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Look at this:
http://gizmodo.com/360514/htc-says-software-fix-is-coming-for-lousy-video-drivers
An official HTC statement about the drivers looks promising. Again, keep your hopes up and guard up!

Not only is this old and posted to death, but
However this fix is not a new video driver to utilize hardware acceleration
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There is nothing promising about this, please read carefully next time, it just misleads people who read your post

Damn. . . I thought that was a new and updated statement. Look if you only read a little bit of it then you probably missed out on this.
Some of our top engineers have investigated video performance on our devices and have discovered a fix that they claim will dramatically improve performance for common on-screen tasks like scrolling and the like. Their fix would help most of our recent touch-screen products including the Touch family of devices and TYTN II / Tilt, Mogul / XV6900. The update is in testing and we hope to release it soon. However this fix is not a new video driver to utilize hardware acceleration; it is a software optimization. Video drivers are a much more complicated issue that involves companies and engineers beyond HTC alone. We do not want to lead anyone to believe they should expect these. To explain why we are not releasing video acceleration instead of the optimization
I offer you our official statement... "HTC DOES plan to offer software upgrades that will increase feature functionality, over the air wireless speeds and other enhancements for some of the phones being criticized, but we do not anticipate including any additional support for the video acceleration issues cited in customer complaints. It is important for customers to understand that bringing this functionality to market is not a trivial driver update and requires extensive software development and time. HTC will utilize hardware video acceleration like the ATI Imageon in many upcoming products. Our users have made it clear that they expect our products to offer an improved visual experience, and we have included this feedback into planning and development of future products. To address lingering questions about HTC's current MSM 7xxx devices, it is important to establish that a chipset like an MSM7xxx is a platform with a vast multitude of features that enable a wide range of devices with varied functionality. It is common that devices built on platforms like Qualcomm's will not enable every feature or function. In addition to making sure the required hardware is present, unlocking extended capabilities of chipsets like the MSM 7xxx requires in-depth and time consuming software development, complicated licensing negotiations, potential intellectual property negotiations, added licensing fees, and in the case of devices that are sold through operators, the desire of the operator to include the additional functionality. To make an informed decision about which handset suits them best, consumers should look at the product specification itself instead of using the underlying chipset specifications to define what the product could potentially become."
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~~Tito~~ said:
Damn. . . I thought that was a new and updated statement. Look if you only read a little bit of it then you probably missed out on this.
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Sorry Tito,
Nothing new to that, just the same old company line that they've been spouting for weeks.

Meeing!! I thought I saw something new. Well Law Suit it is then since they don't want to make a small amount of effort to fix some devices problems that they shouldn't have. I wonder if they use their own devices or do they have drivers made for them and not us?

VGA Driver issue

I will also order my diamond bud am affraid it wil have the same VGA driver problem like other qualcomm devices. New rom 6.1 for kaiser isn't including the driver, so this realy dissepoints me.

I don't think the Diamond will have the "driver problem". From what I've heard the Diamond even has some kind of accelerated graphics to entertain us with its lovely 480x640 screen
I saw this on one of the youtube video's of the presentation of the device.

Vibrant TouchFLO 3D user interface, responding perfectly to your finger gestures when scrolling through contacts, browsing the web, and launching media… all vividly displayed as photos and artwork powered by the 3D graphics processor.
from htcdirect specs

Yeah, all of the evidence so far suggests that the Touch Diamond will have no driver problems. HTC would have to be quite silly to have driver problems on their flagship device.

Hold up, I don’t think this is their flagship device, it’s targeted at the consumer market rather than at the business market, although there will be some overlap of customers.
Nonetheless, still true that the driver issue effecting other devices won’t be seen on this device.

http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=48976
"Singapore – 22 May, 2008 – HTC Corp. (TAIEX: 2498; “HTC”), the world's leading provider of Microsoft® Windows Mobile® smart devices, today unveiled its new flagship phone, the HTC Touch Diamond."

