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Should I?
I just bought the iPhone a couple of days ago, and I am kind of disappointed. It lacks too many things to list. I know that sdk is supposed to be released in February, but I just don't think it can compare to the Tilt.
I will be using the phone to watch movies on, as I work nights, and that will help, so does the Tilt handle movies as well as the iPhone? I am not concerned with the slightly smaller screen size.
Since the Tilt is basically a mini computer, I know the abilities are endless, I am fairly decent in getting around a pc, plus the internet is a great help, but how hard is it to get rid of all the bloated crap at&t slaps on the phone?
I really like the iPhone's looks, and ease of use etc...but it just seems like it could be so much more, and I am stuck with at&t for another 2 years now, so I am just wondering should I switch to the Tilt before it's too late...
Thanks for any input!!
Michael
If you are going to use the tilt to watch movies... you shall be disappointed... read the various threads on video driver issue... it shall answer a lot of questions...
As far as movies go, I'd say it really depends on your standards of what quality a movie should be when viewed on a phone. What I mean is, I have seen many complaints of the video drivers on the Tilt. I think these must be from people who require/expect excellent quality video.
To me, movies look great on the Tilt, if you take into account, that this is a phone, not your 42" hdtv lcd, lol. They are definitely good enough to view, and pass time. Of course, again, standards of these things are so subjective, but this is just my 2 cents.
So, if you are looking to enjoy a good movie, in decent quality, then the Tilt is great, if you are looking for an amazing viewing experience, worthy of a videophile, then the Tilt will disappoint. From what I have heard, the iPhone is much better for video, although I have not verified this.
One of the greatest things about the tilt is the community you get here on xda-developers, meaning if you are ever stuck with something, these guys can (and will) help.
However, just using a tilt to watch movies is, imho, a bit of a waste. You may as well buy a cheap PDA if thats all you want. The tilt is an amazing device, full of features. And not using them would be doing the phone injustice.
Therefore, if you want a device which will: manage your photo/music/video album, navigate you, make video calls, make phone calls, send text's/emails, play games on, browse the net on, allow you to show off , get the tilt. If you want a device that will just let you play music and watch video's, stick with the jesusphone.
Edit: Oh by the way, I agree with cincy, i think movie's look spot on on the tilt.
Well to first clear up the confusion, I don't want it just to watch movies on lol...I just meant is it able to watch movies, because I work nights, and need something to pass the time with, ie watching a movie. That is just the only thing I am concerned with, I am aware of all of the other features the Tilt has to offer, and in my opinion it is in a class of it's own compared to the iPhone. I just wanted to make sure it could also play movies, so that I can combine all the features too. My other main concern is my wife's Pantech Duo, seems to me rather slow and bloated, which is what I am wondering about the Tilt. I am decent with PC's, but there are still many things I don't know, and just wanted to find out how easy it would be to clean it up to make it run more efficient.
Yes this forum is great, Apple has nothing this nice to help lol...Thanks for the replies, I have pretty much made up my mind to take the iPhone back and get the Tilt, so you shall be hearing from me again lol, for lot's of help making it work well
Well...
If you like the GUI there is an app/skin/theme for winDOS Mobile 5/6 that makes the GUI look like that of the iPhones.
http://www.iphonetheme4ppc.com/guide_QVGA/
There you go, and now that ive found it...
Im gonna install it myself!
I am an Apple MacBook pro user and love many of apples products... And i think the compatibility of the iphone and MacBook would be fantastic!
However I still prefer my Kaiser because it offers so much and isn't anywhere near as claustrophobic as the iphone with its "Apple Bluetooth" and requirement for itunes to do anything.
Dont get me wrong the iphone is nice but its a fashionable piece of Eye Candy and the Kaiser is a useful peice of engineering.
MM
PS I watch stuff on my Kaiser and playback is fine as far as i see, but there are many who loath HTC for the video drivers.
i watch movies via tcpmp during plane trips and enjoy it!
cincy1020 said:
As far as movies go, I'd say it really depends on your standards of what quality a movie should be when viewed on a phone. What I mean is, I have seen many complaints of the video drivers on the Tilt. I think these must be from people who require/expect excellent quality video.
To me, movies look great on the Tilt, if you take into account, that this is a phone, not your 42" hdtv lcd, lol. They are definitely good enough to view, and pass time. Of course, again, standards of these things are so subjective, but this is just my 2 cents.
