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Hi, After the soft reset comand, I removed the battery from my Wizard. After that the followin problem was appear: the phone is bringing up to the splash screen and STOP on this position.I have tried to download another Rom but the problem still is the same. My Phone is not CID unlock and before this, I cooked own rom like is writen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043 . So any idea how to wake-up my phone MDA Vario.
Ok forgive me if I'm wrong here, I don't really want to judge before I know the full story, but seems to me your brain went on strike momentarily. First rule of flashing any unofficial rom CID UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE. Anyways sorry, I just wanted to say something so it doesn't happen to you again, that said, what rom did you try to upgrade to? what rom did you try to downgrade to after that? is your device a G3 or G4?
If your device is a G3 I would recommend downgrading to this rom by xelecin
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_Wizard_1081002_108_10910_ENG_US.exe
it will ask you if you want to CID unlock your device at the start so you shouldn't need to worry about forgetting this time , if you can't connect your device to activesync just go into the bootloader (hold the camera, voice dial buttons while pressing the reset button) and once it connects run the set-up.
Oh another thing before I forget..... do some searching and read up a bit, because this is a pretty common topic on this forum, best of luck and hope everything works out ok. If not, report back.
*edit* I just noticed the thread that you linked to, I actually wasn't aware that this was possible, but anyways I think it's still much safer to CID unlock your device if possible, and another thing you might try replying in that thread if it doesn't work out since they should be more knowledgeable in the matter..... and that would help keep the forums less cluttered *edit*
Thanks, for your help, Unfortunately you are totaly right for my stupid act (again). At first i tried to solve the problem alone , but whole day I roam through this forum to find solution but I can't find the same problem like my. Maybe because of my ..... brain .Anyway I am with G3. NOW I have
IPL 1.0
SPL 2.26
GSM 01.09.11
OS 1.5.4.2
This is after this procedure http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
I tried also to download also and Molski's 2.26.10.2 AKU2.3 Rom a.k.a. 2.26.10.2 Final Edition Rom, but the problem is the same : The splash screen is running and STOP and.... nothing.
I can go to bootloader and can download new rom, but I can't start fhe phone.
Yeah I know these forums aren't the easiest in which to look for info. So you can go into the bootloader, that's good. Don't try to go to a AKU2.x rom or later, keep it under that, so no 2.26 roms at all. 105, or 108 roms should be good.
Did you try the rom from the link I provided or the one on the thread? and afterwards did it go into the phone at all? My friends MDA had a similar problem last week, caused by the same thing, though in your case I see the SPL isn't updating when you install new roms on his it was the os that wasn't updating, but as soon as I installed that rom I recommended it booted up fine, then I updated his device to molski's 2.3.
I'll check back in a few so let me know how's it going.
Here's what you need to know & if you follow these instructions your prob will be solved.
The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Wish u best of luck.
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Here's what you need to know & if you follow these instructions your prob will be solved.
The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Wish u best of luck.
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Ok, but tell me how to solve this :
"qiote"
8. Open ActiveSync, Explore and copy enablerapi.cab from your PC's C:\ (remember that's where you extracted lokiwiz to...) to you device, I don't care where.
9. Pick up your PDA, File Explorer, find the enablerapi.cab and click it.
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I don't have access to the phone explorer and phone at all.
masr1979 I have tried the rom you give me, but it look like there is some things I don't understand: When I start the exe file i have choice <continue> .Whet I type <c> 2(two) time the soft tell me <no device found> and order me to continue with copy ???. After few seconds tell me that Unlocker ..... Done!, and start HTC wizard Unlocker and NOTHING !!! Stop on this position more then 15 min. and only the led for charging on the phone is active.
Forget all about unlocking. Until you can boot the device completely it'll never work.
Try and install an official 2.x ROM on your device.
My suspicion is that you originally has a G4 device, which is bad because if you DID have a G4 you have a brick now...
Can you remember your phones old ipl/spl? for your sake I hope it wasn't something in this format 2.XX.000X.