badaas said:
Vibrant TouchFLO 3D user interface, responding perfectly to your finger gestures when scrolling through contacts, browsing the web, and launching media… all vividly displayed as photos and artwork powered by the 3D graphics processor.
from htcdirect specs
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What we've learned from the TyTN II: Don't trust HTC marketing literature.
Dark Fire said:
all of the evidence so far suggests that the Touch Diamond will have no driver problems. HTC would have to be quite silly to have driver problems on their flagship device.
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The TyTN II was a flagship device that had driver problems. I'm also a bit worried by the current stock of youtube vids. Checkout some of the laggy graphics on this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoaXA9un7YE [web browsing, around 2:40]
My prediction: The graphics performance of the Diamond will be a vast improvement on the recent HTC devices (TyTN II, Touch, etc), but will not be as good as other modern competitors.
Sorry, maybe I'm just a pessimist. Does anyone have a youtube vid to prove me wrong??

Dark Fire said:
http://www.htc.com/www/press.aspx?id=48976
"Singapore – 22 May, 2008 – HTC Corp. (TAIEX: 2498; “HTC”), the world's leading provider of Microsoft® Windows Mobile® smart devices, today unveiled its new flagship phone, the HTC Touch Diamond."
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Have a look at the launch event, towards the end at the Q&A session (time elapsed 55:15) on the link below:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...site:google.com&ei=Ov83SImsNYGkigKglIFU&hl=en
It is a consumer oriented device, now it maybe their flagship consumer device, replacing the original HTC touch, but it is too limited to be their top of the range high end device, as such its priced accordingly.
That’s not to say it’s not a great device, and I will certainly be in line to buy one of the first ones once released to replace my ageing XDA Orbit

To be fair, they do overload it a bit while browsing the web, by zooming in and out and rotating it a lot. The device is only designed to work well when used reasonably.
By the way, the only evidence that I can find of the TyTN II being a flagship device is unofficial.

we wil only know after its out to market..

the tytn II was undoubtedly the flagship device of late 2007, they may not have explicitly said that, but its pretty obvious.
but anyways its getting a bit off topic here... but i really doubt that itll have driver problems, why would they kick themselves in the balls again?
Rory

Sorry, this is random, but I've just thought about that and I have come to the conclusion that kicking yourself in that area is actually pretty difficult (or maybe impossible). Hopefully HTC will find that it is similarly hard to make driver problems again.
And I'm still not convinced by this flagshipness - the flagship product(s) are normally the main feature on the HTC home page. As far as I'm aware, the Touch Family has controlled the home page for ages.

Flagship is just a marketing term use it how you will. If it make you ‘feel’ better that you own the company’s’ flagship product then so be it.
However, I must point out that there are many phones that equal or surpass this phone in terms of hardware without a problem. The only advantage this has is its form factor. The phone is designed as a style statement, like its name it’s all about the BLING BLING. Even the CEO says it’s a phone that you will be proud to show your mates and take to the pub.
For me personally a flagship phone is like the Nokia 8000 series (8600, 8800, etc...) or the new SonyEricsson Xperia X1. A premium device or one that is technically far more advanced that anything that manufacturer has ever produced before.

japher said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoaXA9un7YE [web browsing, around 2:40]
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Web Browsing is likely to be very Processor intensive, not Graphics chip
Personally, I think that the Diamond won't have the 3D driver issue. This is backed up by the benchmarks is got in CorePlayer (Near the bottom, sorry for the auto-translate) - (Spoiler, it could play a VGA (640x480) 1.5mbps XVid video at 106% of actual speed)

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...A premium device or one that is technically far more advanced that anything that manufacturer has ever produced before.
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lol, you must be joking, this device is so advance in such a small package it will be hard to beat this year by anyone, it sure is a flagship device unlike Kaiser, which is just like caring a brick in your pocket, just awfull

banesi said:
lol, you must be joking, this device is so advance in such a small package it will be hard to beat this year by anyone, it sure is a flagship device unlike Kaiser, which is just like caring a brick in your pocket, just awfull
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I completely agree.
Flagship devices are not the most powerful devices out there. I can hardly see HTC bolting a phone to the side of a laptop and calling it their flagship device. Exactly which devices are flagship devices is up to HTC. Lately they've been keen on their Touch family, so they're all flagship devices.
If you really want to generalise it, flagship devices are normally:
1. One of the best devices in terms of specification compared to size (so the Touch Diamond destroys huge devices like the Athena).
2. Very stylish. The members of the Touch family all have unique and memorable looks. The Kaiser is generic and (consequently) unmemorable.

going slightly off topic, maybe you should go discuss the meaning of flagship devices in off topic?
because im bored and this is slightly interesting, i made a poll in OFF-TOPIC http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394942

this thread should be closed, because "we" all know this wont have a 3D driver issue....

i totally agree

I've agreed from the start. Where are the people with appropriate powers when you need them?

