the word "LOL"? - Off-topic

i don't know why i have spurts of funny hatred when i see a use of the word 'lol'.
i am still comfortable with LMAO, OMG, WTF but its the 'lol' people use when it is least expected......rather it least fits.
LOL as i know is abbreviation of
"laugh out loud" (most common)
"lots of luck" or "lots of love" (less common--infact non-existant)
Now, if somebody cracks an awesome joke...and people use this word to express their hearty laugh,its still ok.
But these days its being plain overdone, i'll give you some good examples;
it was my first rollercoaster ride, it was awesome lol..
lol..my cousin kicked the sh*t outta me
it was my uncle's funeral ..lol..
eeew .. i forgot...its your birthday lol
SORRY..LOL!!
lol..you are funny!
omg , i gtg srry....catch'ya later lol..
if somebody is so amused by such crap that he/she feels like laughing so bad...i feel that person's got to be the biggest loser around.
and if 'lol' in itself was not enough for some people they invented similar words - 'lolz' or lolzz or lolzzz (add more z's to make it stronger)
wtf is lolzzzzz? -'lots of laughs and then suddenly dozing off?" Thank heavens keyboards don't have feelings!
just wanted to share this thing with you guys. how do you all feel?
sorry if i offended some 'lollers'!
PEACE

yeah the
"lol it's jesus"
jokes really show how language can be turned into the enemy of all living things
but then guess older people have always felt that the younger crowd abuses the language

mariner_heart said:
and lastly i am sharing my views and i seriously don't mean to offend 'lollers'!
all views are welcome. correct me if i am wrong somewhere!
PEACE
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LOL!
Coming to the point, yeah, its annoying these days. People use the word 'LOL' just for no reason. I cannot figure out, if it makes them feel that they're cool.
Also, people also seem to use 'LMAO' for no reason! Do they really 'laugh their ass off'? *no*

and i am so proud that i've never used this damn word in my general english except for when i talk about it being a symbol of "wannabes"
and i won't use it until somebody points a gun at my head and tells me to type 'lol'
.......and i'll feel like such a loser afterwards!
and yes- i am don't contribute to younger crowd spoiling the language as i am myself 20 years of age!

lol to me has always meant and always will mean "lots of love."
so when i see it all over the place, i just think "what a lovely world it is that we live in, all this love around in the air"

flykthewiz said:
lol to me has always meant and always will mean "lots of love."
so when i see it all over the place, i just think "what a lovely world it is that we live in, all this love around in the air"
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Aye, I thought the same and thus used it at the end of some SMSs, etc. when it simply wasn't appropriate according to what the recipient understood it to mean.
A lass I was very much into some years back thought I was slightly making fun of her as I ended most of my SMS with lol and she eventually asked why I always thought that fairly innoccuous remarks warranted laughing out loud at the end.
Naturally, I felt a right Herbert. Since then I've only used it in the way everyone else does. Not that I use a lot of abbeviations anyway: I tend to punctuaute SMSs or any other messages in the normal way, not least because I used to be a grammar teacher.

wikipedia gives the bast answer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lol

Penny for your thoughts
I think that there is so much shorthand that people place into what they write, that even this generation has forgotten to even spell the very words! "lol" is so misused, as well as things like "4, lmao, (and what ever else is out there!!)", (show how behind the times i am!!!) If there was not the bulk of the SMS (Short messaging Services) out there, maybe people might be able to write correct!!! Well, that is just my thought...

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I think that there is so much shorthand that people place into what they write, that even this generation has forgotten to even spell the very words! "lol" is so misused, as well as things like "4, lmao, (and what ever else is out there!!)", (show how behind the times i am!!!) If there was not the bulk of the SMS (Short messaging Services) out there, maybe people might be able to write correct!!! Well, that is just my thought...
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is that "write correct" or "write correctly"

"lol is lol", is lol. (LOL!)
To freely use an acronym, a Dutch word and a Welsh word, in an English sentence.
Seriously though: I mind these words in certain situations. If you are chatting with someone over the computer, using IRC or instant messaging or whatever, words like LOL and such can be used. Now and then in a forum post is ok. Using it in spoken language is a definite no! What bothers me a lot more is the more random abbreviations of other words user by everybody all over the place. If it's not worth to spell out, it's quite likely not worth saying in the first place.

Yeah. People nowadays.

lol...............lol

Saaduk said:
lol...............lol
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ya! i see how satisfied you are now!

i guess you had a bad day when made this topic,
LOL

Saaduk said:
i guess you had a bad day when made this topic,
LOL
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exactly!
i was pissed off at one of my friends for excessive lolling.