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Can you remember your phones old ipl/spl? for your sake I hope it wasn't something in this format 2.XX.000X.
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Of course I'm not sure, but I thing it was 2.21. Anyway did you think that is posible to cook my own rom in G4? I'm totally confused.
Every time when I upload new rom I have this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32884&stc=1&d=1168184491
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...and also this is my bootloader screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32885&stc=1&d=1168184491
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Dr Puttingham said:
Forget all about unlocking. Until you can boot the device completely it'll never work.
Try and install an official 2.x ROM on your device.
My suspicion is that you originally has a G4 device, which is bad because if you DID have a G4 you have a brick now...
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Thanks, but I try to find oficial rom but without success. And very interesting thing I found.. when I start to upload new rom the soft start to check my old rom and after that tell me that i have GE (german) language, but my old was WWE ?
Is it posible some one to give me some link to official 2.x ROM but for T-mobile german language.
Well the other day I tried finding that german rom for a while.... that search was going nowhere, I saw this thread, I don't know if you might want to check into it and maybe try it out. There's mixed results apparently but who knows
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
This guide was written a long time ago. I recommend people to use this more up to date guide:
Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
I've got a lot of post behind my name, but most of my posts are answers to the same questions over and over again. It seems very hard for "noobs" to find the answer to their question quickly on the forum. I quickly wrote a little step by step tutorial for them. Hope it helps!
Suggestions or corrections are always welcome.
You want to flash your wizard, but don't know where to start. Try this:
0. First determine if you got a G3 or a G4 device. When you turn on your device from can can see you're IPL and SPL version on the screen. If you got IPL/SPL 1.xx or 2.xx you've got a G3 device. If the IPL/SPL shows 2.xx.xxx1 you've got a G4. Go to step G3.1 if you got a G3 and G4.1 if G4.
G3.1 Does you're device start normally (yes) or is it stuck on the three-colored bootloader screen (no)? YES... go to step G3.5, NO go to step G3.2
G3.2 Turn off you're device totaly. Remove the SD card and disconnect the USB cable from you're device. Turn on the device while holding the camera button. You will get into bootloader mode (3 colored screen). Connect the USB cable to the computer and you will see USB at the bottom of your screen above the left softkey (Activesync will not connect in bootloader mode, but you can flash from this screen!). If you got IPL/SPL 1.xx go to G3.3. If you got 2.xx go to G3.4
G3.3 Download button rom and flash it to your device. Your device should startup again after doing this. Go to G3.5.
G3.4 Download wizard_love rom and flash it to your device. Your device should startup again after doing this. Go to G3.5.
G3.5 Is your device CID-unlocked (note: it's not the same as SIM-unlocked!)? YES... go to step G3.7, NO OR DON'T KNOW go to step G3.6.
G3.6 Follow this great thread by Dr Puttingham: The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards. Don't skip step 17! Flash the T-Mobile 2.26 Rom! Go to step G3.8 if you got the T-Mobile rom with IPL/SPL 2.26 on your device after doing this.
NOTE: Some people seem to have problem with flashing the button rom in this step (stops at 98% with error 302). Replace button_rom with Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 and follow the rest of the steps normally when this happens!
G3.7 Download T-Mobile 2.26 rom and flash it to your device! Done? Go to step G3.8.
G3.8 You're reade to flash the AKU2, AKU3, WM6 rom of you're choise! It wasn't that hard, was it? If you still got an older OS version after flashing then you're not CID-unlocked! Go back to start!
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G4.1 Does you're device start normally (yes) or is it stuck on the three-colored bootloader screen (no)? YES... go to step G4.4, NO go to step G4.2
G4.2 Turn off you're device totaly. Remove the SD card and disconnect the USB cable from you're device. Turn on the device while holding the camera button. You will get into bootloader mode (3 colored screen). Connect the USB cable to the computer and you will see USB at the bottom of your screen above the left softkey (Activesync will not connect in bootloader mode, but you can flash from this screen!). go to G4.3
G4.3 Download wizard_love rom and flash it to your device. Your device should startup again after doing this. Go to G4.4.
