If I were to in insult the HTC HD2 would I be considered trolling?
If I praised it instead, would I be considered trolling to?
If took a dump on the iPhone, would I be a troll?
If I praised the iPhone, would I be a troll?
Well, I think the context certainly helps in determining whether something is trolling, as is the way one says it. If you talk about how great the iPhone is in a respectful manner and in the General Discussion subforum or the Off-Topic subforum, that's not really trolling at all. If you go to the HD2 subforum and make a thread that's about how the iPhone is so much better than Windows Mobile, and how the HD2 sucks so much, there's no doubt about it that you're trolling.
It's the same if you go to an iPhone forum and create threads talking about how the HD2 is so much better than their stupid iPhones. All four situations you listed could be done in a manner that would be considered offensive/trolling, and all four could be done in a respectful manner in the appropriate places and be more or less acceptable for that forum.
I think DaveTheTytNIIGuy pretty much sums it up. The context is all important.
I tend to think of Trolls as folk who are being unnecessarily black and white about something and posting it where common sense would tell you it will stir up animosity rather than measured discussion.
Another mark of Trolls for me is their past posting history. Do they always post controversial, argument-enciting posts, or are they most often calm sensible posters. Just sometimes what can look like a Troll post is actually a bit of a vent by a normally sensible person who for whatever reason has become very frustrated.
A person with only 10 posts all of which stir up controversy is probably a Troll.
A person with a few hundred calm, sensible posts and one that is "having-a-go" at something, is not a Troll and should be read carefully without letting your emotions run high.
JMHO
Mike
IMHO, I would add to that;
excessive use of inappropriate language (cursing/swearing)
gender and ethnic profiling
provoking/inciting comments about a fellow member and/or viewpoint
intentionally fueling an already volatile discussion
Essentially ... a 'NO' answer to this question: "If I respond in this manner, will it contribute to the discussion at hand in a positive fashion?"
As it would happen, we have the perfect example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669335
XDA devs is one of the few forums that doesn't warrant my trolly side.
I see no reason to rile anyone up here, we're all in the same boat and are generally intelligent people who are on a quest for knowledge, holding their devices in high regard!
That said, OP, you sound like a clueless 12-year old spamming newbie! Only an 1337-speaking loser would post an iPhone thread on XDA whining about how Apple is better than HTC, and place it in the wrong forum. LAME. You then continued to bump your thread with a double-posted off-topic "YOU ALL SUCK" message in all caps, uninteresting with a mean tone of voice, with no information that was true.
You must now apologize to everyone in this forum, post something relevent, then give up your AOL internet account. After that, you must bust up your modem then eat it, and go stand in the middle of an intersection. If that doesn't work, then jump into a bathtub holding your monitor.
After posting something relevant, you must never post again (take your crap somewhere else), and go play with your Dress-Up Barbie because your IQ is about 6. Get a life, man! I pity your family! Just please, do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment.
Thank you for your cooperation
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As it would happen, we have the perfect example
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669335
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Good 'ol trolling!!! What a joy
The other day I installed that selfaware.cab from here and my HD2 shouted '******!' at someone using an iPhone in the street
Needless to say, the iPhone user went into the fetal position and burst into tears.
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The other day I installed that selfaware.cab from here and my HD2 shouted '******!' at someone using an iPhone in the street
Needless to say, the iPhone user went into the fetal position and burst into tears.
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hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!! that made my monday!!
This thread is fake and gay.
That's some classic trolling.
I have an HD2, my boyfriend has an iPhone.. things are complicated..
Seriously though, if anyone actually tries to claim that the iPhone is "better" than the HD2, they are either:
- An apple fanboy
- Ignorant
- A troll
- An engineer (i.e someone who gets off on the iPhone's build and design quality and completely ignores its total lack of functionality.)
My boyfriend falls into the 1st and 4th category. He tells me about the iPhone's beautifully machined buttons, how they cost $1 per button as opposed to the $0.02 that other phone companies spend. But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
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I have an HD2, my boyfriend has an iPhone.. things are complicated..
Seriously though, if anyone actually tries to claim that the iPhone is "better" than the HD2, they are either:
- An apple fanboy
- Ignorant
- A troll
- An engineer (i.e someone who gets off on the iPhone's build and design quality and completely ignores its total lack of functionality.)