perfect definition (to me!)
from urbandictionary.com
It's original definition was "Laughing out loud" (also written occasionally as "Lots of Laughs"), used as a brief acronym to denote great amusement in chat conversations.
Now, it is overused to the point where nobody laughs out loud when they say it. In fact, they probably don't even give a **** about what you just wrote. More accurately, the acronym "lol" should be redefined as "Lack of laughter."
Depending on the chatter, its definition may vary. The list of its meanings includes, but is not limited to:
1) "I have nothing worthwhile to contribute to this conversation."
2) "I'm too lazy to read what you just wrote so I'm typing something useless in hopes that you'll think I'm still paying attention."
3) "Your statement lacks even the vaguest trace of humor but I'll pretend I'm amused."
4) "This is a pointless acronym I'm sticking in my sentence just because it's become so engraved into my mind that when chatting, I MUST use the meaningless sentence-filler 'lol.'"
See: lmao, lmfao, rofl, lawl, heh, haha, lolol, and 120 for similarities.
Statement: Sorry if I'm not too cheery, my best friend just died yesterday.
Worthless Reply: lol
Statement: The golden ratio is truely an intersting aspect of not only mathematics, but art as well.
Worthless Reply: lol
Statement: ... And then he says, "Your mom goes to college!"
Worthless Reply: lol
Statement: Hey, are you doing anything tonight? You could come over to my house and play some Unreal Tournie...
Worthless Reply: lol, ok
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ha ha ha ha (thats my version of lol)
great find. thanks buddy
how true!

Well this thread really made me smile, if not lol!!!

hmm... i got nothing against "lol" if it's used in chatrooms (IRC and stuff like that) but i think it really doesn't belong in a Forum... a place where you CAN take your time writing a reply, not unlike in IRC where you have to react instantaneously and are more inclined to just type "lol" than elaborate that you are laughing.
It's equally annoying when i see kids tranferring "lol" from the virtual to real word, using it instead of REALLY laughing... that is were proper usage line of "lol" drops instantly.
Now i've said "kids" use this frequently... having noticed that, i reminded myself that i'm just 26 years old... and yet, i feel like an oldtimer when i hear kids speak these days.

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Lol

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O HAI? Apple sux because it let child porno show in an app D:

Admin edit: image removed as it was deemed inappropriate.
Quote from gizmodo:
Whenever you give users—especially kids—a photo sharing application where they can upload their own photos, you're gonna get some nudity. That's fine, except for the part where I said kids. Now it's bad news for Apple.
We can see how they approved the app, since it's innocent by itself (a photo sharing and uploading app). But when 15 year old girls start uploading topless photos of themselves, like the previously approved and then denied Hottest Girls app, that's when someone needs to take the app off the market.
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thats bad.
But its just a part of larger malaise. We are determined to eradicate it.
mate has got the program on his iPhone, tis a good program, very funny.
he has had it for a week and hasnt been lucky enough to get any 'Adult' pictures yet.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
so.... What a lucky guy!!!!
+ Que PPC said:
so.... What a lucky guy!!!!
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i think uv misunderstood the topic
the application for the iphone has child pornography not monly is this stuff sicks it highly illegal
No I didn't!!!!
hehehehehehe
im confused
this means there is picture of children naked on a n iphone app
how is this lucky?
forget it
Forget it dude! forget it...
remenber one more thing please...
The one who searchs... find.
I know a monster that is on every house of this fu*_*n world called--- Internet--- and something even worst!!!! bad dad's!! unresponsible fathers... thats about we must to be aware... not if we let our divece to our children... cellphones never will be on hands of a child!
See winmo too it has a great app with this enhacement!
We sucks Srs not phone platforms! be smart.
Skyfire great with flash videos! as you can see below... MODS Im going to delete this but i need to hold this till this guys keep it on their minds! Thanks.
