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[Q] Is Android 2.2 on galaxy like Nexus one? (because of Nexus CPU type)

Hi guys..
I sad Google developed 2.2 to improve snapdragon cpu and becuase of that the benchmarks shows 3X faster cpu on nexus,
will work 2.2 on galaxy like nexus ? or not for SGS cpu!
at all what you think about power of CPU/GPU in SGS on 2.2 ?
Is nexus cpu better than galaxy on Android 2.2 ?

The Galaxy's CPU/GPU is the best on the market right now and with 2.2 it should fix a lot of software problems with the SGS.

Actually can't wait for 2.2, and it's released around about my birthday!

When is your birthday

22nd September mate. You can buy me a Galaxy S as a spare if you want

well I have to see it first.
Guess Samsung finds a way to **** up the phone again i'm sure of that.

matty___ said:
well I have to see it first.
Guess Samsung finds a way to **** up the phone again i'm sure of that.
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If it has rfs file format and TouchWiz, consider it ****ed up.

kgk888 said:
If it has rfs file format and TouchWiz, consider it ****ed up.
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If froyo on the SGS sucks, then the chefs in here will cut it open and make it run properly and it won't matter what the FW was like when samsung sent it out. Also, TouchWiz is fine, even if it does have a dumb name.

I have been worried about this. The sgs line and droid line do not get over 15 in linpack with 2.2. I dont see the same increase in speed as I do with snapdragon based phones. I have read this is due to the snapdragon having 128 bit vs 64 bit something but cant find the forum post about this. The sgs line with 2.1 is still faster then a 2.2 snapdragon based phone but it must have the lag fix installed. Without the lag fix it is slower for sure. I will try to find the forum post about 128bit vs 64bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKsAUR61ByM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji49qFNxC4c
Edit: found the forum post
Originally Posted by Gimic26
Your question was answered already...it comes down to processor architecture. Qualcomm's Snapdragon platform and more specifically the Scorpion application processor, while being related to TI's Omap Arm series, has enhancements made by Qualcomm. The part of the cpu that handles the SIMD instructions has a wider pipeline, 128 bits vs 64 bits in TI's Omap. Scorpion also has a deeper pipeline to better handle all that data which I'd assume offsets some of the performance benefits a little bit.
As far as the difference between the two benchmarks, they are written to benchmark two different things. Linpack can run almost entirely within the SIMD/NEON portion of the cpu thereby showing off the enhancements made by Qualcomm. Quadrant stresses the entire core showing off total system performance showing that only in certain situations will Snapdragon outperform any other Arm based core.

shep211 said:
I have been worried about this. The sgs line and droid line do not get over 15 in linpack with 2.2. I dont see the same increase in speed as I do with snapdragon based phones. I have read this is due to the snapdragon having 128 bit vs 64 bit something but cant find the forum post about this. The sgs line with 2.1 is still faster then a 2.2 snapdragon based phone but it must have the lag fix installed. Without the lag fix it is slower for sure. I will try to find the forum post about 128bit vs 64bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKsAUR61ByM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji49qFNxC4c
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Originally Posted by Gimic26
Your question was answered already...it comes down to processor architecture. Qualcomm's Snapdragon platform and more specifically the Scorpion application processor, while being related to TI's Omap Arm series, has enhancements made by Qualcomm. The part of the cpu that handles the SIMD instructions has a wider pipeline, 128 bits vs 64 bits in TI's Omap. Scorpion also has a deeper pipeline to better handle all that data which I'd assume offsets some of the performance benefits a little bit.
As far as the difference between the two benchmarks, they are written to benchmark two different things. Linpack can run almost entirely within the SIMD/NEON portion of the cpu thereby showing off the enhancements made by Qualcomm. Quadrant stresses the entire core showing off total system performance showing that only in certain situations will Snapdragon outperform any other Arm based core.
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From what I've seen and read, the 2.2 builds for the Galaxy S do NOT have a JIT compiler enabled which explains the lower scores. The N1 got the huge CPU boost from having JIT enabled. That doesn't explain the Droid X's scores, but then again I haven't read enough about 2.2 running on the DX to see if it has JIT installed.