My boyfriend falls into the 1st and 4th category. He tells me about the iPhone's beautifully machined buttons, how they cost $1 per button as opposed to the $0.02 that other phone companies spend. But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
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Rick Astley has a "boyfriend" that like Iphones!!!
That explains a lot of the 80's behavior
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But then he has to sign off skype whenever he wants to check his train times, and then he cries.
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Keep an eye on him my friend -- just the other day I had some random sonofabitch message me on Skype with "r u in2 ifonez? u gt cam?" -- before I could even respond with a mandatory pwning he had signed off, most likely to check train times.
You may have stated various times over the years that he was a guy who didn't warrant any 'giving up' on, but that was before the iPhone was invented and he got hold of one.
Gotta make you understand, Mr. Astley, the iPhone SUCKS.
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Keep an eye on him my friend -- just the other day I had some random sonofabitch message me on Skype with "r u in2 ifonez? u gt cam?" -- before I could even respond with a mandatory pwning he had signed off, most likely to check train times.
You may have stated various times over the years that he was a guy who didn't warrant any 'giving up' on, but that was before the iPhone was invented and he got hold of one.
Gotta make you understand, Mr. Astley, the iPhone SUCKS.
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Second that!!
This is how my cry sounded when I was offered an Iphone insted os a WinMO phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSI0YjPFPoo&feature=related
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We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
mikechannon said:
We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
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ouch!
mikechannon said:
We created it to keep you happy and make you feel at home!
Have some nice Trolling back!
Mike
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It's the thought that counts Even if the thought was stupid.
Trolling is too much fun sometimes.
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It's the thought that counts Even if the thought was stupid.
Trolling is too much fun sometimes.
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But stupid thoughts are the best, putting them into practice is even better
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But stupid thoughts are the best, putting them into practice is even better
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Only on video, which leads into the next common trolling phrase:
Pics or gtfo.
I do have difficulty sometimes with this topic. I oftentimes just post my true opinions and people have called it trolling. I sometimes can filter but sometimes I'm just putting in my two sense. I saw the thread on Iceland photos and wanted to post my thoughts on Iceland that I don't really care if that country sank and was completely eliminated, but I stopped myself, thinking that it would be misinterpreted as trolling.
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i don't know why i have spurts of funny hatred when i see a use of the word 'lol'.
i am still comfortable with LMAO, OMG, WTF but its the 'lol' people use when it is least expected......rather it least fits.
LOL as i know is abbreviation of
"laugh out loud" (most common)
"lots of luck" or "lots of love" (less common--infact non-existant)
Now, if somebody cracks an awesome joke...and people use this word to express their hearty laugh,its still ok.
But these days its being plain overdone, i'll give you some good examples;
it was my first rollercoaster ride, it was awesome lol..
lol..my cousin kicked the sh*t outta me
it was my uncle's funeral ..lol..
eeew .. i forgot...its your birthday lol
SORRY..LOL!!
lol..you are funny!
omg , i gtg srry....catch'ya later lol..
if somebody is so amused by such crap that he/she feels like laughing so bad...i feel that person's got to be the biggest loser around.
and if 'lol' in itself was not enough for some people they invented similar words - 'lolz' or lolzz or lolzzz (add more z's to make it stronger)
wtf is lolzzzzz? -'lots of laughs and then suddenly dozing off?" Thank heavens keyboards don't have feelings!
just wanted to share this thing with you guys. how do you all feel?
sorry if i offended some 'lollers'!
PEACE
yeah the
"lol it's jesus"
jokes really show how language can be turned into the enemy of all living things
but then guess older people have always felt that the younger crowd abuses the language
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and lastly i am sharing my views and i seriously don't mean to offend 'lollers'!
all views are welcome. correct me if i am wrong somewhere!
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LOL!
Coming to the point, yeah, its annoying these days. People use the word 'LOL' just for no reason. I cannot figure out, if it makes them feel that they're cool.
Also, people also seem to use 'LMAO' for no reason! Do they really 'laugh their ass off'? *no*
and i am so proud that i've never used this damn word in my general english except for when i talk about it being a symbol of "wannabes"
and i won't use it until somebody points a gun at my head and tells me to type 'lol'
.......and i'll feel like such a loser afterwards!
and yes- i am don't contribute to younger crowd spoiling the language as i am myself 20 years of age!
lol to me has always meant and always will mean "lots of love."
so when i see it all over the place, i just think "what a lovely world it is that we live in, all this love around in the air"
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lol to me has always meant and always will mean "lots of love."
so when i see it all over the place, i just think "what a lovely world it is that we live in, all this love around in the air"
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Aye, I thought the same and thus used it at the end of some SMSs, etc. when it simply wasn't appropriate according to what the recipient understood it to mean.