So, if you are looking to enjoy a good movie, in decent quality, then the Tilt is great, if you are looking for an amazing viewing experience, worthy of a videophile, then the Tilt will disappoint. From what I have heard, the iPhone is much better for video, although I have not verified this.
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I have both. iPhone for my wife, Tilt for me. The video playback is night and day. I have yet to find any settings that work acceptably on the Tilt. If this is an important feature, you should look elsewhere because even if you are not a "videophile", the video is sadly disappointing.
Audio said:
Therefore, if you want a device which will: manage your photo/music/video album, navigate you, make video calls, make phone calls, send text's/emails, play games on, browse the net on, allow you to show off , get the tilt. If you want a device that will just let you play music and watch video's, stick with the jesusphone.
Edit: Oh by the way, I agree with cincy, i think movie's look spot on on the tilt.
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And BTW, the web browsing is also WAY better. Again, there is just no comparison, even with Opera.
To me, the biggests problem with the iPhone is lack of 3G, no A2DP, and poor poor PIM syncing and no GPS. Strengths, video playback, multimedia syncing, speaker playback (the speakers although small, are actually quite passable and stereo), photo viewing and web browsing.
I don't play many games, but I would consider it a strength of the iPhone. Not sure about the Tilt.
As for 3rd party apps, my (very personal) opinion is there are very few "must have" apps and the one's I use on the Tilt (Resco, ImClose, AEBPlus) are all about usability and do not really apply to the iPhone. A BIG factor here is that most of the built in MS Apps basically $uck, like the photo viewer, file manager, media player, web browser, so it is almost a must to have the option to install decent apps to "replace" the built in ones. In this way, I think HTC is really doing well in mitigating the poor usability of the MS Apps. Like being able to navigate a playlist with a hardware button? No can do with Windows Media Player mobile. WTF???
You can see this even with the HTC shipped products. Their stuff is better that MS too, and many people come here to look for the HTC programs, many even cook them into ROMS.
So now I have to have room for two apps that do the same thing and it basically clutters up my device. Sort of like the 4 remotes I have to use just to watch TV at home. To me this is poor implementation.
So I am probably in the monority here, but once the iPhone supports GPS, a decent turn by turn navigation program like Tom Tom/ iGo and A2DP, and better syncing, I will be dumping my Tilt (much the same way as I have dumped MS Windows). I expect most of these features will come by the end of 2008.
Audio said:
One of the greatest things about the tilt is the community you get here on xda-developers, meaning if you are ever stuck with something, these guys can (and will) help.
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And if this community is SO helpful, how about sharing details on your video encoding specs, because after weeks of trying, I can't seem to find anything that works, and I have posted 3 times about it and get only a handful of responses.
memnoch_thedevil said:
Should I?
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I will be using the phone to watch movies on, as I work nights, and that will help, so does the Tilt handle movies as well as the iPhone? I am not concerned with the slightly smaller screen size.
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Michael
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You must have a cool job where you "work" and watch videos at the same time ?!
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And BTW, the web browsing is also WAY better. Again, there is just no comparison, even with Opera.
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Actually, it's only a small wait now untill Opera Mobile 9 is released (H1 of 2008 I believe) which will (apparently) be the ultimate Mobile Browser.
jgermuga said:
And if this community is SO helpful, how about sharing details on your video encoding specs, because after weeks of trying, I can't seem to find anything that works, and I have posted 3 times about it and get only a handful of responses.
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Probably not a good idea to log into a forum and show disrespect to it's other members.
As for your question, to view movies I simply use TCPMP with a few codecs (which I can't remember the names of, sorry) and videos work like a charm.
I also use Kingdia Video Converter to convert my movies to .avi (if they're not .avi already), then use Ashampoo Movie Shrink & Burn to compress the movie to QVGA size. Brilliant Quality, small File size, win win win!
imo, iPhone is a joke.
You pay for a PDA and get a fancy, bulky cell phone.
DarkDvr said:
imo, iPhone is a joke.
You pay for a PDA and get a fancy, bulky cell phone.
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You clearly have not played with one much. The iPhone is smaller, lighter, thinner, and much more aesthetically appealing than the Tilt. In February, Apple is releasing SDK for third party Apps, and a GPS attachment (here: http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2007/12/17/gps-add-on-for-the-iphone-demonstrated-to-ship-in-february/
is supposed to be in the works as well. And I suppose not unlike the Tilt, I could always Jailbreak my iPhone, and put homebrew on it, but the iPhone was designed to be a lot harder to take care of if something goes wrong, like the battery not taking a charge any more, you would have to send it in to Apple, but you couldn't because of breaking the warranty. At least with the Tilt, you can put back what you have done to at least get repairs lol....
