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HSUPA is available at my location and it would be nice for me to improove my upload speed.
I like my ROM but it doesn't support HSUPA. How to switch ON HSUPA? Kaiser Tweaks really does it
I just love it when people post questions that sound like statements to get me excited. And no, I've heard of nothing to let us do that.
blackspawn2 said:
HSUPA is available at my location and it would be nice for me to improove my upload speed.
I like my ROM but it doesn't support HSUPA. How to switch ON HSUPA? Kaiser Tweaks really does it
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I'm probably out of date with some of my figures here, but as I understand it the Kaiser limitations are 3.6Mbit/s download and 384kbit/s upload - originally designed using HSDPA chips and limited with hardware. The HSUPA upload theoretical maximum is 5.76Mbit/s, but is limited to our 384kb/s so no point pushing the boat out for this anyway.
Besides, why go for a mega fast upload speed when the Kaiser doesn't have enough memory capacity to require that sort of upload (<45 secs to dump the whole phone + 16MB card) - unless of course you've got some really good porn that you need to share in a few microseconds before deleting
I found an old 3D where was written that the chip is HSUPA compatible. Whether or not it is enabled in the phone may simply be a matter of a hack.
Well,...maybe the 3D is much too old, forget it!
i agree with peterfnet
peterfnet said:
I just love it when people post questions that sound like statements to get me excited. And no, I've heard of nothing to let us do that.
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To clarify, BlackSpawn, you want to enable HSUPA WHILE keeping HSDPA enabled, correct?
I haven't heard of any mods either to allow the HSUPA to be used, though it is another function of the Qualcomm MSM 7200 chipset used in the Kaiser. Here is some light reading for you that specs HSUPA at up to5.76 Mbps (cat 6). but when you question the htc site, it specs upload at up to 384 kbps (this is what I have found to be true.
This may very well be another instance of HTC not taking full advantage of the chosen chipset, as has been fought on THIS battle field.
If anyone has some good info on enabling HSUPA, please chime in
Stu_Can_Sam said:
To clarify, BlackSpawn, you want to enable HSUPA WHILE keeping HSDPA enabled, correct?
I haven't heard of any mods either to allow the HSUPA to be used, though it is another function of the Qualcomm MSM 7200 chipset used in the Kaiser. Here is some light reading for you that specs HSUPA at up to5.76 Mbps (cat 6). but when you question the htc site, it specs upload at up to 384 kbps (this is what I have found to be true.
This may very well be another instance of HTC not taking full advantage of the chosen chipset, as has been fought on THIS battle field.
If anyone has some good info on enabling HSUPA, please chime in
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This is exactly what I was thinking
erm.. i flash 1 rom before and in the setting menu.. there is and option enabling the HSUPA. but sorry, i forgot what rom is that..
benjat said:
erm.. i flash 1 rom before and in the setting menu.. there is and option enabling the HSUPA. but sorry, i forgot what rom is that..
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I am running the Hyperdragon III january 13 rom.
in the settings under advanced network the is a option to enable HSDPA/HSUPA. Just thought i would let you know this rom has that option.
Hello,
what are the differences between the two Chipsets in the Rhodium and the Rhodium W?
Thanks!
chris.computerfreak said:
Hello,
what are the differences between the two Chipsets in the Rhodium and the Rhodium W?
Thanks!
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I guess the MSM7600 is CDMA whilst the MSM7200 is GSM?
EDIT:
MSM7200 is GSM only
MSM7600 is GSM/CDMA dualmode, which would explain why the Sprint Rhodium FCC listing says it's got GSM disabled...