A lass I was very much into some years back thought I was slightly making fun of her as I ended most of my SMS with lol and she eventually asked why I always thought that fairly innoccuous remarks warranted laughing out loud at the end.
Naturally, I felt a right Herbert. Since then I've only used it in the way everyone else does. Not that I use a lot of abbeviations anyway: I tend to punctuaute SMSs or any other messages in the normal way, not least because I used to be a grammar teacher.
wikipedia gives the bast answer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lol
Penny for your thoughts
I think that there is so much shorthand that people place into what they write, that even this generation has forgotten to even spell the very words! "lol" is so misused, as well as things like "4, lmao, (and what ever else is out there!!)", (show how behind the times i am!!!) If there was not the bulk of the SMS (Short messaging Services) out there, maybe people might be able to write correct!!! Well, that is just my thought...
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I think that there is so much shorthand that people place into what they write, that even this generation has forgotten to even spell the very words! "lol" is so misused, as well as things like "4, lmao, (and what ever else is out there!!)", (show how behind the times i am!!!) If there was not the bulk of the SMS (Short messaging Services) out there, maybe people might be able to write correct!!! Well, that is just my thought...
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is that "write correct" or "write correctly"
"lol is lol", is lol. (LOL!)
To freely use an acronym, a Dutch word and a Welsh word, in an English sentence.
Seriously though: I mind these words in certain situations. If you are chatting with someone over the computer, using IRC or instant messaging or whatever, words like LOL and such can be used. Now and then in a forum post is ok. Using it in spoken language is a definite no! What bothers me a lot more is the more random abbreviations of other words user by everybody all over the place. If it's not worth to spell out, it's quite likely not worth saying in the first place.
Yeah. People nowadays.
lol...............lol
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lol...............lol
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ya! i see how satisfied you are now!
i guess you had a bad day when made this topic,
LOL
Saaduk said:
i guess you had a bad day when made this topic,
LOL
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exactly!
i was pissed off at one of my friends for excessive lolling.
perfect definition (to me!)
from urbandictionary.com
It's original definition was "Laughing out loud" (also written occasionally as "Lots of Laughs"), used as a brief acronym to denote great amusement in chat conversations.
Now, it is overused to the point where nobody laughs out loud when they say it. In fact, they probably don't even give a **** about what you just wrote. More accurately, the acronym "lol" should be redefined as "Lack of laughter."
Depending on the chatter, its definition may vary. The list of its meanings includes, but is not limited to:
1) "I have nothing worthwhile to contribute to this conversation."
2) "I'm too lazy to read what you just wrote so I'm typing something useless in hopes that you'll think I'm still paying attention."
3) "Your statement lacks even the vaguest trace of humor but I'll pretend I'm amused."
4) "This is a pointless acronym I'm sticking in my sentence just because it's become so engraved into my mind that when chatting, I MUST use the meaningless sentence-filler 'lol.'"
See: lmao, lmfao, rofl, lawl, heh, haha, lolol, and 120 for similarities.
Statement: Sorry if I'm not too cheery, my best friend just died yesterday.
Worthless Reply: lol
Statement: The golden ratio is truely an intersting aspect of not only mathematics, but art as well.
Worthless Reply: lol
Statement: ... And then he says, "Your mom goes to college!"
Worthless Reply: lol
Statement: Hey, are you doing anything tonight? You could come over to my house and play some Unreal Tournie...
Worthless Reply: lol, ok
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ha ha ha ha (thats my version of lol)
great find. thanks buddy
how true!
Well this thread really made me smile, if not lol!!!
hmm... i got nothing against "lol" if it's used in chatrooms (IRC and stuff like that) but i think it really doesn't belong in a Forum... a place where you CAN take your time writing a reply, not unlike in IRC where you have to react instantaneously and are more inclined to just type "lol" than elaborate that you are laughing.
It's equally annoying when i see kids tranferring "lol" from the virtual to real word, using it instead of REALLY laughing... that is were proper usage line of "lol" drops instantly.
