Tytn II Screen Issue - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hy guys,
I'm new to the forum so I take advantage to greeting all. My english is poor so sorry for errors
I have bought a Tytn II on 26 January 2008, 3 days ago I found some very small horizontal lines in the screen using the PDA walking, expecially on the top or the bottom. At home I found that this horizontal lines are not due to moviments of the phone but are visible every time I move the head looking the phone, expecially looking the top and the bottom bar.
For example moving the phone with the hand are visible, looking the phone on the table and moving the head up and down are visible, but holding the eye on the screen, with the phone on the table, and without moving the pda or the head this lines are not visible......
So I don't think that the problem is due to vibrations or electric issue.
Can someone tell me if it's normal or what is the problem? Does anyone have the same issue?
Tks very much in advance.

rafnek said:
Hy guys,
I'm new to the forum so I take advantage to greeting all. My english is poor so sorry for errors
I have bought a Tytn II on 26 January 2008, 3 days ago I found some very small horizontal lines in the screen using the PDA walking, expecially on the top or the bottom. At home I found that this horizontal lines are not due to moviments of the phone but are visible every time I move the head looking the phone, expecially looking the top and the bottom bar.
For example moving the phone with the hand are visible, looking the phone on the table and moving the head up and down are visible, but holding the eye on the screen, with the phone on the table, and without moving the pda or the head this lines are not visible......
So I don't think that the problem is due to vibrations or electric issue.
Can someone tell me if it's normal or what is the problem? Does anyone have the same issue?
Tks very much in advance.
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Post some screendumps.... so we can see what you mean...
Is it NOT a batt. level indicator ?????

SatScan said:
Post some screendumps.... so we can see what you mean...
Is it NOT a batt. level indicator ?????
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Hy and tks for the answer.
No It's not a battery level indicator. I have a very small screen flickering problem moving the phone because some very small white horizontal lines appear on the screen.
It's strange that this problem appear when I look the phone without fix the eyes on it. If I hold the phone on the table and I look it moving my eyes up and down the problem appear. Looking the phone without moving my eyes does not reveal any problem.....

Hi
It doesn't sound like a fault more normal behavior.
It's all to do with how the phone refreshes the pixels on the screen. When you move your head your brain picks up the screen refreshing the image, this is because the image is no longer static and so your brain is "sampling more often" trying to make sense of what is happening and so catches a glimpse of the screens workings.
Remember what we see on a computer monitors is very much an illusion, they are seldom static images being displayed.
Regards
Phil

PhilipL said:
Hi
It doesn't sound like a fault more normal behavior.
It's all to do with how the phone refreshes the pixels on the screen. When you move your head your brain picks up the screen refreshing the image, this is because the image is no longer static and so your brain is "sampling more often" trying to make sense of what is happening and so catches a glimpse of the screens workings.
Remember what we see on a computer monitors is very much an illusion, they are seldom static images being displayed.
Regards
Phil
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Hy Phil,
tks for the answer. It's exactly what I think, but I have seen another kaiser, and I found that the "problem" is present too but in a very small way compared to what I see on my phone.
May be a different refresh rate? A different configuration of the screen?
Tks again