Oh BTW censored her face please kraize...
Removed the offensive pics!!!!
Wow... that's just disgusting.
You should delete that picture + Que PPC, it is really gross... (and your "joke" wasn't funny either)
Applications like this need to be monitored, and that girl needs to get legal action. To punish her? No, but to show her parents what she is doing, and maybe get her some help. Girls who that do it have problems with their self-image... it is very sad.
I've seen many stories like this, but when I see people doing stuff like this (especially kids/teens drinking, nude, doing drugs) on the news, I still get this sick feeling in my stomach... these kids need help.
Thats the reason i did it derek!
Cause its not funny to get hiden into an app and a fu*_*d thing like the app is the reason for all!
Do whatever you want dudes if a mod bann me for a few days is alright with me. cause my point is solid...
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So... mikey1022... the first post pic isnt offensive? come on dude even thought... her face is shown!
blaming apple for this is like blaming google for letting me do a search for "nude jailbait" or something else equally silly.
crazy talk said:
blaming apple for this is like blaming google for letting me do a search for "nude jailbait" or something else equally silly.
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Actually. I was just making fun of apple.. I know it's not their fault, but it's their loss either way.
technology comes with its costs. We should ready to pay for all those pleasures.
This is disgusting and degrading! how can you people call this lucky?! Where is your respect and modesty? Adults are the root of this evil, act your age and promote positive attitudes and influences!!! While sure you could say it is the media blah blah blah, but then again who is the media made up of? adults. This is repulsive.
zeezee said:
This is disgusting and degrading! how can you people call this lucky?! Where is your respect and modesty? Adults are the root of this evil, act your age and promote positive attitudes and influences!!! While sure you could say it is the media blah blah blah, but then again who is the media made up of? adults. This is repulsive.
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Two things... first, nobody "forced" her to take the picture. She knew what she was doing. Everyone has their own choices, and they must take responsablity.
And all adults aren't evil... just adults who act like horny teenagers...
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Two things... first, nobody "forced" her to take the picture. She knew what she was doing. Everyone has their own choices, and they must take responsablity.
And all adults aren't evil... just adults who act like horny teenagers...
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i didnt say all where i said they adults were, in general. And maybe if the girl was raised better she would make smarter/better choices? :O
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i didnt say all where i said they adults were, in general. And maybe if the girl was raised better she would make smarter/better choices? :O
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But just how bad your parents are doesn't mean you should, say, go kill someone. I know plenty of people that have had terrible parents/child hoods and have become great people. I think people are just looking for an excuse for their behavior.
no derek i think shes right
if a person is taught proper morals and have a better upbringing then they dont do this
and it falls to the adults everytime
yes she took the picture
but surely here parnts know about what shes up to?
if they dont then they must be neglectful
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But just how bad your parents are doesn't mean you should, say, go kill someone. I know plenty of people that have had terrible parents/child hoods and have become great people. I think people are just looking for an excuse for their behavior.
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Well that just puts us back at the: either learn the easy way or the hard way. And you're saying that parents/upbring plays little role in how people turn out? sure some have ****ty parents but what about other adults? or other friends that have been raised properly in which the troubled child looks to them for guidance and love.