Now i've said "kids" use this frequently... having noticed that, i reminded myself that i'm just 26 years old... and yet, i feel like an oldtimer when i hear kids speak these days.
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Lol
Does anyone have a firmware with Windows Mobile 7 I can flash to the Diamond?
Many Thanks.
this is the funniest post I've ever read
windows mobile 7 is not released yet.....expected in 2009 maybe summer.
still in production line i guess.... so wait till next year dude.
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this is the funniest post I've ever read
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Yea its really funny reading peoples questions
harrysaab said:
windows mobile 7 is not released yet.....expected in 2009 maybe summer.
still in production line i guess.... so wait till next year dude.
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Thanks for the info, and not criticising me
lol.. it is kinda funny though.. being that you were serious.
all it takes is a few minutes to find out that wm7 hasnt finished development.
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Does anyone have a firmware with Windows Mobile 7 I can flash to the Diamond?
Many Thanks.
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Actually, it's a sad commentary on how little regard people have for others' time and effort. Too many people don't have the courtesy to expend some effort on their own before cluttering up a site with useless questions like this one. The worst part is incessant abuse like this drives away people whose posts are valuable to others. This is inconsiderate behavior on par with spitting on others' shoes, riding your bike/skateboard/etc. on a sidewalk, jaywalking, etc..
2259 said:
Does anyone have a firmware with Windows Mobile 7 I can flash to the Diamond?
Many Thanks.
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I got one but cannot release yet probably a month or two when its more stable
Way cool
King of the castle!
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Actually, it's a sad commentary on how little regard people have for others' time and effort. Too many people don't have the courtesy to expend some effort on their own before cluttering up a site with useless questions like this one. The worst part is incessant abuse like this drives away people whose posts are valuable to others. This is inconsiderate behavior on par with spitting on others' shoes, riding your bike/skateboard/etc. on a sidewalk, jaywalking, etc..
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Right and wrong you are. Its a demonstration of ignorance without the intention of being disrespectful. People are simply uneducated when it comes to proper forum etiquette. You cant stop that. But you can assure yourself that all it takes are posts like this that will generate some flames and the OP will think twice about choosing not to search before posting.
You cant prevent posts like this, its inevitable.. but people do learn, and that's what you get with public forums.
Jay-walk enough times and your bound to get hit by a car..
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Actually, it's a sad commentary on how little regard people have for others' time and effort. Too many people don't have the courtesy to expend some effort on their own before cluttering up a site with useless questions like this one. The worst part is incessant abuse like this drives away people whose posts are valuable to others. This is inconsiderate behavior on par with spitting on others' shoes, riding your bike/skateboard/etc. on a sidewalk, jaywalking, etc..
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yawn.
Thanks dutty for the response.
Noob
lol
Sorry Dude Xd
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Actually, it's a sad commentary on how little regard people have for others' time and effort. Too many people don't have the courtesy to expend some effort on their own before cluttering up a site with useless questions like this one. The worst part is incessant abuse like this drives away people whose posts are valuable to others. This is inconsiderate behavior on par with spitting on others' shoes, riding your bike/skateboard/etc. on a sidewalk, jaywalking, etc..
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I also yawn at the above.
I think you need to gain some life experience and the much needed perspective that comes with it. I actually think it's people like you that can ruin a forum. Empathy, tolerance and patience are the incandescent qualities that the cooks and senior users of this forum display to EVERYONE on this forum. They make this place what it is. You should try to emulate them.
simcarloc said:
I also yawn at the above.
I think you need to gain some life experience and the much needed perspective that comes with it. I actually think it's people like you that can ruin a forum. Empathy, tolerance and patience are the incandescent qualities that the cooks and senior users of this forum display to EVERYONE on this forum. They make this place what it is. You should try to emulate them.
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landshark expressed very politely his opinion.
people like you that can ruin a forum.
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wow! and you call for tolerance?!
this place like any other place in the world (including the deepest jungle) has its rules. ignoring the rules (in this case a very basic one) can be sometimes tolerated but not encouraged the way you are doing. next time the same noob will yawn at you
Oh give me a break!
His remarks were not polite or informative, in fact, they were designed to denigrate. There was no need for it at all - it's noobie bashing and you know it. I'm not encouraging the breaking of rules at all, where did I say or imply that?