Kaiser Video Drivers...will it ever happen?

I know the good people of class action drivers and also our community here at xda are working hard on getting the video drivers up and running and have come a very long way. I truly am impressed and I appreciate everything that is being done.
I guess my question is more of an opinion from everyone, do you believe that the drivers will ever take shape to their full potential and actually push the kaiser to where it should have been? Also, I know HTC said they will not update the drivers, but do you think one day they may backtrack and fix what they should have fixed long ago?

noktem said:
I know HTC said they will not update the drivers, but do you think one day they may backtrack and fix what they should have fixed long ago?
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Do you really think they would go back to something that now has 2 new generations in front of it? Nope, the Kaiser is only a mark in history for them now, end of line device forgotten back there. Except maybe for the repair returns that they might see for some more time...

Of course I understand, why would someone head back in time and fix something that is to them "outdated", but I also know that HTC should know that the Kaiser has a big following behind it and potentially could make profit, because I for one, if they would offer it for 5 dollars or even 10 dollars for video driver updates, would gladly pay. But I understand your logic, just it has always aggravated me how someone can release something that has so much unlocked power.

Even if they could do some development and make a little money selling an upgrade to some, they'll make a whole load more having their engineers work on the future devices and keeping up with competitor's offerings instead of looking back...
HTC made a decision to release the Kaiser without those drivers for whatever reason, be it technical, commercial, marketing or whatever...
The "unlocked" power has always happened and always will, the Kaiser's chipset also supports video out but that is not implemented, the Hermes supported GPS but it wasn't used, those are hardware related that would cost parts to make them usable. The software costs money to be developed, so it comes down to the same.
Much worse, I had a Motorola phone VERY long ago that did not have storage memory on the phone, no clock/alarm and was missing several other features, while those could be enabled just by setting the corresponding bits in the configuration memory with a hacked cable... They even had 2 versions of the exact same phone, with $100 difference, that were totally identical except for a couple more features being enabled (they were running the same software and you could enable the functions on the cheaper one with the cable).
But anyway, this subject has been beaten to death so many times... useless thread.

Agreed. This has been discussed in numerous threads before, please read those discussions and post any new musings there.
Ta
Dave

wp7 january update news

be happy you have wp7..
go to:
wpcentral.com/rumor-january-windows-phone-7-update-be-massive-catches-iphone
copy paste that on your browser and read it

Excellent news! This is exactly what the market needs to hear. People who are upset by the initial release and believe it is all WP7 would ever be will be able to ease up a bit on the nay-saying.
The forces opposed to WP7 will be active all the way to the release of the update. They will actually be even more pronounced because of this information. So I hope MS does impress. Because if they don't, the system will suffer massively because of the heightened opposition.

Great news indeed
Hope to see this for real in January.

no one can exactly says that wp7 is selling poorly in the market,, i read an article that android is outselling wp7 by ratio of 15:1, and by symbian at 3:1.. but this is only on their stores or he maybe a android fanboy!
i am monitoring a facebook page of windows phone 7, the first day i monitored it there where 250,000 plus people who like it that was 3 weeks ago and now it grows to 500,000 plus likes, from this we can see that windows phone 7 is getting lots of user or maybe people are liking it and waiting to get their own in the future.

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The forces opposed to WP7 will be active all the way to the release of the update. They will actually be even more pronounced because of this information. So I hope MS does impress. Because if they don't, the system will suffer massively because of the heightened opposition.
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I don't think your comment is fair. I've been using MS products since MS DOS 2.0 right up till Windows 7. Never missed a release. Likewise the same with Windows Mobile or Pocket PC 2000 as it may be and as you can see from my sig.
All that being said WP7 was abysmal for a 1.0 release. It's nothing to do with nay-sayers. They released a great OS with too missing out of the box. This update if it comes to fruition would prove those 'nay sayers' as you called them right. In fact we may need to thank them because if MS went with people like you (no offense intended) who thought it was a great 1.0 release we may never get that update.

