I was thinking of going for one. They are only 149.
Should I just wait and forego? I have an 8525 that I upgraded to WM6 and and I just changed the case on it and it works like a champ, at least for now.)
You you guys think with the driver issues I should wait for the next new device or go for the refurb.
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150 isnt bad for the device.. if ur into watching movies on your phone stick to 85..
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150 isnt bad for the device.. if ur into watching movies on your phone stick to 85..
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I do use my slingbox and I watch movies and Star TreK TOS eppys.
I guess I better stick with it.
I can't believe they'd eff up that bad and screw up on the market base they established on the 8525.
DAYUM.
Do yo u know what the next device is?
where?
i am not thrilled with the driver situation, but my tilt is better for me in many ways than my old 8125...where can i pick up one for 149? my gf would love this as a bday gift.
150 !!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i want it for 150...can i return it for a refurb please....
I bought my 8925 new for $125 after rebates. Had to sign up for a new AT&T plan though. Have to be a new AT&T customer.
Hey Xultar, come on over. Despite the driver fever I'm telling you flat out that the Kaiser is better than the 8525. I've used it for hours on end streaming my Slingboxes over WiFi and 3G without issue. I also play videos (encoded at 320x240 with bitrates under 500kps) that I've used with all my portable gear from Archos units to iPAQ's and they play just fine on the Kaiser as well.
I'd be more concerned with the lower volume on bluetooth ear pieces compared to the 8525, it's useable but a little irratating that it's not top notch.
The unit has been so stable that I've not needed to flash from the stock Kaiser rom, just using a bunch of cabs and Kaiser Tweak. The GPS is really an awesome addition, worth the trade-up alone in my book. I looked into insurance and it was more than $149 so when ATT had a Thanksgiving sale, I picked up a Tilt for $149 and keep it in the box as my insurance. If I do put it in service, I will flash it for sure, prolly to Sleuth's v1.1 as I like it the most, slim and solid.
If you do it, I'm betting that you will be happy.
ordered mine on ebay 2 days ago. Pretty reasonable price being from Canada
... is that 150 on a contract? I'm in Canada
newegg.com has it for cheap too.. 2yr contracts newegg's are BRAND NEW.. but u kno what refurbs arent bad.. 1yr warranty on them
That's about what I got mine for on sale, after rebate, & with a two-year contract.
I just don't know if I can. I'm really concerned about the driver issue and just keeping what I have working. I can't live without my slingbox or video Star Trek TOS eppys. Plus the bluetooth on the 8525 was to low for me. I couldn't imagine it being lower.
What is coming down the pike? Maybe I will go for it. I just need to think. I also need to find out how many upgrades I get a year. That may impact it as well.
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Hey Xultar, come on over. Despite the driver fever I'm telling you flat out that the Kaiser is better than the 8525. I've used it for hours on end streaming my Slingboxes over WiFi and 3G without issue. I also play videos (encoded at 320x240 with bitrates under 500kps) that I've used with all my portable gear from Archos units to iPAQ's and they play just fine on the Kaiser as well.
I'd be more concerned with the lower volume on bluetooth ear pieces compared to the 8525, it's useable but a little irratating that it's not top notch.
The unit has been so stable that I've not needed to flash from the stock Kaiser rom, just using a bunch of cabs and Kaiser Tweak. The GPS is really an awesome addition, worth the trade-up alone in my book. I looked into insurance and it was more than $149 so when ATT had a Thanksgiving sale, I picked up a Tilt for $149 and keep it in the box as my insurance. If I do put it in service, I will flash it for sure, prolly to Sleuth's v1.1 as I like it the most, slim and solid.
If you do it, I'm betting that you will be happy.
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I have a brand-new in box AT&T 8525 (HTC Hermes). I got it yesterday when my original Cingular 8525 stylus silo would no longer hold the stylus properly. AT&T sent me a crappy refurb (obvious cosmetic flaws) so I complained nicely and got a brand-new one instead!