G4.4 Is your device CID-unlocked (note: it's not the same as SIM-unlocked!)? YES... go to step G4.7, NO OR DON'T KNOW go to step G4.5. (note: CID-unlocking a G4 is only possible by paying for it at imei-check!)
G4.5 Download enable-rapi.zip. Transfer Cert_SPCS.cab and EnableRapi.cab to your phone. Run Cert_SPCS.cab FIRST and EnableRapi.cab SECOND. Turn your device off and on or wait 5 minutes before soft resetting. Done? Go to G4.6.
G4.6 Follow this great thread by the-equinoxe: [solution] G4 SoftSPL Flash any ROM to CID locked G4 [UPDATED] and load the softSPL on your device using his method. Make sure you take a G4 safe rom (see the thread for details). After the steps you'll have the rom of your choise on your device!
G4.7 You're reade to flash the AKU2, AKU3, WM6 rom of you're choise IF the rom DOESN'T contain IPL/SPL. AKU3 and WM6 roms normally don't contain IPL/SPL. If you want to flash an AKU2 rom, make sure you take the G4 version. If you get an error 300 (invalid update tool) while trying to flash your device look at this thread!
NOTE: If you tried to flash a G3 rom with IPL/SPL in the rom on a G4 you probably will have a bricked device! DON'T flash the new 3.08 and 3.09 IPL/SPL to your G4!
NOTE2: If you got problems flashing with softSPL: Follow this great thread by mun_rus: Solutuion found: how to flash any rom to CIDLOCKED DEVICE. If your device won't start after flashing you can use step G4.2 and G4.3 and try again. Also look at this thread by eddieitman: Faria G4 Step by step installer with instructions to make sure you did all the necessary steps!
Nice one.
One thing I've found is since the Mods split the WM6 stuff to a seperate forum a lot of noobs are in that forum and they don't see the stickies over here now (I've had a couple PM me directly asking where this Wizard Upgrading forum is at that I refer to in my posts ). So I think we need some stickies like this or something in the WM6 forum (or a sticky at the top of that forum with a pointer to this forum and maybe certain posts over here).
Nice. Maybe we should add a link in the Wiki to this...
--M
Corrected the links to wizard_love.... they didn't work.
I found this solution much better than shelltool for flashing my G4 CID-locked Wizard:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043
Shelltool can only flash the OS while using this modified RUU you can task the OS, splash screen, and the radio. Plus this modified RUU will also flash Wizards that do not bootup normally.
You can't flash a touched OS that way in a CID-locked G4.... only some 2.26 roms will work. Trying this with WM6 will go to 100%, but you're "old" OS will startup again.
Say i downgrade my phone to the T-mobile ROM but have a cingular phone...do i need to have my phone SIM unlocked to use it or since i changed ROMS it doesn't matter...
JBLaze407 said:
Say i downgrade my phone to the T-mobile ROM but have a cingular phone...do i need to have my phone SIM unlocked to use it or since i changed ROMS it doesn't matter...
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SIM Unlocking only allows you to use SIMs from a different carrier on your phone.
CID Unlocking allows you to flash different Carrier / Country roms on your phone.
If you are only CID Unlocked, you can flash Tmobile, Cingular, Qtek, etc on your phone, but your device will still connect to the same carrier that your SIM is setup for. So for me, I'm on Cingular. I flashed the TMobile 2.26 ROM and I have the complete TMobile look and feel, but my carrier and phone connection was still Cingular since thats what the SIM is for.
I always flash the TMobile 2.26 rom on my phone now before upgrading to a new custom ROM. Its more stable (IMO) than the CIngular 2.25 (at least numerous issues I used to have went away by doing this, but then the custom ROM may be really fixing that, but I like having the latest IPL/SPL for my base).
As always... YMMV
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SIM Unlocking only allows you to use SIMs from a different carrier on your phone.
CID Unlocking allows you to flash different Carrier / Country roms on your phone.
