hey all i have a friend thats interested in getting a kaiser. he said he went into the att store the other day and they said he would have to get a pda data plan to purchase the phone. he said he did not want it and they told him it was a requirement and that they could not sell him the phone without it.
currently he has a razr phone and been using the mediamax bundle with the 200 messages. i told him to try and buy it from somewhere other than att and swap out the sim card. so basically what we would like to know is, can he purchase a tilt, from another purchaser like an online store or ebay, and just swap the sim card? if not can he use the phone without any data plan at all? or would he hear from att? thanks
I got mine from ebay, brand new and sealed, unlocked. Popped my Sim in and it works like a charm.
If he does buy it from elsewhere, just make sure it is UNLOCKED, otherwise you'll have to spend some money unlocking it. And I've never been a fan of unlocking phones, my dads done it twice and they both screwed up after a while...
Got my tilt from the at&t website and was able to keep the 19.99 unlimited media plan the store told me this was the way to do it
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Good Afternoon,
bought a tilt on newegg with a two year contract, Since I work in a area that is susceptible to moisture, I wan to interchange phones between the new and a crappy one. Has anyone been charged for changing equipment? or even using it on another line?
Thanks in advance
you're in luck, with a gms service, you can just pull the sim card and place it in another gsm phone and away you go again
Anyone know if att reports it to neweeg that you have switched sims? I just want to cover myself before I attempt this. (haven't received the phone yet.)
When you buy a handset from a store, they usually hand you off to the cell company. Except, possibly, for repairs, you will probably deal directly with AT&T for now on. That said, AT&T doesn't track phones, they track SIM cards. You can switch your SIM card between phones all you want. I have an old Motorola V505 (unlocked) that I switch my SIM into anytime I'm somewhere I don't want to take my Kaiser (such as the beach), it's not uncommon. I have 3 other phones in use on my account, none of which are the original phones purchased from AT&T.
razdigital said:
Anyone know if att reports it to neweeg that you have switched sims? I just want to cover myself before I attempt this. (haven't received the phone yet.)
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Neither Newegg nor AT&T care about which phone you use. They only care that the service plan associated with the SIM card is not lowered or canceled during your contract term.
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Neither Newegg nor AT&T care about which phone you use. They only care that the service plan associated with the SIM card is not lowered or canceled during your contract term.
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not planning on canceling or downgrading but that small smidgen of that terms and condition got me scared a bit. Thanks.
They don't really even care what sim card it is, just that you have a service plan and pay them a monthly amount. You would have to call them or go to a store to change sim cards, but it can be done. You can also downgrade your service without penalty, but canceling completely will prompt an ETF.
So basically my roomie was kind enough to let me use his discount to buy a note 3 since i'm not eligible for a while.
Obviously the phone is for me, even though we bought it thru his account.
So do I still need to call AT&T and activate the phone (it came with a sim card in the package)
Or i can just ignore the sim card and calling them and just use the new note 3 with my sim card, and he uses his iphone with his old sim card thats already in there.
Do you know how does the whole thing work?
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So basically my roomie was kind enough to let me use his discount to buy a note 3 since i'm not eligible for a while.
Obviously the phone is for me, even though we bought it thru his account.
So do I still need to call AT&T and activate the phone (it came with a sim card in the package)
Or i can just ignore the sim card and calling them and just use the new note 3 with my sim card, and he uses his iphone with his old sim card thats already in there.
Do you know how does the whole thing work?
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If you already have your own SIM card linked to your account, just put it in the phone and you are good to go as long as the phone is an ATT model. Also the phone will only work with a MicroSIM regular sized SIMs will not fit this phone.
On ATT the phone has no bearing on your account. What you are paying for is the SIM. I bought a Lumia when my contract renewed with ATT. Could not stand it so I bought an N3 full price and slapped my card in it. The device is even updated on my account on the website as being a N3 and not a Lumia.
oh cool.
