WM5 on S720? - HTC Wings

Now Telus tells me the S720 can be flashed "down" to WM5 and it will then have MMS support.
So... any clues on how to do this? Or more to the point, where to obtain WM5 for it??

You dont have MMS on your device?!

Um, no... I have another thread on this topic already. The S720 is loaded with WM6, which doesn't have MMS support. Some providers apparently load Arcsoft MMS Composer to provide this capability; mine (Telus) has chosen not to.
From everything I've garnered so far, WM5 has the capability built-in, and a Telus tech has informed us that the S720 CAN be flashed to WM5 to get the MMS support.

Soundy106 said:
The S720 is loaded with WM6, which doesn't have MMS support.
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The S730 has MMS support. I'm not sure what the S720 is?

Well, the closest cousin to it I could find, going by the pictures with the forums. You don't appear to have a forum specific to this phone... I don't know what "cute" name, if any, it's been given.
http://telusmobility.com/bc/pcs/handset_htc_s720.shtml

mm
Yes it seems to be a HTC phone just for TELUS in Canada. Seems to be a variation of the S730. Uses the MSM7500 instead of the MSM7200
MMS is there on the S730 and wm6 so i dont really know why you havnt got it. Very strange

Since years, HTC is using Arcsoft MMS on their devices. the s720 is also HTC-Made.
Unfortunately microsoft still hasnt integrated an own MMS client :-(
But it's the first time since years that I've heard of a HTC-made phone without the Arcsoft MMS client...

Apparently Telus doesn't think anyone needs this feature anymore - their story was that NO PDA-style phones have this support because they can send pictures though email instead - no consideration for sending pictures to others who DON'T have email capabilities. "Oh, but everyone will have PDA phones within a year" according to one rep... doesn't help much RIGHT NOW, does it, ****er? He also informed us that NO PDA phones have EVER been able to send MMS messages... really? My Treo 650 from your competitor does it just fine.
Anyway, this is some very interesting information that I can use with Telus... we're pretty miffed about all this - well, my wife is, because before they sold us on our new contracts and these new phones, she was happily sending picture messages to her cousin from her RAZR (which our store agent was amazed to hear, she didn't think that was possible either), and now she's ready to ditch the whole thing to go back to her RAZR. I mean, she loves the phone, the little keyboard, the surfing and email and IM and everything, but...
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Maybe get the mms software from the Verizon version of the phone? Or install WM6.1?

The S720 is for Canada and Qwest communications in the central / northern US, the Verizon version is the SMT 5800 and has a different outer casing, dont think the hardware changed other than to work on their set up.
I wouldnt want to downgrade os's, dont know if it would happen but some hardware might not function properly without the drivers from the latest version that was installed on the phone. Is there a third party app that will allow you to do what you need? Weird that they would disable that feature, wouldnt it be built into windows and disabled somehow?

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Newb Alert...T Mobile MDA USA Questions

Ok, i'll be receiving my T Mobile MDA this week. I want a clean ROM, and the best radio. But I still want all the functions/features to work (MMS, etc.).
If i understand right, it would be using this radio upgrade, the 2.47.11 rom. Is that correct?
And for the ROM, I could use Molski's, or Ell's AKU3.2.
I'm not really sure on all the terminology, like AKU, or IPL/SPL....so some help would be great. I've tried to use the WiKi on here, but some parts are left out. Thanks.
You mean Wizard MDA Vario Rom Upgrade???
You can access this page
Or Download
Have fun
no i'm from the US, getting the US T MO MDA. Looking for a clean rom with nothing in the rom that is carrier specific; i.e. splash screens, color schemes, anything like that. I want the best radio upgrade and the best rom.
May I suggest you live with the MDA at least a month before you flash it? The 2.47 radio rom is the best I've ever used. I'm using T-Mobiles 2.26 rom. If you don't want the custom T-Mobile options that come with the ROM you don't have to load them. Just do a hard-reset and when it says it's loading the custom cabs just do a soft reset and load the ones you want.
I had an MDA before, a couple months ago, and loved it, but had to return it. Now I am porting my line over to T MO, and I remember doing the 2.24 upgraded rom when i got that one...and it was great. One thing I remember not liking about it though was my MMS. I couldn't send picture messages when connected to wifi. Has there been a fix for this?
no fix
im not sure there is a fix for sending mms when on wifi. the phone uses GPRS to access the MMS server on the tmo network . When wifi is on then GPRS usually drops. if i were you i would just send the picture message as an email. that way there are no messaging charges. you can send it to their phone # [email protected] and all other carriers have the same type of email set up
here is a site with all the cellphone email addresses http://www.hiptools.net/sms/

T-mobile MDA Hotspot @ Home?