If you are only CID Unlocked, you can flash Tmobile, Cingular, Qtek, etc on your phone, but your device will still connect to the same carrier that your SIM is setup for. So for me, I'm on Cingular. I flashed the TMobile 2.26 ROM and I have the complete TMobile look and feel, but my carrier and phone connection was still Cingular since thats what the SIM is for.
I always flash the TMobile 2.26 rom on my phone now before upgrading to a new custom ROM. Its more stable (IMO) than the CIngular 2.25 (at least numerous issues I used to have went away by doing this, but then the custom ROM may be really fixing that, but I like having the latest IPL/SPL for my base).
As always... YMMV
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Thany you very much for the info...
nice work....stiky.....
could someone post the above info in wiki..... so we can redirect questions to wiki.
If I have CID-unlocked G3 T-Mobile Wizard with custom WM5 ROM installed .... why do I need to downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM before going to WM6 ?
bogdatov said:
If I have CID-unlocked G3 T-Mobile Wizard with custom WM5 ROM installed .... why do I need to downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM before going to WM6 ?
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Good question.... have you flashed T-Mobile rom before? If you haven't you will get the strong 2.26 IPL/SPL. It prevents many problems! This step is to prevent people to upgrade to WM6 with other IPL/SPL!
bogdatov said:
If I have CID-unlocked G3 T-Mobile Wizard with custom WM5 ROM installed .... why do I need to downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 ROM before going to WM6 ?
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You want to downgrade so that it cleans up things that are possibly left from a previous install. The Official ROMs have everything (IPL / SPL / OS / Radio / Extended ROM / etc). If you go straight from a custom rom to another custom rom you may find you have stuff left over because the new custom rom doesn't clean up everything. I've seen where things are left in the message queue, so you start getting pop errors about not finding something when that was on the previous ROM.
While it takes extra time, flashing back to an official rom gives you a clean base for the custom rom to work off of. Well worth it for me so I always do this. Takes an extra 15 mins or so, which is better than wasting a day chasing some issue that wouldn't have been there.
BTW: Congrats on getting your post promoted to a Sticky!
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You want to downgrade so that it cleans up things that are possibly left from a previous install. The Official ROMs have everything (IPL / SPL / OS / Radio / Extended ROM / etc). If you go straight from a custom rom to another custom rom you may find you have stuff left over because the new custom rom doesn't clean up everything. I've seen where things are left in the message queue, so you start getting pop errors about not finding something when that was on the previous ROM.
While it takes extra time, flashing back to an official rom gives you a clean base for the custom rom to work off of. Well worth it for me so I always do this. Takes an extra 15 mins or so, which is better than wasting a day chasing some issue that wouldn't have been there.
BTW: Congrats on getting your post promoted to a Sticky!
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Is it also recommended that a downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 is followed for unlocked G4 phones?
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Is it also recommended that a downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 is followed for unlocked G4 phones?
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Good question. I don't have a G4, but I'd think the same would hold true to get a stable / clean base for the new custom rom.
pdagenius said:
Is it also recommended that a downgrade to T-Mobile 2.26 is followed for unlocked G4 phones?
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NO! that rom has IPL/SPL in it. Don't try flashing this rom onto a G4! It could brick your device!
thanx a lot !
Great job vippie!
I've updated my thread to reference this.
Please update the first post
Hi Vippie,
Can you please update the first post so that when you tell people to get to the bootloader screen that Activesync will NOT connect, but if it says USB above the left softkey that it is connected? This is something I've had to tell people over and over. People see that activesync doesn't connect so they stop and don't go any further.
Thanks! And again, excellent work on this guide. I'm pointing people to this now as I like how its laid out and gives G3 and G4 info in one place (since so many newbies don't think its important to tell us what they have or anything)
BTW: Has this been put into the Wiki?
mfrazzz said:
Hi Vippie,
Can you please update the first post so that when you tell people to get to the bootloader screen that Activesync will NOT connect, but if it says USB above the left softkey that it is connected? This is something I've had to tell people over and over. People see that activesync doesn't connect so they stop and don't go any further.