I have been using a Blackjack in the meantime (Samsung SGH-i607) which has been meeting my needs and I am now eyeing the HTC Kaiser with lust and envy (deadly sins...)
I'm not dying to sell but if the right offer came along... PM me if you want to negotiate and I might be persuaded to part with it...
after all the difficulties you had getting it replaced, now you're going to get ride of it??? wow.
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after all the difficulties you had getting it replaced, now you're going to get ride of it??? wow.
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Its a smart decision, not many people have NEW 8525's. Also as soon as the Kaiser comes out the 8525 is gonna drop in price, which means he'll get less regardless of new or old. You should get rid of that a.s.a.p. But if I were you I would save up for the shift instead of the kaiser.
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Its a smart decision, not many people have NEW 8525's. Also as soon as the Kaiser comes out the 8525 is gonna drop in price, which means he'll get less regardless of new or old. You should get rid of that a.s.a.p. But if I were you I would save up for the shift instead of the kaiser.
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@neptune:
You're right, this would be a smart decision if I was intent on wringing out every nickel for the 8525 but I am self-employed and my time is too valuable making money on a contract basis to spend it dickering over a few dollars. When I am going to upgrade a device, I typically undersell the market a few bucks to get the sale over with. I actually come out ahead this way all things considered.
I still have it new-in-box...
I have decided to sell my new-in-box AT&T 8525 to the first person who PayPals me $395 US plus shipping. No lowballers, please. This is a fair price and I'm not in a hurry to sell. PM me if you're interested. I'm only advertising it on xda-developers for now; I hate putting up with the herd over at HoFo.
I've had my HTC TyTN (same thing as an 8525/Hermes, etc) and it's been the best device I've ever owned!
For anyone considering purchasing one, you won't regret it.
If I didn't already have one I'd jump on the offer.
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$395 US (PayPal) takes it, buyer pays shipping. Still 100% virgin, new-in-box. C'mon, you know you want it... Reasonable offers now being entertained.
SOLD
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I lost my T-Mobile Kaiser a couple of weeks ago and am using my lovely Universal at the moment but I need to get something smaller.
What's the best value on the market at the moment?
It has to be unlocked because I have 12 months left on my flex web and walk!
The Kaiser is around £470 unlocked which I can't afford
I want
Good battery life
3G
HSDPA
Bluetooth
GPS
Wifi
WM 6
Mobile Office
Smallish
Lightweight
Camera (but this is low priority)
Yes I know I want it all but hey!
I have looked at the Asus P750 as the best fit so far and it seems to have good reviews.
HP 614, read about that too, but it said it had a poor feel to it (build quality)
Also read about the MWg Atom V
Any thoughts?
I am guessing you are in the UK. You might want to consider whether your household contents insurance covers you for loss of personal property (mine doesn't, my parents does). Guess you'll have to weigh it up between new phone and excess/no-claims loss.
Otherwise, you *might* want to consider buying a Hermes/Trion/Vario 2 second hand. These are not entirely dissimilar to the Kaiser and go for £100 to £150 on ebay, but they do not have GPS built in, so you'd have to buy an external device. For comparison, last I saw Kaisers were going for over £300 on ebay.
Hope that helps.
Surely insurance or warranty will cover a lost phone?
Funny you should ask this, cos a few days ago THIS THREAD was posted about a guy who'd basically found/stole a Kaiser, could it be....?
kaiser
im selling mine, im the uk, im looking for around half that price - around 260.
Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks
Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.
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Its worth as much as a standard Kaiser probably, and a bit more than an AT&T Tilt. But the main place for selling phones is eBay; so prices vary widely. You can probably get upwards of $650 for it.
You do know that in some respects the Kaiser beats the pants off that Atom thingy? For one thing, it has a keyboard. It also has GPS and a 3.1MP camera instead of a 2.0MP. There is also a much larger ROM community for the HTC phones than for the Atom.
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Hmmm...I agree with some of what you say about the Atoms now after doing some more research.