I am however encouraging tolerance, that's not to say that people can't point noobies towards the search functions and rules of the forum; to make them feel bad is just spiteful.
And yes, I am intolerant towards people who like to pick on the less-informed.
To compare asking questions to 'insulting people' is absolutely ridiculous.
im just sick of dumb people...they are breeding and we must stop it! lol
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im just sick of dumb people...they are breeding and we must stop it! lol
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I rest my case.
its time for a brave new world! bring on the triffids!
I need a symbian OS cab to put it on my Diamond please
i was thinking more along the lines of OSX???
I LIKE TO USE GOOGLES ONT HE INTERNETZ SO I CAN SEE STUFZ LIKE WINDOWS MOBILE 7
After doing that, I quickly realize that it is not even out yet and don't make a new thread about it.
I just posted on another forum (not a phone forum) about my diamond. I actually did it in a thread about the new iphone, not to hijack so much as to tease. Anyway, someone decided to reply "complete ****" about my new diamond, compared to the iphone. Obivously the guy is a moron, but out of interest, is the iphone superior and if so, by how much? Is it regarded as a pocket pc in the same way the diamond is, or a smartphone? Does the iphone have a stylus, and can you put as many apps on it as windows mobile phone?
Is it as versatile as the diamond?
WTF? You have 64 posts here and you make that kind of question????
Here's a gift for you anyway...you can decide for yourself:
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...amond&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
This guy said what i would like:
Originally Posted by mttcee:
Finally, the iPhone feels like a dinner in an high-class restaurant. You get four courses of finest french cuisine in a styled environment and pay 400 bucks for two persons. You are entirely impressed but still hungry because of small portions on big plates. So the next time you just get a Big Mac, french fries and a Coke when you are hungry, no style but you get what you asked for. Thats Windows.
*I wish people would read as much as they talk...
And someone, please, close this thread!
cel15 said:
WTF? You have 64 posts here and you make that kind of question????
Here's a gift for you anyway...you can decide for yourself:
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825531964825142534%3Acqr2sjirilw&q=iphone+diamond&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
This guy said what i would like:
Originally Posted by mttcee:
Finally, the iPhone feels like a dinner in an high-class restaurant. You get four courses of finest french cuisine in a styled environment and pay 400 bucks for two persons. You are entirely impressed but still hungry because of small portions on big plates. So the next time you just get a Big Mac, french fries and a Coke when you are hungry, no style but you get what you asked for. Thats Windows.
*I wish people would read as much as they talk...
And someone, please, close this thread!
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Happy Meal you too.
Roman5 said:
**** you too.
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You don't seem to read english well. Especially because of the reaction to the reply that seemed too informative for your faulty brain. Or you just happen to be a gay-twink who thinks licking a cult thingie is neater than having a powertool. Sell your diamond, you will never understand how to use it. And quit being a fetishist perv
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You don't seem to read english well. Especially because of the reaction to the reply that seemed too informative for your faulty brain. Or you just happen to be a gay-twink who thinks licking a cult thingie is neater than having a powertool. Sell your diamond, you will never understand how to use it. And quit being a fetishist perv
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Rofl, another moron. Hey mate, it's ok to be jealous of me picking up a free diamond yesterday, having a half price t mobile tariff for life, half price internet access and half price 3G. I understand your envy considering you're so poor you don't even have a pot to piss in, and christ knows what a pot costs in estonia, lol.
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Rofl, another moron. Hey mate, it's ok to be jealous of me picking up a free diamond yesterday, having a half price t mobile tariff for life, half price internet access and half price 3G. I understand your envy considering you're so poor you don't even have a pot to piss in, and christ knows what a pot costs in estonia, lol.
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ok,i thought this post has started bad, but NOW is really getting ridiculous. We're not gonna argue here. Enjoy all your money and your paying 3g internet (mine is free, lol), i'm just signaling this to a moderator, wich is what i should have done from the start instead of helping you and directing to a search..
Please, close it.
cel15 said:
ok,i thought this post has started bad, but NOW is really getting ridiculous. We're not gonna argue here. Enjoy all your money and your paying 3g internet (mine is free, lol), i'm just signaling this to a moderator, wich is what i should have done from the start instead of helping you and directing to a search..
Please, close it.