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Probably not a good idea to log into a forum and show disrespect to it's other members.
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By community I mean the forum in general. It is the method of communication I am speaking to not the individual members. I fully realize many people have contributed lots of work and advice, and I try to do the same when I am able, but by nature of this being an open ended forum, you don't always find answers to your questions. It can be hit or miss. It just depends sometimes if someone happens to see your post and have an answer. How is that disrespectful?
Back on point, I think this forum is helpful in learning about Windows Mobile products and sometimes getting specific questions answered. This is something also available via Apple, in addition to dedicated product support, which both Apple and HTC offer. If I were considering it as a factor in buying a product, I would score one for the Tilt, as I think this forum is better than the Apple forum, but I would score one for Apple as well because I think their dedicated support is better (stateside anyway, plus it helps I have both an official and unofficial store near me and can walk in and talk to a person).
But are you also sure there isn't another "undocumented" forum much like this one for the Apple products, because BTW HTC also has a forum which leaves a lot to be desired.
DarkDvr said:
imo, iPhone is a joke.
You pay for a PDA and get a fancy, bulky cell phone.
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Well I love PPC, but obviously you must not have owned an iPhone. I switched back to Windows Mobile for technical reasons, but I have to say we're far away from the iPhone UI. PointUI has a long way to go, everything in the iPhone is connected.
I still surf with Safari, when I have free time, and sitting in front of the TV at home.
lol I just came back from the iphone myself.
Like you, I wanted it for video playback. The screen is great and video playback was smooth.
But there were too many basic things that you couldn't do even with jailbreaking the phone that just left me annoyed.
if you don't mind re-encoding your video the tilt is fine. I re-encoded all my videos to slightly smaller res and put it into an mp4 container and played it on coreplayer. Video Playback is smooth, but it could be smoother with better driver support. But I'm not complaining.
To me, the Tilt spins circles around the iphone.
memnoch_thedevil said:
Should I?
I just bought the iPhone a couple of days ago, and I am kind of disappointed. It lacks too many things to list. I know that sdk is supposed to be released in February, but I just don't think it can compare to the Tilt.
I will be using the phone to watch movies on, as I work nights, and that will help, so does the Tilt handle movies as well as the iPhone? I am not concerned with the slightly smaller screen size.
Since the Tilt is basically a mini computer, I know the abilities are endless, I am fairly decent in getting around a pc, plus the internet is a great help, but how hard is it to get rid of all the bloated crap at&t slaps on the phone?
I really like the iPhone's looks, and ease of use etc...but it just seems like it could be so much more, and I am stuck with at&t for another 2 years now, so I am just wondering should I switch to the Tilt before it's too late...
Thanks for any input!!
Michael
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Not sure how far your computer skills go but trust me, the iPhone is more of a computer than the HTC TyTN II.
You seem to miss the point of the iPhone (the ingenius GUI/OS/touch operation), forget about the crappy EDGE and the lousy camera, this is not why people buy the iPhone.
Watching movies/listening to music is more fun with the iPhone due to the fantastic display quality.
Right now, I'm using three phones: the iPhone (hacked, has more than two dozends of third party apps installed and works like a charm), the HTC TyTN II (business stuff) and the Nokia N95 8GB (family vacations, leisure time).
My favourite is still the iPhone but I wish Apple would have offered it with UMTS/HSDPA from the start.
Infornography said:
lol I just came back from the iphone myself.
To me, the Tilt spins circles around the iphone.
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Only when it comes to third party apps and especially data connections.
Otherwise, the iPhone is by far superior. Of course if you don't mind the sluggish GUI operation of the TyTN II, not even mentioning the ridiculous touch screen operation HTC wants to sell us as innovative, the TyTN II really is a great phone. Don't get me wrong: the iPhone lacks a lot of features but using it on a daily basis as my main phone, I like it much more than the TyTN II or the Nokia N95 8GB. I won't even mention the Nokia E90 which sleeps well in an office drawer since I got the iPhone.
The iPhone is no business phone though, no blackberry support, MS Exchange support is half-baked at best and although the mail application is the best I've ever seen on a phone, the PIM capability is somehow limited compared to other "smartphones".