I hate to post topics that might have been covered...but i've searched and searched until i got a headache and figured I'd just ask....
From what I understand, from a t-mobile representative I know, there is a download able patch for the wing that will allow you to use hotspot @ home (that is use your mobile phone and mobile phone number to place calls through ANY active wifi network you can connect to) and also one for the sidekick..which is irrelevant considering the platform...
Anyways, I have a wing and went to t-mobiles site and see nothing about downloading this fabled update but haven't found anything.
Long story short: does this exist, and if it does, has anyone tried messing with it (i.e. cooking something up) so it works for the MDA?
I love my MDA and the wing is really..well...the same thing, with a few new lame features.
I, too, have a T-Mobile MDA and REALLY want to use this service. I can't understand why I wouldn't be able to utilize the MDA's built in WiFi features with the service. Anyone done found any helpful hints since this thread was originally posted?
I understand this thread is old, but wanted to chip in and voice my curiosity for this as well.
I have the MDA and have been very happy with T-Mobile. But after moving to a new place recently, I have NO coverage inside my home.
The MDA is a very capable phone and I'm sure that [email protected] is usable on it with just a software installation. Although, does anybody have a clue as to how to make that happen?
xdamaddy said:
I understand this thread is old, but wanted to chip in and voice my curiosity for this as well.
I have the MDA and have been very happy with T-Mobile. But after moving to a new place recently, I have NO coverage inside my home.
The MDA is a very capable phone and I'm sure that [email protected] is usable on it with just a software installation. Although, does anybody have a clue as to how to make that happen?
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The only WM phone that I'm aware of that can possibly be used with [email protected] is the Hp IPAQ 510 that has not been provosioned for AT&T.
There are two SKU's for this phone-one for AT&T, and one that is unlocked.

Problem Text Messaging outside of my home!