Thanks! And again, excellent work on this guide. I'm pointing people to this now as I like how its laid out and gives G3 and G4 info in one place (since so many newbies don't think its important to tell us what they have or anything)
BTW: Has this been put into the Wiki?
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Good one.... updated the starting post! Thnx!
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
Essentially what you are doing is changing the Bootloader so you can install a different ROM regardless if it's signed.
USPL and HardSPL is a matter of having it done temporarely or permenantly.
USPL (temporary), is the safe route. This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL. So if you're not a big flasher, and thinking about selling your phone in the near future, then you might want to stick to this method.
HardSPL (permenant), is the only TRUE way of bricking your phone. You will flash the bootloader for good so that you can constantly flash new ROMs without having to worry about flashing your bootloader of making sure it's a signed ROM. For heavy flashers, like myself, this is the ideal route.
HardSPL is reversible, there are some threads on how to do that. If I remember correctly, you have to flash back to a Stock T-Mo ROM.
Some ROMs require HardSPL because sometimes the cooks use different methods to flash ROMs onto devices other than ActiveSync (which is needed for flashing via USPL).
For example, ttran001's Open Touch V4.0 Micro ROM flashes onto your device using your SDCard, the phone is never connected to you PC so no opertunity to USPL. If it was not HardSPL'd, the ROM would be rejected. If it was, the flash would continue flawlessly.
I hope this answers your questions, and please, if I got anything wrong, correct me.
Regards,
three4seven said:
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Oh and from what I understand, installing those cabs wont hurt your device if you dont HardSPL. I believe you can uninstall them from the "remove program" which can be found under Settings/System/Remove Programs.
Everyone's allowed a Noob question every now and then I only know all this info because I read, so im sure if you read u'll be just fine.
nKiwan, thanks for quick and throrough reply
I get a little lost with this:
nKiwan said:
This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL.
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what does that mean exactly?
perhaps I should start by asking the USPL acronym stands for - I've googled it and I couldn't find the right acronym.
From my understanding.. the only real difference (besides one uspl rom per uspl vs infinite - i'm still a little hazy on that) is that hardSPL allows for flashing outside of activesync?
thanks again... I swear I tried my best using the search function and reading
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device. This will temporarely change your bootloader so it will allow you to flash a non signed ROM, a.k.a. an "outside" ROM. USPL capable ROMs, are ROMs that you can flash using USPL, therefore, ActiveSync.
Well there are two differences I guess... HardSPL, basically, allows for flashing outside of ActiveSync; and will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device.
hardSPL.... will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
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Technically then.. I could also flash any rom as many times as I want using USPL as long as I run USPL.exe? I read the flashing guide several times. The only difference I found was that you run USPL.exe and it goes through a loader instead of just running the RUU flaser. Is that right?
i apologize once again if I am being incredibly dense.
thanks again for putting up with my n00bness
there ya go! you got it. As you become more experienced you'll start to understand the need of HardSPL.
I was once a noob myself, so i understand where u coming from . Just glad I can help.
Regards,
nkiwan - thank you so much for answering my barrage of n00b questions.
You have been a great help. I really appreciate it.
Wow I think this is the coolest thread I have read ...it is just awesome what the WWW has done for all of us and thanks for the info
Glad I can help
I can understnad the use of USPL but I would recommend the use of hard SPL if you are planning to flash multiple roms. Either way I think it is just a matter of whether or not you actually want to run the USPL everytime you want to flash a rom... Don't quote me on that.
Just to doublecheck myself....
If I use USPL method and hard reset my phone - will I have the stock rom or the flashed one?
if I understand correctly USPL will bring back the stock one after hard reset and HSPL the new one.
very sorry to ask this now..from what i get is there are 3 ways of turning ur phone from phone to super phone:
1. install .cabs
2.soft flashing
3.hard flashing???
am i rite??