What're you think? I'll buy SGS 2.1 or wait for SGS 2.2 ?
It's very important to buy most powerfull phone.
I like Nexuse cus it's tested sucssasfuly in Android 2.2 and I'm gono love SGS if it will be better than nexus in 2.2.
Help me to choose better path )

Vogie said:
What're you think? I'll buy SGS 2.1 or wait for SGS 2.2 ?
It's very important to buy most powerfull phone.
I like Nexuse cus it's tested sucssasfuly in Android 2.2 and I'm gono love SGS if it will be better than nexus in 2.2.
Help me to choose better path )
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I would wait at this time before purchasing an SGS if that's your concern.
Out of the box, the current phone/software is laggy and disappointing. If you're willing to hack it with some of the various fixes found here (I prefer samset with mimocan kernel), then you won't be unhappy with the phone, but there's no guarantee that Samsung will get FroYo right, and that if they do get it wrong that the devs here will be able to bring you a hot, non-laggy, super FroYo ROM before there's better, or at least comparable hardware done right by the manufacturer available.
That's no reflection on the devs here at all, I'm just thinking that Samsung won't release the firmware until the end of September, the devs will need a couple of weeks to make magic at least, and so now we're well into October. By October, the SGS will be a six month old phone. Six months is a very long time in the Android hardware world, and we'll likely see a landslide of new phones with faster CPU, maybe even dual-cores in the fall for the holiday season. The only thing the SGS will have over other phones at that point is the Super AMOLED screen by Samsung, since they're holding it all to themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if Moto or HTC try to kang the iPhone display tech for newer models if they can't get Super AMOLED for themselves.

In the android world it is nearly impossible to but a device that won't be out of date within at most a year and sometimes within 6 months.
Having said that, I don't see anything that will topple the sgs quite that soon. Although there is talk of dual core snap dragons, there has been nothing announced yet, and indeed the two new Desire handsets are still on the same chip.
I wouldn't expect to see anything that will have more raw power than the sgs until at least mid 2011. If there was anything closer than that it'd already be getting hyped.
If you keep looking at what is just over the horizon then you won't end up ever getting one, because there always seems to be something new out in a few months time. The sgs isn't prefect, but it beats the hell it of most anything that you'll be able to buy this year.
My humble opinion of course, but I think that if you want top end hardware, the sgs will serve you very well.
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Based on your responses so far, I'd just get an iPhone 4 and be done with it.
There are a lot of people here and elsewhere who are perfectly happy with the device. I for one haven't installed the lag fix and I don't experience any lags, except for the situations below:
1. I'm trying to do something while there are several apps being installed/downloaded from the marketplace in the background. I think this will be resolved with the dualcore next gen CPU's.
2. Using LauncherPro, for all that is good and nice on this earth, I do not know why it took me 3 months before the option to change the shortcut on its drawer was shown to me. Imagine that, 3 months just to show the option to add a shortcut. Jeezus. I click on add shortcut and it took 3 months. Someone shoot me. I'm using ADW now and am very happy.
Out of sheer curiosity, why is it that you need "THE MOST POWERFUL PHONE"?