What exactly makes WP7 in its current state "abysmal"? And MartyLK's statement is spot on, WP7's detractors focused solely on the missing features and completely ignored the things WP7 does well OOB compared to other OS's, like multimedia playback, Office, gaming, new UI that doesnt clone the alternatives and dont forget making phone calls (which some high profile phones struggled to do when they were released). So where exactly is the "abysmal" part of WP7?

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What exactly makes WP7 in its current state "abysmal"? . . . . . missing features and completely ignored the things WP7 does well OOB compared . . . . .?
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LOL! You seem to have answered your own question buddy. You've got to understand that no one is calling WM crap; nor am I comparing it to other OS's. I'm actually comparing it to PPCPE; the first generation.
If you feel WP7 is better compared to other OS's then you are probably right. My 2nd cellphone that I owned in 2001 was the Pocket PC phone Edition. Even that iteration had more functionality and features than WP7.
What people are upset about is not the promising factor of WP7; its going to be a great OS no doubt about it but that doesn't elude the fact that significant features were held back till an 'update'.

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LOL! You seem to have answered your own question buddy. You've got to understand that no one is calling WM crap; nor am I comparing it to other OS's. I'm actually comparing it to PPCPE; the first generation.
If you feel WP7 is better compared to other OS's then you are probably right. My 2nd cellphone that I owned in 2001 was the Pocket PC phone Edition. Even that iteration had more functionality and features than WP7.
What people are upset about is not the promising factor of WP7; its going to be a great OS no doubt about it but that doesn't elude the fact that significant features were held back till an 'update'.
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Whatever its compared to, PPCPE, android or ios I dont see how adding features later in its life cycle makes it so abhorrent. Doesnt account for your statement that its "abysmal". Lets not forget, previous versions of WM were feature packed but for various reasons performed poorly so they are hardly a model to compare to WP7 which seeks to put performance first.

alabij said:
LOL! You seem to have answered your own question buddy. You've got to understand that no one is calling WM crap; nor am I comparing it to other OS's. I'm actually comparing it to PPCPE; the first generation.
If you feel WP7 is better compared to other OS's then you are probably right. My 2nd cellphone that I owned in 2001 was the Pocket PC phone Edition. Even that iteration had more functionality and features than WP7.
What people are upset about is not the promising factor of WP7; its going to be a great OS no doubt about it but that doesn't elude the fact that significant features were held back till an 'update'.
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You must be one of the few who never kept up with the news about WP7 from before it was released. It was widely known that the features absent currently would not be in the release version. I knew that and a great many knew that. I also know that what WP7 is currently is pure quality. I also expect future features for it, as well.
The ppl who are crying and moaning that WP7 is short-lived and bad because of the lack of these features are the ones that are referenced. They have zero excuse for saying what they say, if they are in-the-know. They are vocal and heard. How is it possible when someone like myself, who is nothing in the industry knows more than the ones who are centered in the industry? How is it possible that I and the multitude of XDA'ers know these features would be missing in the release version and they do not know that?

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What exactly makes WP7 in its current state "abysmal"? And MartyLK's statement is spot on, WP7's detractors focused solely on the missing features and completely ignored the things WP7 does well OOB compared to other OS's, like multimedia playback, Office, gaming, new UI that doesnt clone the alternatives and dont forget making phone calls (which some high profile phones struggled to do when they were released). So where exactly is the "abysmal" part of WP7?
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Nicely said...

will updates be done how HD2 was? have to reset to factory on install? or will it be more like Droid, u just get notice it installs and runs without a hard boot?
any one know?

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will updates be done how HD2 was? have to reset to factory on install? or will it be more like Droid, u just get notice it installs and runs without a hard boot?
any one know?
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Update with no reset, most likely just a re-boot 100%.