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As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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I found this thread that you might find useful for the acronyms:xdasite.com/showthread.php?t=1104
Same was with me.....
three4seven said:
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Hi Brother,
Same problem with me i have also search every where but failed... no answer about Hard spl.Every body say do hard spl and search in fourm and so on. There was no proper guide what it is and how to do. i was really puzzel. Now i have come to know that axect what it is Hard Spl.
Hard Spl mean CID unlock. If you unlock CId of the phone its mean you have done Hard SPl. Without CID unlock you can not write ROM.
Thanks
Br Raja
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
Stargazer418 said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
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You can always check in the bootloader screen (the RGB screen).
Even if you have a 4.70.Yang you still need the IPL to be higher than 4 to flash custom ROMs. That is what is important.
If you ever see any of these number's change, Run the HardSPL folder again.
I posted this deep in another thread (a sticky), but I think it fits better as a new topic because it is not specific to that other thread. I'll make a note in the other thread to avoid duplicates.
Okay....
I'm absolutely new to the world of ROMs and SPL, HSPL, SSPL and USPL - but I've been doing my homework today and I've read all of the wiki links more than once.
Before diving into it and making some dumb newbie mistake, I wanted to run a couple of things by you guys.
I have the German o2 ROM 1.14.207.2 (24011) GER.
I don't want the o2 branding, but I still want it in German.
So, I want to flash RUU_BlackStone_HTC_GER_1.14.407.3_Radio_52.49a.25. 26_1.09.25.14_Ship.exe
My understanding is that since these are both stock ROMs (at least I believe they both are, right?), my stock SPL should accept the new ROM without any problems. In other words, I don't need anything like USPL. Am I correct? Or do I actually need USPL because the new ROM is not from my current vendor which is o2?
Based on what I learned reading all the info, this is what I plan to do:
Turn off my phone, remove SIM and MicroSD
Enter boot mode (tricolor screen)
connect phone via usb to WMDC (Vista 32-bit). The settings are set to ALLOW usb connections
Disable my antivirus program
Disable all power saving modes, screensavers etc.
Run the RUU Ship.exe mentioned above as administrator
Follow instructions until device reboots
So now my warranty should still be fine. If I have to send the device in for repair, to I need to put the o2 ROM back on it?
Thanks for your help (and patience) with a newbie that scared to turn his HD into a brick. I think I'll wear diapers while I'm flashing - just in case.
I'll wait for some responses before I tackle the 7 steps above.
Chris Cross said:
My understanding is that since these are both stock ROMs (at least I believe they both are, right?), my stock SPL should accept the new ROM without any problems.
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No, thats not true at all. For instance you can't flash a WWE Rom over a German Rom, although they are both stock roms. There is a country specific code (CID). The stock SPL is checking this, so its impossible to flash roms coming from another country.
I'm not sure if the stock SPL also checks the vendor/operator, but I guess it does.
Chris Cross said:
In other words, I don't need anything like USPL.
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You should just try it. The SPL will tell you whether it accepts the rom or not.
Chris Cross said:
Based on what I learned reading all the info, this is what I plan to do:
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First of all you should consider which SPL you want to use. If you really just want to flash this new rom, USPL is good for you, if you are going to change your rom more frequently then HSPL is the way to go.
Instructions on how to use this SPLs are given in the appreciate threads (with many comments of other users), so you should look them up (again).
Chris Cross said:
So now my warranty should still be fine.
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You warrany is fine, if the operator/vendor gets the device with the rom he shipped it to you (or any official upgrade provided by this operator/vendor). If you flash the official htc german rom, you might loose your warranty.
Chris Cross said:
If I have to send the device in for repair, to I need to put the o2 ROM back on it?
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Yes, normally you do.
Chris Cross said:
Thanks for your help (and patience) with a newbie that scared to turn his HD into a brick.
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If you are doing all as mentioned in the appreciate instructions nothing extraordinary should happen. I have flashed my HD for over 15 times in the last few days.
Chris Cross said:
I think I'll wear diapers while I'm flashing - just in case.