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Line on Screen sometimes

I have a problem with my Tilts screen, on some programs I can see a line running across the screen right where the bottom bar for the softkeys is located. When I am using the camera it appears to be green, and when i open up the tab for the options it is white, its not that visible to most people but I can clearly see it, and it and it is extremely annoying I will take some pictures of it later, just wanted to know if anyone has the same problem
looks a hardware fault to me...is it happening on landscape and portrait mode?
I have problem with horizontal line on the screen only in camera (3Mpix) mode. This line apper on the taken foto. I thin it must be camera ... I hope this will be fixed soon...
I send mine back for repair, because of the horizontal and vertical lines in camera mode.
sectorlord said:
looks a hardware fault to me...is it happening on landscape and portrait mode?
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it happens on both, the problem kinda reminds me of those old crt monitors where if you had the same thing on the screen too long it would burn in. the line is on the left side of the screen and looks exactly like the shiny part of the left softkey is.
Bouloama said:
I send mine back for repair, because of the horizontal and vertical lines in camera mode.
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Bouloama:
Was it repaird or did you get a new one ? I now that it's diffrent in every country but how long were you left without phone ?
I'm still in the waiting, the TNT guy just picked it up. They promised me it will take 10 days max. This includes the time for sending it back to me.
So hopefully i'll get it back before 15 dec. I think they will replace my cameralens, since there is a white dead pixel on it. But who knows...
Im having the same problem.
I just received my MDA Vario III yesterday.
I installed the hardSPL and flashed with dutty's latest rom.
I also took a contacts pic of my dad, hehe.
But today, I started the camera and noticed a red line running across the cam.
So I took the picture, and checked the pic. It seemed the red line was taken with the picture. This does mean there's some hardware problem. Also, I found another topic on the internet with more people complaining about it:
Click!
I just called T-Mobile and they wouldnt help me cause the contract's on my dad's name. (A few years back when I wasn't 18 yet)
Anybody else who has experienced this problem?
i just took a pic of my monitor in low light conditions - i have a totally black screen with only the taskbar visible (light gray) i found that taking a picture in landscape mode, the night mode or some **** is causing all pixels along that line to darken (??) see this link for an example (3mp @ fine)
note: this happens in landscape mode probably because the orientation of the line of pixels is in line with the pixels of the camera (cant seem to reproduce it when the device is upright [ie the taskbar spans the 240, not the 320]) - this could either be the utterly _crap_ nightmode filter software or could be due to the ccd itself - i dont really know enough about camera technology to determine which is the cause (you think maybe the crap nightmode filter determines the gamma of horizontal lines based only on the pixels in that line? that would explain this effect and if so thats just plain ****)
My Kaiser has new camera. It took only one day to repair it. I've heard that camera in Kaiser is made by Samsung ... (it was mentioned in service report)
Now it's all ok. I wonder how long ...

Screen issue-"Burnt in" image on gray backround

Hello people,
I rarely see a burnt in (like old crt screens) image on the bottom of the screen.
For example when I change the volume, the softkey labels of the today screen are still visible, along with a white line. Most times it is normal so I don't worry very much but I'm wondering if someone else has the same issue.
I've tried many versions of hardspl (because they seem to be connected with some screen issues) but the problem still exists.
Hi i have the exact same issue, i put a post up a month ago not had any response on it. I have a MDA compact IV, not updated any ROM or HARDSPL yet. I was tempted to update to see if the problem could be rectified.
Have you update to a cooked rom? I might send mine back to have it fixed if its a screen issue.
Mine only holds the "burnt in image" along the right of the screen from top right corner to bottom right corner around 3cm in.
Also i have noticed the "Burnt in image" seems to get stronger when the device heats up. If i use GPS or 3G, this seems to affect the screen.
My background is black which makes it really noticable, i think if i stick with the orginal t-mobile white background it's probably not that noticable.
mmm
Perhaps the units you bought where like demo units. Those units that are displayed all day long turned for people to look at them. I have read in another forum that perhaps that distortion is caused by extreme temperatures, cold or heat.
well i'm still trying to figure out what is causing it, as I notice it only once in maybe a week. Maybe temperature is the most probable cause. For me I notice the defect only in gray background (e.g. when changing volume or launching opera).
My unit was from the first batch from expansys (origin htc asia)
It's possible your handsets have screens which are somehow susceptible to heat damage from inside the phone. This would be no fault of your own, but a manufacturing defect.
I'd suggest returning the phone to the retailer, HTC or the operator depending on your situation.
However, if you're using the phone in extreme conditions, ie low temperatures, you may very well find the LCD slow to refresh or have some level of image retention.
Let us know the outcome
i also have a ripple effect when pressing, but its more apparent with black. its also a first gen model, so i think ima make a phone call to htc. maybe a can get a new device.
for the burn in, try this:
1. Go to power settings, deselect automatic backlight management.
2. Pull up backlight level to maximum.
3. Reselect automatic.
You should be ok!
If not, faulty device!
tnyynt said:
for the burn in, try this:
1. Go to power settings, deselect automatic backlight management.
2. Pull up backlight level to maximum.
3. Reselect automatic.
You should be ok!
If not, faulty device!
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Ok I will try this although I can't see how the backlight can affect the screen. In order to repair it with warranty I would have to send it to expansys uk (because it is not a European device) and I bet it would take long
Have you tried removing the battery for a while - some lcd screens can get the memory effect, and cutting power for long enough normally cures it.
My phone actually holds the previous menu under the current menu.
Example i'm on the home screen, goto messages and send a text using the qwerty keyboard. Back to the home screen, i can see a very faint image of the qwerty keyboard under the Programs hotkey.
When the PIN lock comes on the bottom right is "MENU", i can see a faint "programs" letters icon underneath it.
I will try and leave the battery out for a few hours, if not a call to t-mobile!
ok, i have the same "problem". even after a soft-reset the words CommManager
and Programs are still slightly visible in the boot screen.
but: as mentioned above, turning the device off for a couple of minutes cures
this, and the screen is dark as hell again!
really seems to be some kind of memory effect!
regards,
markus
Left the battery out for a few hours, made no difference. I guess is not a software problem.
will be giving t-mobile a call tomorrow!
:-(
I guess every htc device must have a flaw...
when it does it again I will try to take a photo of it and post it here
Hi same problem here.... See my post below..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417629
I thought it was due to Spb Shell but no, now i'm happy i'm not alone..
But what solution for this??
I'm not worried about the burn in looks.. My worry is whether this behavior of the screen will progressively damge the screen???
I have been using the Diamond at full backlight.. Last few days i've put it down to minimum, but the problem persists!!!
ok, I think it happens when it overheats.
So that is why it is caused when charging.
wtf?
No its not due to overheating, coz LCD screen are supposed to tolerate temperatures upto 80degree C... Dont know if its related to electro magnetic radiation, may be looks like it's more after i use the network...
Hi another mate has this problem Andrew...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2684406&posted=1#post2684406
Hi,
i sent my phone back to T-Mobile hoping they will fix this issue with the screen. Just received the phone and it looks like they have done nothing On the job sheet all it says is "Software updated"? The problem is still there!
I dont think there is a fix as such, it looks like this is the cause
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/image-sticking.html
I'll try if i can get a completely white background and leave the screen on for a while at the brighest setting, if this will erase the screen issue?
the problem appears more often now on my device....
It does not have to do with heat afterall.
Why would the image "stick" when the phone is off? I mean that many times I see the symptoms right after I switch the phone on.
Do we have any screen experts in the forum?
viperone88 said:
Hi,
i sent my phone back to T-Mobile hoping they will fix this issue with the screen. Just received the phone and it looks like they have done nothing On the job sheet all it says is "Software updated"? The problem is still there!
I dont think there is a fix as such, it looks like this is the cause
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/image-sticking.html
I'll try if i can get a completely white background and leave the screen on for a while at the brighest setting, if this will erase the screen issue?
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After calling up T-Mobile and made a complaint saying nothing had been done by the repair centre, they gave up and agreed to give me a handset replacement. Received the handset today, looks like a refurbed one? Anyway my problem is now fixed. Left the phone on a while and it got pretty hot, no ghosting on the screen
The restore was a pain, Wifi didn;t work, the HSDPA didn;t work. But after a few hours messing around it's all up and running so far.