shep211 said:
As far as the difference between the two benchmarks, they are written to benchmark two different things. Linpack can run almost entirely within the SIMD/NEON portion of the cpu thereby showing off the enhancements made by Qualcomm. Quadrant stresses the entire core showing off total system performance showing that only in certain situations will Snapdragon outperform any other Arm based core.
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The hummingbird core is widely recognized to be faster than the snapdragon core. Benchmarks do not tell you everything. Reference:
You might think that the Hummingbird doesn’t stand a chance against Qualcomm’s custom-built monster, but Samsung isn’t prepared to throw in the towel. In response to Snapdragon, they hired Intrinsity, a semiconductor company specializing in tweaking processor logic design, to customize the Cortex-A8 in the Hummingbird to perform certain binary functions using significantly less instructions than normal. Samsung estimates that 20% of the Hummingbird’s functions are affected, and of those, on average 25-50% less instructions are needed to complete each task. Overall, the processor can perform tasks 5-10% more quickly while handling the same 2 instructions per clock cycle as an unmodified ARM Cortex-A8 processor, and Samsung states it outperforms all other processors on the market (a statement seemingly aimed at Qualcomm).
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Here is a GPU comparison for some of the leading smartphones:
Motorola Droid: TI OMAP3430 with PowerVR SGX530 = 7-14 million(?) triangles/sec
Nexus One: Qualcomm QSD8x50 with Adreno 200 = 22 million triangles/sec
iPhone 3G S: 600 MHz Cortex-A8 with PowerVR SGX535 = 28 7 million triangles/sec
Samsung Galaxy S: S5PC110 with PowerVR SGX540 = 90 million triangles/sec
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Wait for G2 as nexus one is old news and i think they are winding down production. Frankly i love my sgs. Get it now cos frankly froyo is way over hyped compared to what sgs can do now with a lagfix
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ickyboo said:
Wait for G2 as nexus one is old news and i think they are winding down production. Frankly i love my sgs. Get it now cos frankly froyo is way over hyped compared to what sgs can do now with a lagfix
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You can't really say froyo is over hyped, I mean its free, and beyond that its an incremental upgrade.
I don't see why anyone would be staying on eclair once official froyo drops, and you can't deny that it will bring a performance boost.
Now I doubt it will bring quite as much of a boost as it gave to the N1 until we get a few months of development to really get it running sweetly, but all the same its still not over hyped if I ask me.
With optimized ROMs and whatever fixes we need (cuz samsung WILL break something) I figure the sgs will shred the N1's new scores. I recon we'll see around 3k in quadrant.
Considering how far ahead of almost everything a lag fixed non-stock-rom sgs is now, we'll see something really special once froyo starts rocking our crotches.
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The.Opethian said:
Based on your responses so far, I'd just get an iPhone 4 and be done with it.
There are a lot of people here and elsewhere who are perfectly happy with the device. I for one haven't installed the lag fix and I don't experience any lags, except for the situations below:
1. I'm trying to do something while there are several apps being installed/downloaded from the marketplace in the background. I think this will be resolved with the dualcore next gen CPU's.
2. Using LauncherPro, for all that is good and nice on this earth, I do not know why it took me 3 months before the option to change the shortcut on its drawer was shown to me. Imagine that, 3 months just to show the option to add a shortcut. Jeezus. I click on add shortcut and it took 3 months. Someone shoot me. I'm using ADW now and am very happy.
Out of sheer curiosity, why is it that you need "THE MOST POWERFUL PHONE"?
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Why powerfull phone? ok i'll tell u:
Because I don't like to buy an expensive phone (like SGS) that power is lesser than a chipper phone (like N1) !
Because I'd rather a phone without stalling (lagging) to play games and running big applications. I will very gray if i'll se lagging/stalling...
Because I need a phone with a good support (it's enough, don't need mazing support). a phone with a clear (alive or nice) Future

JIT for Hummingbird should be promising.

High Mem
anyone got any idea on the high mem issue?... when i was browsing the Gmarket.com, i realize 305 total available memory is not enough for me... and the web page just closed....

[Q] specs and lacks galaxy s vs galaxy s

Hi. As many of you I am undecided between the Desire HD and Galaxy S. I'd like to have some advices from you....these are my doubts:
1)there will be more rom support in future (both official producer roms and xda roms) for dhd or sgs? i know...it's difficult to say now, but If you see the number of threads of desire hd is a lot lower than sgs one, even if dhd is newer. This is a negative sign for dhd...
2)SGS has a more powerful GPU, but really in games and normal use there aren't great differences, rather sometimes dhd seems to be faster. Then shouldn't be so important to have the Hummingbird. Is this correct?
3)And even from the point of view of hardware...according to you what's the more interessant compromise between:
SGS: bluetooth 3, 6 axis accelerometer, front camera, superamoled, better battery, tv out
vs
DHD: faster 3G connection, dual flash led, 8 mp camera, more ram, dolby and srs, 4,3", better build material?? (are you sure that dhd lacks of 6 axis accelerometer?)
5)According to me samsung problems about gps and performance (without lag fix) are a very negative thing, because to use sgs performances i'm obliged to root the phone, to install the lag fix and others fix. Instead a positive thing for SGS is that maybe when nexus s comes out users could exploit its rom even for the galaxy, i think that the porting of that os should be easy saw that the hardware is the same.
6)However both htc and samsung announced that there will be the update to gingerbread...or not?
Then according to you what's the best compromise?dhd or sgs?
Sorry for my bad english. Thank you very much

Wait for the Galaxy S II

Dear friend SGS is better
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does p1010 have worse gpu?