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Mate, do what the **** you like. It's just a phone forum, lol. YOU started this ****, all I did was ask some simple questions and all YOU had to do was answer it politely or stay the **** away. I had already done the google iphone v diamond search BEFORE I posted here. All I wanted was a personal answer to my own personal questions. After all, it IS a forum for asking questions, is it not?
But you're obviously a complete prat.
I closed this thread, because it was going to be another flame war.
EqX
Alrighty then, what brings out the worst in oneself?
For me, it is boredom. When I'm bored, I transform into a malevolent being capable of endless joy and humour.
At others' expense.
People asking ridiculous questions on this forum really grinds my gears.
Lane discipline on islands, bad drivers in general.
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mercianary said:
Lane discipline on islands, bad drivers in general.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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+over 9000
I HATE middle-lane drivers and people cutting across roundabout lanes when I'm trying to turn right.
People, in general.
Not the like-minded ones who gravitate to the same hang-out spots that i do, just the 99.9% general public/hoi-poloi/great unwashed masses, who share nothing except their inability to raise their average IQ's above that of a Tapeworm.
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People, in general.
Not the like-minded ones who gravitate to the same hang-out spots that i do, just the 99.9% general public/hoi-poloi/great unwashed masses, who share nothing except their inability to raise their average IQ's above that of a Tampon.
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+over 9000
I HATE middle-aged drivers and people cutting across lanes when I'm trying to turn.
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FTFM. Now that you know how I drive...
Spam from the dead!
-We do what we must because we can; for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead-
Holy Necro-Thread Batman!
I was about to post that it was a good idea for a thread..
..and then realised it was. 3 months ago!
I don't even remember posting in it before. Second bite at the apple... i would still say that people being dumb grinds my gears. It's got nothing to do with education. You can teach a monkey to solve puzzles. I'm not impressed by qualifications. Any idiot can memorise a bunch of stuff, regurgitate it in an exam and get 'qualified'.
I respect people for having original thoughts of their own. For being creative. Isaac Newton realised that contemporary Math wasn't cutting it.. so he invented Trigonometry. INVENTED it. I can barely spell it! Of course, while he was mostly focused on turning Lead into Gold, he somehow found the time to discover Gravity and come up with the Laws of Motion.
The highly qualified people is see at work every day are chemical Engineers and even Doctors. I sometimes wonder how some of them even manage to tie their own shoe-lace some days. Most of them are as clever as a block of cheese.
There's no excuse for being dumb. If you feel that perhaps you are dumb? Pick up some books! You've got one lifetime to find out as much as you can about the universe. Don't you feel the clock ticking...?
I can read minds, doesn't that make sense?
It's uncanny how you can sum up my frustrations into one rant. And somehow you managed to remove the swearing I would have incorporated into it as well!
-We do what we must because we can; for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead-
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I can read minds, doesn't that make sense?
It's uncanny how you can sum up my frustrations into one rant. And somehow you managed to remove the swearing I would have incorporated into it as well!
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It took an extra five minutes to edit out the swearies..!
Seriously though, i've been around people of all walks of life. There are two individuals that spring to mind. One was a Tree Surgeon, (arborist), and the other was a common labourer...same as i was. The former was my age, my level of 'education', and even in my line of work.. but man did he make me think. He questioned everything, (same as i did), but the conversations we had would go on forever. "If i kicked out the door-stop...", one conversation went.. "where does the energy go when the door slams shut?", he asked. That one went on for hours!
Bearing in mind that this this was a fit, popular guy with a stunning girlfriend and a career in manual labour. He was a wealth of knowledge about Cetaceans, and most anything about the animal kingdom. He taught me that i still had a lot to learn myself! It wasn't the fact that this stuff even crossed his mind that surprised me.. it was that he questioned everything. It was that curiosity that made him awesome. You could see that behind his eyes were cogs that were always turning. Someone else with a thirst for knowledge!
The other example was a kid i knew who was trying to earn a bit of cash-in-hand, doing the hard labour on a day-rate. We'd chat while we worked and we'd get into the deeper discussions of Evolutionary Psychology, for example. Told well, maybe some students will listen... of those, some might even understand the subject matter. Of those who understand, you might find a few who could go one step further and add something novel to the conversation.. come up with an original suggestion or two of their own. So here's a 17 year old kid who having never even thought about it before is suddenly discussing the subject with me like a pro! Not only discussing it, but taking it places even i hadn't thought of. He's making me re-think my own beliefs!