So i dont have to do anything?
ATT doesnt care that the phone was never activvated?
idobref said:
oh cool.
So i dont have to do anything?
ATT doesnt care that the phone was never activvated?
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On ATT phones are not activated. They are ready to use out of the box. The SIM is the key. All your account data is linked to the SIM, not the phone. You can use any phone that ATT sells on your account and you don't have to buy it from ATT . I bought my N3 on Amazon at full price but I still use it on my Lumia account. The exception is if you use a smartphone on a none smartphone account, when they see it on the network they will upgrade you and charge you accordingly. You cannot use ATT with a smartphone on a standard phone account.
OK let me shed some light. If you call and give them the imel number of the new phone then its registered and if you have the insurance it will automatically be transferred to the new phone regardless where you got it. That's the benefit. I have my Lumia insurance with att and my note 3 and s4 with square trade.
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i bought att note 3 on ebay. i just put my sim card in. it work perfectly.
ww3funs said:
i bought att note 3 on ebay. i just put my sim card in. it work perfectly.
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are you sure it isnt a fake one.
Well, I searched a bit and couldn't find what I was looking for, so my question is, has anyone ordered the T-Mobile version and successfully activated it online through the T-Mobile website? If so, how did you do it? When I go to the activation page, it's asking for an "activation code" that I don't seem to have. I'd really like to save myself from having to go to the T-Mobile store to get it up and running, but it looks as though that's going to be my only option.
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Well, I searched a bit and couldn't find what I was looking for, so my question is, has anyone ordered the T-Mobile version and successfully activated it online through the T-Mobile website? If so, how did you do it? When I go to the activation page, it's asking for an "activation code" that I don't seem to have. I'd really like to save myself from having to go to the T-Mobile store to get it up and running, but it looks as though that's going to be my only option.
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What you want to do is call T-Mobile on your current mobile phone (their 611 number) and tell them that you want to activate your new phone that came with a smaller T-Mobile simcard. They'll ask you for the 890 code on the new sim card that comes with the phone. Once you give that to them, they should be able to activate the card for you and you should be good. Make sure to call them on your current phone, or whichever phone number you're trying to activate, so they can verify that it is you.
I actually did all of this yesterday. I thought I would have had to go to the store to pick up an new simcard also, but it was that easy. Got it activated in 5 minutes. Have fun!
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What you want to do is call T-Mobile on your current mobile phone (their 611 number) and tell them that you want to activate your new phone that came with a smaller T-Mobile simcard. They'll ask you for the 890 code on the new sim card that comes with the phone. Once you give that to them, they should be able to activate the card for you and you should be good. Make sure to call them on your current phone, or whichever phone number you're trying to activate, so they can verify that it is you.
I actually did all of this yesterday. I thought I would have had to go to the store to pick up an new simcard also, but it was that easy. Got it activated in 5 minutes. Have fun!
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Awesome! Thanks for the tip! What I want to do is have them port my verizon number and get on their $30/mo. prepaid plan.
Try calling them but I think you can only get the $30 dollar pre paid plan by signing up on the web site,
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Awesome! Thanks for the tip! What I want to do is have them port my verizon number and get on their $30/mo. prepaid plan.
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This is exactly what I want to do is well. You can do it on the website, but what I have been trying to search is if the SIM in the phone will work with the prepaid plan. The paper it comes with says your T-mobile SIM is already in the phone. However, I have no idea if it'll work on the $30 plan. I ordered 2 SIMS from the site today under their prepaid section because I thought nothing came with the phone.
So this is what i'm stuck on. Can I activate the phone online with the $30 plan with the SIM included, or do I need to wait for the ones I ordered & pop them in? Those are the nano SIM starter kit no activation ones on their prepaid site.
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Try calling them but I think you can only get the $30 dollar pre paid plan by signing up on the web site,
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Right, that's why I wanted to do it online. I ended up ordering a new sim from t-mobile which was FREE (nice!) and activated online that way. I'm rock'n and roll'n now!