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Normally that shouldn't change anything .
Chris Cross said:
[*]connect phone via usb to WMDC (Vista 32-bit). The settings are set to ALLOW usb connections
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Read the USPL thread carefully - you have to disable allow usb connections. In vista you will probably find that you will have to downgrade the USB drivers - that is dealt with in Post 69 of the USPL thread - see also post 1 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723
apd said:
Read the USPL thread carefully - you have to disable allow usb connections. In vista you will probably find that you will have to downgrade the USB drivers - that is dealt with in Post 69 of the USPL thread - see also post 1 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723
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yes, I had read that about disabling usb connections. I just thought that if I did not need USPL then I could leave usb connections enabled and try the other german ship.exe rom. Anyway, I think might need to alter the SPL anyway.
THANK YOU ALL for your responses. They were very helpful and it is time for me to get working on it when I get home.
I will post back my results.
Well, everything worked out fine.
I ended having to use USPL because my SPL did not accept the new stock ROM (same language, but different vendor: o2 vs. non-branded).
I did have to downgrade my vista drivers for it to work. I followed all the wiki instructions and had no problems.
Thanks again for the help.
Sercurity Unlocker
Will the blackstone have to be security unlocked to flash cooked ROMs or will it be done in the HSPL?
primbcadman said:
Will the blackstone have to be security unlocked to flash cooked ROMs or will it be done in the HSPL?
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Security unlock matters for radio flashing only.
Security unlocker.
stepw said:
Security unlock matters for radio flashing only.
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thanks for reply. pity tho after bought unlocked thc touch hd will have to pay for that again just to get security unlocker, like I did for touch pro.
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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USPL and HSPL do this for you so you are able to flash a rom or radio. Read this page from wiki. It'll help you understand
Follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide on how to flash (can be found in my signature). If you intend to do a lot of flashing I'd flash HSPL as its permanent whilst USPL is temporary and you'd need to re-use it before every flash to new rom or radio
Latest HSPL can also be found in my signature
Ah excellent thank you so much.
So can I flash straight to the newest 1.56 rom from my current version which is 1.19.61.1WWE on orange?
Or is there a stage in between I would have to do.
Thanks again.
futurama said:
Ah excellent thank you so much.
So can I flash straight to the newest 1.56 rom from my current version which is 1.19.61.1WWE on orange?
Or is there a stage in between I would have to do.
Thanks again.
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Flashing from one HTC stock rom to another you don't need to use USPL or HSPL. But going to a cooked rom you do.
Answer to your query is it depends on route you take. If you go down the USPL route you'll need to follow cRaCKwHoRe's guide. Would take to long to explain and he as already done a very good tutorial on the subject. If you go down HSPL route, all you need to do is flash latest HSPL then 1.56 rom
That clears everything up. one last thing, which rom would you reccomend? I like the look of the enwer roms with WM6.
Thanks again much appreciated.
futurama said:
That clears everything up. one last thing, which rom would you reccomend? I like the look of the enwer roms with WM6.
Thanks again much appreciated.
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I'm currently testing Dutty's V3.4. His V3.3 is already released but I'd wait for the new release hopefully in a few days. Both are based on WM6.1. Alternatively their is so many good roms out there. I'd also recommend Davideuck, EnergyROM & L26_THDV2.2 (Laurentius26). All very good roms by very good cooks. Best thing would be to try each of them and make your own opinion
thanks again mate, you are a legend, Ill post tonight to let you know how it went.
futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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Does the phone really have to be unlocked before flashing a new ROM?
futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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Does the phone really have to be unlocked before flashing a new ROM? I didn`t know that
yeeehooo got it all sorted and working!
Thanks everyone involved with XDA developers.
davemazo said:
Does the phone really have to be unlocked before flashing a new ROM? I didn`t know that
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There are a few forms of unlocking but the bottom line is that you need to bypass the checking which is done in the flash process.
One way is permanat as done once no issues anymore - HSPL
Another is as and when you need - USPL.