Hello guys, i'm about to pull my hair out from frustration! I have an unlocked Tilt, on T-Mobile running on the HTC windows 6.1 Rom and for some reason i cannot send or receive text messages if i leave a good distance from my house!
Once i'm near my house by a block or so i'll receive and send text messages no problem, but there are patches around my town where i can't send or receive it. I tried switching my Sim card to an older phone and texting where i couldn't text on my Tilt, and the texts went through no problem, i just need to know if it's my phone or the carrier's fault. I plan on testing my Tilt and Wing in the same area's to see if that can shed some light, but i need help!
True2TheGame said:
Hello guys, i'm about to pull my hair out from frustration! I have an unlocked Tilt, on T-Mobile running on the HTC windows 6.1 Rom and for some reason i cannot send or receive text messages if i leave a good distance from my house!
Once i'm near my house by a block or so i'll receive and send text messages no problem, but there are patches around my town where i can't send or receive it. I tried switching my Sim card to an older phone and texting where i couldn't text on my Tilt, and the texts went through no problem, i just need to know if it's my phone or the carrier's fault. I plan on testing my Tilt and Wing in the same area's to see if that can shed some light, but i need help!
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What's the reception like? You might try flashing a new radio, might give you better reception in some patches. What wm6.1 rom/radio are you using?
Currently my Rom Version is 3.03.405.0 WWE
Radio Version 1.64.06.04
I've tried countless rom's at first i thought it was because of windows 6.1 so i tried the HTC Windows 6.0 rom which didn't work either.
If you think i could use a better rom would you please let me know, i'm willing to do anything to fix this problem!
Thanks
i think it has nothing to do with a better rom...its just if the radio is fitting for the location u are at
True2TheGame said:
Currently my Rom Version is 3.03.405.0 WWE
Radio Version 1.64.06.04
I've tried countless rom's at first i thought it was because of windows 6.1 so i tried the HTC Windows 6.0 rom which didn't work either.
If you think i could use a better rom would you please let me know, i'm willing to do anything to fix this problem!
Thanks
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I have several wm6.1 radios in the link in my signature. try them and see what you get. i am using the niki 1.58.16.27 radio. i like it the best, but it really depends on your location
thank you for your reply's i will try different radio's and see which one works best for me, thanks once again.
True2TheGame said:
thank you for your reply's i will try different radio's and see which one works best for me, thanks once again.
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no problem man, that's what we're all here for.
One quick question about Radio's, are they just for signal strength? because i can make and receive calls just fine in areas, but no matter how strong my signal is i still can't send/receive text messages.
True2TheGame said:
One quick question about Radio's, are they just for signal strength? because i can make and receive calls just fine in areas, but no matter how strong my signal is i still can't send/receive text messages.
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well i don't know for sure that changing the radio will make any difference but it might help. you're having that trouble just with the sms huh? and always only in those areas?
Yeah it seems touch and go, in some places it refuses to work, but in others, such as my home it works flawlessly. It even worked on the freeway on the way to Canada, and even in Canada on Roger's network. I tried calling T-Mobile and they thought it was weird how it works in some areas but not others.
True2TheGame said:
Yeah it seems touch and go, in some places it refuses to work, but in others, such as my home it works flawlessly. It even worked on the freeway on the way to Canada, and even in Canada on Roger's network. I tried calling T-Mobile and they thought it was weird how it works in some areas but not others.
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that does seem very odd. hopefully the radio change helps, otherwise you'll have to find someone wiser than me to help you, or just chalk it up to a network glitch. good luck
True2TheGame said:
thank you for your reply's i will try different radio's and see which one works best for me, thanks once again.
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Please make a follow-up post to let us know what your findings are. It's an interesting problem you're having, and your data could be very useful for this and other issues!
So far tried a number of different radios and still haven't fixed the problem, but i've singled out the problem as the Phone, as i tried texting in places where i couldn't with my Tilt, on 2 different phones, one being the Tmobile Wing and they went through with no problems.
I'm gonna try Dutty's 6.1 rom and see if that changes anything, i'm pretty much trying anything that works now.
True2TheGame said:
So far tried a number of different radios and still haven't fixed the problem, but i've singled out the problem as the Phone, as i tried texting in places where i couldn't with my Tilt, on 2 different phones, one being the Tmobile Wing and they went through with no problems.
I'm gonna try Dutty's 6.1 rom and see if that changes anything, i'm pretty much trying anything that works now.
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So just to be clear, when you use an unlocked Tilt on T-Mobile's network, you have difficulty receiving text messages. But when you put your SIM into a T-Mobile phone (Wing), text messages come through fine? If I understood your posts correctly, and my summarization is accurate, then it sound to me as if the Tilt is having problems accessing data services when its roaming off T-Mobile's network.
I would make a note of 3-5 specific areas where you have problems with SMS (ie 300 Block of N Maple Ave), and then call T-Mobile and ask them where their closest cell tower(s) is/are to those areas.
If my memory serves correct, T-Mobile uses GSM 1800/1900 in the US, but AT&T is still mostly 850/1900, and the Tilt may have issues receiving SMS messages while on a GSM 850 tower. You mentioned that the phone worked in Canada on the Rogers network, maybe they are on 1800/1900. Can someone from Canada confirm this last part??
These are just some thoughts of mine as I mindlessly watch TV, so who knows, I could be entirely wrong...
NotATreoFan said:
So just to be clear, when you use an unlocked Tilt on T-Mobile's network, you have difficulty receiving text messages. But when you put your SIM into a T-Mobile phone (Wing), text messages come through fine? If I understood your posts correctly, and my summarization is accurate, then it sound to me as if the Tilt is having problems accessing data services when its roaming off T-Mobile's network.
I would make a note of 3-5 specific areas where you have problems with SMS (ie 300 Block of N Maple Ave), and then call T-Mobile and ask them where their closest cell tower(s) is/are to those areas.
If my memory serves correct, T-Mobile uses GSM 1800/1900 in the US, but AT&T is still mostly 850/1900, and the Tilt may have issues receiving SMS messages while on a GSM 850 tower. You mentioned that the phone worked in Canada on the Rogers network, maybe they are on 1800/1900. Can someone from Canada confirm this last part??
These are just some thoughts of mine as I mindlessly watch TV, so who knows, I could be entirely wrong...
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Hmmm interesting, now if i informed T-Mobile of this problem is there any way to remedy it without having to go back on a Tmobile phone?
is your tilt set to text through gprs or gsm? that might make the difference..
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Hmmm interesting, now if i informed T-Mobile of this problem is there any way to remedy it without having to go back on a Tmobile phone?
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If it is an issue with GSM 850, then you may be stuck with running cooked ROMs based off of AT&T originals since their network still supports this frequency. To my knowledge there are no WM 6.1 ROMs with an AT&T base currently available.
It could also be a hardware issue... The section of flash memory on your device that stores the radio could have bad sectors (GSLEON3 would be someone who may be able to help you check this).
How did you come to get the Tilt? If you know someone with AT&T service, you can have them put their SIM in and then call AT&T Warranty and get the phone replaced under the 1 year warranty.
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Second thought... Have you tried to force the phone into 1800/1900 GSM through the Band Settings tab under Settings --> Personal --> Phone --> Band ?
Currently it's set as GSM, do you think i should change it to GPRS?
NotATreoFan said:
If it is an issue with GSM 850, then you may be stuck with running cooked ROMs based off of AT&T originals since their network still supports this frequency. To my knowledge there are no WM 6.1 ROMs with an AT&T base currently available.
It could also be a hardware issue... The section of flash memory on your device that stores the radio could have bad sectors (GSLEON3 would be someone who may be able to help you check this).
How did you come to get the Tilt? If you know someone with AT&T service, you can have them put their SIM in and then call AT&T Warranty and get the phone replaced under the 1 year warranty.
Second thought... Have you tried to force the phone into 1800/1900 GSM through the Band Settings tab under Settings --> Personal --> Phone --> Band ?
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Hmm i didn't even think to check their, i'm going to try it right now and report back.
EDIT- So should i be setting it at GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) or GSM(1900+850)+UTMS(1900+850)?
WOW, Finally, thanks everyone for help but forcing the phone into the GSM 1800 band worked now i can finally fully enjoy my Tilt, Thanks once again!