Hi I see conflicting statments about the wifi only tab. is it indeed much inferior as it has a rubbish gpu? e.g. I have seen some youtube vids of fpse running amazingly well on the tab, would it run very slow on the p1010?
Thanks
p.s. if I had a brand new sealed one what could I sell it for?
Edit found some more threads looks like it does indeed have a much worse gpu. How annoying as I can get one really cheap. Still interested on your thoughts on what I can see it for. I should be able to get a brand new one for £149.99 tomorrow (best buy bristol OOS today but were taking names of people who missed out)

badasschris said:
Hi I see conflicting statments about the wifi only tab. is it indeed much inferior as it has a rubbish gpu? e.g. I have seen some youtube vids of fpse running amazingly well on the tab, would it run very slow on the p1010?
Thanks
p.s. if I had a brand new sealed one what could I sell it for?
Edit found some more threads looks like it does indeed have a much worse gpu. How annoying as I can get one really cheap. Still interested on your thoughts on what I can see it for. I should be able to get a brand new one for £149.99 tomorrow (best buy bristol OOS today but were taking names of people who missed out)
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Okay, I've been reading stuff around forums that the Wifi-only Tab is less powerful than the normal one. However, when I checked sites like GSMArena, Softpedia.org, etc. They didn't mention these changes.
You can sell it for about 20 euros off the price (sorry, that's about 16-18 pounds, maybe?)
Edit: according to some tests ran, the wifi version does indeed uses powerVR530 instead.

I just started a thread asking p1010 owners to install Quadrant and post a screen shot of the "System Information".
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054872
There were rumors that the P1010 uses OMAP not Samsung Hummingbird. The GPU is indeed SGX530, not SGX540 of the Samsung Hummingbird.
I also dug through many user forums and found another post (in Bulgarian) with the same finding:
http://www.androidbg.com/forum/topic10462-samsung-galaxy-tab-wifi-639-lv-v-tekhnomarket.html
(post #16 - copy and paste into google translate)
I also have an Archos 70 which has OMAP 3630 / SGX530. The Adobe flash video is definitely not smooth (even at 360p), and the Archos has a lower resolution screen (800 x 480). Playing pre-recorded HD video is smooth (720 H.264 definitely, 1080 H.264 depends on the bitrate), but again the video is playing on a lower resolution screen on the Archos. It also depends on the hardware of the device (The Archos usually has a good board that support hardware acceleration for multimedia).

I can assure you about the lower spec of the wifi version which has been confirmed by our local Samsung. They are asked to give some compensation to the buyers who have mistakenly bought this wifi version due to wrong advert (i.e. same spec as the 3g version, but without phone and 3g capability).
It barely (to impossible to) plays HD movies. Other features are not very much of an issue. Youtube HQ video and dvdrip video works smoothly, though.
I also own Archos 70 for a few months before I get Galaxy Tab Wifi version. I really loved Archos 70.
Archos 70 is really thin and battery lasts longer. What Galaxy Tab Wifi surpasses Archos 70 are:
- LCD is much better
- everything works obviously faster even on the stock ROM.
- more app/data storage
- Flash works quite smooth
I really want them to combine good features of both tablets!
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Galaxy Tab wifi only (P1010) hardware

Can owners of the Galaxy Tab wifi-only version (P1010) please install Quadrant and make a screen shot of the "System Information" (see attached file, example for Moto Xoom) showing the CPU and GPU?
There are rumors that the wifi-only version use a different chip (OMAP 3630) from the original GT (Samsung Hummingbird). In quadrant's "System Information", even if the CPU name is not listed, the GPU name should be listed - if it is the same as the original GT it should be PowerVR SGX540; if it is OMAP 3630 it will be SGX530.
Time to settle some rumors once and for all. Thank you for your contribution.

slim_thumb said:
Can owners of the Galaxy Tab wifi-only version (P1010) please install Quadrant and make a screen shot of the "System Information" (see attached file, example for Moto Xoom) showing the CPU and GPU?
There are rumors that the wifi-only version use a different chip (OMAP 3630) from the original GT (Samsung Hummingbird). In quadrant's "System Information", even if the CPU name is not listed, the GPU name should be listed - if it is the same as the original GT it should be PowerVR SGX540; if it is OMAP 3630 it will be SGX530.
Time to settle some rumors once and for all. Thank you for your contribution.
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It's PowerVR SGX530!

Is this the OMAP 3630?
Even a total noob like me can guess that "Cores:1" can't be good.

rdk67 said:
It's PowerVR SGX530!
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Hey what app is that?

