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gprs using data when trying to connect...

i was in an area with no gprs today and my kaiser was constantly trying to connect, this went on unnoticed and when i looked at my gprs tracker is racked up 38mb in one hour, thank god i have a 1gb data plan. what's going on here why does it use data to connect? and is there any way to stop it from trying to repeadily connect like that? when i try to turn off the gprs connection with comm manager or gprs manager, windows will automatically try to reconnect over and over and over again.

Any chance you have ActiveSync running in the background when you check? I'm abroad at the moment and have the same problem, this is my no.1 culprit at the moment.

nope i have nothing running in the background. i don't understand how it's using data when it's not connected. i can't figure this out, i don;t even know where to begin.

sorry double post

I have the same issue! I have no data plan and my GPRS was connected for some 39 minutes the other day!!!
Anyone any ideas? Not sure if it's the MMS messaging that is causing it...?!?

figured it out, i just left the password section blank in the connection setting that was it always promts me to enter the password everytime the phone tries to reconnect

Connection management (newbie question)

Hi all,
I don't get to spend much time with my device or surfing the net for handy little apps so I am forced to ask this probably simple/stupid question to you people in the know.
Is there a way to configure my Vodafone UK v1615 to dynamically swap between "My Work" and "My ISP" network settings so that when I leave my wireless network the device automatically knows to dial up a 3G/HSDPA connection and use that if I open something like IE?
Or should I be configuring this somewhere else, like in the applications themselves (i.e. If WiFi unavailable use 3G)?
If anyone knows of a nice (idiot proof) guide to setting up the connections on a WM6 device that'd do to save you having to type out your own long winded instructions.
Thanks in advance for all the help offered.
[MaccA]

Hi Macca,
I've not found a way to do this yet on mine, it is something I think WM6 lacks compared to Symbian. I still find it pretty simple just to hit the Fn key and then OK on the QWERTY keyboard as this switches WiFi on and off.
Something I found useful on the subject of data is the counter software you'll find on the TomTom CD that came with the phone. It gives you daily data usage, really handy for keeping check!
Have a nice evening,
edwardpeter

Hi Ed,
thanks for the tip on turning the WiFi on and off, that'll save some time!
However, if I turn WiFi off and continue trying to surf, instead of my device making a 3G data connection it just gives me a "Cannot Connect" error, check your connection settings blah blah.
I'm sure this means I've just got my device configured incorrectly because I cant believe such simple functionality isn't available... (what am I say? This is MS we're talking about!)
Can anyone shed some light on how much configuration should be to allow my phone to switch from WiFi to 3G with out reconfiguration?
Many thanks
[MaccA]

I seem to be having the opposite of this problem. My device seems to keep connecting to a 3G network by itself whilst it is already connected to a Wi-fi network. it is getting on my nerves now. I am looking for a way to stop the 3g from coming on at all, or at least ask me before connecting to 3g.
I dont get much data in my monthly plan from vodafone and dont want it getting chewed up whilst i am sitting at home with a wi-fi connection.

Bump.
Can anyone help me with this connection confusion?
Many thanks
[MaccA]

Hi,
I would also like to be able to connect to my preferred network everytime I turn on the wireless rather than having to configure it everytime. Additionally, even when I am connected and because the signal is poor, it keeps disconnecting, which requires manual connection all the time. In my laptop, although the signal is poor, it never disconnects, it just grinds it out, and keeps working. Or, my expectations are very high for this phone. Can anyone help?
Thanks from a noob.

how to get 3g connection to auto disconnect?

Just got a kaiser today. Already I have noticed that after retrieving email or browsing the internet, that 3G HSDPA stay connected, sometimes for hours of non use.
Is there some software that can say disconnect it if unused for 5 minutes?
Thanks.

Because your new I will be nice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333898&highlight=turn+data+off

work's a treat and I apprieciate your help. I'm sure it's common knowledge to most, but I'm a kaiser newb. Thanks again.

next time just use search

Why does GPRS want to connect?

