almost tempted to re-glue it myself considering there is nothing else wrong with the thing but I'll give Google one more chance to send me a perfect one.
How about a donation link? I'd like to buy you a beer or 2 for your fix.
Wonderful job with the pictures man, they really helped. I can confirm that this works perfect for me too. I just did not but the tablet immediately feels better. No squishyness at all. With the previous fix (tightening the screws) the screen still felt squishy. Nothing now. It feels just as sturdy as the right hand side.
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_MetalHead_ said:
I wish this would work on mine, but my problem is clearly related to a bad adhesive job. I'm almost tempted to re-glue it myself considering there is nothing else wrong with the thing but I'll give Google one more chance to send me a perfect one.
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I initially thought mine may have been adhesive related.. but turns out after this fix, it really is not.
Edit: id highly suggest giving this a try, it isnt difficult, probably cannot be detected as "user modification" if you remove the makeshift washers. If you dont want to that's your call, but i think the problem is still fixable with this method.
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I initially thought mine may have been adhesive related.. but turns out after this fix, it really is not.
Edit: id highly suggest giving this a try, it isnt difficult, probably cannot be detected as "user modification" if you remove the makeshift washers. If you dont want to that's your call, but i think the problem is still fixable with this method.
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I dunno man, I can actually see underneath the glass on mine, that's how bad it is. I might give this a shot while I'm waiting for my replacement but I really don't expect it to do any good. I am happy for everybody who is finding success with this, just don't see myself being one of those lucky people.
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I dunno man, I can actually see underneath the glass on mine, that's how bad it is. I might give this a shot while I'm waiting for my replacement but I really don't expect it to do any good. I am happy for everybody who is finding success with this, just don't see myself being one of those lucky people.
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I really would give this a shot...I'm convinced the issue is not adhesive related. My tab doesn't actually have a screen lift issue... it has been making a crunching sound that i discovered is actually just the black tape/insulation that the little black foam piece is glued to. If you remove the back cover and just fiddle with that black insulation you should hear the crunching i described. I am 90% sure that the crunching sound people are reporting is really not going to affect your devices integrity at all. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on that one.
So far so good. Let's see whether it stays that way or not. The left side feel solid now
Thanks for the fix and the photos.
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I just opened up my buddy's N7 with him, and check this out. It looks like the N7 already has some type of circular washers in this spot. OP, and those of you who have done this - did your N7s have these circular washers as well, or was that space totally hollow? I couldn't tell from your pictures. I've attached pictures so you can see what I'm talking about. It doesn't look like there's room in here to add the blister pack washers you guys are talking about, unless I really have to struggle to shove them in. Is it possible some N7s were missing these washers?
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I just opened up my buddy's N7 with him, and check this out. It looks like the N7 already has some type of circular washers in this spot. OP, and those of you who have done this - did your N7s have these circular washers as well, or was that space totally hollow? I couldn't tell from your pictures. I've attached pictures so you can see what I'm talking about. It doesn't look like there's room in here to add the blister pack washers you guys are talking about, unless I really have to struggle to shove them in. Is it possible some N7s were missing these washers?
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No, those were there on all of them. Those do not come out as far as i can tell. The blister washer goes in between the black round part and the back plate where the screw enters. Its snug but it should be, this will allow you to snug up the screws and alleviate the pressure on the screen. People seem to forget that only adhesive would not cause glass to bend, it would just sit loose but not protrude upward without a force behind it.
I just did what op did and everything is working fine. Fantastic work!
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You, sir, are brilliant. I just did the fix and it seems to be holding well. I'll see how it is tomorrow but the logic behind it seems solid.
Thank you for sharing!
Performed the fix, and it seems to have fixed the problem on my friend's N7. The OP is smarter than stinking Asus! Bravo.
One minor issue on the N7 I did this on is the back doesn't seem to be completely flush with the bezel now in the area with the washers, but this beats the screen lifting.
Have people allowed enough time after performing this and rechecked their screens? Everyone was saying retorquing the screws was the fix, and it initially looked like it did help, but eventually the screen came back up.
Thanks for the fix, but to be honest all this seems to be ridiculous, there should be no defect in a product you had to pay good money for. I'm hoping a fix comes soon out of the box.
for $5 or less!
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Double sided tape (mines was about 1/32" thick)
Electrical tape
Knife (not shown)
(Since I had these already, the fix was free for me)
Open up your nexus 7
and put the tape as shown:
On the right side of the back (where the buttons are) cut about 1/4" of tape so you'll have a strip that's 1/4" wide and 1" long (the roll of tape is an inch thick)
Put your cover next to the nexus and trim the tape so that it will not touch the 'grooves' on the frame (I've marked it in red). and stick them to the back cover just below the level of the clips.
This will get rid of the 'creaks' & some of the sponginess on the right side.