Another app that can show you system info would be elixir. Its free on the market.

pendevous said:
Hey what app is that?
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Android System Info

rtfm1777 said:
Even a total noob like me can guess that "Cores:1" can't be good.
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It's not like the P1000 has two of them, you know. Plus, the tab plays full hd video while the Tegra 2 can't go above 720p.
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AlexTheStampede said:
It's not like the P1000 has two of them, you know. Plus, the tab plays full hd video while the Tegra 2 can't go above 720p.
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Can the P1010 though (which is what is being discussed!)

I am getting one of these in the next week or so, but if I understand correctly then the wifi only version isnt quite as quick?

In system folders.

AlexTheStampede said:
It's not like the P1000 has two of them, you know. Plus, the tab plays full hd video while the Tegra 2 can't go above 720p.
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With what video app?
Thanks for the topic as I was also looking into getting the WiFi only tab...will now be looking at the GSM version, ATT or TMOBILE (that one is cheaper) or the 8.9"...when it comes out.

hicdub said:
I am getting one of these in the next week or so, but if I understand correctly then the wifi only version isnt quite as quick?
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Don't know where you're hearing this from. I haven't noticed any lag at all. It seems perfectly responsive to me.

hicdub said:
I am getting one of these in the next week or so, but if I understand correctly then the wifi only version isnt quite as quick?
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I have the original GTab (T-Mobile version) but not the wifi-only (P1010) version. However, I have an Archos 70 tablet that uses the OMAP3630 chip with the SGX530 gpu. It may be comparing orange with grapefruit but this is better than nothing.
The Archos plays downloaded HD video using their media player quite smoothly. However (1) the Archos screen is only 800 x 480 resolution, meaning it is less stressful for a weaker gpu (2) they probably have some form of hardware acceleration for their media player.
The problem comes when you try to watch online streaming video using Adobe Flash in the web browsers (NOTE: NOT through youtube app which compresses the video stream). It can play standard definition (SD, 360p) video but sometimes show stuttering (eg. just before the embedded ads show up). Anything higher (480p or +) causes major stutters and hangs. NOTE: the Archos has a low res. screen (800 x 480) and the SGX530 gpu is already struggling.
When I use my GTab, 360p SD Flash videos in the browser plays smoothly without any problem. It can manage many 480p Flash videos (youtube automatically bumps up the video resolution to 480p when you go full screen). NOTE: the GTab has a higher resolution (1024 x 600) screen, and the SGX540 gpu is able to keep up with it.
My main concern is the pairing of the weaker SGX530 gpu with the "higher" screen resolution of 1024 x 600 in the P1010 may not be a happy marriage!
Any higher res. Flash videos are not possible - and I don't think any single core ARM processors can manage true HD (720p or higher) Flash videos, because these processors were originally designed for smartphones with small low res. screens!
With the original GTab version, you will probably get a faster and smoother user experience eg. swiping through the screens, screen animation / transition, typing on the keyboard. This is because tablets use the touchscreen exclusively for user input, which involves the gpu all the time.
P.S. I rooted my GTab and applied the One Click Lag Fix immediately after unboxing, and it is truely flying! Quadrant about 2200.

Great input, I now see a TMO 3G TAB in my near future ;-)

slim_thumb said:
P.S. I rooted my GTab and applied the One Click Lag Fix immediately after unboxing, and it is truely flying! Quadrant about 2200.
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I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
Ps: sorry for my bad english

Don't buy the wifi version if you expect it to play HD video.
YouTube HQ (480x360) plays smoothly.
Other features are much more responsive than Archos 70 (I have both Grab wifi and Archie 70).
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stockhomer said:
I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
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Find "OCLF" (OneClickLagFix) in Android Market. I dunno if it will work on the P1010 but it is worth a try.
Run the app and press "install ext2 tools". If this button is red or it fails to install, you are out of luck.
After this, see which "OneClickLagFix" button (v1, v2, v2.2) is green and choose the NEWEST version. If one version fails, try another one (with green button). If all buttons are in red or if all available versions fail, you are out of luck.
P.S. Before I run Quadrant, I close all unnecessary apps in the background (eg. Weather, Twitter, antivirus). This make sure all possible processing power is used to run the benchmark. Before I used OCLF my Quadrant score (original GTab) was about 1100.