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7600&c=qualcomm_msm7600
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200&c=qualcomm_msm7200
The AT&T GSM band version says: MSM7201a
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/photos/htcs-warhawk-and-fortress-are-atandts-touch-diamond2-and-pro2/2032864/
I really fancy a TP2 and I may be reading this completely wrongly, but . . .
my Touch Diamond has a MSM7201A processor which is newer than the processor in the TP2 and is 65nm technology, whereas the MSM7200A is 90nm
Have HTC done some form of tweaking to give better performance from the TP2 because if not it doesn't sound like a considerable upgrade on what I have now
utvol06 said:
The AT&T GSM band version says: MSM7201a
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/photos/htcs-warhawk-and-fortress-are-atandts-touch-diamond2-and-pro2/2032864/
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Look at that link, the last sentence at the bottom in red...
"WM 7.x refresh awarded with Sept 09 launch date"
This is exciting me. Is this hinting for Windows Mobile 7 this year September?
stunno said:
I really fancy a TP2 and I may be reading this completely wrongly, but . . .
my Touch Diamond has a MSM7201A processor which is newer than the processor in the TP2 and is 65nm technology, whereas the MSM7200A is 90nm
Have HTC done some form of tweaking to give better performance from the TP2 because if not it doesn't sound like a considerable upgrade on what I have now
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MSM7201A is not newer than MSM7200A. They are the same generation processor. non-A is 90nm, A is 65nm. 0 is original chip, 1 is with patent workaround. 0 outperforms 1, patent workaround introduced some performance issues.
Laymans term, 7200A is 65nm and faster than 7201A.
TP2 = much faster than TP (probably mostly related to tweaks we had in our custom ROMs anyways, and faster flash and ram chips).
Why do I need to keep telling people this....
LilGBlood said:
Look at that link, the last sentence at the bottom in red...
"WM 7.x refresh awarded with Sept 09 launch date"
This is exciting me. Is this hinting for Windows Mobile 7 this year September?
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This is a typo, should be WM 6.x refresh, i.e. 6.5, which has been said to be released on actual phones in September for ages now.
By patent workarounds, may I hopefully assume it's concerning the hardware video acceleration part? If so, may I also hopefully assume the TP2 has some built in use of that part of the chipset??? Please.... My old HD is getting wore out and I need an excuse to upgrade
Thanks Chainfire... many respects...
Chainfire said:
...0 is original chip, 1 is with patent workaround. 0 outperforms 1, patent workaround introduced some performance issues.
Laymans term, 7200A is 65nm and faster than 7201A.
TP2 = much faster than TP ...
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SomethingWicked said:
By patent workarounds, may I hopefully assume it's concerning the hardware video acceleration part? If so, may I also hopefully assume the TP2 has some built in use of that part of the chipset??? Please.... My old HD is getting wore out and I need an excuse to upgrade
Thanks Chainfire... many respects...
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The patent issue AFAIK only has to do with some 3G stuff (I don't know how this relates to the performance issues of the 1 variant, though, I know there is something with that). Still TP2 does have HW 3D video - but so do the Diamond, TP, HD, and Diam2. The TP2 (and TD2) is noticably faster than the HD, though.
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The patent issue AFAIK only has to do with some 3G stuff (I don't know how this relates to the performance issues of the 1 variant, though, I know there is something with that). Still TP2 does have HW 3D video - but so do the Diamond, TP, HD, and Diam2. The TP2 (and TD2) is noticably faster than the HD, though.
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Actually, it would have been better if you could put some references about your comments. Especially this one: "Laymans term, 7200A is 65nm and faster than 7201A."
It seems you're right about patent issue (though it is hard to find anything about that), I found this site: http://www.scribd.com/doc/2140146/tag1202114pagenews1tQualcomm-Launches-UMTS-Chipsetsd578, which says:
" In December 2007, US federal judge issued an injunction against Qualcomm for infringement of three Broadcom patents and ordered it to stop selling 3G wideband code division multiple access (WCDMA) cellular chips that breach Broadcom patents. The company has launched the mobile station modem (MSM) 6271, MSM6281, MSM7201 and MSM7201A chipsets in the US. According to the company, the new chipsets are pin- and software-compatible with the existing product versions for easy transition. "
So if the site i'm referecing is reliable, then you're right about this.