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This is exactly what I want to do is well. You can do it on the website, but what I have been trying to search is if the SIM in the phone will work with the prepaid plan. The paper it comes with says your T-mobile SIM is already in the phone. However, I have no idea if it'll work on the $30 plan. I ordered 2 SIMS from the site today under their prepaid section because I thought nothing came with the phone.
So this is what i'm stuck on. Can I activate the phone online with the $30 plan with the SIM included, or do I need to wait for the ones I ordered & pop them in? Those are the nano SIM starter kit no activation ones on their prepaid site.
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I don't know if the sim that comes ships in the phone from motomaker will work. My problem was I couldn't find an activation code for the one that came with the phone. It said you had to call, but the website says you can only do the prepaid plan by activationg online or buying at walmart. I didn't bother calling because by the time i was ready and able to call, the new sim i ordered from t-mobile had arrived in the mail, so I crossed my fingers and tried that one instead. Good news is that it worked. My suggestion would be to do what I did and wait for the new sim to arrive in the mail because it will have an activation code unlike the the motomaker sim. You should just be able to swap the new one in and activate online for the prepaid plan of your choice. I didn't have to mess around with phone settings or anything. It did take about 24-36 hours for them to completely port my number though, so keep that in mind and don't cancel your current plan with your current carrier until the t-mobile phone is completely activated. For awhile, both were active and all calls/ texts were still going to the verizon phone, while I could send texts and make calls from both. Good luck!
I'm on a family More Everything plan with shared data on Verizon and I finally became eligible for an upgrade. I'd like to know how I could use the upgrade to get a N6. What I've heard is that some people are upgrading to an iPhone 6+ and then selling it, then buying a N6 at full price. But I don't understand the details of that. Wouldn't the iPhone be activated/used at that point? How would I sell it at a new phone price? Also, I heard that Verizon charges a fee if the new phone isn't activated within a certain period after purchase. Would that be a problem if I bought the iPhone first (and didn't activate/open it), resold it, then waited for a N6 to become available to buy?
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I'm on a family More Everything plan with shared data on Verizon and I finally became eligible for an upgrade. I'd like to know how I could use the upgrade to get a N6. What I've heard is that some people are upgrading to an iPhone 6+ and then selling it, then buying a N6 at full price. But I don't understand the details of that. Wouldn't the iPhone be activated/used at that point? How would I sell it at a new phone price? Also, I heard that Verizon charges a fee if the new phone isn't activated within a certain period after purchase. Would that be a problem if I bought the iPhone first (and didn't activate/open it), resold it, then waited for a N6 to become available to buy?
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There is no problem buying a phone on contract, activating it, then giving it to someone else or selling it. The buyer takes a risk that you cancel your contract and skip out on the Etf, in which case Verizon will blacklist the phone. But they will not prevent you from selling the phone or someone else activating it. The buyer simply brings the phone to Verizon to obtain a SIM card.
So if I went into my VZW account online and ordered an iPhone 6+ with my upgrade, would it arrive in a retail box unactivated or does VZW activate it for you with the SIM installed?
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So if I went into my VZW account online and ordered an iPhone 6+ with my upgrade, would it arrive in a retail box unactivated or does VZW activate it for you with the SIM installed?
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It arrives unactivated with a SIM tied to your account. If your intent is to sell, then I would activate it, then switch back to your old phone. You could just sell it unactivated, but your account might get stuck with a pending activation..which might eventually fall off.
Will my old sim remain activated after I activate the new one? I'm upgrading from a DNA which uses a micro sim. If it takes a while to sell the iPhone I'd like to keep using my old phone. I've never sold a phone before.
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Will my old sim remain activated after I activate the new one? I'm upgrading from a DNA which uses a micro sim. If it takes a while to sell the iPhone I'd like to keep using my old phone. I've never sold a phone before.