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[1] This is what's cause the bulge on the left side. The border around the wifi antenna is hitting the 2nd screw. So take an knife and CAREFULLY trim it flush to the back. You don't have to trim it all, a good 1/4" will do. (note. I have a washer under the 2nd screw to fix the screen lift)
[2] the tape on the left side over the Touchscreen cable is what cause the 'creaks'. So use some Electrical tape and cover this area up. MAKE SURE NOT TO OVERLAP. You don't want any extra thickness in this area, you just want to hold down the existing tape from moving.
(I don't have any tape on mine since I don't have noise issue there)
Now on to the battery. This is what cause most of the sponginess and some of the creak on the right side. If you tap or press where the 'X' is on the back cover you'll know what I'm talking about.
Use your finger and feel where the battery ends and the wire area begins (I marked it with a blue line to show where the battery ends) This will give you an approximation on how long your double sided tape will be. From the frame to the battery.
Put your cover on top (as shown) to figure out how WIDE the tape will be. You want to leave a gap for the foam on the back cover (marked in red)
You might have to add another, smaller layer on top of your tape. If you push on your double sided tape and it goes below the frame, then you need to add that smaller piece to make it flush to the frame.
Here's a close up of what I'm talking about.
I also added a large piece (the size of the empty slot on top) from the motherboard to the top of the battery. Since the metal frame ends half way, this will make up the gap.
Put your cover on from LEFT to RIGHT (side with the buttons on last)
Now these are the spots that were giving me the most noise and sponginess, yours might be different. If you still hear a noise, note the spot and see if adding tape near that area will help.
BONUS TIP: If a game/app requires you to use it in landscape mode. First hold it in landscape mode on the right side, so that the camera is on your right instead of your left. Disable Autorotate screen to lock it in landscape mode. Now open your game/app and it'll run on the right side instead of default left.
WHY DO THIS?
Like most I had screen lift, so I did not want to put added stress on the left side of the screen.
Since the right side just have battery, I think it's also structurally more sound than the left where all the electronics are.
Also, since the processors are on the left side, it gets pretty toasty when running graphic intensive games, so holding it on the right side will keep your hands cool and allowing the heat to dissipate better/faster without your warm hands in the way.
is this dilldoe from the comic fame? and OT?
guitarofozz said:
is this dilldoe from the comic fame? and OT?
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yup, who r u on ot?
dilldoe said:
yup, who r u on ot?
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I don't do OT anymore. Reddit. But I used to love your stuff man. Haven't seen it in a while tho obviously. Anyways, did ur fix. Seems better for sure.
This is absurd, that anyone would even consider doing this after paying $249.99 or $199.99 of their hard earned cash.
Too each their own. I'm an engineering student and I completely understand the appeal of finding solutions yourself even when you can return a product. This is one of the reasons I come to xda. Thanks for the tips and pics OP.
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IceColdKila said:
This is absurd, that anyone would even consider doing this after paying $249.99 or $199.99 of their hard earned cash.
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Absurd to save yourself an RMA ticket you might need later for a GOOD reason, fix your device yourself for less than five bucks, get to root around under the hood, and all without voiding your warranty?
What's absurd is your sense of entitlement.
Will it void the warranty (provided I remove them IF I need to hand it back)?
I just got my second Nexus 7 and this one seems to have squeaking issues in bottom left (sounds like in the back case, not screen) and I was thinking of opening it up but not sure about warranty...
Jay Aristide said:
Absurd to save yourself an RMA ticket you might need later for a GOOD reason, fix your device yourself for less than five bucks, get to root around under the hood, and all without voiding your warranty?
What's absurd is your sense of entitlement.
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Entitlement? I don't think there's anything entitled about expecting to receive a product free of defects, and exchanging it if it is not.
Also, what's this about saving RMA tickets you might need later? The warranty says you get a device free of defects, not you get a limited number of RMA tickets to get your device free of defects.
I guess you could ship it out to china and wait three weeks for them to do the exact same thing for free, or DIY in 10 minutes plus the cost of some supplies that most people already have laying around the house. Most people around on XDA are do it yourselfers, get used to it
I did something very similar with 3M to mine awhile back, except I just applied it above the battery. It fixed any flex, though I think I used a bit too thick 3M, as mine has a bulge in the back cover now.
Anyway, thanks for the post. The pictures and everything make it very easy to follow.
pankomputerek said:
Will it void the warranty (provided I remove them IF I need to hand it back)?
I just got my second Nexus 7 and this one seems to have squeaking issues in bottom left (sounds like in the back case, not screen) and I was thinking of opening it up but not sure about warranty...
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opening up the back cover will not void any warranty.
nothing in this mod should void any warranty, with exception of step one, the bulge fix (which you don't have)
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Also, what's this about saving RMA tickets you might need later? The warranty says you get a device free of defects, not you get a limited number of RMA tickets to get your device free of defects.
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Manufacturers tend to cut their losses and cut you loose from the RMA process after a couple of RMAs. Usually, they do so by offering you a full refund for returning your product, but I've seen a few cases where they just say "You are abusing the RMA process and we won't service your device(s) anymore. Take it to a repair shop".
I never knew creaking was a defect considering its made out of plastic.... I would hate to be a manufacturer that had to deal with all these over exaggerated claims lol.
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