What counts as trolling?

If I were to in insult the HTC HD2 would I be considered trolling?
If I praised it instead, would I be considered trolling to?
If took a dump on the iPhone, would I be a troll?
If I praised the iPhone, would I be a troll?
Well, I think the context certainly helps in determining whether something is trolling, as is the way one says it. If you talk about how great the iPhone is in a respectful manner and in the General Discussion subforum or the Off-Topic subforum, that's not really trolling at all. If you go to the HD2 subforum and make a thread that's about how the iPhone is so much better than Windows Mobile, and how the HD2 sucks so much, there's no doubt about it that you're trolling.
It's the same if you go to an iPhone forum and create threads talking about how the HD2 is so much better than their stupid iPhones. All four situations you listed could be done in a manner that would be considered offensive/trolling, and all four could be done in a respectful manner in the appropriate places and be more or less acceptable for that forum.
I think DaveTheTytNIIGuy pretty much sums it up. The context is all important.
I tend to think of Trolls as folk who are being unnecessarily black and white about something and posting it where common sense would tell you it will stir up animosity rather than measured discussion.
Another mark of Trolls for me is their past posting history. Do they always post controversial, argument-enciting posts, or are they most often calm sensible posters. Just sometimes what can look like a Troll post is actually a bit of a vent by a normally sensible person who for whatever reason has become very frustrated.
A person with only 10 posts all of which stir up controversy is probably a Troll.
A person with a few hundred calm, sensible posts and one that is "having-a-go" at something, is not a Troll and should be read carefully without letting your emotions run high.
JMHO
Mike
IMHO, I would add to that;
excessive use of inappropriate language (cursing/swearing)
gender and ethnic profiling
provoking/inciting comments about a fellow member and/or viewpoint
intentionally fueling an already volatile discussion
Essentially ... a 'NO' answer to this question: "If I respond in this manner, will it contribute to the discussion at hand in a positive fashion?"
As it would happen, we have the perfect example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669335
XDA devs is one of the few forums that doesn't warrant my trolly side.
I see no reason to rile anyone up here, we're all in the same boat and are generally intelligent people who are on a quest for knowledge, holding their devices in high regard!
That said, OP, you sound like a clueless 12-year old spamming newbie! Only an 1337-speaking loser would post an iPhone thread on XDA whining about how Apple is better than HTC, and place it in the wrong forum. LAME. You then continued to bump your thread with a double-posted off-topic "YOU ALL SUCK" message in all caps, uninteresting with a mean tone of voice, with no information that was true.
You must now apologize to everyone in this forum, post something relevent, then give up your AOL internet account. After that, you must bust up your modem then eat it, and go stand in the middle of an intersection. If that doesn't work, then jump into a bathtub holding your monitor.
After posting something relevant, you must never post again (take your crap somewhere else), and go play with your Dress-Up Barbie because your IQ is about 6. Get a life, man! I pity your family! Just please, do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment.
Thank you for your cooperation
denco7 said:
As it would happen, we have the perfect example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669335
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Good 'ol trolling!!! What a joy
The other day I installed that selfaware.cab from here and my HD2 shouted '******!' at someone using an iPhone in the street
Needless to say, the iPhone user went into the fetal position and burst into tears.
SMS92 said:
The other day I installed that selfaware.cab from here and my HD2 shouted '******!' at someone using an iPhone in the street
Needless to say, the iPhone user went into the fetal position and burst into tears.
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hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!! that made my monday!!
This thread is fake and gay.
That's some classic trolling.
I have an HD2, my boyfriend has an iPhone.. things are complicated..
Seriously though, if anyone actually tries to claim that the iPhone is "better" than the HD2, they are either:
- An apple fanboy
- Ignorant
- A troll
- An engineer (i.e someone who gets off on the iPhone's build and design quality and completely ignores its total lack of functionality.)
My boyfriend falls into the 1st and 4th category. He tells me about the iPhone's beautifully machined buttons, how they cost $1 per button as opposed to the $0.02 that other phone companies spend. But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
RickAstley said:
I have an HD2, my boyfriend has an iPhone.. things are complicated..
Seriously though, if anyone actually tries to claim that the iPhone is "better" than the HD2, they are either:
- An apple fanboy
- Ignorant
- A troll
- An engineer (i.e someone who gets off on the iPhone's build and design quality and completely ignores its total lack of functionality.)
My boyfriend falls into the 1st and 4th category. He tells me about the iPhone's beautifully machined buttons, how they cost $1 per button as opposed to the $0.02 that other phone companies spend. But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
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Rick Astley has a "boyfriend" that like Iphones!!!
That explains a lot of the 80's behavior
RickAstley said:
But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
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Keep an eye on him my friend -- just the other day I had some random sonofabitch message me on Skype with "r u in2 ifonez? u gt cam?" -- before I could even respond with a mandatory pwning he had signed off, most likely to check train times.
You may have stated various times over the years that he was a guy who didn't warrant any 'giving up' on, but that was before the iPhone was invented and he got hold of one.
Gotta make you understand, Mr. Astley, the iPhone SUCKS.
SMS92 said:
Keep an eye on him my friend -- just the other day I had some random sonofabitch message me on Skype with "r u in2 ifonez? u gt cam?" -- before I could even respond with a mandatory pwning he had signed off, most likely to check train times.
You may have stated various times over the years that he was a guy who didn't warrant any 'giving up' on, but that was before the iPhone was invented and he got hold of one.
Gotta make you understand, Mr. Astley, the iPhone SUCKS.
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+1
Second that!!
This is how my cry sounded when I was offered an Iphone insted os a WinMO phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSI0YjPFPoo&feature=related
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This thread is fake and gay..
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We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
mikechannon said:
We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
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ouch!
mikechannon said:
We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
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It's the thought that counts Even if the thought was stupid.
Trolling is too much fun sometimes.
JAguirre1231 said:
It's the thought that counts Even if the thought was stupid.
Trolling is too much fun sometimes.
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But stupid thoughts are the best, putting them into practice is even better
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But stupid thoughts are the best, putting them into practice is even better
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Only on video, which leads into the next common trolling phrase:
Pics or gtfo.
I do have difficulty sometimes with this topic. I oftentimes just post my true opinions and people have called it trolling. I sometimes can filter but sometimes I'm just putting in my two sense. I saw the thread on Iceland photos and wanted to post my thoughts on Iceland that I don't really care if that country sank and was completely eliminated, but I stopped myself, thinking that it would be misinterpreted as trolling.