Alignment problems

My screen constantly goes out of alignment.
I have to realign it 10-12 times a day and sometime it goes out by alot !
I have tried 6 different ROMS and they all have the same problems
Can anyone help ?
Thanks
yeh.. mine's like that too... except it only seems to happen when it gets a bit warm.... haven't been able to find a solution for it so far.
Did a few searches and the general consensus seems to be that it's a hardware fault (screen and digitiser) and other people have sent it off for warranty repairs.
I'm going to have problems with the warranty as I have changed the Rom many many times.
Don't know how to put the original Telstra ROM back, assuming I can even get it !
Hey guys
I am on my 2nd diamond..
the first one had huge alignment problems, so i got it replaced..
after a month, the new one started doing the same thing..
i found a thread somewhere here on XDA (for the life of me cant remember where it is now)
but it had a little solution that mixed with mine, worked!
the problem is that the screen is not sitting properly in the casing anymore, possible due to a bump in your pocket, or a fall.. this causes a certain section of the screen to be higher or lower than the rest..
place the phone flat on a desk, and open up the notes app and try to write/draw something.. see which side of the screen the line is heading towards..
now place place your thumb and a finger on diagonal sides of the screen (eg, bottom left and top right) and press down... check with the stylus if its any better... if not, try opposite sides and check again..
mine always shot up to the top right, so when i held down the top left side of the phone, it worked..
so this meant that the top right side was sitting slightly higher than the rest of the screen.
the solution is:
find a business card with sharp corners and place the edge underneath the screen (just the corner, dont shove the whole thing up there!) hehe
then slide the card up and down a few times, and then do another side of the screen... do all 4 sides but pay special attention to area where the styles was migrating towards in the notes app..
after doing this, my phone hasnt given me a days problem in 2 months now..
give feedback if this solution works for you!