There is however a catch regarding the iPhone: if you're not a regular and enthusiastic iTunes customer, the iPhone may not satisfy you completely.
The ingenius thing about the iPhone is the easy operation and for the first time finally a satisfying touch control operation.
DarkDvr said:
imo, iPhone is a joke.
You pay for a PDA and get a fancy, bulky cell phone.
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Expert speaking... *LOL*
Please try this if you are suffering problems with video playback on your Kaiser (NOT VIDEO GAMES).
Go to the OFFICIAL DivX website and download the latest full package. Try out the DivX converter using the setting 'Mobile' (you can try it for a period then if you like it you can then purchase it).
This device has its faults but if you are not prepared to work around this you should not post on this developers site!
I can play any movie file over WiFi from my WLHDD2.5 in perfect rendition (for a PDA) after doing this with the basic TCPMP set to GDI playback.
JUST GIVE IT A TRY, you have nothing to lose!!!
EDIT..Use the .81 version of TCPMP if you can get it, buffer processing is faster.
Farsquidge said:
Please try this if you are suffering problems with video playback on your Kaiser (NOT VIDEO GAMES).
Go to the OFFICIAL DivX website and download the latest full package. Try out the DivX converter using the setting 'Mobile' (you can try it for a period then if you like it you can then purchase it).
This device has its faults but if you are not prepared to work around this you should not post on this developers site!
I can play any movie file over WiFi from my WLHDD2.5 in perfect rendition (for a PDA) after doing this with the basic TCPMP set to GDI playback.
JUST GIVE IT A TRY, you have nothing to lose!!!
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Again, we all know we can view videos at a good speed after having converted them. But our Kaiser should read them with no conversion at all.
We have enough solutions to convert videos, thanks for this one, but it is just one more ...
dizzy33 said:
Again, we all know we can view videos at a good speed after having converted them. But our Kaiser should read them with no conversion at all.
We have enough solutions to convert videos, thanks for this one, but it is just one more ...
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I can not assist the mentally blocked so please do not give negatives until people have had time to try it THANKS!!
One would like to ask where it is said that Windows Mobile plays un-converted files??? It is primarily designed to sync via Windows media player.(as is the iSpudge with its PC software)..All other video playback is user selected and not fully supported. No lawsuit here I'm afraid...
OH, and BTW, did you selectively miss this in the first post???
'This device has its faults but if you are not prepared to work around this you should not post on this developers site! '
deleted ....problem solved.... i am just too stupid lol
samlee860407 said:
hm....my kaiser cant play the file that i converted using divx ....
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If you used the OFFICIAL DiVx converter in the latest DiVx full package, it would play with any TCPMP! You have some setup problem there buddy...
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If you used the OFFICIAL DiVx converter in the latest DiVx full package, it would play with any TCPMP! You have some setup problem there buddy...
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yes...i just firgue it out that i cant double click the converted file and expect it to play @@
then i try to edit before you post...but then again i din click the post button...lol
anyway...thanks alot bro
the quality is good, just that nid to spend some time to convert
btw, Farsquidge, did you use core media player before?
samlee860407 said:
yes...i just firgue it out that i cant double click the converted file and expect it to play @@
then i try to edit before you post...but then again i din click the post button...lol
anyway...thanks alot bro
the quality is good, just that nid to spend some time to convert
btw, Farsquidge, did you use core media player before?
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No, I am stuck here with TCPMP until I get back to UK to purchase the new Coreplayer as my cred card wont work from the UAE online.
I am just trying to pass on any workarounds I find to others. I expect a massive factor of improvement when I get it but anything before that will also help others.
ah....massive improvement huh
is coreplayer really that good?
really wish to try it, only if i no need to pay 1st
but then the divx convertor is really easy to use, just that it takes time to convert
CorePlayer
samlee860407 said:
is coreplayer really that good?
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Definitely !
Cheers
hrb
samlee860407 said:
ah....massive improvement huh
is coreplayer really that good?
really wish to try it, only if i no need to pay 1st
but then the divx convertor is really easy to use, just that it takes time to convert
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Yep, it does!! But has patience been lost? We are developers... Not miracle workers.. Even iTunes takes full control of the other type of unit (COMPLETELY!) to convert...I think the fact we still have a factor of control on our devices to CHOOSE is befuddling people... If it was all fully auto then XDA would no longer exist!!!
ahh....hehe, good good
well...maybe coz i am converting prison break and stuff which is quite big in file....hehe
thanks all again
Farsquidge said:
One would like to ask where it is said that Windows Mobile plays un-converted files??? It is primarily designed to sync via Windows media player.(as is the iSpudge with its PC software)..All other video playback is user selected and not fully supported. No lawsuit here I'm afraid...