That is insight! That is the same flexibility of mind that led the great thinkers of our time to advance science, not only in small steps, but in giant leaps! Few have that ability..and when it comes, it's often from the most unexpected places! Einstein was a Patent Clerk, for instance. Ok, he was a Math prodigy too, but i bet he didn't waste his free time watching reality TV shows!
If only a fraction of the people in the world were allowed to reach their potential, we'd be in the midst of a second Renaissance right now. Instead, we're held back as a race by short-sightedness, inertia, dogma..and an unforgivable amount of ignorance!
*And that, Ladies and germs, will have to be my rant for the night! I'm sure it could have been a better read, but i'm not one of those who will advance human knowledge in any significant way. One of you you could be though...if you could just get off of your fat, lazy arses first!
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Holy Necro-Thread Batman!
I was about to post that it was a good idea for a thread..
..and then realised it was. 3 months ago!
I don't even remember posting in it before. Second bite at the apple... i would still say that people being dumb grinds my gears. It's got nothing to do with education. You can teach a monkey to solve puzzles. I'm not impressed by qualifications. Any idiot can memorise a bunch of stuff, regurgitate it in an exam and get 'qualified'.
I respect people for having original thoughts of their own. For being creative. Isaac Newton realised that contemporary Math wasn't cutting it.. so he invented Trigonometry. INVENTED it. I can barely spell it! Of course, while he was mostly focused on turning Lead into Gold, he somehow found the time to discover Gravity and come up with the Laws of Motion.
The highly qualified people is see at work every day are chemical Engineers and even Doctors. I sometimes wonder how some of them even manage to tie their own shoe-lace some days. Most of them are as clever as a block of cheese.
There's no excuse for being dumb. If you feel that perhaps you are dumb? Pick up some books! You've got one lifetime to find out as much as you can about the universe. Don't you feel the clock ticking...?
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Man, thats's all WAAAAAY to serious for the OT forum
the_scotsman said:
Man, thats's all WAAAAAY to serious for the OT forum
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What blasphemy is this? Most people in ot that I converse with tend to be far more serious than most people out of OT OT iz sruz bidness. Don't belittle us lol jk
-We do what we must because we can; for the good of all of us, except the ones who are dead-
Lulz, how did my drunken rambles end up in here
Anyway, that's a few million more of my own brain cells successfully killed off. Or at least that's how it feels this morning!
Hello, my name is Tom-Helge.
I have a case going on the Neowin forum that i want to share with you. And this post might get a bit long.
I'm gonna explain this to you in the best possible way, so i don't sounds like i'm crazy or anything like that. But the whole case is a mess and it stinks fanboy from an admin a long way.
Let me explain you why.
Ok, the day for me 2 days ago (12.12.2012) started out with commenting on some articles about Apple requiring 30% revenue from Microsoft in SkyDrive and Office 365.
That was all fine and nothing wrong with what i was saying.
Then i suddenly got a personal message from Neobond (one of the admins) witch said that i had got 2 of my comments removed and got a warning for that, because i said some users was idiots. Witch i found very strange.
Because when i went back to see what kind of comments he had removed from me, then it was the comments where i said Apple was the idiots because of how they are and because of some of their policies, not the users as Neobond claims.
I called Apple for idiots because of their 30% revenue policy that is my own opinion. I didn't say anyone was dumb, stupid or idiots because someone liked Apple. I said the way Apple is going is idiotic.
Here is one of the comments i wrote to a user that Neobond removed: If Microsoft is removing SkyDrive or Office 365 from iOS because of this 30% revenue thing, then i recommend you to find someone else to use that isn't idiots.
I think it was that comment that triggered Neobonds actions. But if you read closely, you will see that i'm actually calling Apple for the idiots here because of the 30% revenue thing (witch again is my own personal opinion).
Then i asked Neobond if he could explain to me on why he then removed my comments when he clearly are lying to me about calling users for idiots.
Then he just replied and said No. Basicly he refused to give me any explanation at all on this, witch is rather strange coming from an admin.
Then i asked why he wouldn't explain it to me. But he didn't say anything after that for a long time. Then i got angry and said that if he didn't answer within 6 hours to me with some explanations on why he did remove my 2 comments and gave me a warning, then i would bring this case further with the other admins (he was clearly taking me as threatening him by saying that).