WSOD! Help!!

My tilt is acting very nasty lately. Over the past few weeks, I noticed that when I turned on the display, occasionally I would get something that looked like the static that you see on TV, but with colors. I would just turn off the screen, and turn it back on to clear it.
Now it's gotten worst! 98% of the time, it intermitantly gives me a blank solid white screen when I turn it on. Occasionally I can just turn to screen off, and on to reset it.
I'm running OEM WM6.1, and I've tried to reinstall the OS, but it didn't help. My phone has taken a beating, and the top corner has had a small crack in it over the past 2 months, but it didn't effect the touch screen, or picture. I also took off the cover to make sure the cables were all snug, and it didn't help.
Any suggestions?
Something got corrupted. If you search WIKI, it's call the 3 color screen stuck .. and you're better off posting at thread below. I hope someone can give you help (if you follow those steps and still no good)
As rule of thumb, do a lot of reading first
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423486
On a second thought, it might be the LCD itself broken ..
Oh, believe me.. I'm not one to turn to the forums without doing research myself! All the research I was coming up with seemed to point to a slightly different WSOD though. I think you are right about the screen being broken. I've reinstalled the software, and it acts up even when booting up!
Unfortunately, I'm not impressed with ANYTHING on the market to date! If I'm unable to fix this, I'll just go back to a RAZR until the next gen WM7 phones come out. (With a tilt screen of course!!)
Oh, and even though the screen goes white, it's not stuck, as it fully boots up; I can hear sounds, and even activate the touch screen.
Also, I forgot to mention.. the first problem I started experiencing was that my tilt would go back from landscape mode! It was like the video board was crapping out. I could even see a slight flicker in the display from the refresh rate.
hi i think you may need a new Need a new flex cable ribbon as i had the same problem once
Thanks Tayzaa, I think you could be on to something. I'll open it up and take another look!
Hi!
is this problem solved?
WSOD is bug of Hermes. I would know if kaiser have the same WSOD-bug with D-pad?

Question regarding the backlight of my Xperia X1i

Hello,
if I use my X1 in a dark ambience with a dark background on the telephone, I can see that some areas of the display are brighter than others (particularly the top right and left side of the display).
Its only visible in dark areas with a dark picture on the telephone (e.g. the Sony Ericsson start up screen). If I have a colured picture or white picture and if the ambience is bright I cant see the brighter areas anymore.
Is this phenomenon ok or is my X1 damaged?
I think its normal (whether that's OK for you or me is a different question)
There were 2 or 3 threads on this a couple of months back -try searching for "light bleeding" or "screen fade" or "light leakage" and you should find them
Thank you for the post!
Seems that everyone has this problem so it wouldnt be helpful to return it, right?
How do you mean i don't get it.
i don't have any problems with the backlight
Than you are a lucky man
sapphire_pro said:
Than you are a lucky man
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Thnx, I hope i don't get any problems with my backlight or else i would be very upset
My X1 doesn't seem to have this issue
But maybe I should try with something darker than this...
You need to photograph your display while having a dark picture on it. The failure is a physical one, that is why you cant save it with a screenshot.
Another question:
Varies the intensity of the bleeding problem from phone to phone or has the problem everytime the same intensity on every phone in case that the problem occurs?
Regards
sapphire_pro
sapphire_pro said:
Hello,
if I use my X1 in a dark ambience with a dark background on the telephone, I can see that some areas of the display are brighter than others (particularly the top right and left side of the display).
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The top left/right corners are a bit "yellow" for me, I guess that's just normal.
It really isn't noticable most of the time though, so I don't care about it .
Yes you are absolutely right, they are a bit yellow!
And only visible with a black backround, right?
Probably heat related.
Check it with the X1 stone cold, check it when it's been in use for a while.
Sorry but what is the X1 stone cold?
sapphire_pro said:
Sorry but what is the X1 stone cold?
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Oops sorry, regional thing I guess.
I mean when it's cold as in hasn't been turned on for a while, hasn't been on charger for a while (and is as cold as a stone )
Hmh as far as I can see is the problem everytime the same. It doesnt matter if the telephone is hot or not.
Old thread, but actual situation...
I have the same problem: on the top right corner (and just a bit on the top left corner) when the display is on and black (start up, panel manager etc.), i see a yellow light...
Should i return it?

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