But where did you get the info about the 65nm? Could you give us some references? The only site I found (where the size is mentioned) is this: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a and it says it is 90nm.
What's more interesting that on this site: http://www.qctconnect.com/products/msm_7201.html#Technical Features It says: "Qcamcorder™: Record up to 24 fps QVGA"
Meanwile here: http://pdfserv.datasheetpro.net/QUALCOMM/msm7200a_chipset.pdf
"Qcamcorder™ Encoder
• A real-time wireless video recording solution that captures movies at 30 fps WVGA"
(this datasheet - by the way - mentions lots of interesting infos)
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Actually, it would have been better ...
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Perhaps if you asked nicely. And even then I'm inclined to tell you to UTFS (it's not like this is "new" information)
EDIT: BTW, seems I didn't mention it in this thread - I did in another - it does indeed seem that the US TP2 (non-Sprint, which will use MSM7600 series) is MSM7201A, while the EU (and possibly Asia) versions use MSM7200A.
Did you guys forget Xperia X1? It also uses the same processor like the Touch Pro2.
A thread like this has been discussed in X1 forum. Sadly, it seemed like X1 has the worse performance of them all...
netsurfz said:
Did you guys forget Xperia X1? It also uses the same processor like the Touch Pro2.
A thread like this has been discussed in X1 forum. Sadly, it seemed like X1 has the worse performance of them all...
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Most of the performance gains are due to faster RAM/Flash ICs, not the processor.
Chainfire said:
Perhaps if you asked nicely. And even then I'm inclined to tell you to UTFS (it's not like this is "new" information)
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Yeah.. what I expected.. Layman...
Chainfire said:
Perhaps if you asked nicely. And even then I'm inclined to tell you to UTFS (it's not like this is "new" information)
EDIT: BTW, seems I didn't mention it in this thread - I did in another - it does indeed seem that the US TP2 (non-Sprint, which will use MSM7600 series) is MSM7201A, while the EU (and possibly Asia) versions use MSM7200A.
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And in just a few short hours i'll have mine in my grubby lil hands hehehe....
GOT TO GET ME DAT ANDROID NOW
[and its sprint - yey yey new cpu]
btw found some interesting things here:
http://www.datasheetpro.com/node/50272
gives some details on the 7600 chipset - very nice diagrams and whatnot
Hello.
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Tab wifi only, but are there any other spec differences between the P1000 and the P1010 other than the missing 3G?
Any known software issues with the P1010?
Thank you
/Henriette
HenrietteK said:
Hello.
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Tab wifi only, but are there any other spec differences between the P1000 and the P1010 other than the missing 3G?
Any known software issues with the P1010?
Thank you
/Henriette
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GPU in P1010 is PowerVR SGX530!
IIs that better or worse than the 3G version?
Earthbrain said:
IIs that better or worse than the 3G version?
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PowerVR SGX540 in P1000 is much faster!
No GPS I think and BT 2.1 instead of 3.0
How much is much faster?
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Don't care about the BT. I think the gps is actually there. Can anyone confirm that?
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No GPS I think and BT 2.1 instead of 3.0
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It does have GPS.
The CPU is also different.
In summary, there are 3 differences:
1. CPU (not much different, I think)
2. GPU (thus can't play 720p smoothly, forget 1080p)
3. Bluetooth (transfer speed is lower)
I own one, and I'm disappointed at the GPU.
So what one does att carry
Thanks. Not getting that one then. Want full power
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HenrietteK said:
Hello.
I'm thinking about getting a Galaxy Tab wifi only, but are there any other spec differences between the P1000 and the P1010 other than the missing 3G?
Any known software issues with the P1010?
Thank you
/Henriette
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1. The P1010 weighs maybe 1 - 5 grams less because you don't need to put a card in it.