It's not wala - it's voila!

Not posted off topic for a while, so thought it was about time I did
Just a quick lesson that may stop an embarrassing faux pas from appearing as much as it does.
You don't do something and then go "Wala"!!! That's daft. Stop it.
It's a french word, and it's voila, meaning "there you go", "job done" (or words to that effect). I don't think there is a literal translation, so it's more of a concept. Either way, IT'S NOT WALA!!!
So hopefully some of you learnt something new today. Wala.
'En route' is not 'On route'. If you must use the English translation it would be 'In route'.
johncmolyneux said:
Not posted off topic for a while, so thought it was about time I did
Just a quick lesson that may stop an embarrassing faux pas from appearing as much as it does.
You don't do something and then go "Wala"!!! That's daft. Stop it.
It's a french word, and it's voila, meaning "there you go", "job done" (or words to that effect). I don't think there is a literal translation, so it's more of a concept. Either way, IT'S NOT WALA!!!
So hopefully some of you learnt something new today. Wala.
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This makes me wish the XDA app let you press the thanks button.
Sent from my fingers to your face...
People actually say WALA? I always knew it's voila. lol
jaszek said:
People actually say WALA? I always knew it's voila. lol
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http://www.google.com/cse?q=wala&sa=Search&cx=partner-pub-2900107662879704:fs7umqefhnf&ie=ISO-8859-1
Just lost some more hope for humanity.
johncmolyneux said:
Not posted off topic for a while, so thought it was about time I did
Just a quick lesson that may stop an embarrassing faux pas from appearing as much as it does.
You don't do something and then go "Wala"!!! That's daft. Stop it.
It's a french word, and it's voila, meaning "there you go", "job done" (or words to that effect). I don't think there is a literal translation, so it's more of a concept. Either way, IT'S NOT WALA!!!
So hopefully some of you learnt something new today. Wala.
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LMAO !!!!! This is one of my BIGGEST pet peeves with English speaking people Especially Americans (which I am one)
You think this is funny just remember when President Bush referred to the Japanese as the Japanians (Asians from Albania I guess ) ... An American New reporter once coined the term "Americans will be the Death of English"
Here in California it is even worse Even the Hispanics have taken up the cause of converting wrong English into Wrong Spanish........ quite surreal. So, if you learn Spanish here, it is only good here
OR, to quote the Former President Bush again, "did you know that the French do not have a word for Entrepreneur"
Thanks, for the post !
People say wala? The gene pool really could do with a little chlorine.
I speak French, so I'll not make this mistake in a hurry.
johncmolyneux said:
Not posted off topic for a while, so thought it was about time I did
Just a quick lesson that may stop an embarrassing faux pas from appearing as much as it does.
You don't do something and then go "Wala"!!! That's daft. Stop it.
It's a french word, and it's voila, meaning "there you go", "job done" (or words to that effect). I don't think there is a literal translation, so it's more of a concept. Either way, IT'S NOT WALA!!!
So hopefully some of you learnt something new today. Wala.
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^^One of the things I learned in my French classes in grammar school.
oka1 said:
OR, to quote the Former President Bush again, "did you know that the French do not have a word for Entrepreneur"
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Rofl !!!
It's "for all intents and purposes". Not "for all intensive purposes".
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It's "for all intents and purposes". Not "for all intensive purposes".
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Did you want to "pacifically" point that out?
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Did you want to "pacifically" point that out?
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LOL !!
Did you know my English teacher told me a double negative makes a positive. But there are no examples of a double positive making a negative.......
To which I replied "yeah, right"
In my work I see
Dun or dune = Done
There as in "it is theres" instead theirs
Or you could lead if you got the lead out of your pace........... i culd go on but I betzh stop der, ya know wha I mean........... mistah green jeans ?
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Did you want to "pacifically" point that out?
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I could care less.
(see what I did, there?)
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I could care less.
(see what I did, there?)
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I can't stand this one.
English is not my first language but the way people mangle the language so pi55es me off! Mind you, I will never be perfect at it but I do make an effort! But somethings make me laugh!
"Don't let your worries kill you, let the church help." --Yea!
"Dog for sale: eats anything and is fond of children." --Yummy!
"No children aloud." --shush!
"Thanks before...."
While reading your threads I've found this one, and just FYI, in french it's not voila it's voilà
oka1 said:
OR, to quote the Former President Bush again, "did you know that the French do not have a word for Entrepreneur"
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LOL too!
@OP: No, it's spelled "voilà". If you're going to bother to have a thread *****ing about how the word is pronounced, how about you at least spell it correctly?
Actually, I've always thought the word was pronounced "Raymond Luxury Yat-cht" but then again, that's just me. What would I know?
However, simply writing "It's pronounced 'voilà'" isn't very useful itself, since how does one *actually* pronounce voilà?
It's actually pronounced something along the lines of vwah - lah. Simply writing "voilà" would send the message to unsuspecting, non-French-speaking folk, that the word is pronounced more like how it is spelled, as in voy - lah which is as bad as "wala" and equally as far away from the correct pronunciation.
So there!
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I could care less / I couldn't care less -- definitely these two phrases logically mean two different things.
Double negatives -- Once upon a time, English made use of double and triple negatives. They were intended to emphasize the negation, much like how profanity is used to emphasize something.
The rest of you folks are correct: the sheer level of belligerent ignorance out there is appalling.
Pronunciation is the next level... PACIFICALLY French. Alt codes for accents...too much to ask.
If we stick to the simple ones(they're,there,their,you're your) there is a chance....
I think the French word for entrepreneur is BADABING........
Then ask a native Spanish-speaking person how they feel if you just typed "anos" for year because you were too lazy to type "años". Go on, ask 'em, and see what they say. It's just an "n" after all, right?
We English-speaking folk have no idea how easy we have it in terms of writing and spelling. We do not have genderfied nouns, verbs, or anything of the sort; we have no accents over (or under) any of our letters, and especially here in North America we often have more streamlined spellings of words than the U.K. does.
With ease often comes laziness, I'm sad to say.
BTW... Anyone here ever been to Voilà Voilà, Washington?

PLEASE stop using the the word “retard” in your posts.