Wiki has a walk through that needs to be upated but I thought still was useable.
Flash the new 1.56 shipped rom and then move on to cooked roms. (will help you by pass the greenscreen issue)
futurama said:
Please Help
I really am going crazy with this rom flashing stuff. I have read the wiki for 2 days.
I understand I need to CID unlock my phone before I can apply cooked roms. But after countless searches I cant find clear info on how to CID unlock my phone.
This really is a last resort, I have been rading for 2 days with no certainty of what to do next.
Thanks
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Can you tell me were you got lost in wiki so that I can correct it in a more user frinedly version.
futurama said:
yeeehooo got it all sorted and working!
Thanks everyone involved with XDA developers.
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Sorry to hijack your thread futurama but I am having the same problem. Could you let me know how you did it
Thanks HDuser. Not sure if you know where I`m up to but originally I flashed my Orange 1.19.61.1 ROM with USPL and then flashed Duttys 2.7 1.56 based ROM which has given me the green screen problem. An earlier poster suggested I flash Olinex HSPL 1.54 to cure the problem. The problem I am having now is the phone refuses to sync with the PC. I have tried Vista and XP, the PC does not hibernate or sleep or anything, the phone is set to not switch off. It will usually sync on first connection but after a few seconds it will disconnect and therefore HSPL is reporting as being disconnected.
I have tried the earlier HSPL and HSPL 1.56 (as the ROM in bootloader screen is reported as being 1.56 and SPL is 1.14). I feel I`m going round in circles and its only a matter of time before I brick the phone.
I have read and re-read the wikis but I am now just getting more and more confused.
davemazo
Look the best way to approach any problem is to go back to the roots.
Flash a stock rom, find your own stock rom and refalsh it, then take it from there.
Your post is missleading and I have no idea were to sart. One issue is your PC ist does not Hibanate, not or go into sleep mode, at the saem time you are saying that you can't sync. Sounds like you have other problems and those other problems are making you have problems with your device.
Thanks HDuser. Sorry for confusing you, but I am now totally confused myself, Basically though the phone does not sync with the PC, I have tried 2 PC`s, with Vista and XP.
But back to your point about flashing stock ROM, I have tried a link in the wiki to download the one I need which is Orange 1.19.61.1 but the link seems to be broken and I don`t know where else I can get it. It doesn`t seem to be on the Orange website or HTC.
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Can you tell me were you got lost in wiki so that I can correct it in a more user frinedly version.
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There is a part on the black stone wiki that mentions I need to CID unlock my phone. It says you need to do this before you can flash roms, I felt it wasn't clear that, all I needed to do was flash HSPL in order to allow me to put new roms on.
This is what I did.
1:Flashed HSPL olinex 1.14.
2:Flashed HSPL Olinex1.56
3:Flashed MIRI WM6.5 10.0WWE
only part I had trouble with, my phone wouldnt let me flash the HSPL at first, I had to use a manual thing that you launch on the device the it lets you flash the HSPL.
futurama said:
There is a part on the black stone wiki that mentions I need to CID unlock my phone. It says you need to do this before you can flash roms, I felt it wasn't clear that, all I needed to do was flash HSPL in order to allow me to put new roms on.
This is what I did.
1:Flashed HSPL olinex 1.14.
2:Flashed HSPL Olinex1.56
3:Flashed MIRI WM6.5 10.0WWE
only part I had trouble with, my phone wouldnt let me flash the HSPL at first, I had to use a manual thing that you launch on the device the it lets you flash the HSPL.
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It sounds as if you have it sorted now and everything working. As HDUser stated previously HSPL & USPL allows you to bypass the CID lock to enable you to flash new roms
Only thing I need clearing up, I can change my SPL back to the original version cant it?
Just incase anything goes tits up and I need to send it back
futurama said:
Only thing I need clearing up, I can change my SPL back to the original version cant it?
Just incase anything goes tits up and I need to send it back
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Of course you can. All information you need including original stock radio's, roms etc are available in wiki to download.