Paul Nur said:
Update with no reset, most likely just a re-boot 100%.
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good news, cant wait to see

MartyLK said:
You must be one of the few who never kept up with the news about WP7 from before it was released. It was widely known that the features absent currently would not be in the release version. I knew that and a great many knew that. I also know that what WP7 is currently is pure quality. I also expect future features for it, as well.
The ppl who are crying and moaning that WP7 is short-lived and bad because of the lack of these features are the ones that are referenced. They have zero excuse for saying what they say, if they are in-the-know. They are vocal and heard. How is it possible when someone like myself, who is nothing in the industry knows more than the ones who are centered in the industry? How is it possible that I and the multitude of XDA'ers know these features would be missing in the release version and they do not know that?
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I have a feeling that no matter how I repeat myself my words will still get twisted. I don't recall ever stating that I wasn't aware that numerous features would be missing from WP7 on release. Nor do I recall dismissing them. I am simply stating a criticism of the current OS from an urban masses perspective.
You are looking at WP7 from your perspective of understanding. Remember your view make sense to you and me and probably every other geek or tech inclined person out there. However MS is in the business of making money not satisfying the tech fetishes of geeks.
Let me simplify my point. if you took your grandma to an ATT store. What phone do you think the store rep would sell her and why if she had an option between a WP7 and an iPhone. Take a moment before you reply and note I said "store rep"?

alabij said:
I don't think your comment is fair. I've been using MS products since MS DOS 2.0 right up till Windows 7. Never missed a release. Likewise the same with Windows Mobile or Pocket PC 2000 as it may be and as you can see from my sig.
All that being said WP7 was abysmal for a 1.0 release. It's nothing to do with nay-sayers. They released a great OS with too missing out of the box. This update if it comes to fruition would prove those 'nay sayers' as you called them right. In fact we may need to thank them because if MS went with people like you (no offense intended) who thought it was a great 1.0 release we may never get that update.
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Here is what I responded to. You say (the red words). I say it has everything to do with these "nay-sayers". They are in-the-know and are complaining that WP7 is crap because of it's lack of features. If they are in-the-know, they knew it would lack these features. They are in fact treating WP7 as if it is all it will ever be. The fact that they are in-the-know and no doubt knew about its lack of features at launch means they are opposed to WP7 no matter what. They are the ones who will be even more vocal in opposition to WP7 now that the public knows there is a huge update planned.
The nay-sayers aren't fair-minded common users. They are the opposition to WP7.

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Here is what I responded to. You say (the red words). I say it has everything to do with these "nay-sayers". They are in-the-know and are complaining that WP7 is crap because of it's lack of features. If they are in-the-know, they knew it would lack these features. They are in fact treating WP7 as if it is all it will ever be. The fact that they are in-the-know and no doubt knew about its lack of features at launch means they are opposed to WP7 no matter what. They are the ones who will be even more vocal in opposition to WP7 now that the public knows there is a huge update planned.
The nay-sayers aren't fair-minded common users. They are the opposition to WP7.
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Dont you feel (if not agree); that it's these flood of people that are forcing MS to release this update of missing features in early 2011. Meaning that if you keep saying something is perfect then how will the manufacturer know. Why do you think every store, website, business aske for surveys.
Without the so called Apple "nay sayers" complaining about copy/paste it would have never happened. Now ask yourself. How many people do you know who use an iPhone use copy/paste?

alabij said:
Dont you feel (if not agree); that it's these flood of people that are forcing MS to release this update of missing features in early 2011. Meaning that if you keep saying something is perfect then how will the manufacturer know. Why do you think every store, website, business aske for surveys.
Without the so called Apple "nay sayers" complaining about copy/paste it would have never happened. Now ask yourself. How many people do you know who use an iPhone use copy/paste?
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I understand what you are saying but I disagree with you in intent of purpose. Nay-saying from general, user, public is what will drive the OS to loftier heights, if MS does in fact listen to them. I'm not fully certain of that. I think of MS as doing their own thing, to their own drumbeat rather than catering to the public. The nay-sayers you are referring to are an obstacle to survival because they are -in-the-know and the general public listens to them. They will not ever like WP7 because they oppose it, no matter what. They will twist everything they can to destroy it before it's up and running.