Diamond sends SMS after each boot

I got me a Touch Diamond in the rounder shape of the T-Mobile MDA Compact IV. It came in a sealed box from eBay and I've used unlocking software that I also found on eBay. As it turns out, this software seems to originate from this forum.
As far as I've researched it, right after the lock was removed, the phone started sending SMS messages to the number SMS032837 each time it is reset (since I've never used this phone locked it *could* have done this already, but I doubt it). Even if I switch off the GSM radio, and then reset, the phone waits for the radio to come back on and immedately sends a message.
I have no clue to what's the message is about or whoever is the recipiant but that's not the main issue here; it should not do this, period.
ROM: 1.37.110.3
Radio: 1.20.OliNex
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09U
Anyone any idea what is going on?
TIA,
XDArjen
sorry i dont have any idea
try this steps
1-try hard reset
if not work
2- you have an old ROM so
upgrade it to the latest ROM for your country or use cooked ROM if you want
Could a program similar to RemoteTracker be installed on your Diamond ?
That would explain the SMS, as the software detects that you changed the SIM card.
yea sounds like some program like remotetracker, try flashing a new ROM, as i assume it's build into the ROM by the seller, no idea why though.
xdarjen said:
I got me a Touch Diamond in the rounder shape of the T-Mobile MDA Compact IV. It came in a sealed box from eBay and I've used unlocking software that I also found on eBay. As it turns out, this software seems to originate from this forum.
As far as I've researched it, right after the lock was removed, the phone started sending SMS messages to the number SMS032837 each time it is reset (since I've never used this phone locked it *could* have done this already, but I doubt it). Even if I switch off the GSM radio, and then reset, the phone waits for the radio to come back on and immedately sends a message.
I have no clue to what's the message is about or whoever is the recipiant but that's not the main issue here; it should not do this, period.
ROM: 1.37.110.3
Radio: 1.20.OliNex
Protocol: 52.26a.25.09U
Anyone any idea what is going on?
TIA,
XDArjen
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Hi,
I`ve got MDA Compact IV on T-Mobile UK with original ROM and Radio (I just need to) and I`ve noticed that after every re-boot it sends above mentioned by you text.
Actually, it sends 2 texts: 1st to 32837 (on the on-line bill it`s clasified as
"unbranded" and it`s free of any charge)
2nd to 100203005 (clasified as "SMS text messaging" and it is also free).
I was surprised as well, so started to investigate.
I`ve found that above texts got something to do with W`n Walk service and T-Mobile My Faves and they are like a system messages.
They are NOT using any of the tariff allowances and they are completely free.
I`m sure because I`m checking my bill very carefully every month and it is my 3rd bill since I started using Compact IV.
I think that every HTC Diamond and MDA Compact IV sends those texts when logging into GSM Networks, but not every network provider shows them on their bills. With T-Mobile it shows on My T-Mobile On-Line account, but not on any paper or electronic bill.
There is more info about the case on other forums, just "google" them numbers and you will find it.
So, DON`T PANIC, everything is in order.
P.S.
My handset is unlocked and I was using foreign SIM card with, whilst on holiday and I haven`t noticed any extra charges for above texts, nor any other problem.
Regards.
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Could a program similar to RemoteTracker be installed on your Diamond ?
That would explain the SMS, as the software detects that you changed the SIM card.
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Hey snark_be,
I'm not sure, it's a brand new T-Mobile that I got in a sealed box. The owner got it as an upgrade but didn't want it. So it came locked to T-Mobile and I had to unlock it since I'm not a T-Mobile customer.
Could T-Mobile be using this tracking method? The seller of the unlocker could have added it, I don't know, he hasn't answered my email (yet).
The SMS goes anytime the device boots, not just after inserting the SIM.
HTC ROM upgrade site rejects my serial number if I want to download a new ROM.
Addicteddddd said:
yea sounds like some program like remotetracker, try flashing a new ROM, as i assume it's build into the ROM by the seller, no idea why though.
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That was the plan, but that seem's a bit of a hornet's nest. Can I assume safely that the T-Mobile is a true HTC Touch Diamond? Will I be able to return to non-brick if something doesn't work? I mean when I install Hard-SPL first (it's installed already by the unlocker, but an older version, like 1.24)?
kowalsky_tom said:
Hi,
I think that every HTC Diamond and MDA Compact IV sends those texts when logging into GSM Networks, but not every network provider shows them on their bills. With T-Mobile it shows on My T-Mobile On-Line account, but not on any paper or electronic bill.
Regards.
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Tom, they show up on my bill, so I have to pay for them. And my provider logs them as International calls.
I don't have the luxury of sitting idle because it make the device useless as a phone. I will peruse the forum about this matter but I was already planning upgrading the ROM as I find the device very unresponsive.
have a look in the rom section here and install a new one
xdarjen said:
That was the plan, but that seem's a bit of a hornet's nest. Can I assume safely that the T-Mobile is a true HTC Touch Diamond? Will I be able to return to non-brick if something doesn't work? I mean when I install Hard-SPL first (it's installed already by the unlocker, but an older version, like 1.24)?
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Just flash the latest HardSPL, 1.93 I think, and then head over to the Diamond Wiki and download/flash the newest WWE ROM you find (1.94 I think).