One thing that's struck me is the customer service feedback about the Atom's manufacturers. Very few have anything nice to say about the service they received if something went wrong with their device. I'd be in fear of ever needing them.
The main things that have attracted me to the Atom phones so far is the use of Intel Xscale chips, better video support and the use of Sirfstar III chipsets for GPS. I don't need a high spec camera so I'm not bothered by the lack of high pixel capture.
In my experience of using old HTC devices (Universal, Magician) and some new ones (Trinity / P3600 and Kaiser), the older ones seemed faster for some reason. I don't know for sure but the Intel architecture seems better than the Qualcomm.
Also, the Sirfstar III GPS hardware wipes the floor with Qualcomm's equivalents in my experience and doesn't need QuickGPS to get a very fast lock in a built up city like London where I live.
Why did HTC start using these dodgy Qualcomm chips?
I'm still undecided...I just hate waiting with computers / PDAs etc...They should just work, and work fast. Maybe I'm asking for too much.
Anymore opinions?
You in the UK? Is the V1615 on contract?
Not impressed by those Atoms...
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Just wondering...
Picked up a new V1615 (Vodafone Kaiser) from a Vodafone store just now because that's all they could offer me.
I really, really want an Mwg Atom V (details) or Atom Life which has some amazing specs (details) instead though.
So I want to sell the Vodafone brand new boxed and unopened, SIM free and unlocked.
What kind of price can I expect for it?
Thanks
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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!
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That's all they could offer? You have got to be kidding, there isnt a better phone on voda, and you must pay silly amounts monthly to get that offered to you.
also, note, the vodafone one is unlocked from factory.
Though i did manage to pick one up for £20 a month on my contract for an upgrade, free! but i have a hell of a business head when it comes to negotiating!
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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case
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heh heh
I meant that's all they could offer me in terms of high spec PDAs and I wasn't interested in Blackberrys.
I pay about £45 a month on my contract, but it is an 18 month one. Not bad, but then I've been with Voda for almost 10 years now.
Anyway....I've seen them go on ebay for around £350. Tempted to sell...Still not sure...Still haven't opened the box.
So noone really recommends the Mwgs? If that's the case then I don't really have any other options and I'll just use the Kaiser.
Maybe one day someone will find out how to enable all the great hardware inside the case
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I was gonna say! the kaiser isnt that bad mate, i havent come accross one issue with regards to graphics, plus, got a kiddies psp for games!!, sat nav works faultlessly, good quality phone, my battery life is fine. Keep it
If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.
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If not, ebay mate, your best bet, but watch vodafone dont pick up on it, as it is "actually" theirs unitl youve paid your years contract off etc.
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No it's not - it's 100% your property, and your problem. That's not conditional on anything. The contract debt is separate - you owe them the value of that regardless of what you do with the phone. Sell it, keep it, give it back to them, you still owe the contract sum whatever you do.
selling phone
sell htc
wait 4/5 months
go get sony xperia ..
simple
or
have a look at the glofish 800 series
Up for sale is a gently used AT&T Tilt. I've owned it for around 6 months now and have loved every minute of it...selling because there are many options I still don't use so I am downgrading a little.
Slider is still strong as ever, only a couple of minor blemishes as seen in the pics. (scratch on bottom left of battery cover & silver over camera area worn off a little)
INCLUDES: AT&T Tilt phone, USB Cord, Wall Charger and I am throwing in a fresh 4gb MicroSDHC card...plenty of space for adding songs!
This phone has been security unlocked (Spl 3.56) and the ROM can be set to whatever you choose without issue. Current ROM (PDACornerUltimate v11) includes Manilla2d which is a great, finger-friendly menu slider...also utilizing WM6.1.
Asking $300
Let me know if you have any questions.
-Jeff
First and only bump...if no takers/offers then it is going on eBay.
To be honest, I dont think you are going to get many hits with a price point of $300. You can get a refurb from ATT ( literally like new ) for $99.