People... people... people... Microsoft rushed this phone to market. They new exactly what they were doing. They wanted to capture a piece of the Christmas shopping pie. And we jumped in because we are sick of Apple and their iPhone. I mean really a battery that you can't replace???? Get with it Apple !!!! I digress... As I stated in a previous thread Microsoft will do what Apple did and in half the time. In fact it wouldn't surprise me at all if it surpasses iPhone in less than a year. I mean why oh why did Microsoft come out with a totally new Phone OS ? Because they know the current platforms will not support future funtionality and cloud services. They sank millions into this and they are not going to play second fiddle to Apple or Google in this space. So did we buy our WP7 phones for what it can do? No.... we bought it because of what it will be able to do. Yes it is lacking some defacto funtionality (copy/paste) but would you have rather spent your money and upgraded to iPhone4 and have a nice paper weight in 6 months? Yes there will be nay sayers. Heck I even say iPhone still sucks despite their advances. And if you think iPhone is so great, talk to me when you can swap the battery in 20 seconds or less. So bring on the the releases Microsoft and make us smile ! We know you have done the market research and we know you are going to bring great things to this platform.

I am a big MS fan and waited very patiently for WP7. I must say I was rather underwhelmed with the initial release and cannot wait for numerous updates that will bring it atleast on par with the functionality in W6.5
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No settings to decide how you want the phone to behave after a delete
No hierachial folder list
NO ability to search your mailbox.
Cannot select all to mass act on criteria
No ability to custmize font, color in emails. most new androids do this
People Search
Cannot search people by file as field or company.
Other issues
Wifi Mac address hidden
No Flash. Atleast recognize a you tube URL and send us to m.youtube.com
No Bluetooth settings (cannot change behavior of phone when paired) ie voice commands dont work.
Phone menu doesnt separate missed, incoming and outgoing calls.
Cannot forward a txt message
No Wifi router
No Remote desktop
No Swype keyboard
All of the above are painful ommisions for me. if the hardware on my Imagio wasnt so damn slow I would be back using it.

for search .... in the program you are in, mail, music, phone, click on the bottom right hand search symbol (last one on right). Type what you are searching. If there is a match it will find it quickly... yes some of the other features are not there yet (release coming soon). Not sure by the last one? No Swype ?

HD7 vs Sensation

I am wondering if i should get rid of my HTC HD7. I see the new HTC Sensation and everything looks far superior. Just want a word from you guys before i make the move. Any ETA to when T-Mobile will have them in stock? Also i saw some guy on kijiji selling a HD7 with Android 2.2 on it. I prefer Android over WP7.
Like come on m$ didnt even make a MSN Messenger yet.
And check out the Music player... how ridiculous they don't have a feature to make playlists and why cant videos play in background? why do they just stop when u exit? Sure if a call is coming it can stop... but other than that...
And it had no copy/paste... even though they released copy/paste there is no cut and paste... And they tell us if we jailbreak the phones we wont get the copy/paste feature... like come on that is so bs cause iphone and android phones come with copy/cut/paste.
And importing/exporting the contacts is so f***ed... skydrive and live profile are only way...
And no microSD expansion slot.. just one damn internal slot and if that doesnt work you are left with 15MB of storage.. great.
No proper GPS Navigation other than what we have done so far.. Navigon modded.
I have my HD7 upgraded to 32gb and it has the mugen battery. Any ideas on how much i should sell it for.. it has all the xbox live games and most of the apps.

MSN Messenger is available in the Marketplace, this is an MS approved messenger client so don't expect MS to make another one.
Of course you can make a playlist, just longpress any song you want to add to your current "Now Playing" list and select "Add to Now Playing". It won't appear under the "Playlists" section as this requires Zune but no big deal, at least you've got a list of songs playing you want to play.
Copy/Paste has arrived (although i don't use it). If you think Jailbreaking any device will give you automatic updates without consequences you're mistaken.
Contacts backup are one of the greatest features imo. I've got every single contact linked to my Gmail account so if i ever hard reset all i have to do is link my Gmail account to my phone. Easiest way i've ever known on any device.
I think you should probably put a selling price of £500 and hope that the next person knows absolutely nothing about the device before buying it too. Take your games/apps for example. You obviously have no idea of how these work. So i'll help you out, the next person to buy the phone won't be able to use them (unless they use YOUR email address to set up the phone).