2. The WiFi-only only has a 16GB internal memory model.
3. No EDGE, 3G, etc.
Where did you guys get the information regarding the weaker proc? The specs at pdadb.net and gsmarena are just the same? O_O
Unless, of course, they haven't modified it yet. O_O
Galaxy Tab WiFi is OMAP3
I just got a Galaxy Tab WiFi and will be returning it tomorrow.
The SoC is an OMAP3 of some kind. The GPU *is* an SGX530, which is significantly slower than the SGX540 on the Samsung C110 SoC. The OMAPs memory controller is also much slower than the C110s, various other OMAP bits are not up-to-spec compared to C110. The Galaxy Tab WiFi is a joke. Buy a nook color instead: save $100 and get a better LCD.
I'm sure that the product spec page for the Galaxy Tab WiFi said "C110 Applications Processor" a few days ago, now it reads "1GHz A8 Cortex Processor" (which isn't even written correctly, should be "Cortex-A8"...). I was suspicious when someone posted that they had inspected a P1010 ROM and it contained all of the TI OMX libraries, but I didn't believe that Samsung would redo the whole BSP for a product destined to sell zero million units.
I was wrong. Guess I'll wait for the Asus Transformer.
It seems that the firmware / Android version isn't upgradable by normal means.
There is no firmware or Android update selection like the Sprint version.
Kies indicates that the firmware is NOT upgradable.
Anyone know what's going on?
I brought mine yesterday
P1010 decode 720P video is fine (smooth) with stock video player
Screen is so great (actually better than my HD2 w/ Android) , just waiting for the great great xda developer work on the kernel so I can overclock mine...
Here is the list I really like
- ROOT access
- Overclocking , Memory Managerment
- UI Tweak (Using Go launcher at the moment)
pendevous said:
Where did you guys get the information regarding the weaker proc? The specs at pdadb.net and gsmarena are just the same? O_O
Unless, of course, they haven't modified it yet. O_O
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I agree, I haven't seen anything definitive yet that shows it has the weaker CPU. Can any of you smart xda people who has either broken one open (not me, ...yet) or studied the code give a somewhat more definitive answer? I've had mine for 2 weeks now. I'm happy with its performance. But I know I'm going to want to play with the innards down the road. Is it really that much different from the tab phones?
Any update on this? I was going to get a WiFi tab but having second thoughts now...
@victor888 - what app did you use to play the 720p files, RockPlayer?
It is apparently different...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054872
the P1010 is not Bluetooth keyboard Compatible (No HID inside). apparently does not support video output through HDMI cable, please advise if anyone is working.
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Update... Solved Bluetooth compatibility.
Hi.
I could connect my bluetooth keyboard to my Galaxy Tab P1010 (only WIFI) by an application from the Android Market. This application is called "BlueKeyboard JP". I am using Stock GingerBread Rom.
greetings.
Tested it
Hey there,
I have read a lot about the differences of these Tabs, but I have not seen some real results.
So I just bought both of them... And I compared:
Fazit: the GT-P1000 is really faster then the GT-P1010!
I have made a screenshot of both Tabs. P1010 with Android 2.2.1 and P1000 with Android 2.2 with nothing running then Quadrant.
The results are:
P1000: 1090 Points
P1010: 691 Points
You can feel the differences by browsing, sliding the top bar down and using the back and home button.
I don't have pictures of the Hardwareinfos, but I lookes at them and there are a lot of differences. The CPU is the same. But the GPU is a [email protected] and a [email protected] All sensors are different and other things. [email protected] and [email protected]
I will make pictures and a list of all differences, if someone want's it.
Greetz,
Tillmet
I don't trust in Quadrant benchmark. If you use OCLF in the P1010 the result overpast the 1000 points.