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It will not. Just go to a Verizon store and they will switch you back for free. Might be able to call and do it.
Hm, so would it make more sense in that case to buy the N6 first (whenever it becomes available), then use my upgrade to get an iPhone and resell it? That way I could immediately activate the sim in the N6 and not even touch the iPhone. Or does the sim have to first be activated with the iPhone because that's what VZW is expecting to see on the account?
I'm confused. Are the N6 phones carrier locked?
I travel to Europe every other year for about two months to see family and I normally just pickup a pre-paid SIM while I'm there for my phone. Last trip I called up AT&T International and told them my plans and they got my IMEI from me and gave me the code to unlock my phone so I could pick up a pre-paid SIM. This was in there best interest as it kept me a happy customer and I renewed my contract when it was up. I've since sold that phone to help cover part of the cost of my AT&T N6.
Yesterday I contacted AT&T International again and asked for the same thing. This time I'm told they do not do that and never have and that I need to go threw some link to request it to be unlocked. Unfortunately that link very specifically says you have to finish your contract of pay the ETF or if Next, pay off the device.
This is NOT what happened last time. I was 100% for sure under contract, I was 6 months into my new contract with AT&T as a NEW customer. This time around I'm a renewed customer and they will not do this for me.
This is going to make me leave AT&T on principal. Unlocking my phone does not release me from the agreement I signed but as mentioned above does keep me a happy customer.
Googling I found this... Seems this is a new thing and others have had issues. Interesting the way they kissed his ass when they found out he writes tech reviews and said they were looking into ways to help out international travelers with this, looks like they have done nothing.
http://arstechnica.com/staff/2014/11/atts-outdated-unlock-policies-cost-it-a-loyal-customer-me/
So I happened to mention to a friend I need to look into moving to Sprint or something else that will buy out my contract so I can have a phone to take with and he said ummm I don't think N6's are carrier locked.
Now I know I could buy a cheap phone but its the point of the matter. EVERYTHING I do is on "this" phone. I don't want to take two phones, I want to take THIS phone and I don't want to pay for AT&T International service.
@kdoggy
Yes, AT&T N6 is carrier locked. You can not get the unlock code from AT&T unless your device is paid off.
But there are a number of 3rd party companies that will sell you the code for $10 to $25. Look for an older thread in this General section with a title something like "undo AT&T customization".
Or do a Google search for carrier unlock codes.
This phone wasn't carrier locked out of the box was it? I remember now when I first set it up I followed some instructions to NOT get the AT&T customizations that involved removing the SIM etc but then the second time I re-flashed the phone I forgot to do that and now I get the carrier crap. Previous to that my Google Play account KNEW it was an Nexus phone but did not know what carrier it was. It just said Unspecified Nexus 6. After that refresh without removing the SIM for the first part of the setup, it now gets the crap and Play says AT&T Nexus 6.
Sigh, OK yeah I'll pay $10~25.00 dollars. I'm not happy about this on principal though. Them unlocking my phone does not release me from my contract. Looks like I may have to evaluate in another few months when my Next is up.
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Yes, the AT&T version was carrier locked out of the box.
Ah OK. Yeah just read the thread you spoke of. Sounds like the SIM card thing was just for the bloat.
OK well this helped, screw AT&T, I'll just pay the money and remember this next go around. We have been on a family plan for the past few years but I'm in the middle of a divorce right now so I may just go Verizon when this contracts up. Nothing keeping me on AT&T anymore. Previously it was just because the wife and kids were on AT&T too.
I can say for a fact that the Tmobile version of the N6 comes unlocked. I got mine and was able to pop in my att sim without having to unlock it. I even got it replaced through warranty (bad battery) and was able to use my At&t sim on this one too. But as far as I know Tmobile and the international version are the only ones to come unlocked.
The Sprint and Verizon models are unlocked as well.
The US Cellular version is totally unlocked as well...for all carriers.