Hello,
on my Diamond, I have e-mail receiving set to "manually" and both weather downloading options unchecked. However, very often, the phone tries to connect to GPRS without asking me for permission. Few days ago, I was playing with my phone, what caused turning off NoData (I dunno why - I have neither turned the Internet profile to "enable" in its settings nor uninstalled NoData). A few moments later, I was VERY suprised to see that.. phone was connected to the GPRS for over 40 minutes! I thought that it'd make my bill like $50 higher. However, it raised my bill for only ~$0,5. I have no idea neither why did it connect nor what did it wanted to do with GPRS connection. Do you have such problems either? What's the matter? How can I fix this so my phone won't want to connect without my demand? Thanks in advance.

NoData should be enough, but I don't know why it reset to enabled if you didn't do this yourself? That said, all it does is toggle some registry settings so perhaps one of the other 'tweak' apps (have you got any installed?) reset the settings...?
Mathew

Yeah, I think that other tweaking apps could make it - that was my first thought. I have Diamond Tweak and Advanced Config installed and I was playing with them, so they could change the settings. My problem though is not to make Diamond unable to connect GPRS - because NoData does everything I want in that matter. I want to know why Diamond wants to connect, while forecast and e-mails checking are off. It'd be great to know that, because maybe then it'd be possible to be sure that (even without NoData) Diamond wouldn't connect to the Internet when we don't want it to do it.

With gprs it's all about the traffic.. the more you download, the more you pay.. I deleted the settings, so it can't connect, even when it wants to.. Only use wifi anyway..
U can enable NoData, but I think it's still possible to manually turn on the connection. NoData won't work then, unless you re-enable and softreset..

djind - oh man, I know how does GPRS work and what do I pay for..
I'll repeat once again, cause I think not everyone got this right. I want to know, WHY does Diamond want to connect to GPRS if it DOESN'T want to download forecast or e-mails. I'd love to have no situations with Diamond trying to connect - without NoData, without deleting settings. Just NO CONNECTING without my CLEAR DEMAND.
Then, please tell me what can make my Diamond want to connect.

You said u were playing around, so opening a page or checking and immediately unchecking weather download or any program using gprs would trigger the connection.. or mayme by accident pressed something..
It's done like that to increase your phone company's income
How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)

Just delete the setting if nothing work, and use wifi...
I actually have unlimited 3G service, so i don't really care if it stayed connected or not (and battery is not really a issue for me..)

djind said:
How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)
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That's not going to help in this instance. Disabling auto-attachment merely stops the phone resgistering itself as a GPRS-enabled device with the network until it actually requires a data connection to be established. Hence, as soon as the OP's 'rogue app' requests a connection it will get one.
Tigrowski, sorry for the confusion - I was specifically answering your question of how to stop the phone connecting without your demand. I am not aware of an app that could identify this rogue app, but perhaps if you find a packet sniffer that'd give you some clues (i.e. from where the traffic is going, ports etc and, if using cleartext ASCII the actual data being sent).
All said and done though, I think you'd be better of just relying on NoData to put the barrier up as even when you've identified the rogue app you might not be able to make it behave. Besides which there'll likely be another one round the corner wanting to connect when it feels like it! (that was one of the reasons behind why NoData was developed, particularly for roaming users given the significant financial impact of out-of-control network-enabled apps)
Mathew
P.S. It's not QuickGPS periodically downloading almanac data is it? (check the setting as this can be controlled, although it should only be doing so weekly anyway)

How to prevent Diamond to establish Data Connection?

I'm running the original factory/stock ROM (WM 6.1) on my Diamond and recently Diamond has had a tendency to establish a data connection (GPRS; EDGHE; 3G; HSDPA) by itself.
This happens regularly, even if you try to switch it off, the session is up again after a while. I really wonder, because there shouldn't be any kind of applications whatsoever running that would raise the connection, even though I doubt if it might have something to do with the automatical check of new e-mail messages by the WM/TouchFlo's own e-mail software?
Such issue is quite annoying and expensive if one doesn't have unlimited data subscription.
Anyone with some solution(s)?
Thank You in advance!

Look for a program called NoData, Should be on these forums somewhere

Thank you Ian! NoData seems to work very well!
Problem solved.

No worries

Uncheck the auto updates e.g. weather, qgps, anything. And/or delete internet connection settings. I don't use any extra progs and my Diamond is always offline and doesn't even try to connect.