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In 2011, why do people use the word “retard” to describe to describe stupidity? It is very offensive to people that have children with special needs. I have seen it more times in the Nook forum then all of the other areas on XDA. Try to remember that many people have loved ones with mental disabilities and it is very insulting to see the insensitive use of the slang term retard or retarded.
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painter_ said:
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In 2011, why do people use the word “retard” to describe to describe stupidity? It is very offensive to people that have children with special needs. I have seen it more times in the Nook forum then all of the other areas on XDA. Try to remember that many people have loved ones with mental disabilities and it is very insulting to see the insensitive use of the slang term retard or retarded.
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Retard
From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/retard
See 4 b. for the context used.
–verb (used with object)
1.
to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
–verb (used without object)
2.
to be delayed.
–noun
3.
a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.
4.
Slang: Disparaging .
a.
a mentally retarded person.
b.
a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.
5.
Automotive, Machinery . an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.
I understand that you may feel like you need to defend the rights of restards, but in my estimation, it isn't really necessary and you are just muddying the waters. People with mental handicaps don't own the word, and in fact from my perspective it seem that saying it can only be used as such is erroneous in the extreme. Political correctness is self-defeating and should be avoided. I personally hate it.
Be free or don't, political correctness is just a way of enslaving our speech and thought processes.
migrax
Our world is already WAY too PC, i don't need people telling me what to do on the internet. PC needs to die in a fire...
It's only a figure of speech. Lots of things are offensive but you can't rid them all.
Don't worry, I haven't used it and never will use it in an offensive way
Divine_Madcat said:
Our world is already WAY too PC, i don't need people telling me what to do on the internet. PC needs to die in a fire...
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It's not PC. It's simple human decency, which is too conspicuously absent on the internet. I'm surprised that this is too much to ask of anyone.
I'm with painter on this one.
I don't see the point. I have never and will never call a person with special needs a retard. Therefore, calling stupid people retard is not the same. In my head, when I use the word retard, I don't picture a mentally challenged person...I picture some dumbass who just tried to jump a bike onto a apartment building roof or tried to light his farts on fire but instead lit up their pants.
This just is a simple request because to some with children with special needs, this term is derogatory and hurtful. While this could be labeled PC or a defintion can be used to prove its proper use, using this as a derogatory term to define one's ignorance or stupidity, easily offends people with special needs children and many whom have worked with children with special needs, and that's a fact.
The very definition of using an identifying term negatively to generalize a specific group is stereotypical bigotry.
A person can choose to be insensitive by using this term or decide not to and that's fine. But many of us choose to be more sensitive to a very difficult and and challenging life situation, that often involves children, by not using the term and risk adding more harm or offending others. Especially when it involves children born with birth defects.
The op made a simple and kind request, you guys decide what to do.
The word has more than one meaning and is common. My advice, grow thicker skin. People with special needs kids have a lot more to worry about than a freaking word. If you let a simple word get under your skin and offend you then you have issues you need to deal with yourself.
I dont use it because people that do have always sounded really stupid to me. Just like stupid people that say "thats gay" all the damn time and overuse the word fag.
How does rere sound then?
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Im kind of border line on this one. I understand how people with disability children or loved ones could interpret this as a direct offense, but at the same time, it is essential to understand and realize that words like "retard" and "gay" have been adapted by societal culture to take on a completely different meaning then originally intended. I'm willing to put money on the estimation that 99.5% percent of the individuals who have/do use the word mean no disrespect to individuals with disabilities. To be completely honest, I've used the word in every day speech or online posts, am I proud that I support a word that is derived from mentally handicapped people? No. Have I ever once used it to purposely offend a disabled person any way shape or form or commented demeaningly on a mentally handicapped person? Absolutely not. My mother worked with mentally disabled children for many years and I know first hand that many of them are possibly the nicest people to ever live. Take it for what you will.
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Im kind of border line on this one. I understand how people with disability children or loved ones could interpret this as a direct offense, but at the same time, it is essential to understand and realize that words like "retard" and "gay" have been adapted by societal culture to take on a completely different meaning then originally intended. I'm willing to put money on the estimation that 99.5% percent of the individuals who have/do use the word mean no disrespect to individuals with disabilities. To be completely honest, I've used the word in every day speech or online posts, am I proud that I support a word that is derived from mentally handicapped people? No. Have I ever once used it to purposely offend a disabled person any way shape or form or commented demeaningly on a mentally handicapped person? Absolutely not. My mother worked with mentally disabled children for many years and I know first hand that many of them are possibly the nicest people to ever live. Take it for what you will.
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Nor have I even used the term to refer to a person that is anything other than a dumbass, come to think of it, I rarely use the word at all. But I stand on the principle that I can police myself without anyone telling me I have to conform to their ideas of stereotypes, I simply resist that with great resolve.