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Video??? I can't even get WMP to sync more than 30 songs before dropping the connection. It took me 5 nights of sitting there reconnecting every 90 minutes or so just to get 4GB of music synced up. I have to say, this is one job the iPhone handles WAY, WAY, WAY better. The whole MS thing is just sad and disappointing.
It's funny that everyone talks about how it is nice to be able to install 3rd party apps to make your device better. Yes, you can not yet install 3rd party apps on the iPhone, but the biggest point is, in many case you don't need to. The browser works great, chat works great, music playback works great, video playback works great, google maps work great, email works great, etc....
My suggestion for video on the Kaiser is, don't waste your time with it. I have wasted 10s of hours trying and it is just not worth it. I have tried 6 different encoders including DivX, Pocket Divx, Handbrake, 4 different file types and countless bitrates, framerates and codecs.
tbh,i would really wanted an iphone but there are some major flaw that why i din buy it although its my dream phone
1st, its not available in my place officially(only can get cracked version), no 3g, no mms,can edit word,excel and blah blah
and although i dont knw will i face the same problem when i am syncing songs, as i haven try yet
but no, you dont need to waste 10hours to get ur kaiser to play video
just downlaod tctm, install it in kaiser
download divx, convert it as the 1st post says so, then upload to ur device...done
less then 30minutes all done
jgermuga said:
Video??? I can't even get WMP to sync more than 30 songs before dropping the connection. It took me 5 nights of sitting there reconnecting every 90 minutes or so just to get 4GB of music synced up. I have to say, this is one job the iPhone handles WAY, WAY, WAY better. The whole MS thing is just sad and disappointing.
It's funny that everyone talks about how it is nice to be able to install 3rd party apps to make your device better. Yes, you can not yet install 3rd party apps on the iPhone, but the biggest point is, in many case you don't need to. The browser works great, chat works great, music playback works great, video playback works great, google maps work great, email works great, etc....
My suggestion for video on the Kaiser is, don't waste your time with it. I have wasted 10s of hours trying and it is just not worth it. I have tried 6 different encoders including DivX, Pocket Divx, Handbrake, 4 different file types and countless bitrates, framerates and codecs.
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OK, BUT, please don't express your opinion until you have tested this yourself and posted any problems with it! Let others decide???
Many thanks..
That's a great idea, Farsquidge!
I know this topic has been covered extensively (see here), but all applications which provide help to the user are welcome.
A freeware alternative is available, too, which you may be interested in (and requires a bit of tweaking for us tech-inclined): http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
vpoet said:
That's a great idea, Farsquidge!
I know this topic has been covered extensively (see here), but all applications which provide help to the user are welcome.
A freeware alternative is available, too, which you may be interested in (and requires a bit of tweaking for us tech-inclined): http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
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I hope some can use this to move forward.
Best thing I have from you is the sig tag... Just taken it as my mother died 15/01/08 of cancer so have joined your group.
Farsquidge said:
I hope some can use this to move forward.
Best thing I have from you is the sig tag... Just taken it as my mother died 15/01/08 of cancer so have joined your group.
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I am so sorry for your loss. My mother had breast cancer year before last, and my grandmother before her. It's great to know, though, that our children may have no need to worry about such a devastating disease with the research our generations are putting into this area. God bless you, Farsquidge!
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I am so sorry for your loss. My mother had breast cancer year before last, and my grandmother before her. It's great to know, though, that our children may have no need to worry about such a devastating disease with the research our generations are putting into this area. God bless you, Farsquidge!
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Thanks, I have her in my heart always, and, as we were both from Yorkshire, England...she would say, 'If you don't mean what you say, I will tan your hide!!'
She was a pearl!!!
I use a product called "Wondershare DVD Ripper Suite" (has a ripper and a converter) and it has a nice batch feature as well. I have also had success with "SPB DVD" and "DVD to PocketPC" by a company called Makayama. "Ashampoo Shrink and Burn 3" does fine for me as well. Also, I have noticed that Windows Media Player performs some type of conversion/compression when syncing. For example, "Star Wars 3" is a 855 MB WMV file, but when I synced it to my device it was only 359 MB. However, when I transferred the original 855 MB file to my storage card using a card reader it was still 855 MB - what is Windows Media Player doing besides syncing?