In game I have good performace +-30fps in HD gameloft titles, like Eternal Legacy, Dungeon Hunter, etc. In video performace the P1010 play 720p h.263 very well (test it with the free Big Buck Bunny Movie 720p mp4, the picture quality is awesome) ;no so well with h.264 that need be 480p with a baseline level 3.0 profile.
Yes, is no so powerfull like the P1000 but with the price I am satisfied with it.
Ps. Android System Info show OpenGL 1.1 same that the P1000.
I read somewhere that the Galaxy Note is equipped with the SirfStar4 chipset...
Can anyone confirm that? And if possible with a link to the documentation?
Thanks
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Galaxy Note uses Broadcom BCM47511 as GPS chipset
Hello betoNL,
According to a Broadcom press release, the Samsung Galaxy Note uses their BCM47511 chipset, for GPS (American) but also GLONASS (Russian) Global Navigation Satellite System(s) (a.k.a. GNSS, the generic term for GPS-like systems). This chipset, which is a direct pin-to-pin replacement for the earlier BCM4751 chipset, adds support for the Russian GLONASS system, so that either or both GPS & GLONASS can be used according to best available signal strengths. Thus speeding acquisition and improving (slightly) accuracy.
I notice that Broadcom have now starting selling their next-generation GNSS chipset, BCM4752, which adds the Japanese specific Quasi-Zenith Satellite System (a.k.a. QZSS, a regional solution using quasi-geo-synchronous satelites that oscilate North-South between Japan and central Australia), along with GPS & GLONASS. This chipset also advertises that it uses unspecified Satellite-Based Augmentation Systems (a.k.a. SBAS, like maritime Differential-GPS but via satelite) - presumably at least WAAS (North American continent) and EGNOS (Europe) would be support, but no mention of implementation details: e.g. is host system software required?
Broadcom suggest that smartphones using this new chipset should start being released in Q4 2012, meaning right now (2 weeks left before Christmas), but I cannot find any examples of that yet. When that happens, the new smartphone concerned would be (due to absence of Sirf Star III/4) the first to have GPS-style location using correction information (A-GPS only pre-loads the basic satelite almanac via Internet, rather than waiting for it to dribble down from the GPS satelites themselves, thus saving time for the first-fix).
This new BCM4752 chipset also advertises reduced power - compared to BCM4751/BCM47511. As well as the possibility of using external sensors (accelerometre, gyro) and other information such triangulated Wifi and/or Bluetooth signals - specifically to improve indoor operations.
Getting back to your specific suggestion that a Sirf Star 4 might be involved: I have not been able to identify any smartphone using this chipset, nor the Sirf Star III which is what is was actually looking for when I came across you still-unanswered post. Apparently some purpose built GPS tablets, running Android but without any telephone capability, do use the Sirf Star III (at least) which already gets correction information via SBAS. But Broadcom & Qualcomm seems to share the smartphone market (Android and iPhone).
Best regards,
Neil D. - Lyon France
Hello Neil,
Thank you very much for your excellent, very informative and complete post.
As you noticed (or not ), I posted my question around one year ago, when I was thinking about buying the GNote and I did buy it!
The gps performance on the GNote is indeed excellent, on all my onboard/offline gps car navigation software.
In the meantime I already moved on to the GNote2, which also got Glonass support and probably got the same gps chipset as his predecessor and a even better gps performance ( locks to satellites a little faster, even indoors , without the need of agps support, of course)
If it's correct, that the GNote2 got the same chip or similar(upgraded) , allow me to quote your excellent post, on the GNote2 forum also.
Best regards and thanks again,
Beto
Edit: If I remember it correctly, there were some very old HTC phone models equipped with a sirfstar chipset, but it seems so long ago...
Can anyone confirm if the note will switch automatically between gps and glonass. Mine always says location set by gps.
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PJ147 said:
Can anyone confirm if the note will switch automatically between gps and glonass. Mine always says location set by gps...