Goodluck selling it though
You're right...$99 with a 2yr contract on AT&T's network.
Thank you for the luck.
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To be honest, I dont think you are going to get many hits with a price point of $300. You can get a refurb from ATT ( literally like new ) for $99.
Goodluck selling it though
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Are you interested in buying it ? if not what does it matter what he sells it for or wants for it ? I have seen many of these threads , and the OP generally gets what he wants for it, me I prefer that the value stay up on the Tilts..
$300 is not unreasonable
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Are you interested in buying it ? if not what does it matter what he sells it for or wants for it ? I have seen many of these threads , and the OP generally gets what he wants for it, me I prefer that the value stay up on the Tilts..
$300 is not unreasonable
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I will sell you mine for $300. I have an 8GB microSD and extra power supply.
;-)
Mark
I just skimmed Ebay, and there are over a dozen with with buy it now prices from $200 to 350 plus shipping some with mem cards other with out.
so his asking price is with the norm..
thanks misfitflt but I already have too many toys as it is...
Thanks, F250, I appreciate it.
Should have updated this earlier...sorry.
Phone sold for $250, dents and all. Not too shabby for ~7 months of using it.
Oh...and hello 16gig iPhone.
Hey, Sorry to spam with a general question.
My current phone is on it's death bed (SE P900). I want to upgrade to an X1a (via rogers in canada) but i'm a little worried if I should or wait it out for an X2. I'm over all very keen on getting either an X1 or X2 (due to an actual keyboard and a stylus based touch screen, I just can't use an iphone touch screen at all, plus the OS pisses me off). I'm also looking to maybe do some xperia panel programming on the side (mostly making some small simple games with some simple use of 3d).
I think I could wait it out for an X2 but i'm worried it's going to be a long 6-8 months+ before it's available in canada. Not to mention I expect the price to be a little too high for a while. Yet if I get an X1a now, my wife is not going to let me upgrade again for another 2-3 years. =)
So should I wait or just go a head and get an X1 now?
if you want to wait i suggest you hold out for a snapdragon powered device that you prefer. If you dont want to wait just get the X1. The X1 and X2 share the same hardware apart from certain differences, so your not really losing anything hugely important
Not sure what price your getting from rogers, but i got my x1a just awile ago for $1 signing a 3 year contract so i pretty much had nothing to lose upgrading. I usually do a hardware upgrade every 1-2 years and sign a new contract with a better plan each time. I highly suggest talking with customer relations as only they can give you better deals than whats advertised.
How much is Rogers letting you upgrade the phone for? I think I'm getting ripped off through customer relations...
PsychoAssassin: When did you sign the 3 year contract? I did mine last week and it was absolutely nowhere near $1...
PsychoAssasin,
What is your current plan? I'm kind of happy with my plan that I got 6 years ago.
Rydock said:
How much is Rogers letting you upgrade the phone for? I think I'm getting ripped off through customer relations...
PsychoAssassin: When did you sign the 3 year contract? I did mine last week and it was absolutely nowhere near $1...
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Back durring christmas, if you signed a 3 year contract they were giving away a X1 for only $1.
personally I would get x10 or the newer android models
as wm7 is likely to be closed land for other wm devices
and wm6.X is a dead platform
I renewed my contract and chose the $50/month plan with a couple of freebies on top. They're charging me $149 + $35 administration for the X1 with a $50 "hardware upgrade" mail-in rebate. The site says the phone is only $99 for a 3yr term, so what's the deal? Does the hardware upgrade rebate take off the $50 I was supposed to be saving to begin with? Something doesn't sound right, but the lady I spoke to told me that was the price that was showing up for her. I'm defnitely going to call back to see if there's anything I can do, since I like this phone. I'm still under the 15 days grace period.