stockhomer said:
I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
Ps: sorry for my bad english
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I also apply one click lag fix. Though the score jumps from 6xx to 16xx, I don't think we can trust Quadrant score test after OCLF. Reason: you can see the Database read/write test is so quick as if it did nothing. Before applying lagfix Database write test tooks around 20 seconds, but after lagfix, it looks like it did nothing on the database test.
I found original Grab wifi is already so much responsive even very low quadrant score. Archos 70 has double the gtab wifi quadrant score, but much less responsive.
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Just to confirm OCLF works with p1010. The process was smooth; but I'm still doubt on performance gain. I can't discern the differences.
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stockhomer said:
I only have 720 Quadrant points with my euro p1010 wifi only rooted with Z4root, is that normal?
Ps: sorry for my bad english
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As mentioned in my other reply, I got only 6xx, but this tablet is very fast.
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My Own LG 2x GLbenchmark VS Exynos

i only bought the lg 2x for 3 weeks, and this is sad to watch.
However, i don't see the point of the gpu being such powerful, since android does not have any thing to push the gpu at all besides benchmark. This is a good way to make myself feel better.
I would like to know is there difference between Tegra 2 cpu vs Exynos cpu at all?? besides Exynos gpu being so much more powerful than Tegra 2?
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oh thats just terrible
Now my O2x are completely useless - it will just stop functioning im sure
No wait - thats not right - whats happening, it still works ? My games still play, I can still read the news, I can still do all the things I did yesterday.
It's just a benchmark - does it really matter that much ?

Those are just numbers in my opinion.
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I might have wrong, but that benchmark is made for mobile gpus and tegra 2 is not like normal mobile gpus it's more like a desktop gpu. A eight core gpu can't be beaten by a quad core or?

Tegra is our one, probably futile, hope of future proofing our phones.
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Don't expect Tegra to lead benchmarks for a while until mobile graphics are more geared towards immediate mode rendering (Stuff more like PC graphics.). Everyone else uses Tile-based rendering. I believe NVidia did this to avoid changing the rendering (which changes the drivers even more and etc) once they reach "console-level" graphics. The Tegra 2 will excel in a few things. Don't expect it to be the best performer for now. Expect it to be a capable one.

Don't forget. SGS II is capped to 60fps and we won't know what it's truly capable of

I've seen several gaming videos and the tegra walks all over the Orion. I do agree that push for tegras are the last hope for a unified gaming platform and I think it will work. Nvidia has this backed and will see it through.

i am really sick of the fact every android phone has its own different games on each platform. same game cant be run on different android phones. this is stupid.
its one of the reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once. you see all those samsung galaxy S2 hardware. but where all the games ? those same games i can play on nexus S. with good frames too. however with nvidia and tegra 2, the users are getting exclusive games that can take advantage of the hardware. thats nice for a change.
let the galaxy S2 owners have fun with there powerful phone on paper. at the end of the day. the Tegra 2 owners are the people who are getting the best looking games.
i am not saying i hate S2. because i will buy it as soon as i can. i love super amoled and the techs for the phone. but if i want a pure gaming phone. tegra 2 wins hands down. not because its the most powerful. but because there are exclusive games that take advantage of that GPU.

wrong thread...........

ll_l_x_l_ll said:
ithe reasons i like Nvidia. they are trying to do something good here for once.
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No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!

Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo

rd_nest said:
Benchmarks are just numbers. Real life performance is what counts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkEUOA6Spo
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What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video

fallout0 said:
What are we looking at exactly? Looks like they're both just playing a video
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this video shows at how the flash player performance is on web browsing watching a video and at this point watching an anime on both phones
so you can see that samsung galaxy with exynos and with 1.2ghz against lg2x nvidia tegra2 with 1ghz and lg optimus 2x seems for me faster for playing videos at this ..!i wanna only know if lg use stock 2.2.2 at this video against samsung galaxy s2 2.3.3 stock

lets compare those two videos and see that there are no differences between samsung s 2 and lg2x
and again dont forget...lg 2x has stock 2.2.2 rom
samsung galaxy s 2 has gingerbread 2.3.3 wich supposed to be faster..
think that when lg 2x will get official ginger 2.3.4 at this summer
gaming comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAFs9OQinNo
web browsing comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO0gSLf73AI

Shocky2 said:
No their not, they're taking games already under development which Android users were going to see anyway regardless of nvidia's involvement and paying the developers off to make them exclusive titles, this is a bad thing as most Android users will lose out because of it.
One of the Tegra 2 only pinball games once cracked works fine on a legend ffs!
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True, and Nvidia is causing fragmentation by using their own compression formats. Afaik Mali supports the one and only standard format, but that don't help much when Nvidia is paying off devs to use their proprietary stuff. Yeah not very techical i know, but check out the SGS2 thread for more info.
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