T-Mobile Setup on HTC Tilt

I called up ATT and got the unlock code for my friends old HTC Tilt, unlocked and placed my T-Mobile SIM card in it which has an active voice + text + web account on it, with the default ATT Rom on it I was only able to set it up to do voice and text, whenever I tried using the Data connection for like let's say IE it would bring up a page for web2go, even after Flashing the phone with different ROMs I found on this great site and went through the auto communication setup for t-mobile, and still it only does voice + text, any ideas?
Right now here are my specs:
HTC Tilt
R: 1.70.19.09
G: 25.83.40.02H
D: 3.TPCElite
HardSPL 3.29
Let me know if you need any more info..
Call T-Mobile Support
Same thing happened to me last night. I called them this morning and they fixed it in about 10 minutes.
ok cool, so I should just call them up and they should be able to tell me what to do? or do you know how?
thanks in advance,
-b3ck
There should be a cab file somewhere that sets it all up for you.
I called up T-Mobile and talked with one of their non-supported device technicians (they have an entire support dept. of these guys) and it was actually on their end, they had to allow the IMEI to use the Data plan, because basically the phone was like Hi let me use the Data on the Network and the network was like what's your name? and the phone was like I'm John Smith, and the network was like your not on the list sorry.
So.. yea I was talking with a very smart tech support lady @ T-Mobile, she even mentioned these forums, she said she recommends it to people that have devices that aren't supported by t-mobile she even wanted to know which ROM I flashed onto my Tilt =)
Anyways everything is good to go now, thanks everyone!
-b3ck
Did you have to slip here a fiver?
ChumleyEX said:
Did you have to slip here a fiver?
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huh? I don't know what that means..
I have an issue. I just switched my entire plan over to the even more plus. On my old plan I had tzones and it works great for everything. Now I have the web2go. The problem is not getting the device to work on the internet2.voicestream.com, that works fine, but it is the battery drain. In a 4 hour period it will kill a full battery. When I remove the internet2 setting then the battery lasts all day. anyone else see this issue. BTW I'm using the JJblaster 23518 and radio 1.70.18.02
what do you all think, a bit odd for it to drain the battery that fast?
b3ck said:
huh? I don't know what that means..
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Doh it should have read, "did you slip HER a fiver" in other words, did you tip her?

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