PSmonkey64: How much are they charging you for the X1? I definitely want to get a better price for mine.
hardware upgrade prices can and will most often differ from new contract prices. But recently Rogers has changed their hardware upgrade policy to now say that all clients are eligible for new customer pricing after 2 years. So Rydock if it has been 2 years you are eligible to get the X1a for $99 + $35 admin fee. On top of that you can use the $50 mail in rebate to effectively bring the cost down to $49.99 + $35 admin fee. This policy doesnt apply to corporate customers, which is why I had to pay about $300 (without signing up for data) for it about 2 months after it came out on the rogers network
regarding the grace period, remember its 15 days or 30 mins of talktime whichever comes first.
PSmonkey64,
if you are dead set on getting a sony ericsson Xperia, Rogers will be getting the X10 in Q2. If you were to wait for an xperia let that be the model of choice
Yeah, I've been with Rogers for over 3 years, and they were asking for $149. I'll give them a call tomorrow to sort this out.
I haven't put my sim in the X1 yet because I've just been playing around with it to see if I liked it. I've decided to keep it, so I'm just trying to figure a way to get all my contacts from my razr to my X1. Also, I want to use the new sim since my old card is all beat up and scratched. How do I go about doing this, or do I have to call Rogers?
To the OP, sorry for the thread hijack. I'd say the X1 would be totally worth it because of the low price and supposed slightly stronger units. Also, there is tons of support here.
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Yeah, I've been with Rogers for over 3 years, and they were asking for $149. I'll give them a call tomorrow to sort this out.
I haven't put my sim in the X1 yet because I've just been playing around with it to see if I liked it. I've decided to keep it, so I'm just trying to figure a way to get all my contacts from my razr to my X1. Also, I want to use the new sim since my old card is all beat up and scratched. How do I go about doing this, or do I have to call Rogers?
To the OP, sorry for the thread hijack. I'd say the X1 would be totally worth it because of the low price and supposed slightly stronger units. Also, there is tons of support here.
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yea the rogers xperia has a slightly new build which helps prevent cracks, but i did manage to develop one right beside the power bottom, but i would blame myself from the numerous times i dropped it.
your best bet for contact transfer would be to use the moto software to sync contacts with outlook and then sync your x1 with outlook.
for the sim card, call rogers, they will/will not deal with it as im not sure on their policy towards that.
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personally I would get x10 or the newer android models
as wm7 is likely to be closed land for other wm devices
and wm6.X is a dead platform
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Hmm, why so negative?
I just feel that as it is looking right now
android is a safer bet then wm
wm7 seem to be more a evolution of zuneHD then old wm
and don't think the classic app store from ms will improve too much with more focus being put on wm7
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I just feel that as it is looking right now
android is a safer bet then wm
wm7 seem to be more a evolution of zuneHD then old wm
and don't think the classic app store from ms will improve too much with more focus being put on wm7
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Well, I kind of disagree on that...
I mean we can only guess but I don't imagine
WM beeing really not open in some way and competitive.
My feeling is that MS will drastically cut the price of WM 6.X to manufacturers, so that there will continue to be a big base. I think we'll continue to see no-frills but nice hardware phones like the LG Expo start to come in at the $400 price range and below. The WP 7 phones will get all the press and be the headline phones for the carriers and cost $600-$800 unsubsidized. I think MS will just gradually improve the finger friendliness and look of WM 6.X with a few more releases. As processors and hardware improve, it should become a fast and lightweight OS. Not a bad outlook, in my opinion.
Well just to note an update.
I end up coughing up the extra $$$ (and convincing the wife) and buying an X2. The reason being I saw one on ebay being sold by a person only 10 mins away that was barely used.
So far i'm loving it. I do have a question for anybody who might know, How do I get the X2 to auto connect to my home's wifi when i'm home? Messing/configuring the phone i've had to restart it a few times and every time it starts with wifi turned off.
Now to figure out how the hell to setup the xperia sdk (the emu isn't properly running, also it seems I can't debug opengl ES with it?).
take a Toshiba TG01. it's much cheaper.
Both X1 and X2 use legacy CPU... I think you may consider other alternatives...
Too... late.
If only people would read newer post.
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