Yeah ! I am inclined towards the HTC Sensation as well now..
Have to make up my mind between Samsung Galaxy S2 and the HTC Sensation..
But I haven't been disappointed with WP7 at all
1. Messenger by Miyowa is the Official MSN messenger ( I dont use it anyway)
I guess it is really down to personal choice.
I have an Htc Hero and Boy I flashed so may Roms on it and now I am nearly sick of flashing All the Lovely Roms on it
WP7 bought something Fresh and New and it serves my daily purpose, the only truely bit that I miss is the navigation, but I guess it will come in the Mango update.
I might sell my HD7 later on , but I doubt anyone will give more than £300 for it if I am lucky, with the new HTC HD7 S being out as well.. or might just keep it
I seriously want to get a NOKIA WP7 when they release theirs next Year cause I am sure the will rock like hell.
As far as I know If Apple doesn't come with something New or different... Android and WP7 will blow them out of competiton
If you think WP7 is ****ty have a look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BDlvG8k5rE
Its just one of the things you will be able to do with it

you know what really grinds my gear, - Posts like this
I got my HD7 for only 1 reason, to have WP7. i knew hardware is the same as HD2, but hey, i couldnt wait for a working port of the OS to HD2. Android was just getting boring as well...
Do i still like my HD7 - yes,
Would i want Sensation instead -yes, definitely, if it came with WP7, but it doesn't, so what's the point. Just calm down and wait for chassis 2 of WP7 devices.
Unless you really don't care about what OS you are using, just switch and move on, hardware wise its definitely the way to go....

Thank you all for your valuable replies. I agree wp7 can be better in the future but hardware wise HTC sensation is the way to go. Alright I will be putting my hd7 up for sale.
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Do i love my HD7? The answer is YES, OF COURSE...
I owned an HD2 before i bought HD7. HD2 is an amazing phone, and HD7 is the same since they have almost the same hardware (even same errors...). I knew that they had already hacked successfully WP7 on HD2, but i just couldn't wait. I sold my HD2 and then bought the HD7. I totally love it.
HTC sensation has a really good hardware (at least it has the dual-core CPU), and Android is not bad. I just get used to the WP7. I don't think i will change the phone for at least 1 year, until HTC pull out something running WP7, i will consider about it.

Strike_Eagle said:
Do i love my HD7? The answer is YES, OF COURSE...
I owned an HD2 before i bought HD7. HD2 is an amazing phone, and HD7 is the same since they have almost the same hardware (even same errors...). I knew that they had already hacked successfully WP7 on HD2, but i just couldn't wait. I sold my HD2 and then bought the HD7. I totally love it.
HTC sensation has a really good hardware (at least it has the dual-core CPU), and Android is not bad. I just get used to the WP7. I don't think i will change the phone for at least 1 year, until HTC pull out something running WP7, i will consider about it.
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I agree with everything you said there.. I owned a HD2, which i thought was fantastic.. I'm just an MS fanboy and have to have the latest and greatest they do.. So as of now i have a HD7 and love it.
I hear what you are saying about the Sensation, but that is still not released. If you take a look at what is going on at MIX11 you will see that the new specs for chassis 1 it specifies Qualcom MSM8x55 chipsets which are a generation ahead of what's in the HD7 now, so quicker OS and GFX (even quicker than it is now!!!). It'll outperform the Sensation even with a older chipset
Hopefully looking forward we'll see an adoption of the QSD8x72, putting WP7 shoulder to shoulder with its Android bretheren in hardware.. We all know that speed wise WP7 is killer!
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Take a look here:
http://www.qualcomm.co.uk/products/snapdragon
It shows that the MSM8x60 chipset is indeed going to be used for WP7 handsets..
I'd keep using the HD7 and take advantage of all the wonderfulness that it exudes and wait for the SUPER hand sets coming in the future.