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Well, I own a note 2 now and Just like the note 1, once I am outdoors, and I open for instance gps status app , I can see sometimes device is viewing 22 or 23 (or maybe more) satellites, much more than any other device I owned before, so I can only conclude that the phone is combining both systems:
GLONASS is a radio-based satellite navigation system, the Russian equivalent to the U.S.’s GPS. GLONASS was initiated during Soviet Union times but had then fallen into disrepair, it has since then been upgraded in various stages and can now begin to rival GPS — GLONASS is actually more accurate than GPS in northern latitudes because of the positioning of its satellites.
The biggest benefits, however, come when you combine both systems together, GLONASS and GPS; this allows a device to get more accurate positioning and/or faster fix, particularly in deep urban environments. This is because you suddenly have access to the US GPS 31 satellites and the Russian GLONASS 24 satellites for a total of 55 active satellites.
Below is a test that was ran showing the improvement in accuracy by using both systems together:
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And even if it's not combining both systems, that's not really relevant, cause performance over here, is outstanding, anyways (fix speed and accuracy)....
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Galaxy note series has one of the best gps chipset available and it is way ahead of its time. No other phone has such a powerful gps.
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betoNL said:
I read somewhere that the Galaxy Note is equipped with the SirfStar4 chipset...
Can anyone confirm that? And if possible with a link to the documentation?
Thanks
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Perhaps some of the devices do, but not the GT-N7000. I have that model, and when I capture nmea data I see some proprietary messages unique to the Broadcom GPS chips.
Thanks man, but first post is more than 1 year old and it was detailed answered 6 posts above...
I think one key difference between the Broadcom chipsets that isn't mentioned here are the number of tracking channels and corresponding maximum satellites tracked.
The BCM4751, 2076, 4761 only have 12 tracking channels with an equivalent maximum satellites tracked. This is fine for GPS only devices, but quite limited for multi-constellation chipsets.
The BCM47511 up's the tracking channels to 18 with an equivalent max tracked.
The BCM4752 is listed as >100 channels, with a maximum tracked of >35.
Not sure if any devices use the BCM4752. Couldn't find any information from searches.
source: http://www.gpsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/GPSWorld_2013ReceiverSurvey.pdf
Galaxy S2 uses SiRFstarIV.
It seems that OP3 has some Memory Management issues right no:
http://www.gsmarena.com/video_shows_the_oneplus_3_struggling_to_manage_its_6gb_of_ram-blog-18866.php
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYv8YQJbJaQ
Let's hope OP and/or custom ROM developers will fix that in a near future. Otherwise, 6GB would be completely useless.
tnttrx said:
It seems that OP3 has some Memory Management issues right no:
http://www.gsmarena.com/video_shows_the_oneplus_3_struggling_to_manage_its_6gb_of_ram-blog-18866.php
Let's hope OP and/or custom ROM developers will fix that in a near future. Otherwise, 6GB would be completely useless.
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That looks pretty bad from the YouTube vid, hope its fixable
Really want to know if the test has been made before or after updating to OOS 3.1.2... and what OOS 3.1.2 changelog is !
I think it was made before the update. They said in another video that they have had it since June 5th and that they will be releasing multiple videos soon. I am guessing this is one of those videos. But that doesn't mean it is fixed.
I have posted a question about update 3.1.2 to video owner.
Let's see what he replies.
To me this comment makes a lot of sense too:
Very interesting test, but not very conclusive. From video history of the same test performed on different devices by C4ETech:
1:05 - 1:54 - 1st and 2nd round - Galaxy S7 (exynos, 4Gb)
1:01 - 1:35 - 1st and 2nd round - Galaxy S7 Edge (exynos, 4Gb)
1:24 - 2:00 - 1st and 2nd round - HTC 10 (SD820, 4Gb)
1:05 - 2:10 - 1st and 2nd round - LG G5 (SD820, 4Gb)
1:10 - 2:22 - 1st and 2nd round - Oneplus 3 (SD820, 6Gb)
If you compare those numbers, you will see that:
1) +/- 5 seconds don't really mean anything. S7E vs S7 with same CPU and same ram in 2 tests gave different results in the 1st round.