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what is Windows Media Player doing besides syncing?
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It is probably doing its best to convert a video file (of which there are MANY formats) to the preferred WM AVI PDA format. If you do not have the corresponding CODEC in your PC WM player it will not even try..Everyone has to try to standardise their media format for the player designate. If you expect the file you have on your PC/Laptop to play the same on your portable device 100% without conversion then I am afraid you are living in cloud cuckoo land! The processor speed and video codecs are radically different for WM devices against full Windows machines. (irrespective of any driver omission before anyone starts!!)
Aspect Ratio is not only for screen playback... it is for what you expect from your device....
I ahve a hava platinum HD it will "sling" video to like 1 internet connection and 2 locals (I think, dont hold me to these numbers) I know it takes more connections than the comperably priced slingbox, I got mine used on fleabay for like 50$ it would be nice to controll my 500+ channel 250 hours SA2 tivo hak'd to the ma'x, and Id love to serve it up to my g1 in a long line or anywhere else I get bored, which is often.
one exists for the maemo hildon nokia N800 so maybe it wouldnt be a difficult port, it would be very cool and these boxes unlike the sling are very cheap, if HD is just 50$ imagine the deals you could find on a standard def unit, Id also like to see an xbox port of the same player, but thats a whole other discussion board, as it is it streams to PC, smartphone by MS, and windows media and xbox360(i think) so the standard is there to be sniffed if that helps any...
bhang
im in the same boat. i got a hava player a few months back, streamed it great to my old dash. then i got the g1. monsoon said they wont even start to develop a player until they watch the android market for a while to gauge interest..
i hope sling is getting their app out soon.... the petition is only growing
cool Im not the only one
I looked at prices and specs of slings and havas and the hava seemed to be the hands down winner...
if hava wont do it maybe somebody will R.E. it and we will get a hava player for anything we want, thats the reason HAVA needs to do it before the demand gets big, or somebody will want to stream the hava to sumthin they have thats not supported and do it themselves...
that almost sounded like a threat, but it wasn't....
bhang
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an xbox version would be nice too....
dont need it. just install orb onto your pc where you normally watch your hava, and install opera browser on your android device. Set the default stream to 3gp and you can download a stream file that is about 700mb. Works great on my droid, but unfortunately the default media player does not use the full screen. The audio and vid is still great quality and the orb interface (mycast.orb.com) has a great interface for choosing the station you want to stream. I prefer it to the virtual controller of hava actually.
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dont need it. just install orb onto your pc where you normally watch your hava, and install opera browser on your android device. Set the default stream to 3gp and you can download a stream file that is about 700mb. Works great on my droid, but unfortunately the default media player does not use the full screen. The audio and vid is still great quality and the orb interface (mycast.orb.com) has a great interface for choosing the station you want to stream. I prefer it to the virtual controller of hava actually.
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Can you explain how orb changes the channel of the ricochet that's connected to the hava? Thanks
Check this out!
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-applications/7036-hava-android-app.html
Has sold me on android for my next phone.
Now if WM7 gets Zune support...
I've had a Hava for around 2 years now, they say early next year, look for the app a year after that... They rarely hit target dates.
Unofficial Hava Player for Android: It's called Testtube
sites.google.com/site/overvoltagesoft/home/testtube
It's still a little rough around the edges, but it's great someone took it upon themselves to do this.
Spread the word .
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Unofficial Hava Player for Android: It's called Testtube
sites.google.com/site/overvoltagesoft/home/testtube
It's still a little rough around the edges, but it's great someone took it upon themselves to do this.
Spread the word .
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Thank you for this!!!! Just got my At&t Nexus and was thinking about my Hava player... I bought the app on my Iphone and loved it. This is going to be great... will install and give it a shot tonight. Assuming this works over 3G which will be a great advantage to the iphone player
TestTube Android HAVA Player
Search for TestTube on Market. I have a G1 and TestTube works great as a HAVA player on my phone. Setup was a little tricky. I had to port forward port 1778 on my router to my HAVA device. Other tricky piece of the setup was making sure I had the correct HAVA remote control code.
can not find the software anyplace....
Has anyone seen were it went to
I've been using testube for a while, using it for my titanium hd. I just heard that Monsoon Multimidea released the Vulkano app across many platforms and it's backwards compatible with the hava devices as well (not just the new vulkano devices). Its a free app, and though I havent used it yet, its seems just like what we've wanted.