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I am wondering if i should get rid of my HTC HD7. I see the new HTC Sensation and everything looks far superior. Just want a word from you guys before i make the move. Any ETA to when T-Mobile will have them in stock? Also i saw some guy on kijiji selling a HD7 with Android 2.2 on it. I prefer Android over WP7.
Like come on m$ didnt even make a MSN Messenger yet.
And check out the Music player... how ridiculous they don't have a feature to make playlists and why cant videos play in background? why do they just stop when u exit? Sure if a call is coming it can stop... but other than that...
And it had no copy/paste... even though they released copy/paste there is no cut and paste... And they tell us if we jailbreak the phones we wont get the copy/paste feature... like come on that is so bs cause iphone and android phones come with copy/cut/paste.
And importing/exporting the contacts is so f***ed... skydrive and live profile are only way...
And no microSD expansion slot.. just one damn internal slot and if that doesnt work you are left with 15MB of storage.. great.
No proper GPS Navigation other than what we have done so far.. Navigon modded.
I have my HD7 upgraded to 32gb and it has the mugen battery. Any ideas on how much i should sell it for.. it has all the xbox live games and most of the apps.
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you are B#$%%$#@& about the things which every one knew from day one....

tfn said:
Yeah ! I am inclined towards the HTC Sensation as well now..
Have to make up my mind between Samsung Galaxy S2 and the HTC Sensation..
But I haven't been disappointed with WP7 at all
1. Messenger by Miyowa is the Official MSN messenger ( I dont use it anyway)
I guess it is really down to personal choice.
I have an Htc Hero and Boy I flashed so may Roms on it and now I am nearly sick of flashing All the Lovely Roms on it
WP7 bought something Fresh and New and it serves my daily purpose, the only truely bit that I miss is the navigation, but I guess it will come in the Mango update.
I might sell my HD7 later on , but I doubt anyone will give more than £300 for it if I am lucky, with the new HTC HD7 S being out as well.. or might just keep it
I seriously want to get a NOKIA WP7 when they release theirs next Year cause I am sure the will rock like hell.
As far as I know If Apple doesn't come with something New or different... Android and WP7 will blow them out of competiton
If you think WP7 is ****ty have a look at this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BDlvG8k5rE
Its just one of the things you will be able to do with it
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i am also waiting for the Nokia to launch their WP7 device.... it will be fun... at least i will have a choice of HArdware now only HTC... (please dont take me wrong i tried samsung but they are not as good as HTC)..

Ya... Samsung Omnia 7 sux big time.
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The HTC sensation is a great looking phone but it runs Android and as much as I love Android, it doesn't have the fluidity of WP7 and I love the fact that the OS and UI works perfectly well with the hardware for the most part.
As much as I love Android, there is generally no balance....The software never fully balances with the hardware...leaving a half-done and disappointing experience.
That being said, I am contemplating a switch BACK to android for the xperia play.

I say wait for WP7 to get the 2.5 GHz Quad Cores when ever they come out.
(Qualcomm APQ8064)
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drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I say wait for WP7 to get the 2.5 GHz Quad Cores when ever they come out.
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The beauty of WP7 is that it is perfect on single core processors. Dual-core and quad-core processors will drain the battery faster but as WP7 is already super-fast, they won't add anything to the user experience, thus rendering them a bit pointless TBH.
I would much rather just see the 1GHz processor-based phones drop in price and maybe get more efficient batteries, as battery power is the biggest issue facing WP7 phones, not processor speed.

Jim Coleman said:
The beauty of WP7 is that it is perfect on single core processors. Dual-core and quad-core processors will drain the battery faster but as WP7 is already super-fast, they won't add anything to the user experience, thus rendering them a bit pointless TBH.
I would much rather just see the 1GHz processor-based phones drop in price and maybe get more efficient batteries, as battery power is the biggest issue facing WP7 phones, not processor speed.
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The Quad is supposed to get better battery life than the HD7's single core. According to the press release, 75% less battery draw,
To meet this challenge, Qualcomm created its next generation architecture and integrated four new, low-power CPU cores and its advanced Adreno® graphics into the APQ8064, enabling it to offer twelve times the available performance as well as 75 percent lower power than the first generation of Snapdragon processors.
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