2) Memory management can be luck of the draw and depends on other factors. Again difference is S7 vs S7E clearly shows that one app is still in memory in one test and not in memory on the other, even though hardware and software are almost the same (if you don't consider S7 and S7E to be all that different). Otherwise you might as well call S7E "awesome" phone and S7 "crappy" phone.
3) Speed of all those (except HTC10) is almost the same judging by the 1st round. HTC10 is just a bit slower due to storage (emmc on HTC 10 vs ufs on others)
4) Now that new phones have so much memory (that is clearly not utilized to full potential), there really should be an update to the android system as a whole to take advantage of it. I don't see any reason for any of these devices (regardless of 4Gb or 6Gb) to unload apps from memory in the scenario of this test. Good thing is that tools/apps exist that can force system to keep apps in memory, if desired, but it is not really a substitute for better native memory management (by android as a whole) that can take advantage of all the ram available.
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Yeahj.. just wait for the update
And even if it was the slowest of them it comes with dev friendly sources and not with a locked bootloader and too high price
dev friendly sources should be the way to overcome this issue at least in custom ROMs... we will see...
Carl Pei wrote on twitter, that they did this on purpose for better battery life and it is possible to change it within the framework, if someone wants to change it.
Shusky said:
Carl Pei wrote on twitter, that they did this on purpose for better battery life and it is possible to change it within the framework, if someone wants to change it.
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OMG!
well, freeze app, don't let it do anything, no data, no CPU usage -> that will save battery.
do not throw it away from RAM!
tnttrx said:
OMG!
well, freeze app, don't let it do anything, no data, no CPU usage -> that will save battery.
do not throw it away from RAM!
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What exactly are we seeing here that people are calling memory management issues? OOM/LMK limits? Or are we stashing too much in RAM? I can't see the video because of the network I am on. I am certain it can be fixed regardless and tuned to ensure the issue is gone.
DespairFactor said:
What exactly are we seeing here that people are calling memory management issues? OOM/LMK limits? Or are we stashing too much in RAM? I can't see the video because of the network I am on. I am certain it can be fixed regardless and tuned to ensure the issue is gone.
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Exactly OOM/LMK limits. 16 apps are opened, then 2 large games are kicked from the cache and have to reload. That's about it.
Will there be any xposed mod possible for this issue?
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Same guy did a new video with 3.1.2 update and compared.
I have the device in hand now and not seeing any issues with all apps open not one relloaded but if i open all on my s7e some start to reload
DespairFactor said:
What exactly are we seeing here that people are calling memory management issues? OOM/LMK limits? Or are we stashing too much in RAM? I can't see the video because of the network I am on. I am certain it can be fixed regardless and tuned to ensure the issue is gone.
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The LMK limits are messed up. It is too aggressive in killing apps....btw what have you decided? Will you support our phone or undecided yet? I hope you get on board the OP3 train!! Peace
Konskl said:
The LMK limits are messed up. It is too aggressive in killing apps....btw what have you decided? Will you support our phone or undecided yet? I hope you get on board the OP3 train!! Peace
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If you root, I know kernel adiutor let's you change the limits, if you have 6gb of ram you may as well be like Samsung and use it all. What are you guys seeing for usage with no apps running? And what is the amount you see apps getting killed at?
DespairFactor said:
If you root, I know kernel adiutor let's you change the limits, if you have 6gb of ram you may as well be like Samsung and use it all. What are you guys seeing for usage with no apps running? And what is the amount you see apps getting killed at?
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If no apps are open the unused ram is around 4.6gb out of 5.6gb
tnttrx said:
I have posted a question about update 3.1.2 to video owner.
Let's see what he replies.
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He replied with a new video. Check it out!