I agree that some take offense at the word, and I also would suppose that it is their problem, and they can simply not read if they are offended.
That I care to contribute should be taken with the appreciation that I know how to be diplomatic, but I don't like people that tell me that I have to worry about offending someone who doesn't even read these forums. It is an empty argument and serves only to stifle the free exchange of ideas.
I register my approval by participating in the conversation, I register my disapproval by not participating. It really is that simple.
migrax
I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE FINALLY PUT UP A THREAD ABOUT THIS. I'VE BEEN WANTING TO GET A SIMILAR CONCERN OFF MY CHEST FOR A LONG WHILE... COULD WE ALL STOP USING THE WORD NOOB? I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE JUST TOSS IT AROUND LIKE IT'S NOTHING WHEN IN FACT, BASED ON A THROUGH READING OF SEVERAL WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES, IT TURNS OUT ITS SOME SORT OF DEROGATORY SLANG USED TO DESCRIBE A PERSON OF LIMITED COMPUTING SKILLS. SURE, I MIGHT NOT BE A COMputer genius, but i am far from a noob. i've helped people with all sorts of computer problems, even stuff that geek squad couldn't fix (turns out it wasn't a wireless mouse until after the cat got to it). so yeAH IF WE COULD JUST PUT AN END TO ALL OF THAT NAME CA LLING THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I'M GOING TO GET BACK TO IMPORTANT STUFF AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHY MY NOOK WONT TURN ON AFTER A CLEAN FORMAT OF THE BOOT PARTITION.
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I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE FINALLY PUT UP A THREAD ABOUT THIS. I'VE BEEN WANTING TO GET A SIMILAR CONCERN OFF MY CHEST FOR A LONG WHILE... COULD WE ALL STOP USING THE WORD NOOB? I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE JUST TOSS IT AROUND LIKE IT'S NOTHING WHEN IN FACT, BASED ON A THROUGH READING OF SEVERAL WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES, IT TURNS OUT ITS SOME SORT OF DEROGATORY SLANG USED TO DESCRIBE A PERSON OF LIMITED COMPUTING SKILLS. SURE, I MIGHT NOT BE A COMputer genius, but i am far from a noob. i've helped people with all sorts of computer problems, even stuff that geek squad couldn't fix (turns out it wasn't a wireless mouse until after the cat got to it). so yeAH IF WE COULD JUST PUT AN END TO ALL OF THAT NAME CA LLING THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I'M GOING TO GET BACK TO IMPORTANT STUFF AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHY MY NOOK WONT TURN ON AFTER A CLEAN FORMAT OF THE BOOT PARTITION.
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As if to emphasize.
migrax
findmike said:
I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE FINALLY PUT UP A THREAD ABOUT THIS. I'VE BEEN WANTING TO GET A SIMILAR CONCERN OFF MY CHEST FOR A LONG WHILE... COULD WE ALL STOP USING THE WORD NOOB? I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE JUST TOSS IT AROUND LIKE IT'S NOTHING WHEN IN FACT, BASED ON A THROUGH READING OF SEVERAL WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES, IT TURNS OUT ITS SOME SORT OF DEROGATORY SLANG USED TO DESCRIBE A PERSON OF LIMITED COMPUTING SKILLS. SURE, I MIGHT NOT BE A COMputer genius, but i am far from a noob. i've helped people with all sorts of computer problems, even stuff that geek squad couldn't fix (turns out it wasn't a wireless mouse until after the cat got to it). so yeAH IF WE COULD JUST PUT AN END TO ALL OF THAT NAME CA LLING THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I'M GOING TO GET BACK TO IMPORTANT STUFF AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHY MY NOOK WONT TURN ON AFTER A CLEAN FORMAT OF THE BOOT PARTITION.
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Dear findmike,
If you locate the caps lock key on your keyboard, and disengage it, people might be less inclined to say things like that.
And yes, it is a shortened term for "newbie" to refer to someone new to something. If you are a newb, it means you are new and learning. It's not a derogatory term. If you are a n00b or noob, it means you don't pay attention to existing information given, and ask questions in a demanding manner.
So to summarise no-one means any disrespect to mentally handicapped individuals, most of us can understand and respect the sentiment presented in the OP, and tbh it's not even one of the more useful or important words in our vocabularies. It can stop right there. There's no need to insist on other people growing thicker skins or to ask them to not complain. That's how antisocial people maintain their power, by bullying others into conforming to their wishes and preferences eg. by portraying other positions as being unmanly, cowardly, over-sensitive; by casting other's feelings as being illegitimate; by treating other's wishes as being terrible and unreasonable impositions; etc. No-one here is truly antisocial. Everyone here should be able to appreciate the value of us being able to speak out about things that bother us without fearing summary dismissal or or outright disrespect. It's crucial to a healthy and working group environment.
peace
Now HERE is something disrespectful
comedy gold though.
also see here
rckymtnrfc said:
I don't see the point. I have never and will never call a person with special needs a retard. Therefore, calling stupid people retard is not the same. In my head, when I use the word retard, I don't picture a mentally challenged person...I picture some dumbass who just tried to jump a bike onto a apartment building roof or tried to light his farts on fire but instead lit up their pants.
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Example:
Sarah Palin is a retard.
Trig is a beautiful child of God with special needs.
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Example:
Sarah Palin is a retard.
Trig is a beautiful child of God with special needs.
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I happen to like Sarah Palin for the most part. But this really made me lol.
The PC thing is causing a nation of wimps. My sister in-law is a 34yr old special needs woman. This does not keep my wife and I from calling each other retards as a term of endearment. We also call each other and the kids dufusses. So maybe when you are called a retard, they are really saying they love you.
painter_ said:
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In 2011, why do people use the word “retard” to describe to describe stupidity? It is very offensive to people that have children with special needs. I have seen it more times in the Nook forum then all of the other areas on XDA. Try to remember that many people have loved ones with mental disabilities and it is very insulting to see the insensitive use of the slang term retard or retarded.
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Oh god, we all have to go to sensitivity classes now. This is nonsense.