Fellow iphone users have mentioned to me that the Vulkano app does infact work with the old hava devices.
h**p://www.monsoonmultimedia.com/players_android.html
cholepuree1 said:
I've been using testube for a while, using it for my titanium hd. I just heard that Monsoon Multimidea released the Vulkano app across many platforms and it's backwards compatible with the hava devices as well (not just the new vulkano devices). Its a free app, and though I havent used it yet, its seems just like what we've wanted.
Fellow iphone users have mentioned to me that the Vulkano app does infact work with the old hava devices.
h**p://www.monsoonmultimedia.com/players_android.html
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Says it can't locate my wireless Hd. Anyone having any luck with this?
I just installed vulkano player on my sprit EVO 4g an it work fine on wifi and 3g.
I do not hav 4g yet.
You can download player from android market just type monsoon in searchfield and it schows up.
I am using it with hava platinum and the quality is acceptable
same here not working with wireless hd
Sup all i was reating BGR and i saw this
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/16/eyetv-has-backdoor-built-in-allows-streaming-over-3g/
its a app for the Iphone that you can watch TV over 3g with and i've seen a few other apps that was for the Iphone that got ported to the G1 so maybe its possible to do this one also
GO GO GADGET PORT!!
there allready si a tv app for android but it only has like 2 chanels on the trial version. the full version has a ton i saw it on one of the android news sites a few months ago...
i've try that but it isn't good as it sound horrible picture and wont play 4 more than 5 minutes buffering all the time uninstalled refund not worth $10
Freedomcaller said:
there allready si a tv app for android but it only has like 2 chanels on the trial version. the full version has a ton i saw it on one of the android news sites a few months ago...
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That is true, there are actually 2 TV apps in the market. SPB TV and Television. Both of them are HORRIBLE. I mean seriously, who in the US is interested in Al Jazeerah TV? or the christian programming channel? C'mon. Those apps have the worst channels I've seen. with like 10 24 hour news channels in all sorts of languages. I guess if you have nothing better to do it is worth turning on, but not paying for it.
This is just an opinion from a new yorkers POV
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Sup all i was reating BGR and i saw this
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009/10/16/eyetv-has-backdoor-built-in-allows-streaming-over-3g/
its a app for the Iphone that you can watch TV over 3g with and i've seen a few other apps that was for the Iphone that got ported to the G1 so maybe its possible to do this one also
GO GO GADGET PORT!!
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EyeTV is an USB TV Tuner for Mac and‚ (possibly PC) that allows you to watch TV on your computer. The iphone app appears to stream data from your computer to your iphone rather than streaming directly from an internet feed. So although this is very useful, it is probably slightly different to what you're looking for.
In the UK we have a decent BBC TV app which will stream over wifi and 3G (dependent on your provider).
Hmmmmm anyone tried streaming over the web from Hulu or fancast...... both are free.
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ooops both need flash to work. I guess we will have to wait for the long awaited plugin promised by Adobe
Orb.com works in android via the browser... no app needed.
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Orb.com works in android via the browser... no app needed.
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How does it work, if you don't mind me asking. Thanks
You install the Orb server software on your home PC, as well as a TV tuner card. The orb server software is able to stream the tv signal from the tuner card over the internet via .3gp to your phone. Check out their website and search for "android orb" in google. There's tons of threads about it.
Everyone should try vuivision.com its free and has live fox, cbs, nbc, and abc
how do you watch vuivision on your phone? i went there, enter my email, chose a network, and it failed to launched. says webpage cannot open. this is all through the phone's browser. is there any special method to use it?
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Everyone should try vuivision.com its free and has live fox, cbs, nbc, and abc
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I use Beebplayer, basically non-proprietary BBC iplayer with old recordings... plus live BBC channels.
Fab
pgiuoco said:
Everyone should try vuivision.com its free and has live fox, cbs, nbc, and abc
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on our phones or computer?
no6969el said:
on our phones or computer?
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On your phone.
how do you do that? care to explain a little more? it'd be awesome if i could stream some soccer games right to my phone!
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how do you watch vuivision on your phone? i went there, enter my email, chose a network, and it failed to launched. says webpage cannot open. this is all through the phone's browser. is there any special method to use it?
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worked for me, opened up in browser and when I clicked on station it opened up video player. used on 3g
(cyanogen 4.2)
holly yeah it worked not many channel yet but better than none thanks 4 the link
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damn thanks man, only a couple of channels, but they're the major ones, so that's awesome!!