3-4 mins after that, he just removed the whole conversation about this. Then i wrote him a personal message and asked why he removed the conversation.
4-5 mins after that, he banned me from the forum.
Is that the way to treat their users on the Neowin forum?
To just give their users a big ass "f*** you" finger because someone said something one of the admins didn't like personally?
I wouldn't mind the warning and the 2 deleted comments if he actually could have explained to me with the truth on WHY i got that warning and got those 2 comments removed. Also that he could have provided some evidences on what i was saying, right?
This is not a good way to treat their users. And absolutely not a good way for Neowins image.
He is rude and childish the way he is. So i got a ban on wrong accusations.
My original account name is 'Tom-Helge'. You can see my profile here: http://www.neowin.net/forum/user/352710-tom-helge/
If you look at my profile, you see that i have the whole 30 comments after 2 of my comments was removed since 2010 when i registered my user.
Take a look at those comments i have and tell me how much of a troll / fanboy i'am as Neobond claims i'am.
You simply don't find any bad comments there, not by a mile. PERIOD.
Now it's true that you might find some posts here on XDA-Developers from me where i bash or talk bad about Apple long time ago. But i have never got a warning or got banned for it. Because the moderators / admins here are way better than the admins on the Neowin webpage.
If a moderator that actually owns an iPhone (yes Neobond told me that he had an iPhone) is going to mess with their users just because someone says something negative about the brand he loves / uses, then he better get another job to do, seriously (it stink Apple fanboy a long long way by the way he told me he uses an iPhone and the way he talked to me after he removed the negative comments about Apple).
I have now been trying to contact Neowin it self of some of their admins for about 1 and a half day now without getting any responses back. So my patience is over.
Now i just want to know what you think about this whole case?
Is this the right way to treat their forum users?
Have any users here seen any similar reactions from any moderators or admins here on XDA-Developers?
Now someone might come here and say he's an admin and he's always right. Well, try to tell that to the moderator here on XDA-Developers that was about to perma ban me like 1 year ago or so, because he though i was saying many bad things (that made me break many rules here), while in reality he mixed me with another user.
He did apologize to me after that. So everyone, even as moderators or admins can do wrong things.
Now, don't take me wrong, i really like the Neowin webpage, but when some of their admins is treating their users this way, then this case deserves to be heard everywhere.
If this post is placed on the wrong place, then just move it to the right place if any mods can do that then. I couldn't find any other places to post this.
Greetings from Tom-Helge.
EDIT: I added a poll with a simple question.
Have you met M_T_M?
DirkGently said:
Have you met M_T_M?
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Not that i know about. But i know he's a Senior Moderator.
But do you think this post shouldn't have been posted or?
Sounds like this Neobond guy made a mistake and didn't want to admit to making a mistake so he took the easy route and banned you.
But there's always two sides to a story so I can't really judge. None of the admins at XDA are douchebags though.
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Stop... MUFFIN TIME!!!
DirkGently said:
Have you met M_T_M?
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Doesn't look like he's met the rules either.
xaccers said:
Doesn't look like he's met the rules either.
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He's behaving like all those people who post on 4chan/b....
'This is Suzie... she broke my heart... this is her Facebook... spam it for love.'
Dude... chill.
M_T_M is a cool cabron.... don't compare him to some douche from Neowin...
Also, OP, as /B/ replies to people like you,
WE ARE NOT YOUR PERSONAL ARMY!!!!
XDA, the new Facebook.
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XDA, the new Facebook.
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*Like*
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Sly edit, Dirk.
*thumb up*
Olo!!! :silly:
DirkGently said:
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@OP....plain and simple...once you sign up to any of these privately owned forums and agree to their terms and condition, you pretty much are at their mercy. Unless you pay a fee and expect to receive a service in exchange for money (which in that case is called a bilateral contract)....you are being a allowed into someone's house and you batter behave or you'll be booted out just like it happened.
Us SMs and Admins do our best to make sure everybody adheres to the site rules but if at any moment we feel that a member has crossed a line...banned he would be and don't really have to give any real explanation. Doesn't happen often but that's the way the cookie crumbles....
Ta OP...wish you the best and next time follow the Admin, site, Mod's suggestions.
Cheers,
M_T_M
PS: InB4L