Bringing out the worst in me...

Alrighty then, what brings out the worst in oneself?
For me, it is boredom. When I'm bored, I transform into a malevolent being capable of endless joy and humour.
At others' expense.
People asking ridiculous questions on this forum really grinds my gears.
Lane discipline on islands, bad drivers in general.
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mercianary said:
Lane discipline on islands, bad drivers in general.
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+over 9000
I HATE middle-lane drivers and people cutting across roundabout lanes when I'm trying to turn right.
People, in general.
Not the like-minded ones who gravitate to the same hang-out spots that i do, just the 99.9% general public/hoi-poloi/great unwashed masses, who share nothing except their inability to raise their average IQ's above that of a Tapeworm.
DirkGently1 said:
People, in general.
Not the like-minded ones who gravitate to the same hang-out spots that i do, just the 99.9% general public/hoi-poloi/great unwashed masses, who share nothing except their inability to raise their average IQ's above that of a Tampon.
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I corrected that for you
johncmolyneux said:
+over 9000
I HATE middle-aged drivers and people cutting across lanes when I'm trying to turn.
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FTFM. Now that you know how I drive...
Spam from the dead!
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Holy Necro-Thread Batman!
I was about to post that it was a good idea for a thread..
..and then realised it was. 3 months ago!
I don't even remember posting in it before. Second bite at the apple... i would still say that people being dumb grinds my gears. It's got nothing to do with education. You can teach a monkey to solve puzzles. I'm not impressed by qualifications. Any idiot can memorise a bunch of stuff, regurgitate it in an exam and get 'qualified'.
I respect people for having original thoughts of their own. For being creative. Isaac Newton realised that contemporary Math wasn't cutting it.. so he invented Trigonometry. INVENTED it. I can barely spell it! Of course, while he was mostly focused on turning Lead into Gold, he somehow found the time to discover Gravity and come up with the Laws of Motion.
The highly qualified people is see at work every day are chemical Engineers and even Doctors. I sometimes wonder how some of them even manage to tie their own shoe-lace some days. Most of them are as clever as a block of cheese.
There's no excuse for being dumb. If you feel that perhaps you are dumb? Pick up some books! You've got one lifetime to find out as much as you can about the universe. Don't you feel the clock ticking...?
I can read minds, doesn't that make sense?
It's uncanny how you can sum up my frustrations into one rant. And somehow you managed to remove the swearing I would have incorporated into it as well!
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I can read minds, doesn't that make sense?
It's uncanny how you can sum up my frustrations into one rant. And somehow you managed to remove the swearing I would have incorporated into it as well!
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It took an extra five minutes to edit out the swearies..!
Seriously though, i've been around people of all walks of life. There are two individuals that spring to mind. One was a Tree Surgeon, (arborist), and the other was a common labourer...same as i was. The former was my age, my level of 'education', and even in my line of work.. but man did he make me think. He questioned everything, (same as i did), but the conversations we had would go on forever. "If i kicked out the door-stop...", one conversation went.. "where does the energy go when the door slams shut?", he asked. That one went on for hours!
Bearing in mind that this this was a fit, popular guy with a stunning girlfriend and a career in manual labour. He was a wealth of knowledge about Cetaceans, and most anything about the animal kingdom. He taught me that i still had a lot to learn myself! It wasn't the fact that this stuff even crossed his mind that surprised me.. it was that he questioned everything. It was that curiosity that made him awesome. You could see that behind his eyes were cogs that were always turning. Someone else with a thirst for knowledge!
The other example was a kid i knew who was trying to earn a bit of cash-in-hand, doing the hard labour on a day-rate. We'd chat while we worked and we'd get into the deeper discussions of Evolutionary Psychology, for example. Told well, maybe some students will listen... of those, some might even understand the subject matter. Of those who understand, you might find a few who could go one step further and add something novel to the conversation.. come up with an original suggestion or two of their own. So here's a 17 year old kid who having never even thought about it before is suddenly discussing the subject with me like a pro! Not only discussing it, but taking it places even i hadn't thought of. He's making me re-think my own beliefs!
That is insight! That is the same flexibility of mind that led the great thinkers of our time to advance science, not only in small steps, but in giant leaps! Few have that ability..and when it comes, it's often from the most unexpected places! Einstein was a Patent Clerk, for instance. Ok, he was a Math prodigy too, but i bet he didn't waste his free time watching reality TV shows!
If only a fraction of the people in the world were allowed to reach their potential, we'd be in the midst of a second Renaissance right now. Instead, we're held back as a race by short-sightedness, inertia, dogma..and an unforgivable amount of ignorance!
*And that, Ladies and germs, will have to be my rant for the night! I'm sure it could have been a better read, but i'm not one of those who will advance human knowledge in any significant way. One of you you could be though...if you could just get off of your fat, lazy arses first!
DirkGently said:
Holy Necro-Thread Batman!
I was about to post that it was a good idea for a thread..
..and then realised it was. 3 months ago!
I don't even remember posting in it before. Second bite at the apple... i would still say that people being dumb grinds my gears. It's got nothing to do with education. You can teach a monkey to solve puzzles. I'm not impressed by qualifications. Any idiot can memorise a bunch of stuff, regurgitate it in an exam and get 'qualified'.
I respect people for having original thoughts of their own. For being creative. Isaac Newton realised that contemporary Math wasn't cutting it.. so he invented Trigonometry. INVENTED it. I can barely spell it! Of course, while he was mostly focused on turning Lead into Gold, he somehow found the time to discover Gravity and come up with the Laws of Motion.
The highly qualified people is see at work every day are chemical Engineers and even Doctors. I sometimes wonder how some of them even manage to tie their own shoe-lace some days. Most of them are as clever as a block of cheese.
There's no excuse for being dumb. If you feel that perhaps you are dumb? Pick up some books! You've got one lifetime to find out as much as you can about the universe. Don't you feel the clock ticking...?
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Man, thats's all WAAAAAY to serious for the OT forum
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Man, thats's all WAAAAAY to serious for the OT forum
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What blasphemy is this? Most people in ot that I converse with tend to be far more serious than most people out of OT OT iz sruz bidness. Don't belittle us lol jk
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Lulz, how did my drunken rambles end up in here
Anyway, that's a few million more of my own brain cells successfully killed off. Or at least that's how it feels this morning!

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