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Many thanks for the tip... Works like a charm through my Steel browser. Just navigate through your web browser to the site, enter your email and you're good to go. Also pretty decent video quality and no lagging with only 2 bars on T-Mo 3G..
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still waiting for sling to grow a pair and release an app for android....
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Heard back from Sling today on an Android app and they basically said no way it's happening because Android is Linux based and not windows based. Here is the email I got:
As we understand, you want to know if the Slingbox will support the Android Operating System and Mobile device any time soon. We will be more than willing to assist you.
Android is a software platform and operating system for mobile devices, based on the Linux Operating System, developed by Google and later the Open Handset Alliance. It allows developers to write managed code in a Java-like language that utilizes Google-developed Java libraries, but does not support programs developed in native code.
Most of the supported cell phones run on Windows OS. Since Android runs on Linux OS, it is not compatible with the SlingPlayer. Therefore, Slingbox will not support it.
If you require further assistance, feel free to visit http://support.slingmedia.com or contact us at 1-877-GO-SLING (877-467-5464) Monday through Sunday 7am-7pm Pacific Time.
For future reference your case number is XXXXXX.
Best regards,
Randall
Sling Media Technical Support.
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Any information on a mobile player for Android?
Best regards,
Randall
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Hi guys,
I have to open a new thread as the previous thread is getting too long ...
We've included your all suggestions possible in new version of Mobile Online TVx.
Who have already Online TVx installed on their mobile phones, can install the new version over the previous (without registration).
Other forum members, who like Online TVx can use discount coupon: FORXDA
Great app especially with the new features.
However If I go to a new channel after watching 1 channel I always get the message "the server is busy or not responding. try again later.."
this happens both on 3G and Wifi
If i reset my device I can watch that channel.. i have a touch pro with Energy 6.5 sense 2.5 on it.
Also Is it possible to add a bit more sport channels like eurosport (with soccer and tour de France coming up?)
Thanks
Fishie said:
Also Is it possible to add a bit more sport channels like eurosport (with soccer and tour de France coming up?)
Thanks
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Hi Fishie,
I've submitted the channels I'd like to see in the next update at: http://www.onlinetvx.com/newchannel.html
Hope, they'll add those next time. You also can stick with that, hope it will help
Will I have to re-register after I flash a new ROM?
If you guys still need testers, I can help out with that. I use my phone everywhere I go.
HTC Fuze running Energy rom-Cookie Sense 23569.
tommy090888 said:
If you guys still need testers, I can help out with that. I use my phone everywhere I go.
HTC Fuze running Energy rom-Cookie Sense 23569.
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Did you see that part of the first post where he said you could get a discount if you used the code posted? You might actually want to re-read the first post. Here's a hint: they aren't giving away a 1000 free keys. Apparently, they'd like to make a little money with the app at some point.
I'd be interested in this, but for whatever reason it doesn't work for me. The application launches, but I can only get a video feed on a very few channels. Most of the channels it is able to locate the feed it'll say "Playing" but I just have a black screen in the video frame.
I assume this is probably an issue with my phone (HTC Touch Pro, Sprint's standard ROM) and Windows Media. I tried finding a cab where I can reinstall Windows Media for the streaming but I've had zero luck there. Given time it will come up with a failure message from Windows Media, so I know the player is the breaking point. But when I run Windows Media on its own I have no problems.
If I could get this working I'd snap it up with the generous discount you're giving in an instant, but as it stands the application is of no use to me.
Anyone else having this issue and any ideas on what can be done to correct it?
Edit: Resolved! Found in Windows Media that it was set to autodetect my connection speed and was stuck on 33kbs. Took off autodetect, set to fastest speed, and viola, I'm working. True to my word, I've purchased the software. Thanks for offering such a great discount to XDA
Fishie said:
Great app especially with the new features.
However If I go to a new channel after watching 1 channel I always get the message "the server is busy or not responding. try again later.."
this happens both on 3G and Wifi
If i reset my device I can watch that channel.. i have a touch pro with Energy 6.5 sense 2.5 on it.
Also Is it possible to add a bit more sport channels like eurosport (with soccer and tour de France coming up?)
Thanks
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same for me...
GReAT STUFF
Hey bro this app is great i just bought it disappointed to see that there are no anime channels tho is there any way to add some in?
thx for discount